I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • lassie11
    lassie11 Member Posts: 1,500
    edited September 2013

    Yes - you just have to ask to get the birthday greetings from the Prime Minister and the Premier (and the MP and MPP), which we did for my Dad on his 90th and 95th birthdays. You have to ask and provide evidence of the birth date to get the letter from the Queen on the 100th birthday. Dad is 98 now and we will see if he makes it long enough to get a letter from the Queen. She has to last that long too - I don't think he'd be as pleased to get a letter from Charles.

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited September 2013

    Hee hee - he doesn't like Prince Charles??  A form letter, I suppose.  Thanks lassie for the info.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2013

    Kam....you are right about the chewing part....I had forgotten that.  I think I need the extra amts of green foods enough though that I'll just have to have a spoon of p-nut butter for some good protein to stabilize the sugar. Hope that works.

    Jackie

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2013

    Just a thought:

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2013
  • GatorGal
    GatorGal Member Posts: 2,550
    edited September 2013

    RL, love the book facts poster. Sad, but probably true!



    IllinoisLady, I got a kick out of the new Medicare program.



    So, do these impeach Obama nuts think Biden will be different? Or is it just that they want a white president? Sometimes I'm embarrassed to be an American ....



    On the other hand, we have made progress towards MLK's dream and I'm sure we all see evidence of this everyday. Today I took my grandson to a local park/playground. He was one of 3 white children there and happily played with Hispanic, African American and mixed race kids for several hours. He didn't notice that he was in the minority, he just had fun playing with other kids!

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2013

    To impeach...you need an impeachable offense.  I think Paul ( Rand ) that is got way ahead of himself.....as have some others.  I also think it would not be long and Biden would be a 'thorn' as well, just a lighter version. 

    We could take such a powerful lesson from young kids who are such naturals in loving, caring, behaviors.  Don't we take so much away from them when we teach them racism and prejudice of all kinds.  How sad what we teach them to become ---  and then we go to worship somewhere feeling so great.  As Biden would say malarkey. 

    Jackie

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2013
  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
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  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited September 2013
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2013

    what Kam said. " Tired of being the world's police."  and I'll add, hypocritical about it too.  Anyone around during the Viet Nam war?  Remember that classic picture of a little Vietnamese girl running toward the camera, no clothes, on fire.  Napalm. Wonder who dropped those bombs on innocent people involved in a civil war. And how about Agent Orange. What country used that?  And how about looking 'the other way' when Saddam Hussein used chemical weapons ( wonder who supplied them?) on Iranian's coming across the border to fight. Expect most know saddam hussein was a "friend of the USA" then, sunni, anti Iran, support of Saudi's - we can go on, and on...

    My spelling isn't good, but I think it's called hypocrisy.  There is a tragic, tragic civil war going on in Syria.  The country created by WESTERN governments at the end of WWI.  "When will we ever learn, oh when will we ever learn"...can still hear the words & the tune... a tragedy...

    Can the western world learn to live with another Caliphate - could there even be one the way the people of the various sects of the religion are killing each other?  Tragedy.  We all need a good history lesson, IMHO.

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited September 2013

    I agree Sunny!

    Parrot Flower......

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited September 2013

    Where is the Arab League in all of this?  The situation is much more of a threat to the nations surrounding Syria than it is to the security of the United States. We don’t even understand who the rebels are.  Is it possible that we could facilitate the imposition of a new regime worse than the current one?   

    We used to have a major war every 50 years, then every 20 years, and now, we are in a state of perpetual war at a time when the real threats to our nation are internal. Our own infrastructure is crumbling and our air and water is becoming increasingly polluted and we are facing major disruptions of our coastal cities and ports due to climate change.  We need to pay attention to our own problems before we go messing about with those of other nations.

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited September 2013

    I'm so sick of Middle East military adventures, especially when there is not one real shred of evidence that our national security is at risk. What happened to the Syrians is terrible, but we should handle issues like this with diplomacy and sanctions, NOT bombs! Arrrrrgh!!

