September 2013 Chemo Group
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Welcome Krizo - I'm in Portland too, and have 2 kids - 7 and 3 :-)
Thank you 4sewwhat, I'll check out that site!
I'm so excited, I found an amazing how-to-tie-a-scarf video that I'm going to use for the wedding this weekend - check it out, this girl is so cute and she explains it really really well:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaPNix3z-Aw
Feeling much more hopeful now :-)
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Good morning all, I am at Sierra Nevada Cancer Center getting my 3rd A/C infusion, yea this will be 3 down 1 to go. After my 1st infusion my shingles flaired up really bad but I have been on a high dose of anti virals and no flair up with 2nd infusion, I took Claritin with 2nd Neulasta shot and it seemed to help bone pain some. My WBC'S dropped both times so I have taken an antibiotic with each round and Dr said to start taking it again in 7 days as my WBC will probably drop agin😛On constipation Mirilax really does work great, I put some in my gatorade today and will take it everyday for at least a week. I hope everyone having or had treatment this week will be blessed with minimal SE'S and peace of mind, body and spiriy😄
Hug's Shary -
Hi Ladies-
My first post-scheduled to start chemo 9/26 dose dense A/C. Question-how is the fatigue? I am a stay at home mom-1 in school, 1 in part time preschool and a baby (turning 1 this month). Right now I have someone here everyday to help me while I'm still recovering from surgery. I just don't know what to expect and I know it's different for everyone-just scared. And I just don't know how much I will need this rotation of family members helping me out. Any words of wisdom or advice from moms with younger kids would help. I'm kinda in freak out mode. Thanks everyone -
Hi all! I'm another from the August group looking in and hoping to share. Just reading a couple of pages and I have seen new things and strategies to help us all get through these tough times.
I have completed 3 treatments of TC with 3 to go. I also get Neupagen shots for a week after to help with WBC. This last treatment the most notable SE is nausea/stomach issues.
One thing I have noticed this month is that I have not had a period. For years I have had them like clockwork about every 25 days. They say this can bring on menopause, but I am only 43. My mom didn't go through it until almost in her 50s. My sister had a baby earlier this year at 41. It may be nothing. I guess it's just another thing to deal with in this thing called cancer treatment.
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Hi BrezzyH, my kids are grown but I know there are lots of ladies with young children that will offer great advise. I just wanted to say take all the help you can get especially the first week, don't get to caught up on the SE'S because everyone is different but we all seem to get the fatigue pretty consistently. So plan to rest and sleep a lot as it helps your body recover. God Bless.
Shary🍂 -
Welcome Breezy! I lurked forever before I got brave enough to post. I have 4 kids, but they are a little older 9,11,14&15(almost 16, yikes!) sometimes I think the older they get the more work they are! You have your hands full though. I agree, take all the help you can get. That was hard for me,but I am learning!
Keep a daily journal with your first treatment. That way you can kind of predict the worst days and know when you will need help most the next time. Best of luck and good wishes for you -
Tanya-- your avatar pic is Beautiful!
I did TCx4 and did not have a period through treatment. I made them do the blood work before to prove to my onc I was not anywhere near menopause. He kept saying that at my age I was probably close anyhow. Nope. At 47 not even close! I gave him a hard time teasing that it wasn't fair I might have to do it twice if my cycles start back up! I also forget which board I saw it on but someone posted that 3 1/2 months after chemo she started back up. Can't say I miss it though! -
Breezy - fatigue is different for everyone. I went in thinking only need 3 days off work of for each cycle (I'm at a computer desk job. But I soon found I didn't have the energy or brain power to do my job effectively. I had to take disability & that is really hard for me to admit. In round 1, I about 5 almost normal days out of 21. There are other ladies on the same regimine who've had similar experience, so it may have to do with the chemo specifics.
Try to take it easy on yourself & get as much help as possible. Setup a Meal Train ( http://www.mealtrain.com ) or Take Them a Meal ( http://www.takethemameal.com ) & email to everyone you know so they can bring you & your family dinner ever night. It's is a lifesaver. It's customizable & private & works brilliantly. -
I am finding that it takes just a couple of more days to get back to "normal" after the chemo. Last time I was tired for 4 days and managed work all the next week but was wiped outf for the evenings. After 7 days I was fine. For the second round it took 7 days for "normal" and I don't think I'll feel 100% again until 10 days. Every one is different and I am going to second the idea of having your friends make some dinners for you. Even with my older children (17 and 21) it is a life saver. My 21 is an Aspie so he's not a lot of help from day-to-day and my 17 year is a senior in high school and I'm trying not to relay too much on her for housework..this is her last year of high school. What timing.
