I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange
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It's all Obama's fault!
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You know, I still don't understand how the regressives don't get that money the government spends goes back into the economy. Apparently they think it evaporates. Governments (Federal, state, local) buy things with that money. They pay employees who buy things with that money. The money doesn't just vaporize into thin air. It buys office supplies, vehicles, asphalt (roads don't pave themselves), power, water, furniture, gasoline, oil -- all things that the private sector makes. And employees spend the money in the economy, buying clothing and cars and groceries, all of which are produced by the private sector. And in exchange, the public gets services like clean air and water, safe and healthful workplaces, passports, identity documents, accurate weights and measures, safe buildings and roads, new roads and bridges, police and fire protection, schools ... I don't get it. I guess they think buildings build themselves safely and roads just appear from nowhere at the twitch of a governor's nose and private sector companies have safe and healthful workplaces out of the goodness of their hearts (look up DeCoster Egg, folks, or the Hamlet Chicken processing plant fire http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hamlet_chicken_processing_plant_fire ).
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Here is something I hope doesn't end up in the trash bin....at least I'm trying to have hope. Of course, this along with so much ties into Blue's post. Now many would likely say I am first and foremost not a nice person --- possibly even a bit touched...or a lot. That is ok. Along with many of the other things in Blue's posts.......the thought is the deed. That is why though I may disagree extremely strongly with the attitudes of the right......I do not condemn them directly....just the ideas.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2013/09/26/another-journalist-admits-republicans-lying-obamacare-video/
Lying is to me just another form of stealing -- trying to steal the truth. It is in fact, the truth that sets you free. It is what enables you ( no matter what decision you make ) to foster solid decisions and when you do that it doesn't just lift you up....it lifts everyone up. It is love and understanding that will save us and this world. Nothing else....so all the money in this world....all the adulation, will be nothing. If you harbor ill will, if you are a destroyer, not a contributor, then enjoy what you have now.....it won't last. I hope some of the doors that are closing will open back up --- like NPR and like decent journalism that does not lie but explains both sides. We all need truth. It is the only thing that will work.
Jackie
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RL..the of the great mysteries of all time.
Jackie
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So much for "job-killing legislation" (do they even understand the meaning of those words?)
Forbes.com Op-Ed by Rick Ungar
9/25/13
Wal-Mart Returning To Full-Time Workers-Obamacare Not Such A Job Killer After All?
Wal-Mart, the nation’s largest employer, announced Monday that 35,000 part-time employees will soon be moved to full-time status, entitling them to the full healthcare benefits that were scheduled to be denied them as a result of Wal-Mart’s efforts to avoid the requirements of Obamacare.
While some analysts believe that the move comes as Wal-Mart is attempting to deal with the negative view many Americans have of its worker benefits program, a closer look reveals the real reason for the shift—Wal-Mart’s business is going south due to the company’s penchant for putting politics and the squeeze on Wal-Mart employees ahead of the kind of customer satisfaction that produces prosperity over the long-term.
In fact, Wal-Mart’s unwillingness to pay most of their workers a livable wage, while avoiding enough full-time employees to properly run a retail outlet, has led to the company placing dead last among department and discount stores in the most recent American Customer Satisfaction Index—a position that should now be all too familiar to the nation’s largest retailer given that Wal-Mart has either held or shared the bottom spot on the index for six years running.
For anyone who has not been following the Wal-Mart saga, sales have been sinking dramatically at the retailer as the company has turned to hiring mostly temporary workers (those who must reapply for a job every 180 days) to staff their stores while cutting full-time employees’ hours down to part-time status in order to avoid providing workers with healthcare benefits.
The result?
Empty shelves, ridiculously long check-out lines, helpless customers wandering through the electronics section and general disorganization at Wal-Mart store locations.
This is hardly a recipe for success.
A recent description of a Wal-Mart store in Newark, New Jersey published by Bloomberg, says it all—
“Three days earlier, about 10 people waited in a customer service line at a Wal-Mart in Secaucus, New Jersey, across the Hudson River from New York, the nation’s largest city. Twelve of 30 registers were open and the lines were about five deep. There were empty spaces on shelves large enough for a grown man to lie down, and a woman wandered around vainly seeking a frying pan.”
The description pretty much sums up what you will find at the typical Wal-Mart store in the United States these days.While the company’s trend toward temporary employees has allowed the retailer to avoid its responsibilities under the Affordable Care Act—a law that Wal-Mart publicly supported only to turn around after passage and work to avoid providing health care benefits to employees—they’ve managed to tank their store sales in the process.
