Possible IBC here.

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Chickensheet
Chickensheet Member Posts: 24

Hi, I posted in another forum, but no responses yet. Wondering if anyone here wants to help? I promise I'll stay here from beginning to end and will follow up with all results, so that I don't leave anyone hanging. Here is my OP from another forum:

Hi All, I had piercing, stabbing pain in my right breast a couple of days ago. The pain has entirely abated. I also feel sort of thickening skin around half of my breast and it's slightly pink (like a very mild sunburn, if that).  I went to see GYN right away who prescribed me a comprehensive mammogram and sonogram. Mammogram negative and small 3.5 mass in my breast was inconclusive. GYN got me into a breast specialist same day (yesterday) and she ordered an MRI (will have that done tomorrow morning). Today: no pain, have taken 2 rounds of antibiotic so far (breast doc wants to rule out breast infection first), no swelling, and thickening of skin has abated.  Question: those with inflammatory breast cancer, do these sound like your symptoms? if my symptoms have abated, does this sound like mastitis (no fever, no illness, no flu-like symptoms, no nipple discharge)? My GYN said, "This is not mastitis." My breast doc says, "Treat for 7 days and see what happens. If not better, we will do a skin biopsy."  Another question: can MRI see the difference between cancer and a fibroid? Radiologist who did mammogram and sonogram said, "Mastitis and lump was likely a fibroid." She wanted me to go on 7 day antibiotics and do an MRI, too (age 44, mother had cancer at 34 and is totally fine now without any recurrance from age 35 to 65). Thanks for reading! And a big thanks in advance for answering!

MRI order says, "abnormal area seen between 10 and 11 oclock at approximately 3 cm fn with posterior acoustic shadowing and and overlying skin erythema. concern for possible inflammatory breaset cancer with underlying mass.  *gulp*

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  • ibcmets
    ibcmets Member Posts: 4,286
    edited August 2013

    Chickensheet,

    Welcome. I hope you don't have ibc, but you are taking all the needed tests to determine diagnosis.  The MRI should show something.  Once you have the biopsy, the pathologist will know for sure.  I personally had a lot of swelling, redness & skin thickening, but no pain. My breast was also warm to the touch and itchy.

    Let us know how  the test results come out.

    Terri

  • Chickensheet
    Chickensheet Member Posts: 24
    edited August 2013

    Hi Terri, thanks so much for responding. I've been refreshing over and over in hopes someone would respond! Thank you.  According to the breast specialist/surgeon, if the MRI comes back okay, she's not going to do a biopsy. As of now, so many of my symptoms have abated (and did so before I began taking the antibiotic ... I've read here that some people's symptoms abate after taking the antibiotic, but that doesn't mean it isn't IBC). 

    I'm a newbie, you've read it a million times here from other newbies who are dibilitatingly terrified of what's next ... I'm more terrified of the MRI machine than anything! I go in tomorrow at 7:00 am.  Thanks again for posting back.

  • Ariom
    Ariom Member Posts: 6,197
    edited August 2013

    Hey there chickensheet!

    So sorry that you have been waiting for an answer. I know how awful it is.

    I don't have too much that I can offer. I didn't have IBC, but I do know it is fairly rare. After reading so many posts here from women who fear they may have it, I have realesed that there are an awful lot of breast infections that present for no reason.

    We all understand how you're feeling, we were all newbies once:) That's not to say you're going to join our ranks. The good news is, that 80% of these breast issues turn out to be B9, so your odds are very good...really!

    I know it is scary, I always say that we, as humans just don't do fear of the unknown, well. I wish you all the very best for your MRI tomorrow. You will do just fine, it doesn't take long.

    Come back and let us know how you're doing.

  • Chickensheet
    Chickensheet Member Posts: 24
    edited August 2013

    Hi Ariom, 

    Thank you so much for the support and encouragement. What an amazing group of women that are here! I've probably read post after post for the past 15 hours, as a result, I don't feel so alone. I appreciate you taking the time to post back to me.  

    MRI is in a couple of hours. Hope the radiologist gives me a clue and I won't have to wait to speak to my doctor for reports (which will be four days of waiting -- and waiting is indeed the worst because of the unknown).

  • Elsie0203
    Elsie0203 Member Posts: 30
    edited August 2013

    The breast consultant I saw insisted that IBC is progressive and there is no abatement in the swelling - the breast just gets bigger and more painful.  She wasn't interested in seeing the photos I had taken showing how bad the rash and swelling had been as by the time I went for my consultation the swelling had gone down and the rash had faded.  She only did a mammogram which showed nothing abnormal.  I am still worried as I felt definite lumps (she couldn't identify anything worrying)  My symptoms were very similar to yours and I was told it was mastitis.  I have had mastitis before and this was different - plus it effected both breast.  Consultant said it was likely linked to menopause - that burning, swelling, pain and rash is very common in peri-menopausal and post menopausal women  Hope this helps.  Good luck x

  • Ariom
    Ariom Member Posts: 6,197
    edited August 2013

    You're so welcome!

