October 2013 Chemotherapy
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Day 16 and this afternoon my head started to getting tingly (sp). The hair has begun to shed. I am so full of mixed emotion. I thought I was ok with it. I knew it was going to happen. But now I am a bit upset. I think it is because this makes it more real for my son and I am worried about him. Oi'!
The countdown is on for Chemo#2.. 5 days . blech. -
I got through my first chemotherapy treatment today. I got through it fine except in the very beginning when I had a small meltdown in the waiting room. I haven't yet cried over this so I guess I was due for some kind of outburst. After that I just went through all of the steps. I have to say that the people at my treatment center are great. I think they are working there not only because they're very good at what they do but because they are friendly, compassionate, and really seem to care about the patient. I am treated at a NCCI center that is only for breast cancer; it is separate from the main hospital. It's very nice, has private "cubicles" for each patient and they are constantly bringing you stuff like water, snacks and they even had popsicles.
As far as the SE's go so far so good. But it's only been 5.5 hours. I'm still drowsy from the emend but other than that I feel fine. I planned to take tommorrow off but I may go in (no sense in wasting sick leave I might need later). I am hoping I tolerate the SE's well and most importantly that these treatments WORK. I asked the doc about claritan and L- glutamine and she said ok. Anyway, getting ready to crash. Hope everyone is doing ok with their chemo. -
Hang in there Travelmom. I am right there with you -- not sure we are ever really ready for it. I had to wear a hat to work for the first time today, since every time I touch my head I come away with a dozen hairs stuck to my fingers. My scalp is sore, kind of like when you were a kid and had a tight ponytail all day and then took it out. Got lots of compliments on my hat, though, and DH is being very upbeat and supportive. He keeps telling me it will start to grow back very soon -- just temporary. So although I felt sad this morning, I ended the day feeling better. Called my stylist to have her buzz what is left on Saturday -- I think that will be hard. -
Headeast
10 % solution of antibacterial dishwashing soap and water to clean veggies and fruit. The bleach solution is for cleaning counters and cutting boards etc.
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2timer, I started my chemo treatment exactly like you, I cried. It felt good, I never do it. I asked for Ativan because I was too nervous and shacking. For the second treatment I didn't cry but I was shacking, for no reason, just plain nervous. I requested Ativan again and went perfect. Calmed me immediately? It is easier for my body, even though I never take any pills of any kind, now I am.
Now, about work. I know it is not my business, but I did the same thing you did too. I used my vacation days first and then I just could not function. Remember you feel ok-ish now because you are filled with steroids. But the days 3-5 I was so tired I almost stayed in bed all day, and well, in the restroom. I don't know what you do for work or how large your company is, etc., but they have intermittent leave that is for people wanting to go to work the days you feel ok and the leave for the days you need to rest, or the chemo day. There is also Family Medical Leave Act FMLA, requires a number of employees as a minimum, I think 20, and short term leave with pay. You can Google all and find the one that works for you. Good luck in whatever you decide!
Www.cancerandcareers.org is also a good source. -
oh, Vivian, thank you! -
I saw Onc today and got the go ahead for chemo tomorrow. I also found out some confusing info. Chemo regimen stays at TCH
Apparently my breast mastectomy tumor pathology came back Her2 neg, when I had the original biopsy done there was not enough tumor to test for Her2 only ER and PR. So BS ordered test on lymph node. It came back Her2 positve at 100% by both tests. My Onc is ordering biopsy sample of breast and lymph and surgical samples to all be re tested. Have you ever heard of a neg and a pos Her2 at the same time??
Doesn't the breast tumor spread to lymph nodes? How can breast be neg and the lymph positive ? Has anyone ever heard of this? Needless to say mind is wandering, but from surgery I know I had no other tumors in breast and my PET/CAT scan were clear??
Wasn't worrying about starting chemo tomorrow enough?
Thankful that xanax works...
Vivian -
Xanax is definitely in order. I am curious about your positive/negative results too. Hopefully, someone will have an answer for you. Just take the anti anxiety meds to get through tomorrow and deal with the rest later. hang in there. -
Vivian, I am sure they will be very careful this time in finding out what is going on. I would say is better more than less medicine. Can it mutate? -
Cleaning veggies and fruit - there is an easier way ladies. Put produce in a strainer, splash with plain vinegar, let sit for a minute then rinse. Does the same thing and then you don't need to put bleach on your food.
