October 2013 Chemotherapy

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  • TeamKim
    TeamKim Member Posts: 568
    edited October 2013


    So sorry to hear about everyone's nausea challenges from second tx! Makes me nervous for my 2nd tx this Thursday. Glad some of you have called the MO on call and gotten some relief. I hope you are able to find some restful sleep and food that soothes your tummy.


    For those looking for something to eat, I found I had cravings and aversions (like pregnancy) the first time around. I ate an entire small seedless watermelon days 3 & 4, lol. Flat ginger ale blended with crushed ice tasted good for a couple of days. Bigelow makes a Lemon & Ginger with probiotics herb tea that I used to make iced tea and poured over crushed ice, and that went down well. I started out liking oatmeal, but after a couple days couldn't stand the thought. Chicken pot pie was the first hot meal I ate (day 3). Instant mashed potatoes and baked potatoes have been really yummy throughout. Also popcorn with sea salt (helps with constipation too). For me, salty and tart was better than sweet throughout the first week. For fluids, if sweet tastes good to you, try Popsicles or Pedialyte pops as well. My onc nurse said just go with the cravings (within reason) rather than trying to force yourself to eat something you think you "should" eat.... Point is, just keep eating, even if it is just dry rice chex (lived on those the first trimester of my difficult pregnancy).

  • relocatedtarheel
    relocatedtarheel Member Posts: 159
    edited October 2013


    I keep crying and thinking I can't do this again...just feel so bad. Sorr of out of it constantly, hungry but nauseaus whwn I rhink of eating anything specific...horriblr headache but borderline fever so can't take lots of tylenol. So down, so miserable...so sorry

  • Jianchi
    Jianchi Member Posts: 352
    edited October 2013


    relocatedtarheel, so sorry for your SEs. I haven't begin chemo yet, and just thinking about my SNB is driving me crazy and downward! I hope there is some medicine you can get to help you with the nausea.


    Hugs!

  • DoxieMomof3
    DoxieMomof3 Member Posts: 14
    edited October 2013


    Hello, I am new to this board, I having been reading all that I can for the last few weeks and finally feel up to joining in :)


    I was wondering, has anyone gotten a red ichy rash at the site of the IV? I have this weird rash on the back of my hand right were I have my first chemo IV, and it showed up about 3/4 days after. My MO says that it is totally unrelated to chemo, but I just don't believe him. I have another appt tomorrow to check my white blood count, and I am going to have him look at it again, but I was just wondering if anyone else has had this problem? I really don't want to get a port since I am only having 4 treatments, but this rash driving me crazy!

  • TeamKim
    TeamKim Member Posts: 568
    edited October 2013


    collie mom -- I had a couple of rashes after my first treatment, none at the site of the IV, but one on the back of my neck, and one on the back of my other hand (non-IV side), plus the lovely diaper rash. All appeared day 4 & 5. For the hand and back of neck, used Cortisone 10 cream, and that cleared it up after a couple of days.

  • DoxieMomof3
    DoxieMomof3 Member Posts: 14
    edited October 2013


    thanks TeamKim, I also got a nasty rash on the back of my neck and the diaper rash. So I guess it must just be we have sensitive skin. I am using the Cortisine cream and the one on my neck is gone, but the hand one is taking alot longer but is getter better.


    I think I will just not let them use the back of my hand next time.

  • SpiritBlessing
    SpiritBlessing Member Posts: 584
    edited October 2013


    Hi Ladies,


    My first time posting as well. I have been reading many posts on the different boards and this one seems to be pretty active and most current. I will be meeting my new oncologist on Tuesday at which time I am sure we will be making a plan for the treatment. I have to say I was hoping t/o gain more knowledge of the treatment and it's side effects but it is not sounding so hot. I am already pretty anxious about the whole process. I was diagnosed on 8/23/13 so still all pretty new to me. Had a second opinion and changed my first team as I was not happy with any of them. I actually did some research on not doing any treatments due to the various short term and long term side effects.


    I have made lists of things to purchase from reading all the posts so that is helpful. But I am still very nervous. I don't even know how I am going to get through the first infusion, that just makes me nervous now. I do have my faith and I am holding on strong to that and know I am not alone.


