What foods are you eating to reduce recurrence?

Options
2456740

Comments

  • BrooksideVT
    BrooksideVT Member Posts: 2,211
    edited October 2013

    Ohhhh, the pancakes!  Actually, I have a business trip coming up and already sadly worked through how I'm not going to have the hotel's waffles in the morning. 

    I've greatly, greatly reduced my red meat and fat intake, find myself eating lots of fruit.  Worry a bit about the fructose--want any renegade cells on a very strict diet.  Instead of juices, I'm drinking diet drinks, which I never did before. 

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited October 2013

    I just drink water, plain or carbonated, sometimes with lemon.

  • LJDH
    LJDH Member Posts: 37
    edited October 2013

    BrooksideVT,

    Yes!! I am trying to do low carb no sugar also!  I tried the Ketogenic diet but

    it was too low carb for me, so I do eat some organic bread every so often.

    I dont use too much artificial sweetners, but pure stevia made with no alcolhol.

    I even bought this great cookbook for baking with almond meal and

    I just made some zuchini bread that really is pretty good.  Today

    I am trying an almond meal crust chicken pot pie (lots of work...dont

    think I'm going to be doing this one again..hope its good cause I tripeled the crust recipie and we are going to be eating this for days.....maybe weeks.....

  • SophiaMarie
    SophiaMarie Member Posts: 352
    edited October 2013

    LJDH, what does your cookbook use for sweetener? I've bought/checked out almond flour and coconut flour cookbooks, but they all seem to use agave nectar or some other sweetener I don't want to use. I was going to try to adjust the recipes to use stevia or xylitol, but I haven't tried it yet. Too much effort - and I don't want to waste that expensive flour if it doesn't work!

  • SewStrong
    SewStrong Member Posts: 399
    edited October 2013


    Banana pancakes seem to be sweet enough without any syrup or sugar or honey. I just mash a banana, use organic oat flour, organic eggs, and either water or milk. I haven't given up milk yet, but am wondering if I should. Soy milk could be used, but I wonder if that is just as bad as regular cow's milk. Maybe someone knows a substitute that I don't know about. I love banana pancakes. Sometimes I put Simply Fruit on them for sweetness. That has no added sugar.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited October 2013


    Sewstrong, my pancakes are similar. I use buckwheat flour (low glycemic index), then I add some oat bran or rolled oats, chopped walnuts, cinnamon (evokes sweetness) and raspberries (frozen). For liquid I use lowfat kefir from goat milk, which they carry at my local health food store.


    I think a small amount of regular milk is better than soy milk, but that is mostly feeling. Nobody seems to know for sure about the whole soy and milk business in relation to breast cancer.

  • aviva5675
    aviva5675 Member Posts: 1,353
    edited October 2013
  • AlaskaAngel
    AlaskaAngel Member Posts: 1,836
    edited October 2013
    Momine,

    I drink mostly plain seltzer, sometimes adding lemon juice. I've seen some discussion adverse to using carbonated beverages, but I do drink it.

    Milk - I use 1% organic (to avoid added hormones, pesticides/herbicides, etc., used sparingly.

    I use stevia for my decaf and have gotten used to both. But I haven't tried using it for baking.

    My "weapon" is periodic fasting, which has turned out to be the easiest way for me to lose weight or maintain goal weight, after many tries of all kinds of other methods. It became easier once I gave up gluten products (and any sugar).

    The pancakes and waffles sound great!
  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited October 2013


    Alaska, I had seen that thing about the carbonation, so I checked. Carbonation in itself is not a problem, it is just that most carbonated drinks have all kinds of other crap in them.

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited October 2013


    I think they're carbonated with phosphoric acid. not sure

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited October 2013


    From wiki: "Food-grade phosphoric acid (additive E338) is used to acidify foods and beverages such as various colas, but not without controversy regarding its health effects.[6] It provides a tangy or sour taste, and being a mass-produced chemical is available cheaply and in large quantities. The low cost and bulk availability is unlike more expensive seasonings that give comparable flavors, such as citric acid which is obtainable from citrus, but usually fermented by Aspergillus niger mold from scrapmolasses, waste starchhydrolysates and phosphoric acid.[7]"


    Again, it is added to flavored beverages. The carbonation has nothing to do with it really.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited October 2013
  • SewStrong
    SewStrong Member Posts: 399
    edited October 2013


    momine, That sounds delicious. I will try experimenting. I try not to eat pancakes often because I have to watch my weight and I love them so much, I always overeat on those mornings. I usually make them when I haven't had anything sweet for a time.


    A couple of days before chemo, which for me is today and tomorrow, I eat beef liver and spinach. I know liver is a no no for cholesterol and all sorts of other things because of its being an organ meat, but I don't do it often. When I'm not doing chemo, I only eat it maybe twice a year. I love it and could eat it every week. Maybe when I get to heaven, that is one of my rewards.

