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  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited October 2013


    I don't remember if I posted this earlier. It is Charles P. Pierce's column from October 1 on the shutdown. He says it better than I ever could. I love Charlie Pierce as much as I like Paul Krugman.


    http://www.esquire.com/blogs/politics/Shutdown_Blues



    THE REIGN OF MORONS IS HERE


    Only the truly child-like can have expected anything else.


    Only the truly naive can be truly surprised.


    In the year of our Lord 2010, the voters of the United States elected the worst Congress in the history of the Republic. There have been Congresses more dilatory. There have been Congresses more irresponsible, though not many of them. There have been lazier Congresses, more vicious Congresses, and Congresses less capable of seeing forests for trees. But there has never been in a single Congress -- or, more precisely, in a single House of the Congress -- a more lethal combination of political ambition, political stupidity, and political vainglory than exists in this one, which has arranged to shut down the federal government because it disapproves of a law passed by a previous Congress, signed by the president, and upheld by the Supreme Court, a law that does nothing more than extend the possibility of health insurance to the millions of Americans who do not presently have it, a law based on a proposal from a conservative think-tank and taken out on the test track in Massachusetts by a Republican governor who also happens to have been the party's 2012 nominee for president of the United States. That is why the government of the United States is, in large measure, closed this morning.



    We have elected the people sitting on hold, waiting for their moment on an evening drive-time radio talk show.



    We have elected an ungovernable collection of snake-handlers, Bible-bangers, ignorami, bagmen and outright frauds, a collection so ungovernable that it insists the nation be ungovernable, too. We have elected people to govern us who do not believe in government.



    We have elected a national legislature in which Louie Gohmert and Michele Bachmann have more power than does the Speaker of the House of Representatives, who has been made a piteous spectacle in the eyes of the country and doesn't seem to mind that at all. We have elected a national legislature in which the true power resides in a cabal of vandals, a nihilistic brigade that believes that its opposition to a bill directing millions of new customers to the nation's insurance companies is the equivalent of standing up to the Nazis in 1938, to the bravery of the passengers on Flight 93 on September 11, 2001, and to Mel Gibson's account of the Scottish Wars of Independence in the 13th Century. We have elected a national legislature that looks into the mirror and sees itself already cast in marble.



    We did this. We looked at our great legacy of self-government and we handed ourselves over to the reign of morons.



    This is what they came to Washington to do -- to break the government of the United States. It doesn't matter any more whether they're doing it out of pure crackpot ideology, or at the behest of the various sugar daddies that back their campaigns, or at the instigation of their party's mouthbreathing base. It may be any one of those reasons. It may be all of them. The government of the United States, in the first three words of its founding charter, belongs to all of us, and these people have broken it deliberately. The true hell of it, though, is that you could see this coming down through the years, all the way from Ronald Reagan's First Inaugural Address in which government "was" the problem, through Bill Clinton's ameliorative nonsense about the era of big government being "over," through the attempts to make a charlatan like Newt Gingrich into a scholar and an ambitious hack like Paul Ryan into a budget genius, and through all the endless attempts to find "common ground" and a "Third Way." Ultimately, as we all wrapped ourselves in good intentions, a prion disease was eating away at the country's higher functions. One of the ways you can acquire a prion disease is to eat right out of its skull the brains of an infected monkey. We are now seeing the country reeling and jabbering from the effects of the prion disease, but it was during the time of Reagan that the country ate the monkey brains.



    What is there to be done? The first and most important thing is to recognize how we came to this pass. Both sides did not do this. Both sides are not to blame. There is no compromise to be had here that will leave the current structure of the government intact. There can be no reward for this behavior. I am less sanguine than are many people that this whole thing will redound to the credit of the Democratic party. For that to happen, the country would have to make a nuanced judgment over who is to blame that, I believe, will be discouraged by the courtier press of the Beltway and that, in any case, the country has not shown itself capable of making. For that to happen, the Democratic party would have to be demonstrably ruthless enough to risk its own political standing to make the point, which the Democratic party never has shown itself capable of doing. With the vandals tucked away in safe, gerrymandered districts, and their control over state governments probably unshaken by events in Washington, there will be no great wave election that sweeps them out of power. I do not see profound political consequences for enough of them to change the character of a Congress gone delusional. The only real consequences will be felt by the millions of people affected by what this Congress has forced upon the nation, which was the whole point all along.