    I hope that I can see some posts that are more positive to give a little more hope to this. Please let me know how to mentally prepare for this...thanks!

  • SpiritBlessing
    SpiritBlessing Member Posts: 584
    edited October 2013


    I was told it is best for me to have a port as my treatment will be for 5 months.

  • Pam358
    Pam358 Member Posts: 294
    edited October 2013


    Welcome CollieMom and SpiritBlessing - sorry that you have to join us on this journey but hope you can find some support through the message boards. I know it's not always good news that you read but it helps to have a place to discuss both the positive and negative aspects of this journey so we can all get through it the best we can.

  • wrenn
    wrenn Member Posts: 2,707
    edited October 2013


    welcome colliemom and spiritblessing. I have not had the official word yet on whether i can have chemo so i find the posts about how it is affecting others very helpful. I so often heard "It's fine. Don't worry" from people when it wasn't fine that finding reliable realistic information has been so wonderful. Although some of the stories of difficult to handle side effects are scary I am also learning that everyone is bearing up and handling it. Seeing the strength shown by these women makes me feel like I can do it too. It is a very difficult path we are all following and i am so grateful to the women who are sharing their struggles.


    I hope you will join in. It is the most supportive community i have ever come across and it is really amazing to me that so many people are so giving when in the midst of a struggle.

  • relocatedtarheel
    relocatedtarheel Member Posts: 159
    edited October 2013


    spiritblessing-I'm sorry I've been one of those scaring you. I was un prepared for the onslaught and timing of my side effects. I also have oncologists who are willing to discuss changes in pre/post meds for next time but weren't helpful while I was in the throws of misery this weekend. So just make sure your docs are willing to respond to symptoms as thet arise. Today is a much better day for me. You'll make it!

  • LiLi1964
    LiLi1964 Member Posts: 331
    edited October 2013

    SpiritBlessing,

    Please keep in mind that although you may currently be reading a great deal about some women who are dealing very poorly with side effects, you will find this thread is more about encouragement, support and helping one another.

    This forum offers all of us to be honest about what we are feeling, both physically and emotionally.  Chemo is tough; we all know that.  Some are hit harder than others.  But please always keep in mind that you are likely very well aware of all the SE’s that CAN happen, it in no way indicates that you will experience ANY of them. 

    What can you expect? 

    • Nausea – if that happens, call your MO or MO on call and get diff meds (easy as that!).  Or your MO may send you home with 2-3 different anti-nausea meds so if one does not work, you can move right on to the next for possible relief.
    • Extreme flu like symptoms/bone pain – this is a tough one.  Claritan taken the day before the Neulasta injections and for 5 days after will oftentimes keep this SE from setting in.  Some women do not get relief for whatever reason.
    • Fatigue – advice is easy, when you are tired, SLEEP.
    • Hair Loss – everyone opts for their own way to deal with this and I’m sure if you haven’t decided yet, you’ll find many here willing to answer any questions you may have on how they arrived at their decisions,

    Those are the 4 items you really need to keep in mind and be prepared to deal with.  Again, like my MO told me right before my first infusion:  “If you have a thought in your head about how you are feeling and wondering if you should be calling me, you should pick up the phone and call me.  We are here for you patients 24/7; call us and we can help with whatever comes up”.  Good advice; advice I took and was able to get relief from my suffering.

    So you see, that’s what you can expect.  Anything else you read about side effects you COULD get, not that you will get. 

    It’s important to know that we all have different reactions.  You may experience some of the other SE’s you’ve read about but don’t ponder them now.  If they happen, deal with them at the time.  Quite like living life….you can prepare, you can know what might happen, but you never know what will happen.  Look at chemo the same way, because that’s exactly what it is.

    I hope in your continued participation in this thread.  You will read many, many times about positive experiences, great hints and tips to handle some of the side effects that might arise, but more than anything else, you will find encouragement and support from a large group of women who are going thru the same medical treatment you are for a terrible disease we never thought would touch us.  You will find that we are a very positive group of ladies, but there are times a large group has chemo on the same day and the SE’s they are experiencing may overshadow everything else currently being posted.  It’s just the rhythm of the thread….it’s not that it’s the essence of this thread.