    Such a simple thing to ask! My blood counts have been excellent every time. It could be that it would be that way if I did nothing, but I use that as an excuse to eat liver.

  • Gully
    Gully Member Posts: 268
    edited October 2013


    Hello everyone, this is all very confusing! I am 5'2'' and about 120. Have dropped 5 lbs recently. My onc says the paleo diet is the best. Organics of course, but high protein(grass fed), high fat (coconut oil, olive oil etc, grass fed butter and hormone and antibiotc fee cheese is ok, cut out the carbs as much as possible, some fruit- treat it like candy, no gluten, no soy lecithin, no sugar, dont overdo alcohol. etc... Dont know how low I can go on the weight but I do feel much better on this diet. Would like to hit 115. Just thought I would chime in. BTW I am not hungry on this diet which is great and I work out 3 days a week. 2 with weights, and 1 walking.

  • Obxflygirl1
    Obxflygirl1 Member Posts: 377
    edited October 2013


    Gully. interesting about fruit.... To treat it like candy. I eat tons of apples, strawberries , blueberries and grapes. Is there a reason your onc. Says to limit fruit somewhat?


    Haven't heard anything about fruit adversely affecting diet but always want to know if what I'm doing is right.

  • JenSF
    JenSF Member Posts: 45
    edited October 2013


    Dear everyone,


    Just want to share the list. Pretty handy when shopping grocery.


    Jen

  • JenSF
    JenSF Member Posts: 45
    edited October 2013
  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited October 2013


    Obx, fruit has quite a lot of sugar and can spike your blood sugar, if you eat a lot of it. So if you are aiming to keep your blood sugar staple and/or lose weight, it can be useful to limit the fruit somewhat. I do eat some fruit, but mostly a handful of berries with breakfast, and then a green apple sometimes in the afternoon.


    Sewstrong, I used fitnesspal.com for a while, and the pancakes are not hugely caloric. I seem to remember that a serving (1/2 cup flour, 1/2 cup kefir, 1 egg + all the other stuff) worked out to about 350-400 calories. Also, they are nutritious calories, which is important as well.


    Jen, thanks for the list. I have been meaning to look it up and kept forgetting.

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited October 2013


    a farmer in "my" paper the ava works in indiana fields & said his boss put really toxic fungicides I think on his watermellon & the other workers were getting quite sick applying it.

  • AlaskaAngel
    AlaskaAngel Member Posts: 1,836
    edited October 2013
    Momine, thx, the carbonation is one of the few pleasures left since tx.

    Jen, thx for the reminder list. My choices are very limited here (few grocery stores, tiny organic sections) but I do have blueberries and strawberries in my back yard (the great outdoors).

    Gully, it sounds like you are under age 55 maybe.... there seems to be a grand canyon between those whose weight and dieting work well after tx (with 55 being the rough divider line of menopause and metabolic s-l-o-w-d-o-w-n regardless of diet & exercise). I do okay now at age 62, as long as I eat about 1/4 of what I ate prior to tx per day w/o gaining.

    Sewstrong, I like liver a lot too but have dropped it from my diet, knowing that the liver is what separates out and collects and disposes of the toxic matter from our diet... but again, it is hard to nix some of life's great pleasures post tx.
  • Gully
    Gully Member Posts: 268
    edited October 2013


    Alaska: yep under 55, 46 to be exact, but am still in chemopause and am 3 months PFC!


    Obx: fruit has a alot of sugar albeit natural fructose, like someone said it can still spike blood sugar. My onc wants my insulin levels steady without drastic ups and downs in blood sugar levels. He said after I have lost all the weight I want I can add back in. suggest mostly berries and apples. I think he said bananas and oranges are highest in sugar..I live in Maine so blueberries are a staple here, easy to get wild. Also add back in sweet potato and butternut squash later on for carbs. I have been reading "The primal blueprint" by Mark Sisson, makes alot of sense to me.

  • LJDH
    LJDH Member Posts: 37
    edited October 2013
    SophieMarie,

    I swap out pure (no alcohol)Stevia extract to taste.
    I don't use the agave.
    You can buy the Stevia through Amazon or health food type stores, but make sure it says no alocohol.
    The recipies are so good. The chicken pot pie is great!
  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited October 2013


    Gabriel, very simple, you do not have breast cancer. You should not be posting here.

  • SophiaMarie
    SophiaMarie Member Posts: 352
    edited October 2013


    LJDH, I'd love to know the name of your almond flour cookbook!


    Well, I've now lost 34 lbs since July - since the biopsy. A combination of anxiety (which is still high doing rads and seeing tons of drs), not having my huge appetite, and not eating eating sugar (the only fruit are berries) and no refined carbs. I had needed to lose some, but I haven't even been trying. I am enjoying having my body back though!

