I have ER+ Breast cancer and I am 16 weeks pregnant:Please help
My name is Benny, I am 43 yrs old. I first noticed nipple retraction and inversion of my right breast during the breastfeeding of my second daughter around September 2011. I reported to my O & G and after looking at it he said it was nipple inversion. He suggested that I may need to get nipple retractor device and he also advised me to be pulling out the nipple from time to time. Since I have reported to a doctor, my mind was off the incidence. Infarct breast milk gradually stopped coming out from the right breast. My daughter only sucked the left breast until she stopped breast-feeding. However, with time around the tip of my right breast appeared to have small lump, however, I thought the milk gland had congealed and hence the lump. I could remember I went to my O & G and in his usual way he dismissed my fear. However in the month of may 2013, I became pregnant. Infarct, my last menstrual period was on 4th may 2013. I now decided to change my O&G and therefore I registered under another O&G. he also performed preliminary physical examination. I drew his attention to the breast lump, he looked at it and again in the doctor’s manner did not comment badly on it. i told him that in my second pregnancy, my former O&G placed on xx injection to stabilize the implantation of the fetus. So this second O&G also decided to give similar injections. I stated the injection on 1st June 2013 and had my 5th doze on first week of july 2013. However, as I was not comfortable with the nature of my right breast, I voluntarily decided to go for breast screening in a local center. It was there that the doctor at the center referred me to a teaching hospital for proper evaluation.
At the teaching hospital, I consulted a surgeon. When the doctor saw the lump, he shouted and referred me immediately for histological evaluation. Fine needle aspiration was done in which some samples of my breast tissue was taken for histology and EP/ER/HER2. The histology result came out a week after with bad news. I was diagnosed of invasive ductal carcinoma, classic variant with the following histological report:
- Microscopic examination: Sections show infiltrative malignant epithelial proliferation within the breast parenchyma. The constituent cells are arranged in wide solid islands, broad anastomosing trabeculae, thin cords, glandular structures and individual infiltrating cells. The cells have irregular hyperchromic nuclei. The tumors show moderate tumor necrosis. There is moderate stromal fibrosis and mild chronic inflammatory infiltrate in response to the invading tumor cells. The tumor is seen invading the skeletal muscle (pectoralis) and the base of the biopsy.
- Diagnosis:
I. Breast: invasive ductal carcinoma, classic variant
II. TNM staging: Pt4pNxpMx
- Pathologist’s recommendation: Urgent mastectomy
I was then referred to oncology unit and also to ante-natal clinic for evaluations. Both clinics requested me to do series of blood tests, 2-D Echo, etc. The oncologist decided to wait until my 14 weeks gestation age before he would commence treatment. After 14 weeks I was started on chemo on 9th August, 2013 with the following Rx:
- CHEMO> IV: Cyclophosphamide 1160 mg and IV: Adriamycin 115mg
- PREMED> IV: Ondasteron 10mg, IV: Dexamethasone 8mg and IV: Plasil 8mg
- POSTMED: Tabs: Dexamethasone (5 days), Tabs: plasil (5days), tabs: Fesolate and Vit C (2wks)
On 15th August 2013 the EP/ER/HER2 result came out with the following result:
- Esterogen Result (POSITIVE): Intensity of staining (2), % of positive tumor cells (3), Quick score (5)
- Progesterone result: Negative
- Her-2: Negative
I am due for the next chemo on 30th August 2013. BUT I AM CONFUSED! I called the oncologist about his opinion on ER+ result in a pregnancy of 16wks. He said he might introduce TAMOXIFEN, but he said he want to send the specimen block to another laboratory for a second opinion lab test. The big question is:
- Do we have to terminate the pregnancy at this stage since due to ER+ status?
- If Taxomofen will be used, is it safe for the baby?
- What other options do we have?
Please I need you help and advice here and urgently too. Also if you can link me to any person who have similar experience I will be very grateful.
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I'm so sorry you're going through. I can't speak from personal experience, but I remember that others have posted here in the past. Not sure if you know, but this website has a search function. If you're on the full website, it's one of the blue buttons on the left; if you're on a mobile device, it's a link at the bottom. But if it was me, I would get a second (or even third) opinion before taking any other Tx. For the most unbiased decision, I would seek out a difference cancer Tx center. If you have a cancer support center nearby, they may have a referral. I'll be thinking of you and sensing warm wishes.
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Benny, i am sorry. I do not have a lot of info to pass on to your case because it sounds very complicated due to the pregnancy and I am not a doctor. I would recommend that you try to get a second opinion as soon as possible. Are you in the US? Here in the US, it is recommended to go to an NCI designated cancer center. Here is a list: http://www.cancer.gov/researchandfunding/extramural/cancercenters/find-a-cancer-center.
