I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange
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Oh Pip - sorry you ended up with shingles. I, too had the vaccination a year ago but my PCP did say at the time that I still could get shingles though not as severe a case. Can you tell me what the symptoms were (just in case!) - glad you're feeling better in time to enjoy your trip to Florida.
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Thanks for the link Mods. I didn't realize that we have a higher risk of getting shingles.
In hindsight, I have been experiencing increasing pain for several weeks. It started with terrible aches in my legs. Much like the pain when on taxatere but not as intense. The pain seemed to move up my back and settled in my shoulders and neck for a couple of weeks. I figured it was the arimidex or maybe my arthritis acting up or even the dreaded breakup with NED. Pain meds were helping off and on. When the blisters broke out I had waves of nausea until they started to heal. There were only a few of them so it didn't occur to me that it was shingles until I was feverish. Duh!
Anyways, I am feeling normal now. That is always when I realize how bad I was feeling before. I strongly suggest that you all look into the vaccine. I definitely think it mitigated the symptoms. -
C4C - what is solution 2a? I have a Mac too. Beautiful cat - 100% Siamese? My first cat was a Siamese. Very loyal cat.
Alexandria - your words continue to give me comfort. xxo Ms Boo is such a good traveler. The Internist Vet stressed that all other options for her dx are out - she has cancer. So much for my grasping for straws and hoping for a miracle. Her first words - "she has lost muscle mass." She did lose 2 oz, though eats well (high calorie kibble) with steroids. Apparently cancer uses up calories. Got an Rx for a compounded liquid famcyclovir. Yeah - no more pills and absolutely do not need to take her to the local Vet for SubQ - i.e. no more daily travel in the car. This will make her last weeks much better for both of us. The Vet gave her a month.
Good news - she drank water tonite and was just grooming herself. Normalcy for awhile.
pip - Thanks to your story, I will probably seek out the Shingles vaccine. Sorry you still had to go through that with the vaccine. Were you run down or ill when the symptoms came about? -
Pip....so, so glad you are feeling a lot better. Dh has those darn shingles years ago and he was one miserable fellow. Now nothing should stop you from enjoying your time away.
Carrots......double yay. So glad you can do pictures again. I am such a graphics fan I was hating it the short while I was not able to do it. I made up for it though.
Jackie -
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KAM... I didn't think I was so run down. However, we had a lot of company stay over for two whole weeks. I was also spending a lot of time with adorable but 'germy' little ones. So maybe my body was feeling stressed. Probably ate out a lot more (including desserts etc) with company. And drank a bit more wine. And slept less. So yeah. It is all starting to add up. -
Kam, the Mods sent me to this Glitches thread (last page). First solution (dragging the image) didn't work, but the 2a solution did:
http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/93/topic/787232
Toffee is a champagne burmese but he has a Siamese voice. The only difference is -- we don't hear it that much! -
C4C - Toffee looks so similar to my cat, Xiao Mao, who is a Tonkinese and my little love.
Kam - I am so sorry about Ms. Boo. When my Mozart was diagnosed with cancer, it was so hard. He ate, greeted me, and seemed to have some quality of life until the last day, when he clearly going and the vet came and made it painless. Still hurts to write about it three years later. Spend your time, letting Ms. Boo know that you love her, and knowing that you've given her a wonderful life. The depth of our love for our fur-babies is not measured by the length of their lives, nor is the pain at losing them. -
Dahlia had lung cancer but lasted two years after diagnosis. She saw me through PD, BC and Thyroid cancer treatments. She was a real trooper. My vet told me I would know when it was time to take her in and she was right. It's still hard to think about as she was the love of my life, but when I look at Lilah, I like to think part of my Dahlia is there looking back. -
Same artist!

