I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited August 2013

    LMAO! I can see Cruz is going to produce a vast plethora of jokes! Move over Dimson! Laughing

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited August 2013

    RL - the only thing I remember from my first MO visits are what I read in the notes taken.  Notes notes notes are a good idea for your niece (and somebody with legible handwriting).  I think I was in shock between dx and bmx.

    After I was found to be brca+, though stage 1, the BS ordered a PetScan (pre surgery). Never understood that except for maybe the high risk of also having ovarian, though they also did a battery of tests for ovarian cancer.  In retrospect, I am glad to have had the PetScan and not have to wonder if I was already Stage IV.  This would be such a personal decision for your niece, if even offerred, but that good Pet Scan (even if my feelings are misguided) has given me some solace.

    Love the Cruz piece.  Totally demonstrates the hypocrisy of the birthers, or the potential to, let alone Cruz's feigned ignorance of his citizen status.  My cousin is Canadian, but born in US.  She was fully aware, her whole lifetiem, as are most children born to a US Citizen parents), but outside of US, what this means.  I can't tell you how many kids I remember who would brag about these sorts of things.

    Speaking of, I think Bachmann continued to pursue her Swiss citizenship.

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited August 2013

    Sunny, this one's for you!

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited August 2013

    This is so true.  Describes Lilah perfectly!

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited August 2013

    My little princess......

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited August 2013

    And she knows it! Smile

  • gardengumby
    gardengumby Member Posts: 7,305
    edited August 2013

    and also what a lovely yard!!!

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited August 2013

    A piece I ran across in the Stragetist.....it is dated the 16th. of Aug.

    GOP's Eve of Destruction


    Mike Allen and Jim VandeHei have a Politico post up that is so discouraging for the GOP that it has been titled 'Eve of Destruction." The entire post is a pretty devastating read for Republican office holders. But we'll just share a enough to whet the Democratic appetite here:

    It is almost impossible to find an establishment Republican in town who's not downright morose about the 2013 that has been and is about to be. Most dance around it in public, but they see this year as a disaster in the making, even if most elected Republicans don't know it or admit it.

    Several influential Republicans told us the party is actually in a worse place than it was Nov. 7, the day after the disastrous election.

    • The party is hurting itself even more with the very voters they need to start winning back: Hispanics, blacks, gays, women and swing voters of all stripes.

    • The few Republicans who stood up and tried to move the party ahead were swatted into submission: Speaker John Boehner on fiscal matters and Sen. Marco Rubio on immigration are the poster boys for this.

    • Republicans are all flirting with a fall that could see influential party voices threatening to default on the debt or shut down the government -- and therefore ending all hopes of proving they are not insane when it comes to governance..

    The blown opportunities and self-inflicted wounds are adding up:

    • Hispanics. Nearly every Republican who stumbled away from 2012 promised to quit alienating the fastest-growing demographic in American politics. So what have they done since? Alienated Hispanic voters -- again.

    It is easy to dismiss as anomaly some of the nasty rhetoric -- such as Rep. Don Young calling immigrants "wetbacks" or Rep. Steve King suggesting the children of illegal immigrants are being used as drug mules. But it's impossible for most Hispanics not to walk away from the immigration debate believing the vast majority of elected Republicans are against a pathway to citizenship.

    ...• Swing voters. Republicans are in jeopardy of convincing voters they simply cannot govern. Their favorable ratings are terrible and getting worse. But there is broad concern it could go from worse to an unmitigated disaster this fall. Most urgently, according to a slew of key Republicans we interviewed, conservative GOP senators have got to give up their insistence that the party allow the government to shut down after Sept. 30 if they don't get their way on defunding Obamacare.

    The quixotic drive -- led by Rubio, Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) -- is part of Rubio's effort to make up with the conservative base after he was stunned by the backlash over his deal-making on immigration. Pollsters say the funding fight makes Republicans look even more obstructionist, and causes voters to worry about the effect a shutdown would have on their own finances.

    Worse, the very few remaining Republican leaders who can accurately be described as open to a modicum of bipartisanship have grim prospects for getting any traction in their party. Indeed, some of them must be wondering if becoming a conservative Democrat might be a good move for their political survival.