    Among other things, the Library Of Congress is closed as a result of what the vandals have done. Padlock study and intellect. Wander aimlessly down the mall among the shuttered monuments to self-government. Find yourself a food truck that serves monkey brains. Eat your fking fill.





  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited October 2013


    Here is one of Charlie's latest blog posts for today discussing Utah Senator Mike Lee. I am still laughing over his descriptor of the Kochs.




    Senator Mike Lee is sort of the Paul Ryan of the Constitution. Ryan, the zombie-eyed granny-starver from Wisconsin, is a charlatan who has managed to con people to this moment into believing he's some kind of budget and numbers guru, to the roaring hilarity of actual economists everywhere. (The latest of Ryan's many suckers can be found today in The Hill, wherein we find to our amusement that "many think" Ryan, a vice-presidential candidate who failed to carry his own district in the 2012 presidential election, could still "end up in the White House" one day.) Lee serves the same function as an alleged "constitutional scholar," although the available evidence seems to indicate that his understanding of the document in question stalled out at a point half-past the Missouri Compromise.


    Along with Tailgunner Ted Cruz, Lee was one of the presiding geniuses behind the strategy of using the budget process to defund the Affordable Care Act, a brainstorm from which even the Koch Brothers are fleeing as fast as their cloven hooves can carry them (emphasis mine for comic effect). Now, it seems that Lee's futile and loony obsession is starting to cost him back home.


    The poll found 57 percent of all voters want to see Lee be more willing to compromise in the ongoing budget standoff. Lee has strong support - 90 percent - from those who identify themselves as active in the tea party, but among independents, moderate Republicans and Democrats, there is widespread opposition to Lee's position, with nearly three-fourths wanting to see the senator more willing to compromise. Monson said that desire for compromise has also been reflected in Lee's approval rating. In June, Lee's favorability rating stood at 50 percent. In the latest poll, which wrapped up over the weekend, just 40 percent of voters had a favorable impression of Lee. His unfavorable rating was 51 percent in the most recent poll. Even among Republicans, Lee's favorability dropped from 71 percent to 57 percent.


    Lee won his seat by defenestrating hardcore conservative Bob Bennett, so there may be some residual resentment among old-school Utah Republicans. Nevertheless, these numbers are a shroud.





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    Cloven hooves! Hahahahahahaaaaaaa!

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited October 2013


    RL, somebody just must photoshop the Koch bros cloven hoofing it away from Cruz! Bwahahahaha!

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited October 2013


    Just got home and had a late lunch.....read this first thing. http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/10/10/economic-catastrophe-america-senator-coburn/


    Tom Coburn another no empathy, no sympathy, sh** for brains type. I then read everything that was cp'ed or inserted here. There is nothing one can actually say about having to co-exist on the face of this earth with so many 'snakes' in the grass. They go against the grain of everything I've been taught....starting as a little child. They are human but have a brand of inhumanity I cannot fathom. Selling their souls to the highest bidder so they can maintain their GOP seats. Dismissive of anything or anyone who actually makes sense.


    They ( as far as I'm concerned ) don't know a thing about being humble and grateful and not a clue as to why they are on this earth at all. If they think it is to do what I see them taking part in right now.....I'd never, ever not look behind me again. This is not how up-right and honest men behave. Be nice to think at least one or two could have an awakening, but I'm sure all it is on my part is a nice thought and something that has about as much chance happening as an actual snowball in hell.


    Jackie

  • gardengumby
    gardengumby Member Posts: 7,305
    edited October 2013


    rl you have (as always) completely made my day by the posts you provide. Thankyou!!!!

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited October 2013


    Well, Michelle can speak for herself on that one! :-D

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited October 2013


    They stink! I can smell them all the way up here. I hope this doesn't mess with my investments (retirement). In the meantime something to soothe the soul!


    For all the cat lovers!



  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited October 2013


    Adorable kitty! Me want! I'm very worried about retirement accounts too. Fortunately the Dow soared today, but it could just as quickly crash if the lunatics get their way.

  • IllinoisLady
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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2013


    Attention, ATTENTION!!!