Who would have guessed that a well-staffed store filled with competent and reasonably paid employees might actually have an impact on the success of a company?
Home Depot—that’s who.
According to Zeynep Ton, a retail researcher and associate professor of operations management at the MIT Sloan School of Management, in the early 2000s, Home Depot’s CEO, Robert Nardelli, moved to cut full-time staffing levels while increasing part-time employees in an effort to boost profits by trimming the expense that comes with employing full-time workers. It worked for a short while. However, as Ton notes, eventually customer service declined—and with it, customer satisfaction—leading to a severe decline of same-store sales.
Wal-Mart’s penny wise-pound foolish approach to its business was further well documented in the Bloomberg article referenced earlier where they told the story of Margaret Hancock, a retired accountant from Newark, Delaware, who has always viewed Wal-Mart as her “one stop shopping destination”.
While Ms. Hancock had, for years, been able to get everything she needed at her local Wal-Mart store, recent visits resulted in her failing to locate numerous items as the products were simply were not out on the shelves and available for purchase.
As Hancock explained it, “If it’s not on the shelf, I can’t buy it. You hate to see a company self-destruct, but there are other places to go.”And ‘go’ is exactly what Ms. Hancock did—no doubt to Wal-Mart’s competitor, Costco, a company that experienced a 19 percent increase in profits in Q2 2013 while paying its employees 40 percent more on average (the average Costco wage is $21.96 per hour) than what a Wal-Mart worker can earn. In that same quarter, Wal-Mart numbers revealed the company is going nowhere fast given its current state of operations.
So, where is all that product that once filled Wal-Mart shelves?
Oh, the goods are in the store—either in the back room or in the unopened boxes lining the aisles as they await the availability of a store clerk to get to the rather critical job of moving the merchandise from the box to the shelf where a customer can actually purchase it. But when there are insufficient numbers of store clerks available—due to Wal-Mart’s commitment to using temporary workers or busting its full-time employees down to part-time so as to avoid worker benefit—the products Wal-Mart sells stay off the shelves and unavailable for customers to purchase.
Of course, Wal-Mart’s efforts to keep its workers from earning a decent living while achieving health care benefits has created some full-time work for some.
The company now hires people to work with its employees to help them sign up for Medicaid, the government program that makes healthcare available to Americans who neither get coverage at work or are able to afford it without public assistance.
What that means is that you and I are subsidizing Wal-Mart’s poor treatment of its employees as we pay for their workers health care coverage with our tax dollars and all so Wal-Mart can feather and mask its sinking profits by allowing you and I to pay to pay for their responsibilities, whether we shop at Wal-Mart or not.
The moral to the story?
Wal-Mart is finally learning what all American businesses who seek to avoid their health care responsibilities to employees will soon learn.
It may be a clever enough dodge to cut employees below the 30 hours per week in order to avoid the expectations of Obamacare, but the move comes at a substantial price to be paid in lost revenue and profits. Given that the entire point of business is to show a profit, it is only a matter of time before employers learn what Home Depot learned some years ago and what Wal-Mart is slowly beginning to figure out—you get what you pay for.
Cut back on employees and you will, eventually, cut back on your profits as the savings a business creates by cutting worker hours leads to greatly decreased sales as customer satisfaction disappears.
While there are no shortage of Americans who enjoy deriding the Affordable Care Act as a ‘job killer’, what will soon emerge—and sooner than you may think—is an understanding that the losses experienced by businesses that cut worker hours will far exceed whatever is gained by avoiding giving employees the healthcare benefits their families so badly require.
Don’t believe it?
Just ask Wal-Mart.
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Heh.
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dis·tort (d
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)tr.v. dis·tort·ed, dis·tort·ing, dis·torts1. To twist out of a proper or natural relation of parts; misshape.2. To give a false or misleading account of; misrepresent.3. To cause to work in a twisted or disorderly manner; pervert. -
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Managed to get on the right thread. I'm losing it!
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Blue- the #2 definition of distort certainly fits!
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MaddowblogAn attempt to rewrite democratic rulesBy Steve BenenFri Sep 27, 2013 10:56 AM EDTPresident Obama has said, repeatedly and in no uncertain terms, that he'll negotiate with congressional Republicans about practically everything -- except the debt ceiling. House Speaker John Boehner (R-Ohio) is convinced the president will abandon that posture soon, and start agreeing to give the GOP far-right goodies in exchange for nothing.