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited September 2013

    From yesterday's Globe & Mail:

    Arab states on Sunday urged the international community to take action against the Syrian government over a chemical gas attack that killed hundreds of civilians.

    The final resolution passed by an Arab League meeting in Cairo urged the United Nations and international community to “take the deterrent and necessary measures against the culprits of this crime that the Syrian regime bears responsibility for.”

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited September 2013

    Sunny -- That little Vietnamese girl and her little brother eventually emigrated to Canada, and she lives in Toronto and speaks to various groups about the horrors of war.

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited September 2013

    c4c,

    That's some good news but the USA should not be the one to "discipline" the Assad regime.  Let the Arab League drop the bombs or the UN.  I am tired of the USA being the bad cop.

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited September 2013

    notself -- I agree, but I've been reading about the monetary influence from AIPAC to U.S. Senators' campaign coffers.......and now that the U.S. is becoming more and more self-sufficient oil-wise, I expect that influence to only increase.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited September 2013

    c4c, thank ou for answering notself's question re: Arab League.  Such a good question - why aren't THEY doing what they want the USA to do?  The per capita income of the members of the Arab League have got to be the highest in the world.

    So frustrating to watch one's own government trying to talk the public into YET another war.  Remember b4 the First Gulf during Bush I, when a "Kuwaiti woman" testified b4 Congress about the Iraqi "invaders" taking infants out of incubators in hospitals in Kuwait - and LO & BEHOLD, what a surprise, that woman who was testifying was NOT in Kuwait during the time in question, AND, AND, AND was a member of the family of the Kuwaiti Ambassador to the USA, and lived in Washington DC.

    Fool me once, and then "Weapons of Mass Destruction", Condileeza Rice warning of "mushroom clouds", well, that was much worse than "FOOL ME TWICE" - and it goes on, and on, and on, and on, and women & children die and die....tragic.

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited September 2013

    AIPAC - ugh.  I hate that lobby.

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited September 2013

    Sunny - totally agree with what you said above. Actually - we should also remember Hiroshima - I know the Japanese actually did attack the US, but nuclear bombs were a bit harsh in retaliation weren't they? Talk about weapons of mass destruction. I think we should all stay out of it. BTW - I thought the US had been arming the rebels - not a good idea.

  • lassie11
    lassie11 Member Posts: 1,500
    edited September 2013

    My question is if the US (or anyone else) decides to bomb something in Syria, how do they decide what to bomb and how do they know it is going to make things better rather than worse? 

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited September 2013

    Am I understanding what is going on right now? It seems that the republicans want to deny authorization for any action because it doesn't go far enough? They want more action to be taken?



    I can certainly understand why Americans are war weary. Soon their defences will be so exhausted that the mere act of self defence will be impossible. And don't think the enemies are not keenly aware of that!

  • GlobalGirlyGirl
    GlobalGirlyGirl Member Posts: 269
    edited September 2013

    This whole Syria thing is one big mess. It's horrendous that Assad did that to his own people. Just like SunflowersMA said - we didn't do anything (right away) when Saddam Hussein gassed the Kurds. crazy4carrot's cartoon just nailed it. Some of the atrocities that are happening in Africa are worse (IMO) than what Assad did. And it's happening daily.

    Sooner rather than later, we should turn in our badge as world police.  It's neither our place nor our responsibility.

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited September 2013

    I firmly believe that nations can only become true free democracies when enough of its people rise up against the oppressors. Other nations cannot impose that freedom on them...as history has repeatedly shown.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited September 2013

    I'm in agreement......we should do a lot more to take care of ourselves and put others on notice that they will have to likewise.  War makes money....but nearly always for the wrong people....those who already have plenty. 

    Not to get too far off the subject but ran across this article just now.  Hope I don't get all the weird lines in it.