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Hopefully chemo #2 for me tomorrow. I hated that I couldn't stay on schedule, I may have to do treatments every 3 weeks instead of 2. I am still rocking my hair, although it is thin (day 21). I will probably shave it this weekend and wear my wig to work and hats at home.
Good luck to everyone who has treatments coming up, I hope I'll be 50% done tomorrow. -
To all, I found this video easy to follow and love the idea of having a long hair-like scarf!
This girl is inspiring!
Lisa, I am taking note of that one too! Thank you! -
I had my first treatment yesterday. Easy as pie. Got home at 530 took aprecautionay dose of nausua med about 630...by 730 I was seriously ill. Threw up for a couple of hours..finally about 3 this morning I started nibbling crackers and sipping coke. So far so good. Wayy to soon after treatment for that rush of sickness to hit me -
relocatedtarheel - what did you receive as your anti-nausea pre-meds? I'm curious because I felt so sick to my stomach last night before going to bed (around 11:00) and I've been up since 1:00 this morning because I continue to feel so sick to my stomach. I, too, was at infusion center until about 5:30 and took the Compazine around 6:00 last night as directed.
We both had our first treatment and both dealing with nausea (I agree - too soon!!) but I've been lucky to not have physically thrown up yet (I'd probably feel better but I'm not one to be able to stick my finger down my throat).
I had Aloxi and Emend as my pre-med anti-nausua; I had Decadron as the steroid. I'm curious if you had the same.....
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I had my first chemo treatment on 10/16 with the Neulasta shot the next days. I had a very difficult time with severe bone pain and severe flu like symptoms. I honestly was not sure how I was going to get through each day last week. I wish I had known it could have been that bad - I was not mentally prepared for what my body went through. I am convinced it was all because of the Neulasta shot as I was doing pretty well until after the shot. Has anyone refused the Neulasta shot and what were the outcomes? I certainly do not want to compromise myself with an already weak immune system, but I cringe at the thought of having that shot again. Thanks! -
I just got the date for my chemo... 10/31, I made it under the wire to stay in the October group. I have to go pick up my premeds, an anti nausea and a steroid.. Picc line put in on tuesday. Feels good to move forward and nerve wracking as well. Oncotype test came back 12....glad I am moving forward with the chemo. Off to be fitted for wig and will be participating in the Look Good Feel better program, anyone else do this? -
Hi Tipps04,
I had excatly sever bone pain as you got on my first chemo, it put me on bed almost a week, cann't stand up and walk around, I believe it caused by the Neulasta, now my second chemo been postponed because my liver undet stress. when ia your second chemo?
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Tipps - did you take Claritan before and/or after Neulasta injection? Did your MO mention this to you?
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School counselors I'm signed up for the look good class on December 2nd. There was a class last week, but it was too early, I hadn't lost any hair. I'm at day 17 and the hair is falling out in clumps. Good thing my ACS wig fitting is monday. First treatment on Halloween, guess you won't forget that day. Are you going in costume :-)
Relocated - definitely talk to your MO about your nausea meds. If what they give you isn't working, don't suffer, try another med. I have three meds at home in addition to my pre-chemo anti-nausea. I read a quote in the chemo literature from a Dr. "He's disappointed when a patient doesn't tell him they are throwing-up, because he can do something about it, if he had known"
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So sorry for the ladies that have nausea and are sick. My MO gave me Emend, Zofran, Metoclopramide, and Dexamethasone. I still have fatigue though.. The meds have really helped. -
SchoolCounselor - I haven't signed up for the Look Good Feel Good Program but I was thinking about it so I'll be curious to hear your thoughts about it. Glad you finally got a date for chemo.
Vivian - sounds like fun to have your kids involved in the next stage of your hair redesign. It could make it a much more positive experience for all of you.
Wrenn - glad to hear your wound is getting smaller.
LgK - there is also a Biotene mouth spray that I've used that helps with a dry mouth. I've used it sometimes at night when my dry mouth makes it uncomfortable to sleep.
