Gerson Therapy

I would say we don't know what causes anything for sure, only suspects

Momine writes: 'I must, however, take issue with this idea, often expressed and not just by you, that it all depends what someone "believes." I don't think it is a very good idea to base something like cancer treatment on "belief."'

I don't know I just felt a Little offended when I read this. Maybe because I don't want to say anything for sure unless it's absolutely proven. Maybe because someone here is looking for support and it's more like a battlefield where you need to have studies to prove everything.

About the salt - Im trying to find the place where I read it. It has something to do with the ratio of Na in proportion to Mg and I think 2 other elements.

About belief. As Ive mentioned before the placebo effect is not just something someone has made up. It is based on a persons belief.

At the moment I'm also reading "The anticancer mind" by D Servant-schreiber. He discusses among other Things the feeling of helplessness. For example there is a study of healthy people who were asked questions to evaluate their feeling of helplessness. 6 years later those who felt most helpless (it's impossible to reach goals, the future is hopeless) had a 3 times higher mortality rate and developed 160 % more fatal cancers.



Another quote from the book: 'Professor Herberman also demonstrated that women with breast cancer who are better able to face the disease psychologically had many more active NK cells than those who sank into depression and helplessness... Everything suggests that the White blood cells of the immune system... ...are particularly sensitive to feelings of hellessness.'

Maybe I know the answer. I think I felt offended because it wasn't constructive and only took away hope. To me hope is the strongest force we have to live with this disease and overcome it.

re "proven". apparently up to 60% of double blind (ie proven) studies are bogus. the peer review is I'll validate your study if you do the same for mine, is one problem of many. conflicts of interest: studies formed by the makers of the drug they're pushing, etc

yes. & it may not be accurate, may be a smaller figure, possibly larger, I no longer listen that carefully, often reading here or somewhere else while listening & just perk up when I hear something grabbing my attention

MmeJ, Abigail is self-diagnosed and has had her condition for many decades as far as I remember.

I'm here because the undiagnosed & natural only forum was locked in 2011 or 2012

I'd guess from 1964 to 2011 it was merely a cyst

yesterday gary was talking about saponines, how good they are for you, I remember some years ago learning that ginseng? not sure. is rich in them

today I took notes. He doesn't usually talk al the first half hr about breast cancer but today he did for most of it. best if you check him outyourself: progressive radio network listen live tune in.....m-f noon edst. my notes: first about pinenuts, have stuff that helps with eyes. resveritrol, dark grapes, knotweed etc, inactivates the brac 1 gene which is activated, he says, by persistent environmental pollution. curcumin, turmeric, reduces all deaths from tripple negative diagnosis. 19 separate studies about resveritrol preventing breast cancer. flax seed oil reduction of breast cancer deaths by 32% then a bit about oregon grape root, & wounds. helps heal them better than any other plant substance.

I'd like to know where Gary Null got his M.D., as well.

gary has a doctorate from an online school where he's said many times he knew far more that his teachers about nutrition. he read & reports on the professional medical journals. he councils terminal cancer patients & others who have been called terminal by their doctors. he runs marathons. he's nearly 63. from a west virginia town. his father was a judge & a tavern keeper. he was a vegetarian from a very early age, & would free farm animals destined for the table. He has a grown daughter & a granddaughter from her. he days on his fb page that he's divorced

he was born in january 1945, so he's 68.

he said ye.sterday that he recommends surgery to take out the main mass. but for me with my teeny irish bones & at age 77, & with my antipathy to modern medicine I think not. (he went on about angelina jolie taking out perfect;y undiseased breasts. .........the bulliers have thought it good to report the defender of the bullied, though the bullied have not reported the bullied because they know you can't stop speech without stopping some life/

Abigail, since Gary is not a scientist or a doctor or even a nurse, I will take his opinions about BRCA, Jolie's surgery etc with about a handful of salt.

his thesis was on "caffienism"