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Wow I'm tired. But I've just spent a lot of time walking in our new Wegmans. Here I am infusion 3 and a very different side effect - diarrhea which is odd since I went to other way. I'm about to have Powerade Zero for the electrolytes. Any other suggestions? Thought I'd have a banana too.
: Love to see a photo of your Chemo Pirate! Hope you get happy reactions when you walk into the chemo bar!
Batcatlady -
Wow I'm tired. But I've just spent a lot of time walking in our new Wegmans. Here I am infusion 3 and a very different side effect - diarrhea which is odd since I went to other way. I'm about to have Powerade Zero for the electrolytes. Any other suggestions? Thought I'd have a banana too.
: Love to see a photo of your Chemo Pirate! Hope you get happy reactions when you walk into the chemo bar!
Batcatlady -
BreezyH, the biggest thing you'll be up against is mental fatigue, honestly. Just like after the surgery, there will be days you can't do everything you want to be able to do, and your little one will be asking you to play with him/her, asking for a book, asking for a glass of milk...and you just can't. If it's an option, plan on having help available for the entire first cycle, then see how you do. For me it was the first 5-7 days that I needed a lot of help, then things got back to normal and while I didn't feel 100%, I could at least function and take care of my kids' needs. But the BIGGEST hurdle was my frustration with myself at not being able to do everything. Be patient during those times, and patient with yourself for being frustrated. Try and break tasks into small pieces - if you would normally clear the dishes, wipe down the table and wash the dishes in the sink (with all of those interruptions like changing a diaper, answering the phone and empying the dishwasher to make room for the dirty dishes), try just clearing the dishes and then taking a rest. If you get interrupted with a task that takes a little out of you, rest before you get back to the original task, and let that be okay. For at least the first week after treatment, things aren't going to get done - the kids may get fewer baths, the dishes may pile up a bit, you'll be wearing slippers everywhere because vacuuming is too much. But once you get a little energy back you can catch up - or if you're lucky enough to have help you can lean on that person :-)
That's my 2 cents after 2 treatments with 2 kids :-P
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Solution - I'm sorry you are having such a rough time, and that you have lost faith in your medical team. I can't say that I am completely happy with my oncologist, but I'm not UNhappy enough to find someone else at this point.
Cutiekool - I'm sorry that you're still having a lot of anxiety. Mine was through the roof in between diagnosis and when my treatment started, but since then I've been better. I also asked my dr for something to help with that, so maybe that's why I've been better. LOLRayna - Yay for your last one next week! I can't wait to be able to say that!!!mankatostate - I think a cancer diagnosis causes immediate insomnia! I have never had problems sleeping, ever, and since d-day, my sleep has been all messed up. Most of that was from stress and anxiety, and now of course all of the different meds in my system. I think I celebrate when I have a full night's sleep (or close to it!).Babyruth - Hope you had an easy time at the bar, and that the next few days bring few SEs for you!vintagegal - That stinks that you are still in the holding pattern! The waiting is the worst. I hope you get some answers and a plan in place soon! I'm sure you're just ready to get this show on the road.38tooyoung - I do still have my hair, but I'm using cold caps. I thought maybe you were too, since you still have your hair! Mine is starting to shed quite a bit, but I'm hanging on to every one as long as I can. LOLLisaSP - Hope you're still doing ok after Monday.KBeee - That's so sweet about your shaving party. I'm glad it went well and was fun instead of traumatic.JellyK - Good luck on finding something that will work for the wedding. I'm sure you will, and will have a GREAT time!krizo - We have very similar stories. I am younger than you (40), but found my lump this summer, (have 2 lumps & lymph involvement on the left side) have kids close in age (mine are 11 and 7). We're having the same chemo, too... I had my 2nd AC last week. Stage III is depressing, but I try not to think about it. I know people who have beaten stage IV, so you never know! I hope you are able to find some local support. I don't live near my family (I'm in TX, my parents are in NY) but I've lived here for a dozen years so I have some really good friends.Shary - Good luck with #3. Yay - only one more to go!!!!!!!!!Breezy - I would say take all the help you can get! I'm a stay-at-home mom but my kids are both in school, so that helps. I have had 2 AC treatments so far, and my fatigue isn't too bad after the first few days (the day after chemo is the worst for me), but my overall energy level is way lower than it normally is. Just walking to the mailbox makes me out of breath!! My mom is here this week and just having her do the dishes, laundry and get the kids in bed each night so I can sit on the couch is a huge help! Everyone is different, though. I know some who were sick every day, and some who never missed a day of work!