    I hope I’ve been able to put in perspective what you are currently reading and know that it is important for us to be able to vent our pain or discomfort and reach out for help from others who are also going thru the same thing.  And know that we will be here for you as well, in whatever comes up in your life that you wish to share or questions you may have, or just a shoulder to cry on – we are all here for each other and you will not be let down.

    On a more personal note: It’s normal to be nervous.  I was among a small group that had no nerves going into this phase; a strange calm set over me a couple days before my original start date (which was 9/26 but was delayed until 10/24 for various reasons) and stayed with me right thru the first infusion.  I left the infusion center feeling exactly the same as I did when I arrived, exactly.  No side effects whatsoever.  Nausea began about 5 hours later but I didn’t recognize it for what it was.  I thought I had just way too much fluids in my system – but awoke 2 hours later feeling very sick to my stomach.  I never threw up so opted to ride it out but feared most that I could not eat (the mere thought made me sick!) Still felt very poorly the next day, called, MO on call phoned in 2 new prescriptions and told me to call him if neither worked and he would arrange an infusion be done at one of the local hospitals to get the nausua under control.  The meds he provided worked, I ate, I slept, and was most thankful for his help. 

    Regarding ports – I was adamant I wouldn’t have one; didn’t want anyone cutting into my chest again.  As it turned out, my PET Scan was lighting up in my right nodes so I had to go in for another surgery to get one particular node removed so I told them to just put in the port.  It does make chemo easier, every medical professional will tell you so.  Having only had it accessed once, I can tell you it was MUCH easier and painless than having an IV in the hand or arm….and you feel nothing during infusion.  And you’ll have lots of blood draws, all of which can be taken thru the port.  It is a very personal decision….but I’m glad I opted to have one and think it made my first chemo much more tolerable than it would have been.

    Hoping you stick with us.  You’ve stumbled upon a large group of very caring and supportive women who want to help others.  And, as you have found, we also reach out when we feel poorly so that others can help us along this journey. 

    Hold tight to your faith!  Let those around you help!  And know we are here to support and encourage you should you want or need us!


  • Headeast
    Headeast Member Posts: 619
    edited October 2013


    Colliemom, I got a rash a week after my first treatment, chest, all the back and arm. My MO told me it was the chemo, and to take Benadryl. The next morning the rash was gone.


    I am taking pictures of all those strange things that pop up in my body and showing them to my MO. I also sent some pictures via text to one of the on call doctors the day of the rash and that helped them with the diagnostic.


    I hope this helps.


    Feeling tired today. I am sooo happy I don't have to worry about work. For the first time. I am worrying about myself... I will just stay in bed and watch movies and try to sleep.


    Just had instant oatmeal, one whole wheat toast and sugar free jelly. Ran out of peanut butter.


    Ladies who are working: I don't know how you can work like this! Night night!

  • lgkgde13
    lgkgde13 Member Posts: 164
    edited October 2013


    furfriend- I am right there with u. I get sick thinking about AC treatment. I try not to think about it bc I think the anxiety is worse than it actually is :)


    This all sucks honestly but for me I try to think one of the upsides for me. My mom comes and stays with me during my treatment weeks. She is 78 and I am one of her last kids (8 of us in total). This time has allowed me to spend more time with her which Is a blessing and time I don't think I would have had otherwise. My mom told me she often wonders why she is still here (my dad passed away at 54) and she said she now knows...to help me and my other sisters when we need her :)

  • lgkgde13
    lgkgde13 Member Posts: 164
    edited October 2013


    relocated- so glad u are feeling better today!!!! Yeah it is so wonderful when we turn the corner to that day of feeling great. It helps us to get through the rest of treatments.


    Welcome everyone! This board has been wonderful for me with an incredible group of sisters!!


    I am off to 3rd treatment tomorrow of AC. I am going to go soak up the day :) I am getting more comfortable with my bald head (still have some stubble but not much). Been switching between cool winter hats and my wig. I haven't found a head scarf yet that I a comfortable with yet.


    Hope everyone had a great day with little or no SE.

