After Herceptin- Did Side Effects Go Away?
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Just saw a post elsewhere that reminded me.....HEADACHES!! I used to get awful headaches while on Herceptin - for a week or two I would be convinced I had brain mets, then all would be well just in time for another tx.
Headaches went away almost immediately
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Hi
I stopped my herceptin October and unfortunately the back, leg and hip pain has not subsided, infact since stopping the herceptin it has got worse. I started herceptin in October 2010 and noticed in the November, after only 2 infusions, I was having severe lower back and hip pain, which I informed my onocologist about. He was very concerned and I had immed CT and MRI scans, both of which showed degenerative changes to several vertebrae, both acetabular notchs in the hips and also of both femur/tibia heads, worse on the right side.
My onocologist explained this type of side effect was rare but unfortunately did occur. He also explained there wasn't any thing that could be done to prevent or reduce further damage but he did give me the option to stop although he empathised the fact as my chemotherapy had been cut dramatically short, i.e. only 3 out of the scheduled 12 I was taking a big risk, because if there was any cancer remaining it could cause further metastatic disease. Not much of an option really. I knew as a nurse the risk of not continuing with the herceptin and with a family to consider I continued, only now wishing I hadn't. The pain is so severe at times that I can't walk and the limitations it causes makes life unbearable. I take morphine but even this has now stopped having effect. Thankfully I could say this is the only side effect that I have but believe me it's enough.
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After every stand-alone Herceptin infusion I felt like I had too much blood. I can't describe it any better than that. Plus increasingly severe fatigue.
I finished about 4 months ago. The fatigue is dissipating -- although it still reappears randomly for no apparent good reason.
I have pre-existing problems with my hips due to running way too many miles, but the problem is definately more acute. Age or chemo or Herceptin? Who knows? For sure you won't find a doctor to tell you.
The weirdest thing for me is that within a couple of months after finishing Herceptin, my hair and nails started growing. I used the cold caps (they DO work) and was a little worried about what the roots were going to look like after 9 months of not coloring my naturally blond hair. Turned out -- not too bad because my hair didn't grow! I had it colored twice between July and January and all of the sudden I'm having to deal with mousy brown and grey roots after 4 to 5 weeks. In the year from 15 days after the first chemo when all the edges fell out to the end of Herceptin my hair grew between 2 and 3 inches -- not much.
Same thing with my nails. My right thumb and left ring finger lifted almost down to the quick due to, I assume, taxotere. A couple of others lifted half way down but have grown out. I have been wearing acrylics on my horribly thin and splitting nails for 25 years. When I saw the nails pretty much gone, I kept the acrylics on as short as possible just to protect the nail a little bit. Heat and cold were unbearable without them. Right now, those nails are lifted about 20%.
So I had the quadruple whammy of really, really bad nails, many years of acrylics, taxotere and herceptin.
One popped off when I was sanding a piece of furniture last weekend. I had been wondering for some time what was going on under there, and when I took the rest of the acrylics off, I was shocked by how little nail was left -- attaching acrylics to the wafer thin remaining nail was out of the question.
I am using a product called Rejuvocote that you put on every day (day three). My mother-in-law gave it to my daughter to try and while her nails are nothing to write home about, they are better than I have ever seen them. The reviews I have read have been really good except when you have no nail tissue left, it can burn horribly. I didn't have that, but I am very aware of my nails for about thirty minutes after I apply it.
I used to bite my nails BADLY and rip the cuticles to shreds -- my fingers were horrible bleeding stumps with every nail chewed way below the quick. That stopped when I started putting on acrylics so I have been loathe to stop. Except now I am almost 53 and then I was a very high strung law student/baby lawyer.
I'll report back on how it works. If it works on MY nails, it will work on anyone's.
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My docs and the nurses totally downplay the side effects of Herceptin but the side effects are real. It's all on the drig manufacturers site. Sore and achy muscles is a side-effect. I have it too - as well as headaches, back pain, and fatigue. Only 2 life-saving Herceptin treatments to go!
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I'm new to the message board and I'm posting on behalf of my mom.