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Ok, you guys got me crying (which is okay). I lost the only cat I had growing up, at 21. I was already off to college, but would come by on occasion. I took her into the Vet as she was ailing, and did (with lifelong regret) what most 21 year olds would do (according to the Vet who deals with these issues) and left her there for the Vet to "handle it," ofcourse, after she gave me that recommendation. She was 16, no regrets except for leaving, but I was fearful of that part and still am. I want to be in the present for Ms Boo, but it's hard not to play that future tape in my head. There is only one Vet around her that will come to someone's house and I don't particularly care for her. That worries me. Losing my own mom at 15, I just don't handle ends well. I've avoided getting animals for over 30 years for this very reason. Probably also why I'm alone. These 2 girls are the closest thing I have to family. I just wanted to say this because I might seem more over the top about my animals (not all, I realize) than most. Neither are "just cats" to me. But as the Vet says, they are not mine. They are their own entity. I'm still thinking of her words, but the best I can come up with is that she has lived her fullest life and I need to respect that independent of my own desires and needs. And yes, she had a great life and the best human friend she could have possibly found, or I'd like to think
, though I still think of myself as her mother, though in truth, she was the real mother in this relationship. 
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'Pink Mink', Protea flower -
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Kam, I have difficulty being there when our animals are put down too. However, the vets and their assistants are normally very carrying and sympathetic people and do all they can to make the atmosphere as peaceful and painless as possible. So don't feel badly that you were not there at the very end. -
Alexandria and Blue....so eloquently put. Having been an animal person for the biggest part of my life so far I have "lost" a huge amt. and every one of them has taken a little piece of me with them. Dh and I seem to suffer their loss just as much no matter how long or short of a time they were with us. I even still recall like almost yesterday the little kitten my next door neighbor brought home. I coached her on kitten care and she named the gorgeous kitten Periwinkle because of her beautiful eyes.
Unfortunately, the kitten did not survive and Jeannie asked me if I would bury the kitten as she was going to keep her children in. I was crying before we left our drive-way. We brought Periwinkle home and put her where so many of ours are.......and said the little prayer we always use giving thanks that we were allowed to experience one of the greatest gifts we have while on this Earth..........the unconditional pure love and joy and comfort found in furry companions. So Periwinkle and the many others are only just a breath and thought away and though I am always, always sad, there is another part of me that is able to feel the contentment and the blessing of having had the honor of their presence.
The only one in your life who gives no harsh judgment ever and for whom no sacrifice is too large. The blessings of the furry friends have no real comparison.
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Pip - after caring that guilt around for 38 years, I was finally relieved when the Vet (who in her bio says she is especially interested in the end of life issues with pets and owners) told me most 21 year olds choose not to be with their animal. I will be with Ms Boo. I can't imagine it any other way, but I cannot lie, I am very fearful. Thankfully, I won't be doing it without a friend alongside. -
Kam -- your resolve will get you through, and though painful as it gets, you will have stood by the one that meant so much in your life. I cry unashamedly at the Vets ( and I'm sure they have come to totally expect and understand this ) as does Dh. Our tribute to a faithful, friend. We give as much respect to the end as we displayed in the beginning.
Jackie -
Hi Gals .. wanted to write a short note before I get back outside to the dreaded leaves.
Kam .. Thinking of you as you go through this difficult time with Ms. Boo. It is so hard to let our beloved pets go. When I had to let my Bobo go a couple of years ago, my sister went with me. I was sobbing through the entire process. I had never let a pet go before him. And he was my favorite ... my godsend through all the bad shit that life had thrown at me.
Then last year when it came time to let my Winston go (beagle/basset mix) I took him to the vet by myself. My biggest regret is that I might have waited too long to take him. He was in very bad health. I cried and said good bye to him as the vet injected the needle. It hurt so bad to lose him, but at least this time I knew what to expect.
Sending you huge big hugs as you go through this hard time.
hugs,
Bren
PS ... I had them both cremated and I have their ashes sitting on the counter with their picture next to them. -
Kam, I haven't been able to catch up on everything. Is the time near for Ms Boo? So sorry if this is the case. She seems like such a sweetie and clearly has your heart.
I had to put down a beloved dog 11 years ago and still think of her every day. I could not go into the room when it was done. I am so conflicted about that choice and what to do when it's Chloe's time. To see them literally kill a pet I love is just so painful, but I don't want them to be alone. DH still thinks she will pass quietly in her sleep and we will find her. I hope it happens that way.
