Lessons learned while flying

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carol57
carol57 Member Posts: 3,567
edited June 2014 in Lymphedema


I just returned from a trip to Finland, and each way I took three flights, including one leg that was longer than I'd flown since my LE diagnosis about two years ago. For work, I fly about 26 round trips each year, usually requiring four flights total, and generally not longer than about 4 hours on any segment. But getting as far as Finland meant 7 hours outbound and 8.5 hours home on the long flights.


My usual approach is to stay well hydrated before, during and after the flights, which of course obligates me to get up and walk to the plane's bathroom a few times. Avoid salty snacks, put the arm up and pump my fist twenty times every hour or so, and do as much walking as I can squeeze in when in the airport before and between flights. Also, I wear a compression cami instead of a bra, and it has nice wide straps and good coverage, because I have some truncal LE and wearing the cami helps keep things flowing on the torso. I was hopeful that my standard LE operating procedure would work on a longer flight, with one change of routine. On my outbound trip, I switched from my compression sleeve and gauntlet to my night garment for the middle, overnight flight. I have a Solaris Tribute. In the morning, I returned to my regular sleeve for the last leg of my journey. No problems!! Not even an ache, which is my usual symptom of LE not under control.


On my return flight, I was not planning to try to snuggle in for some quasi sleep, so I kept the compression sleeve and gauntlet on for the entire duration. Did my usual water-and-walking routine in the airports, but I was seated by the window for the long flight and the passengers next to me were on an exhausting 24-hour travel agenda and slept through most of the flight. I did not have the heart to wake them up so I could exit the row and head to the bathroom. So, I drank less water than I normally would have and only got up twice during the 8.5 hours.


And....when the flight was descending during the long, slow initial approach for landing, yikes!!! Pain in the arm!!! My normal dull ache became a very deep and sharp ache and this kept up until we landed, when it let up a little. There I was, arm up in the air, madly fist pumping; doing my deep abdominal breathing; stimulating neck nodes; stimulating axillary nodes--nothing helped. Once in the airport for my connection to the final flight home I felt better and then did some walking and downed a huge bottle of water, but even now, about 18 hours after returning home and a night sleeping in my Tribute, my arm is still bugging me more than normal.


So, lesson learned: Make sure to get an aisle seat so there's no restriction on getting up to walk and use the bathroom, so no temptation to restrict fluids. Next time I'm on such a long flight, I think I'll use the Tribute instead of my sleeve, so I can find out if perhaps that was also one of the differences between my two long-flight experiences and their quite different LE outcomes.


I'd love for others to describe their own flight experiences, especially strategies they've tried that either worked or did not work to minimize their LE issues. There's no credible research 'out there' on the effects of flying with or when at risk of LE, so perhaps we can capture our collective experiences here in ways that can be of practical help for others who need to plan for air travel.


So, what have you tried while flying? What worked? What didn't?

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  • GemStateGirl
    GemStateGirl Member Posts: 168
    edited October 2013


    Carol, thanks so much for starting this thread. I have Stage 1 lymphedema that is well controlled but I've only flown short flights since I got it two years ago (2 to 3 hour flights at the most). Next year I will be flying to Paris non-stop from the west coast (Salt Lake or Seattle) and am concerned how my arm and chest will react. It will probably be an overnight flight and I was wondering whether I needed to wear my night sleeve or not so I'll be interested to hear if anyone else used theirs with good results on these flights.

  • GemStateGirl
    GemStateGirl Member Posts: 168
    edited October 2013


    Carol, thanks so much for starting this thread. I have Stage 1 lymphedema that is well controlled but I've only flown short flights since I got it two years ago (2 to 3 hour flights at the most). Next year I will be flying to Paris non-stop from the west coast (Salt Lake or Seattle) and am concerned how my arm and chest will react. It will probably be an overnight flight and I was wondering whether I needed to wear my night sleeve or not so I'll be interested to hear if anyone else used theirs with good results on these flights.


    I've favorited this thread so I can refer back to all your good advice.