My mom has been on Herceptin since Oct 2012 and she had no side effects.For the last 2 weeks she has had severe pain in the hip joint.She was scared as we all were but her bone scan was clear.Her doctor is out and we are awaiting his return,however ,is thsi damage done reversible.
Did your doctor put you on some supplements.I am no doctor ,but does taking Collagen c (Type 1 and 3 ) help?
I feel so helpless just seeing this unfold in such a short span of time.
Please post your inputs
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finishing last Herceptin tx next week..just had cholesterol checked.. Total cholesterol, HDL and tryglcerides were fine... LDL elevated.. not too bad but need to bring it down.. Has anyone had elevated LDL with Herceptin? What I have researched is that the "Standard of Ranges" determined by the medical community have changed over the years.. The ranges were lowered... therefore more people can have elevation in their cholesterol.
Look forward to hearing your thoughts...Thank you.
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I am now getting my Herceptin-only treatments every three weeks and have noticed some of the same side effects mentioned here, joint pain, back pain, although my nails are fine and I now have a thick head of curly hair. Here is my question.... Does anyone have pain in the area of their tumor even after it has been removed? I only feel this pain in the week after a treatment. Supposedly my tumor ??? was removed after neoadjuvant treatment and when the pathology report came back the treatment was so successful that no cancer was found in the lumpectomy. So what is this pain? I told my husband it feels like the Herceptin is attacking cancer... but what cancer?
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I finished chemo (taxol, carboplatin) November 2012. Continued to get Herceptin treatments every 3 weeks. Hope to be finished with Herceptin in October. About a month after finishing chemo, I started to experience aching joints in hands, knees, shoulders, & foot pain (top & bottom). Have to flex my feet before getting out of bed in the morning so there won't be as much pain in my feet. toe nails curling and dying back half way. finger nails don't grow much. Nurse tells me that it could be chemo or herceptin or both. Started Arimidex about a month ago. Noticed fatigue in the afternoons.
I also have pain where the lumpectomy was and further up in the breast. Was told that I had edema from radiation. Think that may be the cause of the breast pain.
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Thanks for the reply. I notice that about a week after the Herceptin treatment the pains stop. I guess I can be glad of that. Still, it makes me wonder if the cancer is all gone or if the Herceptin has its work cut out for it.
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I had terrible side affects during and after my Herceptin, which kept me bedridden for 2 years. My side affects were nausea, continual burping, inside of left knee had spasms where I could not lie down or sit down, depression, extreme weight loss, insomnia, fatigue, hot flashes. Drugs to treat some of my issues caused low blood pressure which caused me to faint and gashed my head badly. Also bad concentration. Terrible brittle nails, which have never recovered. The hospital did every test and X-ray they could and could not find anything wrong. They were wonderful with the initial treatments but had no clue about the side affects. They would tell it was not the Herceptin. Clearly I was fine before the treatment. I was made to feel it was in my head. I felt so alone at this time. Finely I had to fight so hard to get well. I had a breast reconstruction, which helped towards my recovery. I am extremely proud of my self as I decided to fight my way to better health step by step. I have now almost finished a diploma in counselling and am going to do another diploma.. My Cancer was diagnosed in 2010 and it was not till August this year that I began to feel like the old me. Sorry about the long post but I am just so thankful I have finally found people who truly understand. I would love to hear from others who may have experienced side affects from Herceptin. It was so hard walking alone and being bedridden. Thanks.
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Wow. And they say there are no side effects. Really? I wish the doctors would come on this site occasionally.
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I just completed my 17 (1 year) sessions of Herceptin. I was also on perjeta but had to be taken off of it because of severe side effects. Feeling like an elephant was on my chest for at least 4 days after treatment. Major runny nose, sinus congestion like having a sinus infection 24/7 and upper respiratory tightness and coughing and wheezing. After stopping the perjeta , I still felt the same , just not worse after receiving herceptin. I told my doctor I refuse to take it anymore. I took the recommended standard of care amount of 1 year. He would keep me on it longer if he wanted. I don't see the reason if I am cancer free. I do a lot of nutrition type supplements that keep my immune system healthy. It has been only 2 weeks since I stopped herceptin and so far I do not feel any different. Im sure it will take time. I do occasionally have the middle back pain. It comes and goes. I also had radiation and I have heard that it can also cause shortness of breath. I feel like my lungs are blown up. I had a chest xray last week and it was clear. I feel like someone who would have asthma. I hope it all goes away because I am a professional singer and this has been awful trying to deal with this.
