I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange
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Thankyou for the birthday wishes girls - it's the 25th here now, so it's all over and I survived. I cooked a really nice meal last night and we had a nice reisling with it.
That story about the wonderful charity of those people was amazing. Great to see that people care so much.
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Happy belated birthday Suzie and Scuttlers!!

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Blue....love the picure....but then there is a cat in it.
Jackie
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I don't think much is new here, other than Wal-Mart seems to be finding out that cutting costs by scaling back on full time workers is not the best answer for them. Still they continue to build stores. They have plans to turn the Wal-Mart here into a super Wal-Mart. I don't like seeing that, but somehow think there is little chance it won't happen. I'd rather almost anything else. I've known a number of people here who have never set foot in the store and never will. I have seen a couple of their other family members there, but it is a pretty rare occasion.
I'd go elsewhere but there isn't much of an elsewhere here anymore.
http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/09/24/2669191/walmart-adds-fulltime-workers/
Jackie
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Libby - that article confirms a theory I've always had about thinking about food crowds out good productive thought - bandwidth shortage. Worrying about money, doing one's taxes (and in conjunction, organizing medical bills, which I'm doing for my 2012 taxes now), does the same thing! Constant poverty and hunger is tough.
Happy Birthday and belated Happy Birthday to Scuttlers and Suzie. Okay, what is a "Scuttler," Birthday girl?
Flipping back and forth between Clinton/Obama talking about the ACA and Clown Cruz wasting time.
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Hmmmm, par for the course.
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Precious pics, blue!
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from Paul Krugman
September 23, 2013, 2:38 pm 161 CommentsAttack of the Killer Hipsters
Jonathan Chait has an excellent survey of the current state of the battle for health reform. Among other things, it drives home the extent to which — despite all the glitches likely in the first few months — this is now being fought on favorable terrain for the reformers.
Never mind the polls showing approval of Obamacare moving one way or the other; they are all being taken in an environment where people are amazingly ignorant about the law, with a large minority believing that it has been repealed. What matters is how the thing works — and that, in turn, depends crucially on sufficient numbers of young, currently uninsured people signing up for the exchanges. Advocates will try to get those people signed up; Republicans will try to convince them not to. So how are the two sides’ chances.
Well, let’s think about who we’re talking about: Young. Currently uninsured, which generally means not very affluent, and also tends to mean nonwhite more than average.
In other words, basically the opposite of the profile of Tea Party backers. Also, by the way, more or less the opposite of midterm voters.
Chait stresses the youth aspect:
Fortunately for Obama, this field of battle favors his side. To pass the law, he needed to win over skeptical senators. To defend it in court, he needed conservative jurists. But identifying and persuading young people is a battle Obama does not expect to lose to Republicans, and in place of the federal outreach funds, the administration is deploying a campaignlike array of weapons: microtargeting, including door-to-door outreach, and all forms of media. (A few weeks ago, Katy Perry tweeted out a link informing her 42 million followers that health care was available beginning October 1.)
Yep, when it comes to reaching hipsters, or young people in general — I know, Katy Perry — Dems have big advantages; all that coastal cultural elite hatred suddenly turns into a big disadvantage for the right.
But that’s not all: there are also channels of influence the party of Fox News simply cannot reach: Spanish-language radio and TV, black churches (which played a big role in 2012), and more.
I don’t know whether anyone thought this out in advance, but the battle of the exchanges is indeed being fought on remarkably favorable ground for the reformers. And I, for one, find the thought of conservatives humiliated by an army of tweeting hipsters remarkably cheering.
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Article I ran across today from NPR. Pretty pathetic, aren't they?
'Popular Science' Shuts Comments, Citing Internet 'Trolls'
by Steve Mullis
September 24, 2013 3:13 PM
PopularScience.com says it will no longer accept comments on new stories because of the negative impact of "trolls and spambots."The online content director for PopularScience.com announced Tuesday that the website will no longer accept comments on new articles, saying a small but vocal minority of "shrill, boorish specimens of the lower Internet phyla" were ruining it for everyone else.We're all familiar with that deep, dark rabbit hole of Internet comment boards. A negative or critical comment sparks a firestorm of debate until the discussion erodes into a cavalcade of insults and personal attacks. Once you finally snap back to reality, you realize you've often strayed so far from the original story that it's often difficult to find your way back.
This distracting nature of online comments is part of the reason Popular Science, the venerable 141-year-old science and technology publication, declared that it would be shutting its comment boards down.
"Comments can be bad for science," writes Suzanne LaBarre, the online content director of Popular Science. She continues:
"We are as committed to fostering lively, intellectual debate as we are to spreading the word of science far and wide. The problem is when trolls and spambots overwhelm the former, diminishing our ability to do the latter."
LaBarre writes that while PopularScience.com is certainly not the only site that attracts these sorts of commenters, and also praises the many thoughtful ones it does get, she says that "even a fractious minority wields enough power to skew a reader's perception of a story, recent research suggests."
And what would a science magazine be without a little research to back up their reasoning for the decision. LaBarre cites a University of Wisconsin, Madison study that, among other things, found that: "Uncivil comments not only polarized readers, but they often changed a participant's interpretation of the news story itself."
Study authors Dominique Brossard and Dietram A. Scheufele wrote about their research in a New York Times op-ed:
"Simply including an ad hominem attack in a reader comment was enough to make study participants think the downside of the reported technology was greater than they'd previously thought."
LaBarre says the often politically motivated debates erode the popular consensus on a wide variety of scientifically validated topics, such as evolution and the origins of climate change. She says that on occasion they will still open the comments section on select articles that "lend themselves to vigorous and intelligent discussion." The windows of communication will also remain open on other platforms like Twitter, Facebook and Google+, and the hope is that readers will still chime in there.
"Don't do it for us. Do it for science," she says.
What are your thoughts? Let us know in the comments — but let's keep it civil.
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Apparently they are everywhere - and they cannot STAND scientific discourse. Pretty sad. Taking us back to the Dark Ages one ad hominem attack at a time.
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Does anybody know when Carnival Cruz is scheduled to STFU? I heard he was only allotted a certain amount of time. Jeez Louise please let it be over, so maybe we can get on with the People's Business.