Also, go to this website: http://www.hopkinsbreastcenter.org/services/ask_expert/. Here you can get advise from an expert on your specific case and what to do.
I think you definitely need a second opinion so that you can ask questions to another doctor to check if you are following an appropriate treatment plan.
Below I pasted some info from cancer.org on treating pregnant women with breast cancer. I am sorry you have to go through this at what is supposed to be the happiest time of your life. Will keep you in my thoughts and wishing that you can find a good treatment plan. Best wishes- CHAR
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Breast cancer treatment during pregnancy
If breast cancer is found during pregnancy, the type and timing of treatment depends on many things, such as:
- The size of the tumor
- Where the tumor is
- Whether and how far the cancer has spread
- How far along the pregnancy is
- What the woman prefers
Treating a pregnant woman with breast cancer has the same goals as treating a non-pregnant woman: control the cancer in the place where it started and keep it from spreading. But the extra concern of protecting a growing baby may make reaching these goals more complex.
If a pregnant woman needs chemotherapy, hormone therapy, or radiation to treat breast cancer in early pregnancy, she may be asked to think about ending the pregnancy. This is because these treatments may harm the fetus. It’s easier to treat a woman who is not pregnant because there is no fear of harming the fetus. But no studies have proven that ending a pregnancy in order to have cancer treatment improves a woman’s prognosis (outlook). Still, this option may be discussed when looking at all the treatment choices available.
Surgery
When possible, surgery is the first treatment for any woman with breast cancer, including those who are pregnant. Removing only the part of the breast with the tumor (breast-conserving surgery) or the entire breast (mastectomy), and/or taking out the lymph nodes under the arm carry little risk to the fetus. But there are certain times in pregnancy when anesthesia (the drugs used to make you sleep for surgery) may be riskier for the fetus.
Many doctors, such as a high-risk obstetrician, a surgeon, and an anesthesiologist will need to work together to decide the best time during pregnancy to do surgery. If the surgery is done later in the pregnancy, the obstetrician may be there just in case there are any problems with the baby during surgery. Together, these doctors will decide which drugs and techniques are the safest for both the mother and the baby.
Mastectomy can often be used as the first treatment for early-stage cancers. Lymph nodes in the armpit may also be taken out if the doctor suspects that the cancer has spread there. Depending on the how far along you are in pregnancy and your cancer stage, your doctor may not be able to do a sentinel lymph node biopsy (SNLB). This procedure uses tracers and dye to pinpoint the nodes most likely to contain cancer cells. SNLB allows the doctor to remove fewer nodes. But there is concern that the radioactive tracer used for SNLB may affect the fetus if used when its organs are growing quickly. More research is needed on this. But for now, it’s standard to take out the lymph nodes to decrease the chance of cancer spread.
Depending on the cancer’s stage, a woman may get more treatment such as chemotherapy, radiation, and/or hormone therapy after surgery to help lower the risk of the cancer coming back. This is called adjuvant treatment. In some cases, this treatment can be put off until after delivery.
Women who have breast-conserving surgery often need radiation therapy afterward. The need for radiation is an important issue for pregnant women when choosing which surgery to have. Radiation could affect the fetus if given during the pregnancy, so it’s not used until after delivery. Doctors don’t know how this delay may affect a woman’s risk of the cancer coming back. Cancer found in the third trimester may involve very little delay in radiation treatments, so there would likely be no effect on outcome. And a woman who will be getting chemotherapy before radiation may have little or no delay in her radiation treatments. But cancers found early in the pregnancy may mean a longer delay in starting radiation. Treatment must always be considered on a case-by-case basis.
Chemotherapy
Chemotherapy, which is also called chemo, may be used along with surgery (as an adjuvant treatment) for some earlier stages of breast cancer. It also may be used by itself for more advanced cancers.
Chemo should not be given during the first 3 months of pregnancy (the first trimester). This is because most of the baby’s internal organs develop during this time. The risk of miscarriage (losing the baby) is also the greatest during the first trimester. The safety of using chemo during this time has not been studied because of concerns about damage to the growing baby.
It was once thought that all chemo drugs would harm an unborn baby. But studies have shown that certain chemo drugs used during the second and third trimesters (months 4 through 9 of pregnancy) do not raise the risk of birth defects, stillbirths, or health problems shortly after birth. But researchers still do not know if these children will have any long-term effects.
When a pregnant woman with early breast cancer needs adjuvant chemo after surgery, it’s usually delayed until at least the second trimester. If a woman is already in her third trimester when the cancer is found, the chemo may be delayed until after birth. The birth may be induced (brought on) a few weeks early in these cases. These same treatment plans may also be used for women with more advanced cancer.