     

    Posted by staff on August 16, 2013 11:07 AM

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited August 2013

    Yes, just perfect for a princess!

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited August 2013
  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited August 2013
  • gardengumby
    gardengumby Member Posts: 7,305
    edited August 2013

    LOVE IT, Jackie!!!

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited August 2013

    Jackie,

    What a great quote.  I intend to use it often.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited August 2013

    Sorry for putting some of thesse things in late....I'm just getting to some of them.  This article is from the Stragetist:


    "Republicans Sabotaging, Not Governing. This Is Who They Are Now" by Dave Johnson at Campaign for America's Future blog says it clear and simple: "This is who they are now. This is who the Republican Party is now. It is RedState, Limbaugh, Coulter, Drudge Report, etc. It is not Bob Dole or John McCain or even Ronald Reagan. It is not Ronald Reagan playing poker with Tip O'Neill...Ronald Reagan would be primaried out as a "RINO" in today's Republican Party...If you don't get it yet, let this sink in: Mitch McConnell is being primaried for being "a big government guy" and too "progressive" and working with Democrats. Mitch McConnell!"

    "I don't know enough. I'm sorry. I haven't read that portion of the bill," says N.C. Gov. McCrory of the voter suppression package he is about to sign. The bill is "being called the most suppressive voting law in the nation."

    This idea probably won't get much traction. Meanwhile Dems couldn't ask for a better poster boy for crude nativism and outright bigotry than Republican Rep. Steve King, who has driven a deep spike into the heart of his party's already limp efforts to win Latino votes in 2014.

    Todd Leopold's post, "The Republicans of the future?" at CNN Politics reads more like an exercise in wishful thinking than a harbinger of things to come. Don't be too surprised if many of the young Republicans quoted in this post end up bailing out of the GOP and joining the Libertarian Party out of frustration -- and embarrassment about bigoted bomb-throwers like Rep. Steve King.

    Kyle Kondik's Crystal Ball post on "Senate 2014 and Beyond" sees GOP Senate gains next year, but stops short of predicting a Republican takeover.

    Michael Langenmayr, campaign director of Daily Kos, reports in an e-blast that the Koch brothers are trying to recall two of the best Democratic state legislators in the country, Colorado Democrats John Morse and Angela Giron, whose leadership was instrumental in enacting "a slew of new good government and progressive laws this year--background checks, civil unions, online voter registration, and more." Langenmayr urges Democrats to contribute to protecting Morse and Giron, to help offset the big money right-wingers are dumping into defeating them, and you can do that right here.

    Paul Waldman's American Prospect post, "GOP Circular Firing Squad Locked and Loaded" is chicken soup for the Democratic Soul.

    At Politico James Hohman reports "A statewide survey by Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research, shared first with POLITICO, focused on which messages might get women who voted in the 2008 or 2012 presidential elections, but not for governor in 2009, to show up...They found that statements about Cuccinelli's position on abortion had a bigger effect among this group than any other issue in generating both the level of support and intensity for Democratic candidate Terry McAuliffe. "Protecting a woman's right to choose" trumped health care, guns, transportation, spending and college affordability. This held true in each of Virginia's three-biggest media markets."

    Dan Balz's WaPo post "How the Obama campaign won the race for voter data" illuminates the data driven method used to get to 270 ev's.

    Copycats. Not sure this is going to work out all that well for them, since their grass roots activists are increasingly detached from reality.


     

    Posted by J. P. Green on July 29, 2013 7:34 AM

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited August 2013

    Jackie - they are as delusional as the people voting for them.  I use to just blame the voters.

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited August 2013

    And then there are these nuts, or should I say maniac!

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited August 2013

    Thank you.  The yard is small but it's my get-away.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited August 2013

    Small =  hopefully much easier to take care of so one can spend a great deal more time in enjoyment and relaxation..............a fantastic place to "lose" the idjuts of the world for a time and not have to deal with their stupidity.  If only there were a pill for stupid but they'd refuse to take it.  That's a losers mentality.

    Jackie

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2013

    Gorgeous garden, ruled over by The Princess - you can almost HEAR her saying MINE, MINE, MINE.  Really a lovely placec.