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Yorkie - check out today's Daily Beast - he's flashing an 800# to raise money - LOVE how the rethuglicans are all in a twist about this...just love it.
BTW- Tom Friedman in todays NY Times is excellent...
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Sunny, great read, thanks! I believe these freaks are self-destructing with their blatant greed and corruption. Cruz is a wannabe McCarthy (who he strongly physically resembles, imo), but that time of fascism has gone and won't easily return, I HOPE!
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I sure hope you are correct Yorkie, because the right seems to be moving closer and closer to fascism, to me.
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Blue ... love the front porch. Wish we could all be sitting there now enjoying the sunshine!
For some reason this year we've skipped right past September weather and gone straight to October.
hugs,
Bren
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GG, I think they're trying, but the US electorate, at least on a national level, is not buying. I can't imagine how Cruz got elected to the Senate in Texas, which, supposedly, is turning blue! I'm sure that state is very good at election rigging, however.
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Bren, summer's almost gone!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DcEAI5p-wUg
and soon we'll be dancing to....
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THANKS TO ALL FOR THE BIRTHDAY WISHES. CAN NOT BELIEVE I HAVE MADE IT TO 60, WOW! I AM OLD! I guess I promised a picture of my "new" car several weeks ago. So here it is. She is a 1951 Packard and we call her Patsy. Loads of fun to drive around. And also a picture of the Scottish festival that we went to last weekend. It was loads of fun. The "bonnie knees" contest reminded me of Blue's grandson! He would have won hands down! AND A VERY HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO SUZIE!

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Kam, Scuttlers is a take on my name. I did not look it up in Wikipedia until several years later and was bored one night. That is when I found out the real meaning. (Guess we should all look up our "internet names". ha ha) Anyway, beware the dirty scuttlers....

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And I am off to harvest some honey! Hope I don't get stung again, it can be very annoying!


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Blue ... thanks for the Doors songs.
Scuttlers ... your new car is very cool.
I'm not too wild about the honey harvesting ... too scary with all those bees.
hugs,
Bren
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Scuttlers - love the car!!! Hope you had a lovely day. I've decided 60 isn't old, but 61 is

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I went to read a little about Cruz. What a strange man is all I can think. He apparently has more guts that that which normally resides in most people's heads. Seems as though that won't get him more than a sore back and feet.
Jackie
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