Leg Swelling
Has anyone had LE in a leg? My right leg is 1-1/2" larger than my left (opposite side of lumpectomy). It feels tight at night and aches behind my knee. Have been on Anastrozole for about 6 weeks. My mother had severe lymphdema disease and one of her legs was three times the size of the other. It appeared when she was about 45 years old. I have appointment with internist in a week and have requested appt from my oncologist to see if SE from AI. Advice is always appreciated.
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Sandylyn, there's a genetic component to LE, and unless your mother had some kind of surgery or trauma to her leg or groin area, it's likely her LE was primary, i.e. a compromised lymphatic system from birth. It's not unusual for primary LE to remain silent for decades. Also, recent research suggests that LE is a systematic disease, and even those of us with secondary LE (i.e. after surgery or trauma that damages the lymphatic system in one area of the body) have some disfunction elsewhere, and I think some women in our forum here have experienced leg swelling after BC treatment, although it's not very common.
Have you discovered this wonderful website? http://www.lymphedemapeople.com/articles.htm
You'll find lots of accurate information about LE, and some of the articles on the site might give some focus to the discussion with your internist.
So sorry you're dealing with this. I know nothing about AI side effects, but with luck, that's the explanation and there will be some strategies to deal with it, and it's temporary. But to evaluate (and hopefully rule out!) the possibility of primary or secondary LE, I hope your MD will listen and refer you to a qualified LE therapist for evaluation.
Carol
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Leg swelling can be a SE of Arimidex. I have LE in my right arm both legs, right trunk and now my neck.
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I just came to this forum to learn about leg swelling, mine seems to be more swollen since I have been diagnosed with LE in my arm. I shake my head in disbelief to even consider this is possible but the measurements don't lie.
Since discovering this leg swelling (which my doctor denies)...I have met 2 other women who have had breast lymph nodes removed and ended up with leg LE
Anyone else? Do we need to take leg precautions?
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I think some of us are just more prone to develop it. My oncology office said no..you don't get it in your neck. Well when I went in to have it checked after my FP sent me to them, I saw a different NP who said LE. I was tickled when she brought my normal NP in to see it and she too had to agree it looks like LE. She was the one who said no.
Frankly it all makes sense to me because my surgeon only took 5 nodes because the rest had turned to mush from the chemo...his exact words.
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Crystal, I developed LE in my right leg this last year. There's some evidence from research in the UK that those of us who develop LE after surgery probably do so because we don't have a very robust lymph system to begin with. And that once we have LE in one limb, the entire system does worse at lymph transport.
So maybe it makes some sense, but it sure is discouraging.
Make sure it's not from some other cause (like a blood clot), and then get help from your LE therapist. I did a full course (four weeks) with the therapist (except we didn't wrap it because I caught it really early, so just the compression stocking worked fine between MLD sessions). I wear a knee-high stocking on my right leg during the day, and a Solaris leg garment at night, and I learned the leg self-MLD. It all works well, but I have to be careful not to push fluid up above my waist.
LE--blah!
Gentle hugs,
Binney -
I have a friend who has had to deal with leg LE for more than twenty years after surgery for melanoma. She's now being treated for BC and pushing really, really hard at her care team to find ways to minimize her risk for LE a second time around. Anyway, she has found that elevating the foot of her bed by a few inches has made a huge difference in how her leg behaves. I think she uses some kind of a big foam wedge under the mattress, and therefore her DH is elevating his feet, too. It might be something to try using pillows for a few nights, to see if it makes a difference.
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Crystal, in terms of LE leg precautions, the National Lymphedma Network recommends the following:
"Avoid prolonged standing, sitting or crossing legs to reduce stagnation of fluid in the dependent extremity." (Interpretation: Alternate standing and sitting throughout the day, and don't cross your legs when you're sitting or your leg may swell.)
"Wear proper, well-fitting footwear and hosiery." (Interpretation: Make sure your shoes and socks or stockings fit you well. "Proper" sounds more like Emily Post, so maybe they mean not to wear white shoes after Labor Day--who knows?! Why can't these people just speak English?!
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"Support the at-risk limb with a compression garment for strenuous activity except in patients with open wounds or with poor circulation in the at-risk limb." (Interpetation: This refers to risk-reduction rather than treatment of actual LE, but the "strenuous activity" could certainly be extended to include travel as well. Just like with our arms, those are the things to be especially careful of.)
And I'd add, same as arms:
Be careful about cuts, scratches, insect bites and burns--wash promptly and use topical antibiotic, and do extra self-mld as necessary.
Exercise is helpful--work up GRADUALLY to any new leg exercises, even walking, running, jogging.
Lotion well to keep skin on leg and foot moist and free of cracks.
Keep your toenails trimmed (it'll save on compression stockings too!
) and use the same precautions for pedicures that we do for manicures.
Don't run around barefoot. (Be especially careful at the beach.)
Check your feet nightly for any chafing or dry skin.
Hope some of that helps. We all go to such lengths to take good care of ourselves, we should earn some sort of reward--I suggest chocolate.
Be well!
Binney -
Thanks Carol. I will try that tonight with a pillow under the mattress. My compression knee highs are warn out and needed replacing in July. My Pt wanted to treat me again before ordering new one. Our household changed two weeks ago and I have care of another child who is home schooled. It will be impossible to function wrapped so she agreed to ordering something similar to the ready wraps for the calfs until I can come back in. It's half the cost of what I was getting and my fitter thought it would be a good solution since I could sleep in it too. Sign me exhausted...but I have a new respect for foster parents.
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Oh, and just to add to Carol's suggestion, I do elevate my leg on a pillow at night. But I use a night compression vest and sleeves. If you elevate your leg, use compression on whatever is affected by LE above the waist, because you don't want to encourage lymph to travel northward during the night.
Aaaugh!! How did our lives get so complicated?!!
Hugs all,Binney -
Oh no Binney. I don't have night time compression but for the arm. Might just try a small thin pillow. My legs compressions just don't stay up so I quit wearing them. I was gluing them on but yet again I broke out form the glue after a few weeks of using it.
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Thank you, Binney. I always worry about passing along information that's second hand to me. It's so hard to be accurate when almost by definition, knowledge of LE is tailored to our own experiences. I'm so very grateful that you are here to share your own considerable knowledge, and I hope you will never, ever hesitate to post a correction if I get something wrong, or leave out something important.
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