    I agree that this is a great place to be, when we are in the "Waiting Room". You're never alone.

    The women here are wonderful, I stumbled in here 8 months ago, not knowing what to expect, just like you. I had women offering support and advice, I don't know how I'd have gotten on without them. After my surgery, it became my turn to offer support to the new ones. It is a great circle of women, all there for each other, no matter how far apart we are Geographically.  

    There will be others who will see your post and come to offer their support too.

    I will be thinking of you as you go for your test, and will be aound when you get back! I am in Australia, so the time difference makes it that I am usually around when most of you in the US are sleeping. It works well when people can't sleep. The Aussies are here:)

    Let us know how you get on. Take big cleansing breaths! It will be over before you know it!

  • Chickensheet
    Chickensheet Member Posts: 24
    edited August 2013

    Dear IBCmets, Ariom, and Elsie0203,

    I had an MRI this morning (MRI was a cakewalk for me and I'm irrationally and insanely claustrophobic). I had valium beforehand and the tech accommodated me by allowing me to close my eyes while she walked me to the machine and got me organized on it, so I never had to actually look at the machine. I was face down. It was 30 minutes and went by like it was 10. I asked the tech after, "do you see anything?"  She told me I would have to wait to get results from my doctor. My doc happens to be on vacation until next Tuesday -- 5 more days of waiting. But to my surprise, my doctor called the reading room where they perform the MRI and asked for results over the phone, then she called me immediately to let me know that the MRI didn't show anything to be concerned about (got that call about 10 minutes ago!). A few days before, when she saw the symptoms of my right breast and the results of the ultrasound, she was extremely concerned and was considering skipping MRI and going straight to a skin biopsy. Now, after the MRI, no skin biopsy (and I'm okay with that, as my symptoms have entirely abated (except for the faintest and slightest blush on my breast skin, which doc will check out again next week). 

    Thank you guys so much for responding to me. I'd spent hours and hours (15-ish or so, reading everyone's story and trying to figure out what to prepare myself for). I'm very lucky 1. to have been part of this community who helped me during the gruelling testing process and waiting, and 2. to be among such strong and wonderful women.  I will never forget this experience.  I have parents or siblings. I have two young girls. Nobody else to turn to with something like this, so your responses meant more to be than you know.  (((( hugs ))))

  • DiddleyDoo
    DiddleyDoo Member Posts: 76
    edited August 2013

    Hi Chickensheet - I read your posts and am very happy to hear your great news!  I'm back in the waiting room after first having my biopsy report come back as 'abscess formation in the background of inflamed cysts' and will have my MRI on Monday (I've posted this under "long story ...", if you're interested).  I was interested in your statement that your symptoms have almost abated entirely and based on the time frame, it sounds like the antibiotics helped - is that true?  Did your breast inflammation go down too? 

  • Ariom
    Ariom Member Posts: 6,197
    edited August 2013

    Chickensheet!

    The first thing I did on waking this morning was check to see if you'd been here, and if the MRI went OK.

    I can't tell you how thrilled I am with your results, and also have to say, what a great Doctor for doing that for you.

    I knew you'd be fine with the test!

    I wish you all the very best, take care!

  • Ariom
    Ariom Member Posts: 6,197
    edited August 2013

    Diddleydoo, I am hoping for B9 results for you too!

    Let us know how you're doing.

  • Chickensheet
    Chickensheet Member Posts: 24
    edited August 2013

    Hi Diddleydo, my symptoms were nearly entirely gone before I started the antibiotic. Day 1: terrible shooting pains, feeling of let-down, extremely sore to the touch, bright pink skin and nipple flattening, but not inverted. Day 2: went to GYN to get comprehensive mammogram and sonogram prescription. Day 3: Mammogram showed nothing, sonogram showed 3.5 cm lesion without clear borders. Same day I went to a breast specialist (my GYN got me in same day b/c she was alarmed from the beginning that it could be IBC (which I'd never heard of, even at 44-years-old).  By the afternoon of day 2, my symptoms had abated, except for slight pink/blushing on my breast skin (before I took the antibiotics). I began taking the antibiotics the evening of day 3, after doc prescribed them. Day 4 (today), I had the MRI. 

    I will read your "long story" - will be thinking of you and checking back to see how you're doing. hugs!

  • Chickensheet
    Chickensheet Member Posts: 24
    edited August 2013

    Ariom, 

    Thank you so much for your thoughts! 