    I want everyone standing up singing "Oh, Canada" in honour of Alice Munro. NOW.


    I've been in classes most of today, lovely not to hear any news.


    E - re: why is Boehner such a scared little boy. Two Words. ERIC CANTOR. The teahadists would quickly gather to back EC, so would some of the more rightwing rethuglicans....Boehner really is on the edge - and he does NOT want to lose the goodies of Speakership. The STATUS the power, special terrace...much more than a "corner office" for corporate clones. He has REALLY dug himself into a whole, and doesn't seem to have the requisite intelligence to know what to do when you're stuck in a hole, stop digging. Maybe all that using Tang as a facial moisturizer has effected what's left of the gray matter. Serious loser. Serious.


    Koch supposedly told Heritage Action ( which of course they fund) to stop harping on ACA. As the Brits wold say, "It's a losing wicket."


    More mojo for E, lots of SORTS for whoever needs them, RL too, you're on a roll with these posts.

  • bluedahlia
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  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited October 2013


    From the American Prospect. I hope it c & p's ok:

    Perverting the State of Our Union







    Steve Erickson


    October 10, 2013


    Tea Partiers mean no good to the country that the rest of us believe in, because they regard the country that the rest of us believe in as no good.



















    The profound truth that’s been lost in the desperate effort to end the federal shutdown is that, more than any time since the 1850s, a significant portion of the current government is hostile to what the rest of us call “union.” Well-meaning talk about doing what’s in the best interests of the country has about it a kind of heartbreaking naiveté. When commentators despair as to whether some Republican members of the House of Representatives understand the consequences of defaulting on the nation’s bills, it’s akin to asking mid-19th-century Southern Democrats whether they understood that the alternative to their intransigence on the issue of slavery was civil war. The answer was that they understood it and welcomed it. In the same fashion, a tenth of the present national legislature finds the country so fundamentally flawed and believes the nation has become such an abomination—as personified by the abomination who occupies the White House and whom they deem a grotesque miscarriage of American destiny—as to be damned in a theological sense, with the only possibility of making a “more perfect union” a cleansing by the fire of economic bedlam. At the very least the plunge of the world’s finances into a death spiral would be one more way of irrevocably staining the Obama presidency, assuming that the fact of this presidency ever having happened at all can’t be utterly nullified and erased from the cognizance of history.


    That history, particularly in the past hundred years in other parts of the world, is rife with examples of a political principle that’s democratically antithetical, which is the Principle of Unreasoning Power. The mechanics of this principle involve the unreasonable cannily placing the burden of reasonableness on those who are reasonable enough to feel the moral weight of that burden, and who therefore can be counted on to eventually collapse from the burden. Reason is for the weak because, by its nature, it acknowledges doubt and the possibility of being wrong, a load from which those who consider themselves more righteous are liberated. Thus an unyielding minority of a minority bends the majority to its will in the same way that it bends to its will truths commonly held by everyone else whether they have to do with environmental science or a president’s birthplace. That minority exists within a surrogate actuality so absolute and enveloping for its most ecstatic submissives that outright hoaxes—reports, for instance, that in the course of the shutdown the president is personally funding Muslim organizations—enter the media bloodstream where they serve a higher purpose against which factuality is irrelevant. Facts themselves are contaminants, conspiratorial in their complexity. Pleas for reason by the reasonable only contribute to the power of the unreasoning by offering the opportunity to restate absolutes.


    It should go without saying that the moment at hand is too crucial to spend trying to convince those who have a vested interest in not being convinced. It’s too crucial to waste preaching the virtues of lucidity to those who have a vested interest in disarray and whose long-term vision of the nation is contingent on a pandemonium that is the political equivalent of End Days. After learning the hard way, a president previously distinguished by almost pathological reasonableness correctly has concluded that more is at stake than the fleeting resolution of today’s turmoil or even the verdict of polls that mostly favor him anyway. Though we always can hope we’re wrong, it appears that his counterpart, the Speaker of the House, is too small a man to trade the status he’s always coveted for the immortality of having saved his country by calling a vote on the budget and then, minutes after its passage, walking away from his speakership, as a hero would do. The speaker, the president and the rest of us are dealing with people who mean no good to the country that the rest of us believe in, because they regard the country that the rest of us believe in as no good. This isn’t a conflict between one version of union and another but, as in the 1850s, between union and a delirious disunion for which its partisans yearn in a manner that’s barely secret anymore.