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited October 2013


    I also have stage 1 LE right arm (12 nodes removed) and a problematic left arm (SNB only). I have had measureable increase in my left arm circumference, but I have no other symptoms of discomfort like my right arm. I only have bi-lat sleeves and gauntlets, no night sleeve or body garments. I do wear loose fitting comfortable clothes and a sports bra when flying so nothing feels binding, but I am considering an Underarmour tank. I took a trip from the east coast to Europe in July which involved a short flight from Tampa to Atlanta, then a long overnight flight to Munich. I did have a window seat but the aircraft configuration only had two seats on the sides and I chatted with the person next to me, neither of really slept, so I could get up as frequently as I needed to. I minimized my carry-on bags, wore my sleeves/gauntlets, tried to hydrate, fist pumped. Seems to have worked decently and I actually noticed being more comfortable once at the destination because of reduced humidity. We were there for two weeks and traveled by train to multiple destinations which then involved dragging bags around, on and off trains. There were four of us, and too many bags (we had attended a wedding so there were suits, dresses, shoes, etc.) and the trains are like clockwork so you have to get on/off FAST, so I had to handle my own bag! This made my arm hurt a bit but did not cause any discernible swelling. The trip home was the same long flight from Munich to Atlanta, but this time was during daylight hours, my son was with me for this leg so he took the window seat and I was on the aisle. I was a bit more concerned about this flight because I had discomfort in my arm already from handling the bags, but no additional swelling - had no more issues. For the last six months of 2012 I did fly from Tampa to Washington, D.C. every three weeks, and had no problems. I now make that flight every 6 months (vaccine trial) for the booster.

  • carol57
    carol57 Member Posts: 3,567
    edited October 2013


    SpecialK, the baggage can be a real killer! A good 'lessons learned' is to do whatever's possible to lighten the luggage load when traveling with LE.


    For work I am stuck carrying laptop and sometimes a small printer, plus my instructor notes (I teach seminars) that can be quite thick and heavy. All that adds up, plus of course I need some clothing, including what's required for working out. With your added wedding celebration clothing I imagine that your suitcases expanded exponentially!


    I'm on a campaign to reduce what I carry, and for most trips of a week or so, I can do it with a rolling laptop bag plus a tiny second carry-on. My trip this past week required only a 16" rolling suitcase plus a tote that is smaller than a lot of purses. Good thing I wasn't trying to make any fashion statements, because this was truly minimalist packing!


    There are some amazingly lightweight luggage choices available these days. My roller is by IT Luggage and weighs about 3 lbs empty. Bric's and Lipault are more expensive but also quite lightweight. If you weigh your empty suitcase, you might be surprised at how heavy it is. Eight or nine pounds is not unusual, depending on size.

  • carol57
    carol57 Member Posts: 3,567
    edited November 2013


    Argghhh!! Today I took two flights, a one-hour followed by a four-hour, with no issues. Then, on arrival at my hotel, I decided to walk the 1.3 miles to the building where I am to work tomorrow. I wanted to locate the building and stretch my legs, and that distance is a short one for my usual walking routines. So off I went. I was still in my sleeve and gauntlet and walked at a moderate pace with no serious cardio in mind. The temperature was a very civilized 65 degrees or so, with no noticeable humidity. And my hand swelled!!! Several hours later, it's still a bit swollen, and now I'm wondering if I need to get a glove for when I fly, or if the issue is that flying with the gauntlet is fine, but I need to give up on the post-flight walking.


    I just hate the trial-and-error aspect of LE. I feel like I'm living in a pinball machine, bouncing randomly from one point to the next with no chance at a straight-line path of understanding and dealing with LE.


    Has anyone else survived flights but then had some swelling in the hours afterward?

  • SpecialK
    SpecialK Member Posts: 16,486
    edited November 2013


    carol57 - argghhh! I feel your pain - it is so frustrating, and definitely trial and error. I remember quite a while ago someone had traveled across the country and had a sudden swelling event and posted seeking advice - everyone said to get into the nearest pool, and I think kira worked out a possible visit to a PT - amazing resources we have here! My feet always swell - did before BC, I think that is how it is for me - and maybe why I have issues now. I also don't think I have a large number of nodes - my ALND yielded a small number and I was told he took them all, so... Funny story on the trying to pack light. I traveled to Washington, D.C. regularly for the vaccine trial. So last time I went for the booster right before the trip to Austria, I decided I would take exactly the number of outfits I needed for the three days I would be there - no more. I have to wear skirts to the hospital so they can access my upper leg - first time I wore jeans and ended up in a conference room with windows in my underwear - ridiculous. Anyway, every time I overpack I have no real travel issues. The one time I bring just enough I have a mechanical and the flight is cancelled at 1 am - and I can't get out until the next afternoon - no clean clothes! Murphy's law!!! I have it down to just a small rolling carry-on though! I wear black, white and khaki, mix and match and only black shoes!

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