  • Tipps04
    Tipps04 Member Posts: 16
    edited October 2013


    relocatedtarheel


    I have found 100% apple juice works really well for me. I am able to drink tons of water, but sometimes just need something with flavor. The apple juice quenches my thirst and has flavor.

  • 2timer
    2timer Member Posts: 590
    edited October 2013


    4 days post my first AC treatment and things are still going okay. Other than a bit of fatigue and queasiness, no big problems. Able to go to work (desk job). So far so good. I hope things continue like this but I assume chemotherapy is a cumulative type of treatment so I won't be surprised if I start feeling worse in the weeks a head. Took claritan and am not having SE's from the neupogen shot (or is it neulasta?). I am just taking it a day at a time and be grateful I can live somewhat normally. Does anyone know if it gets worse with the future treatments? I could really live with things like they are now.


    I am trying to get down a gallon of water a day (I use the bathroom a lot) because I want this poison out of my system asap. Plus it's supposed to help with constipation. I also take a multivitamin and will get some omega oil pills to take daily. Too soon for hair to fall out but I'm hoping I can last until my next treatment on Thursday, then I'll get it all cut off and find some wigs, scarves and caps. Wishing everyone who is having problems better luck this week.

  • SuckitBC
    SuckitBC Member Posts: 34
    edited October 2013


    Hi ladies, I am feeling much better today. Thanks for all your support and advice, this weekend was tough! I finally slept although only for 5 hours in the last 48-anyone else have ridiculous insomnia? I am assuming it is from the steroids. Anyone know how long you can feel the effects of the steroids for?


    I shaved my head yesterday after weeks and weeks of saying I didn't care, but as I watched my hubby remove more and more hair I started to cry. It wasn't because my hair was gone, it's hopefully going to grow back nicer, but I cried because I look sick, I look like a cancer patient now. It's crazy how different I look compared to just a few months ago. I'm sure you can all relate.


    For those of you with ports-are you able to sleep on your side? I have been stuck sleeping on my back since my diagnosis in July and it's driving me crazy. First it was because of the BMX, but then it became because of the port. Just wondering...

  • gia444
    gia444 Member Posts: 68
    edited October 2013


    Welcome CollieMom & SpiritBlessing,


    You will get lots of support here. I don't know what I would do without this board. I sometimes get up in the middle of the night and come on here. We will get through this...

  • VintageGal1111
    VintageGal1111 Member Posts: 705
    edited October 2013


    I got good news today! The MO/nurse finally let me know that I will NOT have to have the Neulasta shot at all during my 3 months of Taxol/Herceptin. PHEW! I didn't know how much if at all the Taxol affected wbc and neither infusion nurse could answer me last week.


    The SEs from this last treatment I am quite sure are mostly from the shot on Wednesday. This is the first day I felt ok enough to even try driving! Really put me down for the count for several days.


    So while I still (after 2 months) have a year of treatment left at least I only have one more Neulasta shot!

  • kcat2013
    kcat2013 Member Posts: 391
    edited October 2013


    suckitbc, I'm glad your feeling much better today. I'm on day 4 and I actually woke up feeling somewhat normal this morning, still a bit queasy and quite tired but I can handle that. I had trouble sleeping the first 48 hours also. Finally yesterday evening I was able to nap for about an hour on the couch and then slept about 7 hours last night. So thankful for restful sleep!

  • VintageGal1111
    VintageGal1111 Member Posts: 705
    edited October 2013


    Tipps04


    I have mostly stuck with ice water & ginger ale. And GatorAde occasionally. Juices just added to the mouth sores. Is that a SE you have?

  • travlmom
    travlmom Member Posts: 90
    edited October 2013


    Welcome Colliemom and SpiritBlessing


    Lili put everything into a good perspective. I had a rough 1st round because I did not take the meds as I should. After talking with my MO, I have a better plan for this Wednesday's treatment #2 and the days that follow. I have felt more like myself the last week and a half. I do TCH every three weeks and herceptin only the 2 weeks in between. Stay ahead of your nausea and pain. As my MO told me as I sat in the office with him with my head in my hands - This is not the time to be the hero - take the meds and allow your body to heal after each treatment.