    Jackie


    Was able to get part of the junk out but not all of it.






  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited October 2013


    Blue - love my garden pic


    meant to tell you, I used one you posted a while ago, brick steps going up to an arch, with purple flowers on both sides, in my watercolour class this am. DARN MY Canon Pixma 500 ( ok, it's 7 years old!) printer, making white lines thru the pic, but still love it.


    "Oh, Canada"

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited October 2013


    Sunnyflowers .. are you able to take some pictures of your paintings and post them here? I would love to see them.


    hugs,


    Bren

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited October 2013


    Sunny -- So very glad that our Alice has won the Nobel Prize for literature. She said this past summer that she was definitely retiring from writing. I wonder if she can......

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited October 2013


    Mother Jones on debt limit default:





    Perhaps you've heard that if Congress fails to raise the debt ceiling by October 17 the United States will face an unprecedented financial default. The way some Republicans talk about the consequences of passing that threshold, you might think that hitting that limit might not be all that bad (Florida's Ted Yoho, in fact, thinks it would be beneficial). But sober-minded economists are describing the ramifications of a default with terms usually reserved Roland Emmerich flicks—like "apocalypse." The full economic fallout of defaulting are unknown. "It's a little like asking how many people will be killed if there's another terrorist attack," says Isabel Sawhill, a budget expert at the Brookings Institution. But we do know that as early as October 22 the US government will run out of money to pay its bills and federal spending will have to be cut by about 32 percent, according to an estimate by the Bipartisan Policy Center (BPC). That's when Americans of all stripes would start feeling the pain in many different ways. Here are 16 of them:


    1. Social Security payments will be delayed, possibly cut. According to President Obama, in the event of a default the US government will have no choice but to delay Social Security checks. The government owes $12 billion in Social Security payments on October 23 and an additional $25 billion on November 1. At some point between October 22 and November 1, the BPC predicts that the US government will have exhausted its borrowing power and will either have to start severely delaying its bills or sort through the millions of different payments it makes each month—on everything from national parks to the FBI—to figure out which ones to stop paying. That's when Social Security could see sustained cuts.


    2. Federal employees will be screwed…even more. Furloughed federal employees haven't been paid since the government shutdown began on October 1. Congress is unlikely to end the shutdown without raising the debt limit, meaning furloughed staffers would be unlikely to receive paychecks anytime soon.




    3. Pay and benefits for military service members and veterans will be delayed, possibly cut. The US government owes $12 billion in pay to active and retired military service members on November 1. Those payments will be delayed if the government runs out of money before then, and potentially cut, depending on which bills the US decides to pay.


    4. Medicare and Medicaid checks will be delayed, possibly cut. The US government owes $2 billion in Medicaid payments on October 30 and $18 billion in Medicare payments on November 1. Same deal: If the government runs out of cash before then, payments will be delayed, or put on the chopping block with everything else.


    5. College kids will lose their private loans and have (even more) trouble getting jobs. The Treasury Department has warned that after a default, interest rates will skyrocket. Nick Schwellenbach, a fiscal policy analyst for the Center for Effective Government, says "federally subsidized loans would likely be buffered, but education grants funded by discretionary spending would likely stop during a default. Additionally, increased costs of borrowing would impact students who rely on credit cards and private loans to make ends meet. After graduation, economic downturn and uncertainty could once again increase unemployment rates for recent graduates."


    6. Say goodbye to your retirement savings. After the US government defaults, stock and bond prices are likely to fall dramatically, affecting the value of retirement accounts. A default could also trigger a financial crash that could match or surpass the 2008 meltdown, when retirement age Americans lost 25 percent of their assets. So Americans planning to retire will likely have to postpone that move to Boca.


    7. Good luck buying a home. As the Treasury Department points out, a default would cause mortgage interest rates to skyrocket and banks to tighten their already super-tight lending standards, by requiring higher down payments, among other things. It may not even take an actual default, but the threat of one, to affect mortgage rates. During 2011's debt ceiling debacle, interest rates jumped and stayed that way for months. As a result, an American taking out a mortgage of $235,000 saw an increase in monthly payments of about $100.