Boehner's caucus believes the same thing. Rep. Mike Simpson (R-Idaho) told The Hill, "When Obama says he's not going to negotiate on the debt ceiling, that's just baloney. Ultimately, he will" (thanks to reader F.B. for the tip).
Here's the issue Republicans don't seem to appreciate: Obama can't negotiate on this. It's just not an option because there's more at stake than just a fight over the nation's finances.
Matt Yglesias touched on this yesterday.
The one thing Obama absolutely cannot do under any circumstances is negotiate over the statutory debt limit.
The reason is that Republicans are essentially asking for an end to constitutional government in the United States and its replacement by a wholly novel system.
Quite right.
This will seem like an overly obvious question, but in the American tradition, how does a bill become a law? I mean, in the "Schoolhouse Rock" model? Anyone familiar with Civics 101 knows the answer: a lawmaker has an idea, introduces a bill, and starts the legislative process. There are hearings, committee votes, and floor votes. A successful bill will go to other chamber, and ultimately, to the White House for presidential consideration.
The legislative process is difficult, frustrating, and time consuming. It's filled with pitfalls and choke points. There's arm-twisting and horse-trading. For a bill to become law takes patience and a willingness to compromise.
But this is a feature, not a bug. The process is designed to be hard. It's supposed to be this way.
It's become quite clear, however, that this is a process Republicans no longer have any use for. It's tiresome and fails to offer the results they prefer, so GOP lawmakers have decided to circumvent it altogether -- why follow the American model when extortion is so much more efficient?
Take another look at the ransom note House Republicans put together this week. It is, in effect, the policy agenda the nation would see if Democrats hadn't won the 2012 elections. GOP leaders are, in effect, asking Democrats to adopt the Romney/Ryan platform, election results be damned.
But that's not all they're saying. By presenting such a lengthy wish list of far-right goodies, Republicans are also bypassing the lessons they should have learned from "Schoolhouse Rock." They want to delay the Affordable Care Act? They could write a bill and hope to pass it, or they could take the nation hostage and demand they get their way. They want to destroy the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau? Republicans could offer legislation, or they could threaten to crash the economy on purpose.
And if Obama caves and starts negotiating, a precedent will be set -- impatient lawmakers who simply want instant gratification on proposals that can't become law through the American legislative process can simply threaten the nation with deliberate harm and get some or all of what they want.
Elections used to be about governing opportunities, but they can instead dictate who'll write the ransom notes and who'll read them.
It's precisely why Jon Chait said Obama has to stick to his guns "to preserve the constitutional structure of American government."
I can appreciate why that may seem overly dramatic, but this isn't a typical crisis and the Republican threats aren't typical tactics.
http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2013/09/27/20720305-an-attempt-to-rewrite-democratic-rules?lite
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In other words, they looooooove the Constitution. They wooooorship the Constitution. Until it gets in their way, and then they are perfectly willing to wipe their feet on it to get their way. The laws have been passed through the Constitutional legislative process. The ACA has been held to be a constitutionally valid law by the ultimate arbiter of the Constitution, the Supreme Court (packed, I might add, with some of the most appallingly regressive activist judges in any branch of government today). They cannot muster the votes to overturn the law the constitutional way, so they will take hostage the full faith and credit of the United States (and, not incidentally, the world's economy) to do what they cannot do legally.
And people still vote for them. What kind of people are they?
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And just up from James Fallows at the Atlantic on why this isn't a "both sides are doing it" issue.
Your False-Equivalence Guide to the Days Ahead
A kind of politics we have not seen for more than 150 years
Sep 27 2013Two big examples of problematic self-government are upon us. They are of course the possible partial shutdown of the federal government, following the long-running hamstringing of public functions via "the sequester"; and a possible vote not to raise the federal debt ceiling, which would create the prospect of a default on U.S. Treasury debt.The details are complicated, but please don't lose sight of these three essential points:
- As a matter of substance, constant-shutdown, permanent-emergency governance is so destructive that no other serious country engages in or could tolerate it. The United States can afford it only because we are -- still -- so rich, with so much margin for waste and error. Details on this and other items below.*
- As a matter of politics, this is different from anything we learned about in classrooms or expected until the past few years. We're used to thinking that the most important disagreements are between the major parties, not within one party; and that disagreements over policies, goals, tactics can be addressed by negotiation or compromise.