  • mcgis
    mcgis Member Posts: 291
    edited October 2013


    I'm having a hard time changing my diet. I usually eat the same thing for breakfast for it keeps me pretty regular: AllBran cereal and green tea. I'll occasionally have regular tea or a cup of coffee with too much creamer but I've cut back a lot. For lunches I'll have leftovers of there are any, soups, salads... And for dinner my husband will stop at subway lots or we have chicken, sometimes a steak to help my hemoglobin level. I'm 5'5" and weigh 127-130. I've started to take walks around our neighborhood recently to get my muscles working from lying on the couch for 5 months. So, I've just started making some changes and hopefully with time I'll get better with some of it.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited October 2013


    mcgis, walking is excellent. That was my only exercise all through treatment and for several months after. It really does help, including mentally.


    I would try to get away from the subway sandwiches. Once you get in the habit, sauteeing a piece of chicken and steaming some veggies doesn't have to take more than 20 minutes.

  • ww3354
    ww3354 Member Posts: 18
    edited October 2013


    Brookside, I was told to eat a few nuts or some type of protein with fruit to keep the blood sugar balanced.


    I just had a consult with a dietician and he recommends several small meals each day and to strive towards a plant based diet. He suggested I start taking DIM, calcium d glucarate, theracurim and vitamin d3. He also said to add as many spices to my food as possible and to use colorful vegetables - just to put it in simple terms.









  • JenSF
    JenSF Member Posts: 45
    edited October 2013


    Chia seeds are really good too.....can be added to veggie juice.


    Anyone heard of budwig diet? No idea what it is about....anyone can share some feedbacks?


    Went to their website...quite mysterious......


    Thanks, Jen

  • GrammyR
    GrammyR Member Posts: 702
    edited October 2013


    Claireinaz-you go girl. Sad to say this but I do have re-occurance. ER pos in node near my collar bone, and a suspicion for at least 1 lung lesion on C T. Was clean for 7 years and despite trying to improve my dietary intake I have been getting lax since I reached my 5 year mark Got to 145lbs at 5' 6".


    Hormone blocking pills cause too many SE for me. MO wants me to go on Faslodex inj monthly. Still considering. Have lost 10-12lbs in 7-8 weeks by cutting out all dairy. Went to Almond Milk which is pretty tasty and NO hormones. Coconut and fruit smoothies. No sugar-sweets excect fruit. More veggies- cauliflower,cabbage,carrots, beets,snap peas, . Lentils and Orzo soups. My son thinks I have lost my mind as he misses my big Sunday dinners loaded w/meat and sweets. I will make it up to him once ge sees the light. I was never much of a drinker anyway but now, NO wine or favorite glasses of cider anymore. NO ice -cream -that was really tough. I make a rice pudding w/lots of raisins, cinnamon ,stevia and almond milk. I am afraid I cannot do nuts- my gut reacts too much.


    SIMPLE FACT ladies is that excess fat (lbs) will make those estrogens increase even faster.Just compare our Asian neighbors who have never consumed the junk our grocery stores throw at us. Go organic 100% - I just love Whole Foods even though its a half hour each way. I used to be 108 lbs at the most- thx to genetics, regardless of how much I consumed. My BMI then was 19 it is now 21- 22 and I am not overweight but I woukd still like to take down maybe 5 more lbs. And my BP is down, I am on 3 meds and may be able to drop one soon.


    Your comment re-people making remarks that you need to gain weight is also starting to get to me too. Particularly from overweight friend's.


    So I need recipes ladies- I want to prove that healthy food can taste delicious too.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited October 2013


    Grammy, I am really sorry about your recurrence. This stupid disease really needs a swift kick to the curb.


    I do agree that the most important things we can probably do for ourselves is keep a low weight, eat properly and get exercise.


    I do eat some dairy, low-fat cow's or goat milk/kefir, but I severely limit high-fat dairy, so cheese is an occasional treat.


    As for recipes, check out Greek and Middle-Eastern recipes. The Greek church has a lot of fasting days and that translates into a lot of traditional, vegetarian dishes.


    One of my favorites is green beans, Greek style. You saute a large onion, chopped, and some chopped or squeezed garlic (use fresh, 1-3 cloves) in plenty of olive oil, then you add about 2 pounds of green beans, fresh or frozen, turn those a bit, then add a small can of crushed tomato (or 2-3 fresh tomatoes chopped fine), a couple of bay leaves, salt and pepper, handful chopped parsley and if you like a pinch of hot pepper. Let simmer until the tomato is reduced a bit and the beans are very tender. You can also add a few carrots in chunks and/or a sweet potato in cubes. Eat with some whole grain bread.


    The Greeks cook okra the same way, but I don't really like okra. Those who do could try it this way.

Categories