August 2013 Chemo Sisters
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Carol: Thanks for the advice on the counselor. DD has a great counselor at school that really helped her in May when I was diagnosed and she'll be there when school starts in a week. It'll be good.
HVV, exercise has been shown to reduce side effects in chemo patients. Even when I didn't feel up to it I walked everywhere and weirdly my stomach pains during the TC week always were helped by a walk. So even gentle exercise is helpful. Rest when you need but try to be as normal as possible.
And as to the as per normal, I still fatigue easily but I pace myself. Friday at a three hour lunch then rest; yesterday four-hour memorial service then rest. Today another service 4 to 8 and then I'll crash. This coming weekend I'm going to an amusement park with my daughter! So I try to be as normal as possible within reason.... -
I discovered a new symptom this morning...puckering in the niple on the breast where I had surgery!!! I see the MO tomorrow, thank God. I have Triple Negative BC, grade 3, very aggressive. I am terribly worried this morning that something is going on. I had a lumpectomy on July 12, so there's plenty left, believe me, where something else could grow. I'm praying that it was just cold. Ha. Why wasn't the other one cold, as well? Maybe it was hanging a bit more south of the border. Gotta' make fun of myself or I'll cry, right Rayna?
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Good morning all - it's Imodium day....
Rayna I'm day 6. Too early for hair loss, one would think, but what you gonna do? If its worse today ill ask the DH to cut it, as I refuse to trail hair after me at work! We don't have enough housekeepers to keep up with it...
Cutie kool I'm in austin. I was just thru AZ with the DH on a vaca between excisional bx and lumpectomy, lol! It was a driving vaca, lessee, we stayed in needles, then drove thru oatman and visited the burros. Had ice cream in, uh, seligman and then down 89a where we turned off to Jerome. Lovely spot, specially if you've got $. ; ). Spent the night in sedona, which ditto, but we found reasonable hotel and I discovered the hand painted yarns at sedona knitwits. We did a little hiking then drove thruWinslow to Holbrook, where we stayed 2 nights and visited the petrified forest and painted desert.
Did I mention we re photographers? Lol! Sorry for th e long list but if you live anywhere along those routes we could have crossed paths. Like me and gavinsgrandma, we probably fell over each other more than once after missing our meet up : (.
Oh, and Shary, that camp spot -it's right above independence on the way to onion valley. Little creek there, lovely place.
HVV, I am hunkering at home this weekend as I feel like crap. I've also gone from constipation to diarrhea, with bowel/ stomach cramping instead of vomiting ( which is a good trade, as far as I'm concerned). So, SAB, no jumping thru hoops today ! Maybe tomorrow! My goal for today is to sit up more, as my back is starting to bother me for lying down all day yesterday.
Found lots of cool stuff on Etsy, though ; )
Big hugs to all and a Blessed Lords day to us. -
SAB, you hang in there - it could even just be some scar tissue forming in there, pulling/ adhering. Try some light massage, circular, ok? Praying for peace of mind for you...
Lisa, don't overdo things! I know we want to be normal for our kids, boy do I know that! But life brings them all sorts of lessons, you know? It won't hurt her to learn them at your side. Hugs to the both of you. -
Thanks for being there Carol and all others on this thread. It is a tremendous calming device for me to now that others are in the same boat and have experienced this before I have to go through it. We can do this with God's help. Onward HO. That's HO as in wagon train, not Ho as it is known today or HO HO HO as in Santa. God bless everyone today. Be strong so I can lean on you, as I'll try to be strong, so you can lean on me.
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Sharon: The same thing happened to me, certain mornings the breast I had the lumpectomy on would be red and slightly swollen. I do know that if I am sleep deprived
that my breast will be swollen. I also had a hard lump in that breast in a place that wasn't cut during surgery, I have had 2 ultrasounds and they tell me its blood and fluid pooled there. Amazing because it actually feels sharp. I am having a bilateral mastectomy when chemo is done but I still wanted to know what the lump was.
I would definitely get it checked out though.
Laughter is great, I remember when I was just dx and I was out with my sister, my niece and my son and we were deciding what to do and I said "Well we have to do what I want because I have cancer" Well you should have seen the looks on their faces, they were so shocked that I would make fun of the situation but I find if we can laugh at ourselves it sure makes things a little easier.