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lighthouselady- No I am not using the cold caps! I researced them and wanted to, but didn't go through with it. My hair is thinning and definitly shedding but I manage it my conditioning really good and leaving in a bun ponytail (i had shoulderlength hair to start) I am sure it wont last but I am thrilled I have gotten this far into treatment and still look the same/ I hear the anticipation is the worst, and I am starting to sleep less sound, worrying about moving around to much and losing my hair. The way I keep looking at it, is the faster it comes out the quicker to grow back. I have beautiful youthful wig with awesome highlights ready for when I need it. I am sure I wont be the 1 in a million that doesn't lose their hair:)
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Shalimar..I am getting treatment at Good Samaritan in Corvallis. The ambulatory infusion center is all private rooms, I hear many chemo centers are 'lounge like' with 20 to 30 patients in one area. I had an amazing breast surgeon by the name of Dr. Faddis, he did an awesome job with my lumpectomy. My oncologist although nice enough and thorough...is not as awesome. If anything he treats me like any other patient and i feel like he's just reading a text book when he talks (down) to me. I did had the opportunity to 2nd consult with Dr. Steven Chui at OHSU before I started chemo and would have LOVED to switch to him as my oncologist (he is taking new patients and only treats breast cancer) but the drive to Portland would have been horrible. As it is we drive 20 miles one way to Corvallis, two times during Tx weeks (neulasta shot the day after) and one time during my off week for oncology follow up. Chui spoke my 'language' as a fellow athlete and would have been a better driving force for my mentality throughout this....speaking of which.
I learned today that feeling 100% myself and having enough red blood cells and hemoglobin for running are NOT related! Went out running for 3.7 miles and came back walking, dizzy, lungs burning and pale. My counts are definitely dropping. -
Lighthouse, thank you I am so glad to have # 3 just about done😄I hope your SE'S are not to bad and congrats you are 1/2 way done with A/C. Do you go to Taxotere or Taxol after A/C?
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My pink pirate look was a hit with the nurses today
but the center was a lot less crowded than last time, liked that, I got a recliner by the wall w/a smidge more space.
When I got home I found that a hat I ordered had arrive - it's an adorable beret from Etsy https://www.etsy.com/transaction/150245356?ref=fb2_tnx_image
The seller also donates hats to women going thru chemo, so I mentioned that I was getting this bec. I lost my hair. She sent an extra hat, a funky scarf thing in gorgeous material. Really sweet! So I'd recommend her shop -
Nichole, kudos to you for running, wow. That's great.
That would be a drive. I know some people have to travel further, but we don't need to add more stress than necessary.
I tried to get in to see Dr. Chui but he was booked out quite a bit. I did see Dr. Kemmer there for 2nd opinion and she corroborated everything my onc was doing, so that made me feel better.
My infusion center does have a couple private rooms, but the outer one only has 8 chairs and I feel comfortable with that. People have all been really nice (well last time there was quite the eccentric lady, told everyone much more than we needed to know, LOL). So far I've gotten the corner chair which has the most privacy and room. So I aim for that one...
BCL: Etsy does have some really cute hats. Bonus on the extra one!
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Brezzy I am sorry that you are having to grow thru this with such young kids! I do think you'll have to do the "un-Minnesotan" thing (I see you are from Minnesota too) and ask for help! My youngest is 13 (I also have a 16 and 18 year old). My 13 yr old should be able to do things yet he still wants to be "mothered". My husband travels midweek and so he is having to learn it's ok to eat cereal or a sandwich for dinner when i just can't make him his. I would ask for as much help as people are willing to give. Don't worry about keeping up the house, who can when they have young kids anyways. Enjoy the moments you feel good spending as much time as you can with them. So are you up by the cities?
Pam- how are they treating you up in Duluth? That is a pretty area is it a long drive for you to get to treatment?
Wing-my oldest is an Aspie too...well he's officially a PDD-NOS but basically an Aspie so I "get" the not much help thing...but surprisingly he's been more helpful than I thought he would be. I too have days I need all the help i can get when my husband is out of town.
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Hi ladies, start TCH on the 30th and I now have a cold and took Claritin, but I've notice others are taking it during treatments, can I ask what SE Claritin wards off? I must have missed a post. I'm nervous about my first treatment and going to buy things off the shopping list provided but Claritin wasn't on it? I don't know if anyone can be ready but I'm trying to be ready for whatever comes my way
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Hi Ladies- anyone dealt with unwanted help? My mom is coming out and she was really helpful during my surgeries I want her help BUT now my mother-in-law wants to come out too to help after my 1st treatment but honestly I don't feel comfortable with my mother in law. Thankful my kids are 21 & 18 and in college. I don't want to seem ungrateful and appreciate that my mother in law wants to come out to help but she has only come to visit us 5 times and I've been married 22yrs and when she has come out my husband acts as if the "queen" is coming and I don't want that stress. I've voiced my concerns to my husband but last night AGAIN my husband is asking me when can his mom come out. I wanted to scream.