    Fabulous closet - soooooo organized, oh, my.  I have a zillion ( well a lot) of those folding wooden bookcases, easy to move around, and holding more artist stuff than I'll ever use.  But SUCH FUN TO PLAY. Getting old is definitely the best time to play.  Happy Play everyone.

    Pats, pats, pats to Bo & SunnyLaughing

  • Alyson
    Alyson Member Posts: 4,308
    edited August 2013

    Blue, the garden is beautiful and so is the ruler who knows her place in this world.

    Thanks all for my morning reading and laugh. Just had read through our local morning paper which is supposed to be the leading paper in the country and its standard of journalism is shocking. I am so tired of sensational headlines which have little reference to the article.

    Do love the Cruz saga especially after all the fuss about Obama.

    Sunny i could never have a closet like that, everything would be falling out. You should see the cupboard i keepmy sewing stuff in!!!

  • Marple
    Marple Member Posts: 19,143
    edited August 2013

    Blue, your little oasis is absolutely stunning.  It's so neat and tidy.  Whoever the gardener is.......hats off to 'em.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited August 2013
  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited August 2013

    “Let’s remember, Jesus was a Jewish man of color, born homeless to an unwed teenager, who spent his formative years as an illegal immigrant before returning to his home country to hang out with twelve men, prostitutes, and socially untouchable tax collectors while he taught a radical social doctrine of equality, love, and forgiveness that included paying taxes, free healthcare, and the sharing of resources within a community.” -- Allie Kay, member of The Christian Left

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited August 2013

    Marple, my Ray of Sunshine does all the hard work and I enjoy.  Wish I could do it but not possible. 

  • gardengumby
    gardengumby Member Posts: 7,305
    edited August 2013

    Blue!  You are definitely on a roll today!  :)  Great quotation.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited August 2013

    Todays progress report:

    Burning Down the House

    Aug 20, 2013

    Will GOP Obstructionism Hand the House to Democrats?

    As we’ve been discussing, the Republican Party is in the midst of a meltdown over Obamacare. The party is united in its irrational opposition to the law’s offer of health security to millions of Americans; however, the GOP is nevertheless engaged in an all-out civil war over whether or not to shut down the government in a last ditch effort to try and derail the law.

    (Ironically, even Republicans admit that shutting down the government won’t actually stop Obamacare from moving forward.)

    Dozens and dozens of Congressional Republicans have signed onto letters advocating a government shutdown over Obamacare.

    Yesterday, Heritage Action began a national pro-government shutdown tour that NPR reports even Republicans think means “political suicide” for the party. The former Tea Party Senator Jim DeMint (R-SC), now the president of the Heritage Foundation, told a town hall audience that any Republicans who are afraid of shutting down the government ought to be “replaced.”

    DeMint may get his wish, sort of. Center for American Progress Senior Fellow Ruy Teixeira, an expert in political demography, explains how the GOP’s “coordinated campaign to alienate anyone interested in functional governance” could hand Democrats control of the House of Representatives in 2014.

    Teixeira’s analysis is a bit of a longread for this space, but it’s worth it:

    Why are Republicans so freaked out?

    At this point, they have a good chance — perhaps around 50-50 — of picking up enough seats to take the Senate, while Democrats’ chances of picking up the 17 seats they need to regain control of the House look considerably smaller than that. And yet, as one Politico story put it, “it is almost impossible to find an establishment Republican in town who’s not downright morose about the 2013 that has been and is about to be.”

    Politico suggests the reason for the glumness is fear about the political fallout from the GOP’s unyielding, nihilistic approach to governance on issues like Obamacare and the debt ceiling. That problem may be far worse than they imagine. A close scrutiny of the data reveals several demographic weak points that the current wave of Republican crazy could activate, leading to the outcome they dread the most: Democratic control of both houses of Congress.