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Ratna - I totally agree about laughter. My friends keep telling me I can't use this cancer card forever so you better use it up!!! I had a double masectomy on July 9 th before my chemo started. I have TE that will be removed an implants put in once chemo is done. The Masectomy was a piece if cake compared to the side effects I am having from chemo.
Lisasp - I agree exercise is the best thing if you can do it. As sick as I have been i turtle walk every evening. It seems more like my husband is carrying me but I am out there. I do exercises in bed as well. There is a yoga class in my area that is put on by FL cancer that I hope to try next next week.
Carol - sorry today you aren't feeling so great! Hope the Imodium works. And you are feeling better soon.
Made my appointment to get me head shaved next Tuesday. I am shedding like my dogs. I keep saying look at all this hair these dogs are getting everywhere and then say oh!!! That is mine!!!!! I am prepared wigs, scarfs, hats, bandanas, beannies, big earrings. One of my friends said to me...... do you think you are going to have cancer the rest of your life... Lol. I said no I am just freaked out about loosing my hair! She said good cause when your hair grows back we are opening a boutique with all this stuff and it will be free to BC patients.... Lol
Any suggestions on easy calming stomach foods. The last two days I have been able to eat.... Yipeee!! but nothing tastes good. I have been eating frozen peas and steamed vegetables for breakfast lunch and dinner. That is the only thing that doesnt give me diahrea. I am really starting to get hungry which is a great sign, but just not sure what to try. Any suggestions!! Plus I am the one that needs to get my red cell count up before next blood check.
Sharon - I think you mentioned liver which I luv as well since I was raised in KY, but there is no was I can stomach that at this time.
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I just wanted to say thank you to everyone for all the thoughts and prayers, you are all in mine as well.
I had my first chemo treatment on aug 6th, I feel like I've had every symptom I can. I hope the next treatment on tues is easier because I can't take 4 months of dry heaving, horrible headaches, acid reflux, body aches, upset stomach etc. and those are just some of my symptoms!! I take medicine for all of them and they never fully go away sometimes they do get tolerable though. I noticed that if I get out of bed and actually do something I do really feel better.
I'm going to the look good feel better program on Monday, I hope that will encourage me...so scared to loose my hair and it's day 12 after my first treatment, I know it's coming
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Rayna, Laughter is the best medicine, they say. I don't know who "they" are, but I believe it. Thanks for the advice. If I develop another tumor, I'm having both girls removed and opt for a size B! I'd lose 20 pounds right there and be at my optimal weight!
EVERYONE: I was trying to decide how I will stay hydrated when I'm sick because I can't imagine drinking so much when I'm nauseated, so to know how much water I would get from ice cubes, I melted 20 of my size ice cubes in a measuring cup, and it was 1 cup of water. Now, I can tell how much I've had; that is, if I don't lose count. I've been drinking at least 3/4 gallon a day, that's about 12 cups. I know I won't get that much when I'm puney. Maybe I'll have to melt a popcycle to see how much fluid each one holds. Be right back. One of those long popcycles in plastic sleeves that you buy at Walmart is a little more than 1/4 cup of fluid, but not even 1/8 more, so I'm going to count them as 1/4 cup. The math teacher is coming out today. I thought I retired.
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Togetherness, I understand! I don't think I would be able to eat liver on a queasy stomach. I ate so much last nigherol t that I'm sure my cholesterol is higher. Someone said that mashed potatoes is good to eat when you're not feeling well.
Ashley, you're so beautiful you will be beautiful no matter what you do. My aunt told me about a band that goes around your head when you're bald that holds on your scarf, hat, or wig. Look online on YouTube for ways to tie headscarves. There are some young girls who demonstrate and make it look simple. With your pretty face, a scarf tied around your head would look great. Sometimes, they let the ends hang down to the side or in the back. Really creative.
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Today is day 9 since my first infusion, it's been great so far!
~ I attended church service @ 7:15a~ Instead of putting on my Walk Away the Pounds CD, I exercised for 1 hour while watching Oprah with Don Miguel Ruiz, author of The Four Agreements. Great book, I suggest everyone read it!
~ After exercising, I took an 1.5 hour nap. I did not want to exercise, but I'm glad I did!!!
~ Now I'm about to make some Lotion Massage Candles for an upcoming conference where I will be a vendor. This will be my first vending opportunity since my surgery May 21st and I am excited!!!