    8. Or a car. See above.


    9. Or getting a credit card. Ditto.


    10. And forget that trip to Paris. A default is widely expected to tank the value of the US dollar. That could be good for US manufacturers, but it's bad if you're planning a trip abroad where the buying power of the US dollar will be seriously diminished. And the recent political turmoil is already hurting American currency: As the government shutdown began, the dollar "sank to its lowest against the Euro in more than seven months and its weakest level versus the UK pound since January," the Wall Street Journal reported.


    11. That's probably for the best since your company might not be able to pay you. Commercial paper, or short term corporate debt, is issued by many large companies to meet payroll and accounts receivable obligations. A default would cause commercial paper rates to spike, says Cornelius Hurley, a professor at Boston University's School of Law and a former counsel to the Federal Reserve's Board of Governors. That means corporations that don't have a lot of cash socked away "may be unable to meet payroll obligations."


    12. Also, you might lose your job. According to Hurley, post-default "unemployment will spike immediately as firms suspend new and replacement hiring and comb their work forces for cuts."


    13. And you might not be able to get a new one. According to the Treasury Department, "many private-sector analysts believe that [a default] would lead to events of the magnitude of late 2008 or worse, and the result then was a recession more severe than any seen since the Great Depression."


    14. Small businesses will be hit especially hard. Entrepreneurs don't want to take out loans when there's high uncertainty about borrowing costs, and banks don't want to lend to businesses that don't have an established history of success. As the Center for Effective Government's Schwellenbach explains, "In the wake of the 2008 crash, the credit freeze disproportionately affected small businesses. After June of 2008, lending to small firms decreased almost 18 percent."


    15. So will local governments. Schwellenbach says, "Instability in the stock market and higher borrowing costs could decrease confidence in municipal bonds, which are used to finance local schools and infrastructure projects. Unlike the federal government, many states and local governments are unable to borrow to avoid budget cuts, if the budget doesn’t balance. Additionally, a downturn in small business investment, potential decreases in employment, and a depressed housing market could all deprive local governments of revenue and strain resources."


    16. And, after all is said and done, the US deficit will increase. "When there's a threat of default"—let alone an actual default—"you see interest rates go up on treasuries, so you have to have more government spending to pay back the interest," says Harry Stein, the associate director of fiscal policy for the Center for American Progress. "So then you end up increasing the deficit. If that's really all you care about, then you'll see that playing with the default isn't even productive. So why are we talking about this?"



  • Chickadee
    Chickadee Member Posts: 4,467
    edited October 2013


    we sometimes don't realize how the diarrhea coming out of the mouths of media hypers affects different people.


    All day today we were worried because one of my sons former group home residents ran away this morning from the group home. Finally through an amber alert he was found this afternoon. He is a almost 60 year old mildly retarded man. Very sweet but anxious.


    When interviewed he said he was headed for the main ofc of the group home to find the house manager. He believed from TV that with the govt shut down he was going to lose his benefits, his social security, and the group home would close and he would be homeless.


    His TV viewing will be supervised for now.

  • bluedahlia
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  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited October 2013


    I hope this one copies......likely you have all seen it.


    Warren Buffett, in a recent interview with CNBC, offers one of the best quotes about the debt ceiling:



    "I could end the deficit in 5 minutes," he told CNBC. "You just pass a law that says that anytime there is a deficit of more than 3% of... GDP, all sitting members of Congress are ineligible for re-election.



    The 26th amendment (granting the right to vote for 18 year-olds) took only 3 months & 8 days to be ratified! Why? Simple! The people demanded it. That was in 1971 - before computers, e-mail, cell phones, etc.



    Of the 27 amendments to the Constitution, seven (7) took one (1) year or less to become the law of the land - all because of public pressure.



    Warren Buffet is asking each addressee to forward this email to a minimum of twenty people on their address list; in turn ask each of those to do likewise.



    In three days, most people in The United States of America will have the message. This is one idea that really should be passed around.



    Congressional Reform Act of 2013



    1. No Tenure / No Pension.



    A Congressman/woman collects a salary while in office and receives no pay when they're out of office.



    2. Congress (past, present & future) participates in Social

    Security.



    All funds in the Congressional retirement fund move to the

    Social Security system immediately. All future funds flow into

    the Social Security system, and Congress participates with the American people. It may not be used for any other purpose.