    I initially didn't have a GYN, as I had just moved to a new city, so I went to see anyone who would take me the next day, and this GYN happened to agreed to see me. Usually, it takes 2 months to see a GYN as a new patient, so I was grateful. I waited two entire hours in her waiting room and was so disgusted that I thought I'd walk out (two little kids with me, too, who were getting very antsy). Finally, she called me back and was just terribly rude and condescending to me. I absolutely hated her and thought she was the worst doctor I had ever met. I left there, grateful at least to have gotten a mammogram and sonogram prescription out of her. The next morning, first then, I went to the radiology place and they told me the doctor didn't order a comprehensive exam, only a screening. They were very upset with that, b/c anyone with pain, thickening of skin, and my other syptoms should have a full comprehensive screening (the difference, too, being that the radiologist reads everything right then and there, rather than waiting a few days). The radiologist called the GYN and insisted that she fax over the proper paperwork so I could have the right screening. GYN did (after 3 hours: ugh!). Finally, I had the mammogram and sonogram and radiologist was concerned and wanted me to get an MRI and go on antibiotics immediately.  She called GYN to tell her so (as GYN has to prescribed the MRI and antibiotics, radiologist can't do that...). Anyway, GYN wouldn't hear of it, refused... GYN called me on my cell a few minutes later and said, "I'm sending you to a breast specialist right now. I called in a favor to a friend and she will see you at 3:00 pm".  I was surprised by that kind of quit action, given how utterly horrible of a person she was the day before. The breast specialist sped everything along so quickly, as she was worried about IBC, which his how I was able to get the MRI this soon (just a day later).  

    Thank you for being here for me. No words to show how grateful I am.

  • Ariom
    Ariom Member Posts: 6,197
    edited August 2013

    What an amazing story!

    I am so glad it all worked out so well for you.

    I had just moved to a new area when I went for a routine mammo. Fortunately for me, even though I now live in a small coastal town over 300 km from Melbourne, it was the place that had the newest most up to date digital machine available in the world. It picked up my DCIS which could easily have been on my last mammo, but wasn't seen. Had I still lived in the big city, and had gone to the usual imaging place, mine may not have been picked up until it had become invasive.

    How lucky was I?

    I also opted to stay local for my surgery, which sent my city friends into a frenzy LOL But that was the right choice too. I have a wonderful Surgeon who was trained in South Africa, one of the best places for Medical training. He had set up breast clinics throughout Africa, had then moved to London and did the same there. He finally settled here in this beautiful part of the world so he could continue as a Surgeon, but could also see his family grow up. I was lucky to find him. I had my surgery a few days before Christmas, and although I had a couple of small issues post surgery, I really haven't looked back.

    I am still getting used to my "New Normal", but I really believe, once you have felt that fear, as you now have too, things are really, forever changed. I see things a little differently now, just a subtle shift, but different, in a really good way.

    I wish you all things good for the future, enjoy your little ones, they won't be little for long!

    Take care..Moira ((((HUGS))))

  • Chickensheet
    Chickensheet Member Posts: 24
    edited August 2013

    Moira, 

    I love your name! 

    Yes, you were so lucky to have had that digital mammogram close to you. When I got my comprehensive mammogram, they used the digital machine. I noticed the difference between that one and the traditional mammogram machine. I was grateful for having the chance to use that technology, then again, they told me that it likely wouldn't pick up inflammatory breast cancer anyway, nor would the sonogram. And even warned me that the MRI might not pick it up.  So, I wondered why not just get this party started with a biopsy?  My symptoms, today (only a couple days now after the initial onset of panic) have entirely abated. I mean, not a single symptom now, not even the slight blush of color that was there yesterday. I've been taking the antibiotics still (only 4 days now) and maybe it was an infection? I've also read that periomenaupause can set this kind of thing off? I'm 44 and have other symptoms of perio, so maybe? I wish modern medicine knew a lot more about women's bodies and the different cycles of life. We've come a long way with medicine, for sure. But not far enough ... not when I'm reading about others who're into two months of the cancer/no cancer guessing game because they can't get proper health care. Some women who've had my exact symptoms can't get a doctor to prescribe MRI or do a biopsy, instead, they're on round 3 or 4 of antibiotics for an infection, rather than barrelling ahead with ruling out IBC. It just infuriates me.  I live in Washington DC. I will definitely become more involved politically now that I've learned so much about how healthcare for women is just not adequate. You and I are lucky. You were lucky to have that wonderful digital mammogram and doctor. And I was lucky with my breast surgeon. Everyone should have the same opportunity for excellent healthcare. I've learned so much from this experience and plan to continue learning more, and will always fight along other warriers for better care. (((Hugs)))

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