I'm thinking about washing my hair, too! Not sure if I should apply the pre-wash, stimulating scalp scrub, though. I don't want to do anything that might cause hair fall sooner . . . any suggestions?
MAKE it a great day!!!
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Togetherness: I laughed at the boutique idea when you are done and selling all your stuff. Try poached eggs, they are very easy to digest and protein or cream of wheat. I like mashed potatoes. And because everything has no taste I'm eating spicy foods which normally I wouldn't have that spicy, (might not work if you have been having stomach issues though)
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Sharon: Thanks for the laugh again, I just saw you leaving your computer to go and melt a popsicle, it feels nice to laugh. You'll be able to make Sharon's Water Conversion Table and get it out there to everyone. lol
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Formygranddaughter; Are you sure they didn't infuse you with Saline instead of Chemo, lol. Thats wonderful that you aren't sick. Isn't it something how we all respond so differently, you would think there would be one common denominator. Well, good luck I'm praying you will continue to feel so well.
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raynaj, LOL. I'm pretty sure I'm getting chemo. I work hard at being positive and finding the silver lining on each chemo cloud!!! Don't get me wrong, I have a few mild aches + pains.
On the T/C forum, many mentioned scalp pain when the hair begins to fall. Has anyone experienced scalp pain?
I'm my own guinea pig. I'm not cutting my hair because I want to document my hair experience + journey . . . "From Fall to Restoration". I also created a natural herbal scalp + hair butter w/KGF. For the last year or so, I've applied the butter to my hair, lashes + brows and have seen growth. The lemongrass, coffee + rosemary extracts makes the scalp tingle so it may be too intense for an irriated scalp but I will continue to put it on my lashes + brows (in hopes of keeping them longer).
I will also working on creating a soothing scalp butter to calm an irriated scalp + help encourage hair growth. The butter will be all natural and include butters like mango, shea, virgin coconut cream.
If anyone wants to sample it, let me know. Check out my online store @ http://shop.jlexi.co.
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I just had my port put in on Friday and first AC is Wed. Not that anyone is ever ready, but I've got my bag bag packed and my kindle charged. Hopefully, that will be enough.
I haven't read all the posts - but did the worst symptoms hit you on the day of, the day after or the second day after treatment. I was told that Friday is going to be the hardest. Which is okay since I only have treatments every three weeks and I can take that Friday as part of my FMLA.
Thanks!
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FMG: About the scalp pain, yes I did have that, it was the feeling you get if you've had your hair in a ponytail or a different position for a while and then let it hang down again. It was sore near the roots.
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Wing48: Welcome to the site, My experience with my 1st infusion was Day 1 - 4 I felt pretty good because of the steroids, Day 5 - 12 were the very worst, extreme fatigue and muscle aches. But you never know everyone responds differently my second treatment didn't follow the first for symptoms at all, I was tired on Day 2 with bone pain on Day 6 because of the Nuelasta, Are you getting the Nuelasta shot?
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Yeah Rayna, then there will be the Standard English System, the Metric System, and the Water Conversion Table. I wonder if the world is ready for this. I am going to shut down this contraption so I can get ready for tomorrow's appointment. It seems like a year that I've been waiting. Everyone stay strong and don't have bad SE's. Take your meds and go out and walk. I'll be back with my report tomorrow afternoon when I get home. SAB
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Wing, so far days 5 and 6 have been the worst, but this afternoon I'm perking up a bit. I agree that the steroids help with days 3, 4 and 5 -as much as I didn't like the buzz. I'm not having nausea, but cramping, but intend to head on in to work tomorrow. We'd I get my counts done, and we'll see. My NP said if i felt "down and flu-ish" that probably meant my WBC were down.
I, too, enjoyed visualizing SAB melting and measuring things. Did you also teach science as well as math, Sherry? ; ) -
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Carol, The first year I taught high school I was 41. I taught high school math only. I hated the lack of discipline so I went to a small Christian Academy and taught all of the math classes, a science class 5th grade, High School English. We didn't have 50 minute classes. We taught a very small group of students the lesson, then gave them time to work on it while we taught another group. It worked. Those kids did well. Then I went to a public school and taught sixth grade math. I did that until I retired at 62 to take care of Mother and my husbands dad. What do you do? ( I lied. I was going to shut down the computer, but here I am. Addictions are hard to break.)
