Exercise - Working Back to it After or During Treatment
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Hi gritgirl
Glad Butch is getting better.
No real exercise had a check up day at the hospital. So all my energy went in stress.
Will try to do better this week.
I forgot I did walk down the dreaded hill.
Mara -
Hi Tarheel Ronda, I did find a dress that makes me feel pretty. The color is raspberry, so it's a deep pink like raspberry sherbert ( and I bought it long before all my "pink" stuff started!). It has cap sleeves and rusching (it that how you spell it?) up the waist with appliques on the sleeves and up one side. Tea length. I love it and can't wait to wear it. I ahve really tried to step up the walking this week which makes me feel better about myself too. I sit on a stability ball at work and am starting to do some crunches on it when I think about it. The wedding is in two weeks...I can't believe it! I'm still waiting for a final answer from the MO about my treatment plan, it seems that there are conflicting reports between my pathology and oncotype as I posted earlier this week. I talked to her nurse yesterday, she has been getting emails about me all week and now it sounds like they did the pathology on one tumor and the oncotype on another. If that's the case then I actually have two different things going on. YIKES! So they are going to do the pathology on the second site this week and see if it matches the oncotype. I'm not sure why they wouldn't do pathology on all of the tumors....I thought the report said they did.
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The dress sounds pretty Rhody, I think raspberry is a flattering shade, for most skin tones. I am pretty confused just READING about the pathology vs. the oncotype. I really hope they can get things straightened out before the wedding. Honestly, I hear so many strange stories about tumor pathology reports, I can't help but wonder if a tumor, on any given day, could change its characteristics. I mean, why not? It doesn't seem like researchers have a handle on many truths about cancer tumors. And we've been told that cancer recurrences can change hormonal status. It's so confusing and I see that you are at the beginning of your journey with treatment, which makes the unknown worse. My DH just bought a stress ball chair for his home office. I don't think he's doing crunches, although I may suggest it, hee hee.
Mara, I wish stress burned calories like exercise.
It's a lovely day here today but I have already jogged/walked 5 miles in the past week, so I'm not doing anything. How about everyone else?
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It feels like autumn here. I guess we are getting close to that time but this summer has been a blur of chemo haze for me, so it doesn't seem like mid-August. I have had to wear hoodies in the morning on my bald head! But it turned out beautiful and 75 degrees today so my son and dog and I went for a walk for about 35 minutes. I had to take a short cut at the end as I was really tiring but I feel good about that. I did nothing yesterday though. Zero, zilch.
My dog has been sick too but I think he's 90% better. Of course he was sick and needing to go out every two hours at the most inopportune moment - husband out of town and I had just done chemo and was a zombie.
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Twohobbies. So sorry about your pup.
Rhody. That is confusing.
Mara. No hills for me either.
Another medical day so got walking in. Echo cardiogram. Pep talking my heart, Baby Doll, to get her ejection fraction rate up. Such a stressful day, I went to bed at 8. -
Gritgirl, keep on keepin'on! I wish you all the best. You have such a great outlook on everything, and you are such a support to the rest of us. Take care of Baby Dolll....you need her! I am going for a MUGA scan next week....MO told me to schedule it "in case I need chemo." It doesn't seem to me to be the kind of test you schedule for "just in case..." Sounds like she is trying to be gentle in delivering the news.....BTW if I can ask, what is your first name?
Martha
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Martha, a MUGA is standard course in cancer treatment, so don't worry about it. Either way, they'll need a baseline for the old heart.
I am Susan. Called the oncologist office with the hope that the results will be in today. Most of what I've read says there's not much I can do to get that ejection fraction rate up, but then I read some other stuff that said exercise and eating good food (ie, not junk food) can. That sure as heck lit a fire under my butt. I've been eating healthy snacks for over a week now and am more inspired to walk.
Come on, Baby Doll! You can do it. :-)
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Go, go Baby Doll!!
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Hi all
Had a really lazy day today but gritgirl I promise to eat healthy and get moving. Just a bit overwhelmed from the hospital visit does it to me every time.
Tarheel wouldn't it be great if stress equalled calories I would be so slim.
Envy you your furry friends gritgirl give them a hug from me.
Mara -
Mara. Stress should be exercise.
Got call from oncologist. I'm at 53. Phew. That means I get to keep the magic juice, herceptin. Thank goodness.
Got my my steps in and a sense of relief too. -
Great news, gritgirl. Whatever you've been doing, keep doing it.
Martha, what's a MUGA scan?
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Susan, thanks! Now I know your name! Go on the healthy foods....that's what I have been trying to do--lots of fruits and vegetables . That's actually what I am craving these days since my surgery. When I think I crave jiunk like pizza and wings I take a couple bites and don't want anymore. Guess my body is trying to tell me something. I have been eating alot of greek yogurt for breakfast Good, no-fat protein.
Ronda, a MUGA scan is a nuclear scan of the heart that measures it's pumping strength. The MO said she wanted to do it "in case I need chem" but I think that's a bit strange. You don't do nuclear scans "just in case" because they are expensive. So I believe chemo is in my future. Of course I will do whatever I need to do to keep on keepin' on, it's just very discouraging because when all this started in May I was told I had simple DCIS and now everything has turned 360 degrees....I'm glad I have all of you to share with!