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I feel so relieved to read these posts.I finished a year of Herceptin about three months ago and have sometimes been feeling like a malingerer when I read so many posts where people have had few side effects. I'm Her2 low (+1) and was lucky (I hope) to be in the Herceptin arm of the NSABP B-47 clinical trial.
I definitely had/have side effects from Herceptin. I will acknowledge that perhaps the chemo SEs are lingering and are more pronounced due to Herceptin, but whatever the cause, I definitely experienced side effects through the end of Herceptin.
Like many of you, my fingernails were (and still are) brittle, tend to peel and crack, and are ridged. My hair started to grow back last year while I was on weekly paclitaxel and Herceptin, but it grew very very slowly, and as I continued on Herceptin as well. It felt more like soft fur than hair! I had a mild headache for a couple of days after each infusion and I continued to have a sluggish digestive system - bloating, heart burn, weirdly convulsive hiccups, constipation, etc. All manageable, but noticeable. I had severe pain in the right side of my back, under the shoulder blade, for about six months - it began when I had Herceptin every three weeks Physical therapy, deep ultrasound, and TENs treatments, with heat, helped a lot. The pain went away about the time I finished treatment. Fatigue was worse toward the end.
At three months post-Herceptin, headaches and spontaneously runny nose are gone, digestive system is much better. hair is growing a bit faster, I'm sleeping much much better (in spite of Arimidex induced hot flashes), and my back is ok - Arimidex induced aches and stiffness, but tolerable so far. I'm still struggling with brain fog and fatigue, but hopefully, those aggravations will eventually subside. And the mild neuropathy in my hands and feet hangs on ... most likely from paclitaxil.
An oncologist, when asked about realistic recovery time, said to count the months from the date of diagnosis to the date of last treatment and use that amount of time as a baseline recovery time. That statement sounds reasonable, for some reason. For me it is sixteen months - so according to that formula, I consider myself an active-as-I-can-be recoverer .... until this time next year! When I think about how I'm feeling on any given day, I try to consider my symptoms from that oncologist's perspective and, if I succeed, I feel more patient with myself and my incremental progress. Baby steps - makes me think of the movie, "What About Bob?' Bill Murray fan here. He reminds me of my best friend in high school, but straying there in not staying 'on topic'.
I hope this information is helpful - even if no one reads it for a long time ....
Peace, Martha
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I like all you have had 17 treatment s of herceptin. I just finished my last treatment yesterday. I thought I might be going crazy until I read these posts. I have headed aches, nausea, joint & muscle pain. Insomnia is the bad I also get muscle cramps really bad. My Dr said it was menopause because of the hot flashes. I always feel better right before my next treatment. So I'm hoping that I start feeling better soon. Hugs to all of you lady's the greats is to know that we bet it.
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I am on my 5th Herceptin Treatment with 12 more to go every 3 weeks. My side effects are muscle and joint aches, neutropenia, anemia, fatigue, chills, constipation, blurriness and peripheral neuropathy (weakness, clumsiness, imbalance, numbness, tingling, etc). My main concern is the peripheral neuropathy and all of the symptoms that go along with it since I also have a rare, neurological disease called Hereditary Spastic Paraplegia with all of those same symptoms. I already had these symptoms, but now they are two-fold. I hope some of it goes away after Herceptin ends because I can't take no more! It has gotten so much worse lately. I fear that it might stay with me for the rest of my life! HSP also has the visual issues, the depression, and the muscle and joint aches. I really hope those extra things go away too. I have been enjoying aqua therapy for my weak and stiff muscles and joints, but I haven't gone in about a year because of this cancer. I hope this neutropenia hurries up and goes away too since I am afraid to go out to get my aqua therapy and such since I might become infected with something. Please tell me something good about when all of these might go away! Even just speculation is fine!
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