Gerson Therapy

Mouse whisperer? Yeah, that qualifies him to diagnose and treat cancer. Not.

Joelle, that is certainly true. However, in this case I was fairly specific - I don't think someone without some sort of medical/science background should be making public pronouncements about the wisdom of Jolie's surgery or about genetic science. Also, this Null person is not a scientist, even if he is possibly knowledgable about fruit juice etc.

ETA: Let me amend that. Null or my grocer or anyone really can obviously make all the pronouncement they like, but if they have no legitimate credentials I see no reason to take their pronouncements seriously.

A Ph.D. in "caffeinism?"

I almost spit my own caffeine all over my computer screen when I read that.

Laughing all the way to the bank, is ol' Gary. I have no doubt that he makes a lot more money than almost all real doctors.

Thank you for the link, Momine. Very informative.

Jolie has a gene that nearly guarantees that she will get breast cancer. As someone who has breast cancer, I totally understand why she would want to avoid that. Gary Null doesn't know what he is talking about. Reading studies does not mean understanding genetics. Just saying...

Why would you expect no one else here has read those BRCA studies? I have read those studies (they are available out there to access for anyone who wants to read them), the four genetic counselors I have seen have read those studies, my high risk breast health team (which includes a medical oncologist, a breast surgeon, etc) have all read those BRCA studies. Of course, as *I* am not a geneticist, I would never propose to be an expert in genetics, whereas several of my medical providers are.

Angelina Jolie has never said exactly what mutations she has, but she has, as BRCA1, up to an 87% lifetime risk of breast cancer and more than 60% risk of ovarian cancer. She, like many others with BRCA mutations, or with other high risk mutations or histories, have made a choice to try and reduce that risk dramatically. I know many, many women who have had PBMXs and it is not "easy" for any of them, but after seeing family member after family member die they make a decision to try and put a stop to that family history. "Beautiful body parts" or not, as to me that is not even relevant, ones perspective can change when you know those body parts are likely to kill you, and that can be the case even before a diagnosis. BRCA1 cancers are also usually highly aggressive and triple-negative, and hit at an early age. Not all choose to get preventative surgery, but it is a completely viable option.

I am not BRCA+, I am high risk based on family history and what is expected to be polygenic factors or an unknown mutation are at play. I am fortunate not to have to worry about ovarian cancer...but believe me after three to four generations where every single women in my family has had breast cancer and most have died from breast cancer mets, I will do what I can to save my life. I like my real breasts very much. But not enough that I want to see them kill me.

Like anyone, Null can comment on anything he likes, but his ignorance is apparent and it is scary that anyone who IS BRCA+ might take his comments to heart.

before jethro kloss georges osawa came to town & began to get a generation off of sugar, coffee & dairy

interesting links. I drink 2 cups of de-caf grean tea a day as part of the hopeopathic protocal I was given over 2 years ago. I've found a site which sell green tea fortified with mango & papaya? flavorings, presumably enzyme rich. I drank lots of coffee, bustello some years the very strong puerto rican brand, not sure if it's still available, most users have never even tried to stop using. I did many times. stopping coffee is the most painful withdrawal in my experience which includes heroin. not life threatening, but extremely difficult. the adrenals give out, I once had to rest several times on the walk from town, less than 2 miles. rest meaning liying down beside the road! I've now not had a cup of coffee for going on 7 years. I'd tapered off gradually with oolong tea, & the withdrawals than weren't but I'd fear going back to it. I once ate a caf,fein berry, Id think perhaps that the roasting gives the danger. I't used a lot in the gerson protocal, by way of organic coffee enemas.

Abigail, coffee in moderation is not dangerous.

Bronxgirl, LOL, same here. I did give up coffee when I was pregnant, because back then, the powers that be had decided it was not good to consume caffeine when pregnant. When dd was a few years old, they decided it didn't matter after all and that it was fine to drink a few cups a day. Grrrrr! I vowed never to give up my morning coffee lightly ever again. I drink 2 mugs of coffee every morning, as well as several glasses of water in summer and in fall/winter a pot of decaf green tea with fresh lemon.

thanks for your response Momine. Sounded a lot more acceptable in the latest post ;-)

Hi

I am posting of behalf of my 65 year old mom (diagnosis below). (My mom had been taking hormone replacement therapy for years but has stopped. My mom also has Osteo arthritis)

I am a believer in the Gerson Therapy, I've watched three documentaries and done a ton of research.

My parents don't have health insurance, and therefore got the diagnosis at a public hospital in South Africa.  Chemotherapy was started on the day they received the biopsy (from the lumpectomy) result. No warning, no options. I was furious.

It's a few weeks until the next chemo treatment, and I'm trying to persuade my mom that it's not too late to not go back.

My parents can't afford to do Gerson Therapy strictly, but already follow a healthy lifestyle.

Should my mom rather go through with chemo, or try do the Gerson therapy as best she can, based on the diagnosis?

I've heard that people have cured cancer just by switching to a vegan diet...

Am I being a hippie? I just feel very anti-chemo...

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Well, if she already follows a healthy lifestyle and can't afford to do Gerson therapy....what would change from what she was doing before her diagnosis (and here I am not saying in ANYWAY that her lifestyle caused her cancer but as in...why would that be any different than what they were doing before the diagnosis anyway). 

I think living a healthy lifestyle is a great thing. That does not require Gerson. I also think chemotherapy is very important depending on the diagnosis; as it will hopefully work to reduce risk of mets. 

Juicing and coffee enemas are not a cure for cancer; even even lifelong vegetarians and vegans get cancer. 

As Momine said, chemotherapy is supported by research. Do your mother's doctors have a plan for her to also go on anti-hormonals after chemotherapy?