Chemo should not be given after 35 weeks of pregnancy or within 3 weeks of delivery because it can lower the mother’s blood counts. This could cause bleeding and increase the chances of infection during birth. Holding off on chemo for the last few weeks before delivery allows the mother’s blood counts to return to normal before childbirth.
Radiation therapy to the breast is often used after breast-conserving surgeries (lumpectomy or partial mastectomy) to help reduce the risk of the cancer coming back. The high doses of radiation used for this can harm the fetus any time during pregnancy. It may cause miscarriage, birth defects, slow fetal growth, or a higher risk of childhood cancer. Because of this, doctors don’t use radiation treatment during pregnancy.
Pregnant women who choose lumpectomy or partial mastectomy can usually have surgery during pregnancy and then wait until after the baby is born to get radiation therapy. But this treatment approach has not been well-studied in pregnant women. It’s not known if the delay might affect how well the radiation works.
Hormone therapy
Hormone therapy, such as treatment with tamoxifen, may be used as adjuvant treatment after surgery or as treatment for advanced cancer. Its use in pregnant women has not been well-studied, so its full effects are not known. But there have been reports of miscarriage and fetal death, as well as head and face birth defects and genital defects in babies born to women who became pregnant while taking tamoxifen in early pregnancy.
Hormone therapy should not be used during pregnancy, but delayed until after the woman has given birth.
Targeted therapy
Drugs that target HER2, like trastuzumab, pertuzumab, and lapatinib, are an important part of the treatment of HER2-positive breast cancers. Only trastuzumab is used as a part of adjuvant treatment after surgery, but all 3 of these drugs can be useful in treating advanced cancer. Based on animal studies and reports of women who were treated during pregnancy, none of these drugs are safe for the fetus if taken during pregnancy.
Breastfeeding during cancer treatment
Most doctors recommend that women who have just had babies and are about to be treated for breast cancer should stop (or not start) breastfeeding.
If surgery is planned, stopping breastfeeding will help reduce blood flow to the breasts and make them smaller. This can help with the operation. It also helps reduce the risk of infection in the breast and can help avoid having breast milk collect in biopsy or surgery areas.
Many chemo, hormone, and targeted therapy drugs can enter breast milk and be passed on to the baby. So, if the mother is getting chemo, hormone, or targeted therapy, she shouldn’t breastfeed.
If you have questions, such as when it might be safe to start breastfeeding, be sure to talk with your health care team. If you plan to start back after you’ve stopped breastfeeding for a while, you will want to plan ahead. You may need extra help from breastfeeding experts.
Pulling all the treatment plans together
The hardest part of treatment is when there is a conflict between the best known treatment for the mother and the well-being of the fetus. A woman who has breast cancer during her pregnancy may have hard choices to make—she needs to know all her options and she needs expert help. Her obstetrician will need to work with her surgeon, her oncologist, her radiation oncologist, and others involved in her care. Through all this, the woman with breast cancer will need emotional support, so a counselor or psychologist should also be part of her health care team.
If you would like more information on breast cancer and its treatment, please read our document called Breast Cancer.
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I'm currently six months pregnant with ER+ - I definitely think you need a second opinion, especially if your MO has not worked with pregnant breast cancer patients before. I'm part of a FB group of other moms diagnosed with cancer when pregnant, some who also found out early in their pregnancy. Message me if you'd like to join. You should also reach out to hopefortwo.org, who can help discuss options with your medical team as they have compiled lots of data in women in our position. My initial thoughts to your questions is that termination does not have to be an option, Tamoxifen can be done after delivery, and your ER+ can be managed. Most of us pregnant women get chemo before delivery, and some will get surgery after all treatment is finished.
Best of luck to you! You and your baby are in my thoughts. -
Thank you a lot Cougarlicious,
your advice is well taken. Please i will like to join the FB group. I also wish to inform you that in addition to the chemo, i am taking complimentary therapy in form of dietary support. I take the following:
1. Green Tea (with Ganoderma)
2. Quale egg
3.Soursoup Juice
4. ABC Juice (Apple, Beatroot?, Carrot)
5. Pregnacare (original)
6. Plenty of vegetables
7. More of Alkaline foods than Acidic
8. Plenty of water
9. Use of local sea salt
10. Molinga leaves
11. No additives
11. etc.
i will have my second chemo on 30th August 2013. Right now I am feeling very fine. Perphaps the complimentary therapy is contributing its quota. I only have little upset on my 1st week of chemo.
Thank you a million
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