    Start with minorities. It’s not well-known, but Republicans in 2010 benefited not only from relatively low minority turnout (standard for an off-year election) but also from relatively low minority support for Democratic candidates. Emphasis here is on the relative: minority support for House Democrats in 2010 was 73-25 — high, but below the 77-22 margin that minorities averaged in the three off-year elections that preceded 2010. If minorities snap back to 77-22 Democratic support as a consequence of Republican misbehavior, and the expected 2 percentage point increase in the share of minority voters from population trends emerges, then the Republican 6.8 percentage point margin in 2010 will be immediately sliced in half. And if the minority vote goes even stronger for the Democrats, reaching 2012 levels, that would eliminate about three-quarters of the Republicans’ 2010 advantage all on its own.

    Another demographic problem for the GOP comes from a more surprising quarter: seniors. As Erica Seifert of Democracy Corps noted in a recent memo:

    There’s something going on with seniors: It is now strikingly clear that they have turned sharply against the GOP. This is apparent in seniors’ party affiliation and vote intention, in their views on the Republican Party and its leaders, and in their surprising positions on jobs, health care, retirement security, investment economics, and the other big issues that will likely define the 2014 midterm elections.

    We first noticed a shift among seniors early in the summer of 2011, as Paul Ryan’s plan to privatize Medicare became widely known (and despised) among those at or nearing retirement. Since then, the Republican Party has come to be defined by much more than its desire to dismantle Medicare. To voters from the center right to the far left, the GOP is now defined by resistance, intolerance, intransigence, and economics that would make even the Robber Barons blush. We have seen other voters pull back from the GOP, but among no group has this shift been as sharp as it is among senior citizens.

    It is therefore quite plausible that the GOP will benefit far less from senior support in 2014 than in 2010. If the senior share of voters returns to normal levels (19 percent) and the Republican margin among this group drops to its post-2000 average (6 points, about where it is right now in the Democracy Corps polls) that would take care of the rest of the GOP margin from 2010, getting the Democrats slightly past the break-even point in the popular vote.

    Of course, given the well-known GOP advantage in translating seats to votes, Democrats probably need to do substantially better than breaking even to attain a majority in the House. That won’t be easy, but there are certainly potential avenues to shift the 2014 House vote even farther in Democrats’ direction. There is the youth vote, for example, which was relatively poor for the Democrats in 2010 (55-42) and could certainly improve, as well as possibly turn out in larger numbers. The latter could also be true of the minority vote, whose projected 2 point increase in voter share, is due solely to population increase. If relative minority turnout is better in 2014 than 2010, then there will be an even larger increase in minority vote share over 2010, pushing the Democrats’ margin farther toward what they need to take the House.

    Make no mistake about it: the Democrats face an uphill climb. But the possibilities outlined above inch closer to reality every day the GOP continues its coordinated campaign to alienate anyone interested in functional governance.

    BOTTOM LINE: If Republicans shut down the government over Obamacare or their demands for more damaging austerity, they might get to personally experience repeal and replace after all.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited August 2013

    ( Blue ) Quotes well chosen.

    Jackie

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited August 2013

    Given the fact that most of the States with Republican governors have passed voter suppression laws, the Dems had better be working NOW to help minorities and the inner city poor get Voter ID in conformity with each States' laws.  Then, the Dems need to have transportation to the polls on voting days.  The ground game better be going on now or nothing good will happen in 2014

  • Chickadee
    Chickadee Member Posts: 4,467
    edited August 2013

    I would love to believe that voters would turn out these fools. However we can't ignore the gerrymandering of districts that these people have foisted on us for many decades now. Potential voters are fed up and don't vote anymore, leaving the decisions to the more extreme of either party. Young people could care less and don't believe voting is relevant to their lives.



    So we get these career politicians who have done nothing else in society but run for office. They have no perspective on anything beyond their own notoriety and opportunities to get rich off their positions.



    Ugh!

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited August 2013

    Voters will turn out if they have ID, transportation and a call from a volunteer asking them to vote.  That's what got Obama elected twice. 

    Yes, there will be Red districts, but we shouldn't write off even those districts because there are Republicans who will vote Dem out of disgust with the T-party. My sister who has always voted Republican because she is prolife will now vote Dem.  I just mentioned to her that Republicans are pro fetus, not prolife.  She gets it.  She is now telling her very Repub friends the same thing.

    We need to explain that we are the party that wants to see healthy, well-educated children and adults with jobs.

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