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Kids going through cancer treatment here get a bead for their necklace for every invasive treatment they have to have. Perhaps you have something similar in the US. I've decided why should the kids have all the fun; there has to be an adult version of this. The hard part is coming up with something desirable, good for us and cheap enough. I have figured I've had 11 separate invasive procedures (injections, bloods, biopsy, ops) and I dont strat chemo till Wednesday. So chocolates -cheap but no good for weight gain; bottles of wine - expensive and given up except for special occasions (not sure how long the abstinence will last though!), silver charms - maybe would get too expensive... healthy food e.g. carrots just don't cut it as a reward...
any suggestions out there?
The anticipation of the next assault is so hard...what on earth did I spend my time thinking about before I got this thing?
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Gashgold, I like the idea of charms.
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ForMyGranddaughter - I'd love to try your head salve. I was just at Target trying to figure out what to use on my head once the hair falls out (baby shampoo seems like the common response, but salve sure sounds better).
All - provided you are feeling well, are you avoiding public places? I know I only had my first tx on Friday, but everyone keeps asking me when I'm going to stop going out. I think it's been assumed I am now forced to be a recluse. I'm not doing anything crazy - meeting up for lunch or grocery shopping, and doing lots more hand washing and sanitizing when I do- but I'm told by friends that I can't do that once my cell counts drop on Day 7-10. If I feel fine, should I still count on staying at home during those days just in case? When is it "ok" to go out and "not ok"? -
Wing, I had my port put in Tuesday (3 weeks s/p bmx) and had my first AC infusion Wed. Slept through the last 30 minutes due to the sedative in the pre-infusion "cocktail." Napped when I got home, but generally felt okay...until about 8:00. Vomited, then had constant nausea and dry heaves every morning until Saturday afternoon. (They dont call it "the dance with the devil" for nothing!) Felt okay last night, though wasn't very active. Decided to go to church today (and did), but was very weak and exhausted easily (even with dressing). My oncologist said to completely mark everything off my calendar for three days, then I would feel a little better gradually over the next few days, then WBCs will drop between days 7-10, so will feel crappy again, then it will start to get better, then we do it all over again. He said that essentially I won't feel good for the next 18 weeks. But, hey! It's only 18 weeks to gain what we hope is years!
. (I would appreciate you reminding me of that when I get my next dose the 28th!) Oh, and we'll start to lose our hair about day 10. The good news is that will only happen once, right?! Neulasta injection hasn't caused any issues (though I had to have a throw-up container in the car for the trip). The nurse told me to take Claritin for five days for that starting the day of the injection. Will be praying for you!!!
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Hi Cougarlicious, I've been told by my chemo nurse not to go to any enclosed public spaces with lots of people, eg. movie theatres, bars etc and she is not too happy about me working with teens in classrooms at that time. But I would have thought grocery shopping and meeting up with a few friends would be ok. If the weather's good where you are I guess you could sit at a cafe with outdoor space. Maybe some experienced person might drop by to give us more advice on this.
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I have a very flexible work place so they know if I don't show up on Thursday it's because I can't. And I am thankful that I have a short term disability available to me, so I'm not so nervous. Isn't it enough to be a single parent to 3 (with one on the spectrum) without having to deal with this?
I know everyone is different so I'll just try and go with the flow. My doctor is telling me he sees people with the worst days being 3-5...but that's just 'on average' and I am anything but. Sigh.
Thanks everyone.
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Cougarlicious: Are your friends doctors? If not, just ask the oncologists office their recommendations instead.
Oh and do whatever your SEs at the time let you manage.
Seriously because you are pregnant your med team has advice we probably even don't know about since we're not in your shoes. For me my cell counts have been fine. I'll see what happens after my 2nd round on the 26th.
Carol thanks for worrying! But I'm so fortunate that my SEs have been low that I very able to do the trip. Plus it's very tame and my hubby and friends will be there and I can take plenty of breaks.
Rayna I totally get your sense of humor. In fact there is a wonderful group established for and by young adults with cancer called Stupid Cancer. Really! At their store, stupidcancerstore.com, they sell a real 'Cancer Card.' It's a plastic black card that says Cancer Card and has a key tag that says it too. Good for all occasions like 'Oh I can't possibly fold the laundry...I have cancer.'
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