    Georgia governor gets paid through secret PAC to obstruct Obamacare






     




    By David Ferguson
    Tuesday, September 3, 2013 10:01 EDT

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    Georgia Gov. Nathan Deal (R)’s family and business partner have been receiving payments from a secret Political Action Committee called Real PAC. Half a million dollars of the money donated to the PAC has come from corporate health care interests which — like the governor and Georgia state Insurance Commissioner Ralph Hudgens — oppose the implementation of the Affordable Care Act (ACA), also known as “Obamacare.”

    According to investigative reporter Jim Walls of Atlanta Unfiltered, the PAC hasn’t filed taxes or the required financial disclosures in two years, and the information it did file for 2011 was incorrect.

    Contributors to Real PAC include Aetna, Humana, Blue Cross, United Health care and other interests that want to keep health insurance premiums and other costs as high as possible. Bryan Long of activist group Better Georgia told Raw Story that the list of donors shows who Gov. Deal really works for.

     



    “He goes out and he does their bidding,” Long said, “He’s working for them instead of working for the 650,000 Georgians who don’t have insurance at all or access to the Medicaid expansion.”

    “What’s remarkable about this isn’t that there’s money in politics,” he continued. “We all know there’s money in politics. He knew that this was so wrong that he didn’t want to tell anyone. He tried to keep it a secret for two years.”

    Deal’s office made financial records publicly available on the Friday before Labor Day weekend, hoping, Long said, that no one would pay attention. The AP reported Friday that among its outgoing costs, the PAC “paid $30,000 to Southern Magnolia Capital, a fundraising firm founded by Deal’s daughter-in-law, Denise Deal. It also paid Ken Cronan, who co-owned a Gainesville salvage yard with Deal, more than $10,000 in December for pilot and plane expenses.”

    All of the companies that pay into the PAC are doing business with the state of Georgia on some level. The PAC’s treasurer, former state ethics chairman Rick Thompson, protested that the PAC money is not just for Deal’s re-election, but for “Republican causes.”

    Last week, state insurance commissioner Ralph Hudgens was caught on tape boasting to a crowd of supporters that his office is deliberately obstructing the implementation of the Affordable Care Act. As Floyd County Republicans called out “Amen!” and applauded, Hudgens said that his office is interfering with the certification of the ACA’s insurance policy “navigators,” individuals hired to help consumers choose policies on the open market.

    “Let me tell you what we’re doing (about Obamacare),” he said. “Everything in our power to be an obstructionist.”

     

    Seems like he has been taking lessons from Congress.....shame on him.  If I live to be a hundred......I'll never TOTALLY understand greed.  I mean....bad stuff runs downhill.....and one way or other, sooner or later, it is going to end up somewhere that it will HURT you.  Of course, maybe ---- like some of our sports figures, some of these yo-yo's start to feel invincible.......and funds, aren't they always great.  At some point you have to look at you in the mirror and wonder --- is that really a nice guy there or someone who sold out.  Well, better him than me......but the day will come and  the fiddler will be there to be paid.  Good Luck to this guy. 

    Jackie

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
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    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
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    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
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  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited September 2013

    No doubt the sad victims of Republican controlled-states will blame the President for the raise in their rates. But actually, Republicans are about to raise rates by 8-10% on their constituents by rejecting a key part of ObamaCare.

    The Dallas Morning News (subscriber only link) reported, “Study Says Texas Premiums Will Rise With Medicaid Expansion Opposition”:

    Texas’ refusal to expand Medicaid will cause private health insurance premiums to rise by an average of 9.3 percent for people who buy their own coverage, a new study finds. GOP lawmakers, strongly encouraged by Gov. Rick Perry, decided not to add poor adults to Medicaid’s rolls. That means about 1.3 million fewer Texans will have health coverage by 2016 than if the federal Affordable Care Act were fully implemented in the state, according to the study by the nonprofit research organization Rand Corp.

     

     

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