    3. Congress can purchase their own retirement plan, just as all Americans do.



    4. Congress will no longer vote themselves a pay raise.

    Congressional pay will rise by the lower of CPI or 3%.



    5. Congress loses their current health care system and

    participates in the same health care system as the American people.



    6. Congress must equally abide by all laws they impose on the American people.



    7. All contracts with past and present Congressmen/women are void effective 12/1/13. The American people did not make this contract with Congressmen/women.



    Congress made all these contracts for themselves. Serving in

    Congress is an honor, not a career. The Founding Fathers

    envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their

    term(s), then go home and back to work.



    If each person contacts a minimum of twenty people then it will only take three days for most people (in the U.S. ) to receive the message. Don't you think it's time?



    THIS IS HOW YOU FIX CONGRESS!



    If you agree, pass it on. If not, delete.




    Don't I wish. It seems to me some of these things have been discussed before. I have something of a faulty memory, but the way things are right now....I think I'd vote for this hands down....almost no questions asked.


    Jackie


    Chickadee.....glad that man was found and is now back home. How awful for him.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited October 2013


    Today's Progress Report

    Government Shutdown Pain Spreads


    Oct 10, 2013 | By CAP Action War Room

    7 Ways the GOP Shutdown is Hurting Americans


    House Republican leaders are at the White House right now presenting their plan to give the nation a six-week reprieve from certain economic doom by agreeing that Congress will pay the nation’s bills through November 22.


    We’re glad the Republicans recognize that we absolutely cannot risk an economic shutdown by defaulting on our obligations. As President Obama and Democrats have made clear and continue to make clear, it is non-negotiable for Congress to pay the bills Congress itself has already racked up.


    Nevertheless, House Republicans are still insisting on prolonging another crisis – the government shutdown – for absolutely no reason. Republicans started this government shutdown in a failed attempt to deny affordable health insurance to millions of Americans but it should not go on a minute longer, whether it’s over Obamacare, hurt feelings, or any other reason.


    Here are seven stories of the pain that is rippling across America thanks to the GOP shutdown:


    Shutdown Leaves Maine’s Poor Without Heating Assistance As Winter Approaches: Maine has no home heating aid money left from last season as the shutdown wears on the temperatures fall.
    Child Care Subsidies Jeopardized By The Shutdown: While many states should be able to cover the costs during the shutdown, some may not have much money to fall back on.
    Jobless Claims Spike As Government Shutdown Cripples Thousands Of Contractor Jobs: About 15,000 of last week’s unemployment benefit applications came from laid-off government contractors.
    Some Of The Neediest Schools Running Out Of Money As Shutdown Continues: The shutdown is delaying payments that some schools near Native American reservations and military bases need to keep operating.
    The Ongoing Government Shutdown Is Preventing The National Institutes of Health (NIH) From Admitting New Patients To Clinical Trials: NIH clinical trials are typically the last resort for people whose illnesses haven’t responded to other types of treatment. Since the shutdown began last week, just a handful of desperately ill patients have managed to get a spot in an experimental trial at the so-called “House of Hope.”
    Five Ways The Government Shutdown Is Threatening Our Health And Safety: The government shutdown is compromising everything from workplace safety to food security to public health research.
    Republicans Downplay The EPA’s Closure During The Shutdown — Except When It Hurts Their Districts: Some think it’s better when EPA’s not allowed to protect clean air and water. But Rep. Steve King (R-IA) said on Wednesday that he didn’t see why EPA couldn’t just continue writing a biofuels standard he supports.


    BOTTOM LINE: Enough is enough. The longer the GOP keeps the government closed, the more Americans and our economy will suffer. It’s time for Speaker Boehner to allow a vote on a clean funding bill to end this shutdown crisis and re-open the entire government.

  • lassie11
    lassie11 Member Posts: 1,500
    edited October 2013


    When we sing O Canada for Alice Munroe's award, will we use the old words "in all our sons command" or the proposed new ones 'In all of us command"? Margaret Atwood is one of the proponents of the change as is the mother of the first Canadian woman killed in the Canadian Army in Afghanistan.


    I think it might be time to finish reading that book of Munroe's short stories that's on my desk.

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