This time, the fight that matters is within the Republican party, and that fight is over whether compromise itself is legitimate.** Outsiders to this struggle -- the president and his administration, Democratic legislators as a group, voters or "opinion leaders" outside the generally safe districts that elected the new House majority -- have essentially no leverage in this fight. I can't recall any situation like this in my own experience, and the only even-approximate historic parallel (with obvious differences) is the inability of Northern/free-state opinion to affect the debate within the slave-state South from the 1840s onward. Nor is there a conceivable "compromise" the Democrats could offer that would placate the other side.
- As a matter of journalism, any story that presents the disagreements as a "standoff," a "showdown," a "failure of leadership," a sign of "partisan gridlock," or any of the other usual terms for political disagreement, represents a failure of journalism*** and an inability to see or describe what is going on. For instance: the "dig in their heels" headline you see below, which is from a proprietary newsletter I read this morning, and about which I am leaving off the identifying details.
This isn't "gridlock." It is a ferocious struggle within one party, between its traditionalists and its radical factions, with results that unfortunately can harm all the rest of us -- and, should there be a debt default, harm the rest of the world too.
Now a few details:
* The FAA, the FDA, our research organizations, all other public programs from monitoring air quality to modernizing computer systems to staffing the military -- they're all wasting time and money now because of indiscriminate "sequester" cuts and preparations for possible shut-down. For the foreseeable future, the air traffic will keep moving and other functions will go on -- just more stupidly and wastefully. We have that much social capital still to burn.
But: As the WaPo points out, flood relief for Colorado is already being delayed because of shutdown threats. Just within the past week I've heard from people in the scientific establishment about researchers they've had to lay off because of stop-and-start funding; from people in the aviation world about safety upgrades that are being delayed; from someone working with the IRS about a postponed computer upgrade; from diplomats about delayed visa processing; and on through a long list. It's survivable, but it's stupid, and eventually we use the margin up.
** The debt-ceiling vote, of course, is not about future spending decisions. It is about whether to cover expenditures the Congress has already authorized. There is no sane reason for subjecting this to a repeated vote. And there is no precedent for serious threats not to honor federal debt -- as opposed to symbolic anti-Administration protest votes, which both parties have cast over the years. Nor to demand the reversal of major legislation as a condition for routine government operations.
In case the point is not clear yet: there is no post-Civil War precedent for what the House GOP is doing now. It is radical, and dangerous for the economy and our process of government, and its departure from past political disagreements can't be buffed away or ignored. If someone can think of a precedent after the era of John C. Calhoun, shown above in Mathew Brady's famous portrait, let me know.
*** For examples of coverage that plainly states what is going on, here is a small sampling: Greg Sargent, Derek Thompson, John Gilmour (on why Ronald Reagan believed in compromise), Jonathan Rauch, Brian Beutler, Jonathan Chait, Andrew Sullivan (also here), Ezra Klein and Evan Soltas, Dan Froomkin. On today's Diane Rehm show News Roundup, panelists Ruth Marcus, Janet Hook, and Todd Purdum all said with a bluntness unusual for a D.C.-based talk show that we are witnessing the effects not of gridlock but of one party's internal crisis.
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HL - they are people who listen to Fox News and believe that it is "fair and balanced". They are people who read only the blogs and reports that fit in with their world view. They are the same people who say liberals are stupid because after reading both sides of the arguments, we do not agree with their world view.
They are the same people who complain about completely polite postings on "their" thread in order to have them removed, and then say that they had to have been nasty and name calling or they wouldn't have been removed. It's a strange way of behaving.
Much of the problem (not all of it, but much of it) I do blame on the media. The media - the fourth estate's JOB is to report facts and to call out lies. They don't do that anymore, and claim it isn't their job. Apparently their job is now to entertain and appease. It's pitiful.
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Hi Friends,
I'm fit to be tied this afternoon with my PCP's office. One of my medications I have to drive an hour north to get filled. Can't get a local pharmacy to order it for me. Anyway .. there was a glitch when I drove up north yesterday to have it filled. I called the PCP's office to get this straightened out yesterday ... after I made that trip for nothing ... pharmacy wouldn't fill it without another pre-authorization. So I called PCP THREE times today and they finally indicated they "dropped the ball." duh. So I am without this medication until next week.
I've been hearing lots of stories of doctors' offices dropping the ball on their patients lately. I guess they just don't understand that there is a real person attached to the other end of the phone or fax.
It's cool out today. I actually had to shut the windows. Refuse to turn the heater on this early in the year! And at $400 for 100 gallons of heating fuel ... we just might be really cold this winter.