Last time my nausea started the same evening as the chemo too and I started my meds the same evening. This time I started the meds after chemo as well but had something extra to add from my MO. He added Reglan to my Compazine. Plus I had a scheduled IV of Dexamethasone and fluids day #2 and will have an IV of Dex and Aloxi plus fluids today. I received Emend and Aloxi and Dex as my pre-meds for chemo. The new regime is not perfect but way better and I haven't thrown up. I do have Ativan to add in as needed too but haven't taken it this time around. -
I went to the Look Good Feel Better program. We got a kit with make up & were shown how to apply it as well as some info & tips on how chemo affects your skin etc. We didn't have a video nor any demonstrations of scarf tying which I was hoping for. We did have a few wigs to choose from, new & free. I was hoping it was more of an ongoing monthly program rather than a one time thing. But good to attend & the TLC catalog has some nice items. (wigs scarves hats etc) -
Tipps04
I believe the worst SEs I have are from the Neulasta shot. I have chemo on Tuesdays & feel great, usually feel fine on Wed when I get the shot. Then the next three days is horrible. Fatique big time but I expected that. But didn't expect the flu like symptoms so bad I can't function. I have taken the Claritan but still have all over body aches, skin that feels so tender & almost hurts just to touch. Just not sure if it is chemo or shot SEs.
I asked the nurses if I would continue to get the shot when I start on T&H for 12 weeks after my last A&C. They weren't sure so I need to speak to my MO. They have me down for weekly T&H & if these SEs are from Neulasta I cannot imagine having it weekly for 3 months/?!!! -
Hi VintageGal111
Just came from doctor and he confirmed my SE's were the Neulasta shot! I knew it!!!! It hurt to touch parts of my body as well - horrible! I took Claritin and Aleve it helped marginally. My blood counts were way better than expected, so doctor suggested I try half a dose of the Neulasta. I asked if we could skip it for the next treatment and he said yes. We will see where my blood counts end up on the next go around and go from there. You should askl your doctor if you can reduce standard dosage from 6mg to something less. There is also another drug Neupogen which I have heard is given on a daily basis for more intense chemo regimen. My friend has this and had minimal side effects. Good luck and let me know how you are doing? -
Hi LiLi1964
Thanks, yes they did tell me about Claritin. It worked marginally, but could have been I only started it after the SE's started. I really thought I was going to breeze through. For anyone taking Neulasta shot for the first time, I would start the Claritin and Aleve day of the shot and continue for at least 3 days. -
Hi Waterloogo
So sorry to hear you had as bad an experience as I did with Neulasta,and that you had to postpone next treatment. Hang in there because it will be worth it to finish treatment. My doctor said I can skip the Neulasta shot for my next treatment which is 11/6/13. If blood counts drop, then he will recommend half dose of Neulasta for my 3rd. -
regarding the Neulasta, i am glad my MO is not prescribing it for my treatment. This is my second session of my TC treatment and the only change he has made this time is two days of Dexamethasone instead of one. My stomach is suffering with the chemo. Expected. Skeaky and eating every couple of hours. -
tipps- I had neulasta first treatment and had reaction to it so could not get for 2nd treatment. They said I might have to go from dose dense to every 3 wks if WBCs were too low. Well I had blood work on Tuesday and 2.3 for wbcs do they said I could continue on dose dense for now
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relocated and lili- hope you are feeling better
and find the meds that work for you to keep that at bay.
Pam- I have the mouthwash but will try the spray for next round. It seems like the dry mouth lasts for one week and then goes away.
I feel good today and will soak up these few days before my next treatment on Tuesday. -
Hey All
Got my second infusion Monday (10-21). Different SE this time. On Wed. I had major nausea even with taking pills. Just the thought of food made me sick. No body aches. If I had a choice.. I'd take the aches over nausea!!
Ms Jean.: I had my hair cut really short (boy's cut) a week ago. That's when I noticed the hair shedding. The last couple of days hair has been shedding like crazy, but still have a lot on my head. I'm going to have it buzzed/shaved this Sunday, (if I make it till then)
I saw my surgeon yesterday, and she was happy to see the lump significantly smaller. If all goes well, the plan is to do skin sparring mastectomy with expanders set in for implant.
That's all
Hope everyone is doing well
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