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Hi ML40,
The Claritin can help ward off the bone pain that the Neulasta shot (day after chemo) can cause. I did TC and did not need the shot. They checked everything after the first round and said I would get it with the other treatments if my counts didn't come back on their own or if I got sick. I got lucky! My onc told me if you are over 60 or are doing dose dense with anthracyclines, then he automatically gives it.
Waiting for that first treatment is the worst because our imaginations run wild! In reality it is not as bad. I found TC pretty easy, considering. I didn't have the H with it so I can't speak to that. ( my C was cytoxan though)
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Hello ladies i have not posted in about a week but i have been trying to read the posts each day when i can summon some energy. i had my 1st A/C treatment on 9/12. I did ok except for the nausea that followed on about day 3. I had the neulasta shot on the 13th which gave me a few aches that i was able to manage with this Aleve trial that they have me on. I started back to work on Sept 16 (desk job) and ladies most of the day i just want to lay on the desk and sleep. Do anyone have any suggestions as to combating this lack of taste buds or desire to even eat. Im due for my next A/C on 9/26 and could really use some tips on what to do for this one.
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This is a "recipe" to help and hopefully prevent the mouth stuff. I found it in a book about how to thrive through chemo. Just check with your docs first! With the TC the mouth was the worst with the first treatment and got less and less with the following treatments. Hope it is the same for all the cocktails!
Glutamine Powder 10 grams in 8-12 ounces juice or Gatorade
(I used pills until I could order powder)
B6 100mg twice a day
Lysine 500mg twice a day
Start two days before treatment. I just did it most days. Just ask the doc first!
Also suck on ice or Popsicles and some recommend doing a slush and spit with baking soda and salt water every once in a while when the infusion is still running. I think it is 1/2 teaspoon each to a cup of water, but don't quote that. I will try to find it again for sure.
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ML40--good luck with the Mother in Law thing. I feel for you. I don't have a mother in law but my own mother makes up! So far I have just seen parents a,few times but no visits. Yesterday when my husband called to tell her I was out of surgey all she asked was " did they get them level?"
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Thanks light house lady,
The cancer center navigator called today. She asked why I decided against the re-incision surgery. I told her I didn't make that decision. She said "Oh it was made for you?" Geesh I called her last week to find out why I never heard from her in a months time & know she attended the tumor board meeting so she should have remembered!
Anyway, I think she got my vibes & knew I was chomping at the bit, & knows they haven't been doing things in a timely manner. I got my appointment changed to tomorrow morning with the oncologist (finally) & she is trying to get me in for the infusion nurse visit.
Yes I can be a bit impatient! LOL
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Hi ML40
we will be starting our first treatment about the same time. Hope to keep in touch!
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Mankatostate-
I'm in the cities and luckily only about 10 mins from my oncology office! So far I've had help everyday since surgery and a friend set up a meal site for us.
I am just having a hard time letting so many people help me
And I just got the crappy news that I haven't healed the way my surgeons hoped from the double mastectomy so I'll need more surgery but they hope this won't effect chemo start date-hopefully day surgery-in & out.
This whole cancer thing is just sh*tty and exhausting. I'm 33 and I feel like I shouldn't be this tired-rant over -
Shalimar: What are you doing for chemo? How has it affected you as far as neuropathy? Your transcription? Are you still posting on the August board? (Just so I know where to go to find people!) I finish AC next Wednesday and start Taxol 10/09.
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gavinsgrandma - I am going to have Taxol, but it's still up for debate whether it will be 12 weekly or dose dense.
batcatlady - that's awesome about the seller from Etsy. What a great thing they do! How funny about the pirate gear - I bet the chemo nurses loved it. I started talking to my kids as a pirate when they came home from school and they looked at me like I was nuts. LOLML40 - I haven't read if there were any responses, but wanted to let you know that Claritin is suggested if you have to have Neulasta shots. I get the shot the day after my chemo, and I take Claritin that day & the next five or so. It's supposed to help with the bone pain you can get with Neulasta, and I guess it works for me, because i haven't had one second of bone pain! I don't have any advice really about your mother-in-law, only that I'm sorry you're in this position. One thing I've learned on this journey so far, though, is that it's about YOU! Make your husband understand that you are not comfortable with her coming and it will be more stress on YOU, which you do not need at this point. Maybe suggest her coming after you finish chemo as kind of a celebration instead?hydavis - My mouth was HORRIBLE after my first treatment, but much better this second time. I chewed on crushed ice during the entire infusion... I'm not sure if that made the difference. My taste buds are still on strike, especially with beverages, but I don't have the overall bad taste. On the eating, I would say just keep trying things until you find something that tastes good.
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