    Today I went to see my Genetics Dr - great news I am NOT BRCA1 or BRCA2 positive! So I am just lucky I guess. This afternoon I am going to the Look Good Feel Better class.... cant wait to learn how to put clown makeup on --- I rarely wear it - but can already tell I need some added color.


    Wednesday is #2 - I am praying for an easier time with pain management. Wishing everyone a good week.

  • mfm48
    mfm48 Member Posts: 110
    edited October 2013


    Colliemom and Headeast - I got a very uncomfortable rash about 15 days from 2nd tx. Dr. did not think it was chemo related but likely picked up somewhere else in my immunocompromised state. I tried a bunch of over the counter methods but was in so much discomfort, finally got to a dermatologist who prescribed Allegra, a fluocinoninde cream and hydroxyzine tablets. It cleared up for the 3rd treatment last week, but made another appearance today. The meds are keeping it from really bothering me, but are also contributing to my fatigue.


    As for bone pain, I would highly recommend managing it with whatever pain meds you have. The ibuprofen and tylenol did nothing for me the first time. I took the Percocet every night for relief. And the Lorazipem helped me sleep like a baby. Same the second time around. THis last time, I started taking ibuprofen the day after Neulasta and have not had any problems. Nor have I had to take any pain meds.


    It is just so important to hydrate to get rid of all this poison inside through you. Honestly, the first time I was 16 days of feeling terrible. The 2nd time was much more manageable. I'm 5 days from my 3rd treatment now and feel pretty tired and icky, but I know it will improve in a few days. Stay strong. You can get through this!!

  • Headeast
    Headeast Member Posts: 619
    edited October 2013


    travlmom,


    Something that I think helped me with my SEs is that I ate bland food a few days before the chemo treatment. Food that is good for your liver, kidneys. I guess they didn't suffer as much as with heavy food.


    VintageGal, I am so happy you don't have to deal with Neulasta! I haven't had any yet, and for what I read I don't want it!

  • Pam358
    Pam358 Member Posts: 294
    edited October 2013


    SuckitBC - I sleep on my non-port side and have slept a few minutes or rested on my port side but don't sleep on that side routinely.


    Travlmom - good luck on Wed! I was thinking of going to a Look Good Feel Better workshop I'll be interested in hearing how it goes. Congrats on being BRCA 1&2 negative!

  • DoxieMomof3
    DoxieMomof3 Member Posts: 14
    edited October 2013


    Thanks everyone who commented on the rash on my hand. I had an appt with my MO today and everyone was stumped. All the nurses and the doctors were looking at it, and the only thing they think it can be is a reaction to the Benadryl(I did get alot of redness on the top of my hand while they were giving me the Benadryl, but it went away pretty fast) that they had to give me for my reaction to the Taxotere. It is getting better so they decided to just keep an eye on it and see if it happens again.


    But on the good news, my WBC went from 1.3 Wednesday to 19.8 today :) So the evil shot did its job!


    Collie

  • Viji
    Viji Member Posts: 195
    edited October 2013


    Well said Lili, I agree with you a hundred percent. I often wonder what I would do without these discussion boards. They have enriched my life tremendously. And it is like holding on to a hundred hands of support..


    Hang in there everyone we will get through this.

  • naiviv
    naiviv Member Posts: 535
    edited October 2013

    Lots of crushed ice and gingerale seems to be working for me. I didn't really want the sugar, but it's working so Im not complaining, and am able to keep advil in for the bone aches. Going to go to bed as early as I can and sleep through it.

    Feel good all,

    Vivian

  • Gramof2boys
    Gramof2boys Member Posts: 194
    edited October 2013


    How is everyone this evening? Hopefully nausea is improving for those of you who are dealing with it. I don't know if it's just me but I have had no nausea problems,( knock on wood), day 4 #2 and I would recommend that you take your nausea meds regardless of whether you think you need it. My MO said to take for 3 days around the clock after treatment and it has worked for me. I didn't really wake up in the middle of the night to take them but if I woke up and it was time I would take it. Good luck, back to work for me tomorrow!


    Julie

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