Blue .. love the picture! Some of that might actually help our pain symptoms. And maybe help Enjoyful be able to eat something. She's having a rough time with the Tykerb and Afinitor.
hugs,
Bren
PS ... Tim actually believes that Fox is fair and balanced! We absolutely do not talk politics in this house.
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whoa, bren - and I've been complaining at $3.60 a gallon. Sorry you had the prescription problem - makes me wanna SCREAM.
Stop wasting time reading where you are not welcome, and no one has anything constructive to say. READ James Fallows - RL, great minds - just read it b4 I logged on - so wonderful.
AND Andrew Sullivan is brilliant, as ever - linkie from RL's article is this: http://dish.andrewsullivan.com/2013/09/26/the-gops-demands/
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Sunnyflowers ... have you had to turn on the heat yet? Summer was way too short this year!
hugs,
Bren
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Bren - not yet - it's in the 70's during the day. Strange, sunny for a few days - I usually hold out until late October. Tho last year we had a HUGE snowstorm on Halloween, the later winter months are supposed to be the hardest this year. I use about 500 gallons a year, heat and hot water. But then house is very small, and super well insulated, in cold weather, I wear lotsa layers inside. True New Englander.
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We have natural gas here.
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Bren - I just filled up my tank (for heater). I use kerosene. $3.97 a gallon and a 220 gallon tank. I pretty much used the whole tank every winter, but added a few hundred square feet 3 winters ago. After fixing the insulation that the builders moved and didn't put back(!) and adding some more, I figured out I used 89 gallons of fuel last year (I use electric for my water heater), BUT I was supplementing with electric heaters in my new rooms. I figured I saved about $350 by using electricity too. Then again, I was cold alot
We're getting early cold here in California too. Early fall equals early end to winter!!!
Turns out Carnival Cruz got something else wrong in his little faux filibuster. He took the story of a young college student out of the WSJ and twisted the facts so he got it exactly 180 degrees wrong. The kid was suffering under the burden of his college tuition (which was mentioned 18 times in the article) and his healthcare was mentioned once in the article. It was mentioned once because he was thankful he was still on his parent's plan, thanks to Obamacare!! Cruz used him as the universal example of how Obamacare is hurting college students? Green eggs, stories about college students - not very careful with his stories....
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Sunny - I keep searching for the answer that you might tell me does not exist - over there. Even Ted Cruz has got his "facts" backasswards and would have to, in order to sell what he's selling. When someone represents oneself that way, while having some smarts, it is difficult to believe that they actually believe in their cause. I think Ted Cruz is searching for power and is using demagoguery to get there. No one gets that many things wrong when they actually believe in their cause. Ofcourse, he probably counts on his audience to believe anything he says without having to actually back it up.
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Loved President Obama's presser this afternoon.
All I know are still laughing at how inappropriate "Green Eggs and Ham" was - the perfect story for anyone afraid of new things....SO FUNNY that it was used for the opposite.
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This pretty much explains it all
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I heard that the Sequester, which the GOP loves, has caused Moffit Cancer Center to lay off 20 cancer researchers (from 120 to 100).
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Ya know what frosts my cookies.....every night on the evening news I'm subjected to junior senator Cruz............over and over again. Guess what, the senior senator Cornyn, does not want to shut down the government. I think they gave him a 10 second cameo but Cruz gets constant coverage even when he's being stupid. And none of these so called journalists call him on it.
Ironically when junior senator Lymdon Johnson tried to throw his weight around back in the day, the senior politicians gave him a smack down that lasted for years. -
Was Cruz LISTENING to anything he said? I honestly dont think so. I had to clean out my ears and take 2 aspirin.
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I usually just give my head a shake!
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I just wonder how many online identities one "girl" can have?
We have a big storm blowing in here in Seattle tomorrow. I'm going to a memorial service for a former co-worker who passed away at 51 from uterine cancer. The crappy weather seems appropriate.
I have been so busy and wiped out from work that I haven't posted much lately. I still read almost every day. I love the discussions.
Mary
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Mary - sorry about your friend. Too young.
Just heard about the big storm headed to the PNW. We will get the bottom end of it and only 2-4 inches of rain, but what a change in the weather! I think this is the longest span of sunny beautiful weather (with exception of about 2-3 days) since January. Sad to see it end, but again, we are in one of the worst droughts of my lifetime in California.
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YRMAL, then there's always to blah or not to blah!
Cancer sucks!
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Yes, yes there is, Blue.
We have had the best summer that I can remember here. Sunny and warm for days on end. Fall fell about a week ago.
Mary
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