Don't know how much longer Chloe has. I'm really worried about how skinny she's becoming, despite a pretty good appetite. Her behavior is totally under control, thanks to a lot of pharmaceutical help. -
Thanks Blue, really like that artist. Will look up more of his work.
SO SO SO SORRY for all those who have to say goodbye to beloved furry people, can't imagine the pain, my allergies have always kept me from having a furry friend, did have a parakeet for 12 years, which was quite a long time for a feathered friend, so guess he liked flying around my house - always kept the cage open, so he only slept in there.
Think the shingles vaccine was coming out at about the time I finished chemotherapy 6 1/2 years ago, cuz remember my docs at Dana Farber making sure I got the vaccine 6 months after finishing chemotherapy. But, Pip, if I had the symptoms you had, I would've written them off as something else, even with a few blisters. Darn, guess we still have to be on the watch for it. Sorry you had to go thru it, but appreciate your clear description, so maybe the rest of us vaccinated ones can catch it before the blisters.
Read the letters ADO, on another thread, "all doctored out." Boy, did that ever ring true. Also learned the "dog ears" on the sides of my torso are really "ANGEL WINGS" -love it.
Hoping E is more comfortable, and resting a bit in a recliner? Just know Sampson must feel awful. -
Sunny, ADO was a major factor in my decision to go flat.
Re end of life for pets. It is the extreme emotions that I feel that makes me okay with saying goodbye on the other side of the door. Pets are very tuned into their owners and our emotions. That is one of the reasons we bond with them. So, I believe that it would be much more distressing for them to have me there. -
And back to some of the other non mysteries of life on this Earth.
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One more way to view the above and even something to do about it those most here would never need that suggestion:
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Both Dahlia and Virgil were in my arms when the vet gave them the shot. It was hard but I like to think part of their spirit came into my soul. -
Kam- I think there is no right or wrong here. Ultimately, remember, what you do for her now, what you've done for her all her life, is more important than if you're there when she eases away. Try to live in the moment now.
In terms of how you feel about Ms. Boo - I wrote a song after Mozart died. I don' know if I can find it, but I was basically answering someone who thought I was grieving excessively.
He was just a cat.
He was more than that.
So much more than that.
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We had to send our beloved fur children to the Rainbow Bridge a few years ago. Spot and Puff were littermates - my big boy Spotty had to go first. He had intestinal cancer - we could have operated, but it would have come back. We chose to make him happy until it was time, and then we had the vet come over. He did it on our bed, on Spotty's favorite shirt, and we petted him and told him we loved him until he was gone. He was 12-1/2.
Puffy was 16 when she joined her brother at the Rainbow Bridge. She had renal failure. We kept her alive for a year with sub-cu fluids, pumpkin mixed with her food (for fiber - she LOVED it!), and by bringing home our current cat, Peaches, and her four kittens who we rescued from a woodshed out in the country. Puffy was too afraid of Peaches and the kids, so we had to keep them in the basement and Puffy upstairs. A little hate apparently goes a long way - she perked up for a year guarding us from what she called "the monsters in the basement." She would sit at the basement door, hitting at the paws the kittens put under. They thought it was a game, but she was guarding us!
We took her to the vet when it was time ... I held her and DH stroked her and looked into her eyes so that her beloved dad was the last thing she ever saw. I thought I would die from the pain - I had just been dx the first time and life sucked. We had them both cremated and we will have them mixed with us when we go. Peaches and Forrest (the one kitten we kept), too, and any other children we have in the future. We
They are our children and it is agonizing to say goodbye - but we must do the right thing for them. When we do, we are repaying their years of unconditional love by making sure we love them enough to see that they don't suffer. We give them good lives and all our love - and when they must leave us, we must bundle up all that love and use it to help them go. But it hurts indescribably to do it. They take part of our hearts with them.
Hugs to you, Kam and Ms, Boo and Yorkie and Chloe and all the others who have fur children they have loved and lost. We all know that anguish.
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