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But you know, Martha, chemo is YOUR choice. And even the test is. That's just the way I look at it, as a means of saying, you DO have control over some things here. I haven't had chemo or a MUGA, but I'm guessing gritgirl has had one.
All this heart stuff ... it seems to be the one organ that doesn't get cancer, but it suffers so much from the treatment. Hoping y'all have healthy hearts for a long time. And keep sharing, it certainly helps my fear level to be able to share and listen.
I don't crave junk much either. I definitely have cravings, usually lasting about 6 weeks. I do believe my body is telling me what it needs. Lately it's been seafood. Sometimes it's leafy greens.
My DH is training for the NY marathon, so it's definitely influencing my motivation to exercise. I wish that healthy eating and exercise were all it took to combat cancer, but at least it's making us feel better.
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Yeah, eating healthy won't cure cancer, but I want to feel better and keep my herceptin.
I did go through chemo and it saved my life. Not a fun experience, but a small price to pay to get cancer out. I wanted all the cancer to die, so didn't use a cold cap or put cold on my nails. The cold keeps the chemo back, but I wanted the chemo to get to every stray cancer cell.
I sure am glad this group is here. It helps me keep moving and motivated. Tarheel. Good for you on the marathon motivation.
Today I ate healthy and got basic walking in. As they say, progress not perfection. :-) -
I only got as far as putting the exercise clothes on today, lol! Oh well, I have been running aorund the house cleaning and organizing and then went grocery shopping - in my exercise clothes, so I am counting it!
Rhody - I posted on the other thread concerning your pathology and Oncotype issue. On the MUGA issue, they are a pretty standard test (I had echocardiograms) to check ejection fraction. Sometimes it can take a few weeks to schedule one of these tests so your onc may be having you do it in case you do need to begin chemo you will not be delayed. There is a window of opportunity for maximum efficacy with chemo. With the confusion regarding your receptors, etc. and waiting for the Oncotype results your onc may trying to get your "ducks in a row" so to speak.
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SpecialK, thanks! I'm sure there is the possibility that they ordered the MUGA "just in case," but as far as a window of time, I don't know. With all the mess-ups, it's now been over 3 months since my initial biopsy, and almost 10 weeks since the surgery. Kind of crazy. That's what scares me. At least I know my bone scan and CT scans were clear. I just get frustrated because it seems everything in my case is getting mixed up. The original biopsy go mixed up because they put tissue samples from the two different tumors in the same test tube vial......kind of an omen I guess.
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You can see by my sig line that my path was crooked as well, I know it is scary and frustrating- I did not start chemo until 14 weeks after surgery because I kept having more surgery! That is why I am thinking your doc wants the MUGA done - so you are not delayed further if you do need chemo. It is a routine test, so don't worry too much about it - as I said I had echos, not MUGAS, but I have had 5 or 6 over the course of treatment, and anyone on Herceptin long term, like gritgirl, has them periodically to check EF. Since you are Her2-, I think they just want to get a baseline in case you need Adriamycin. It is actually a good thing, not all docs check, so your is being thorough and appropriate.
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Thanks SpecialK. Your post is very reassuring! You are probaboy right. I hope I will hear from the doctor today; she was away on vacation last week. I'm just so frustrated because this has gone on for so long...
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So I got the call from MO today......turns out when tumors look similar they only test one. The larger tumor was ER+/PR+, the smaller was in fact triple negative. I guess the good news is that the two lymph nodes that were positive were also ER+/PR+. She tells me that the triple negative is aggressive.....so we will go to see her tomorrow to start the plan. 4 cycles of Adriamycin and Cytoxan then 12 weeks of Taxol. I go for the MUGA scan on Thursday.
I'm sure that everything will be fine, but I must admit that I am scared!
Martha
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Martha: Glad you're moving forward. It is scary, and it's manageable. I joined a group on the chemotherapy forum for folks starting chemo the same month I did. It was very helpful to be able to talk about what was going on while it was happening.
Hugs to you.
Susan
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rhody - I can only speak personally, but I have found through this process the anticipation of either surgery or chemo was worse than the actual experience. They are very good these days at mitigating side effects from chemo drugs and it sounds like your doc is already on the ball requesting a MUGA prior to giving you Adriamycin - as I said above, not all do that, so I would take that as a positive sign. I found a great deal of support and sisterhood from my chemo group, I recommend finding the Aug or Sept 2013 ladies - we were all going through the same stuff at the same time. I can advise you a bit on the Taxol part - I had Taxotere, but a number of the potential SE are the same, just let me know. I think there are also some AC-T threads that may have specific advice. You can get through this, but I know it is scary.
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Great news Susan!!! Sorry chemo is in the cards Martha, but we all get through it. When people mention that I was always so cheerful throughout, I reply that that was because so much less dreadful than I had anticipated!
It's now about 4 years since my own diagnosis, and I am just fine. Life is different, but it would be anyway. I just went in a slightly different direction than I would have otherwise.
I just did a cycling/hiking trip to the Olympic Peninsula. Great fun and breathtaking scenery. Determined not to waste a minute of the wonderful life I am able to continue. So a profound sense of gratitude as well. - Claire
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Rhody- sorry you have to go through this but glad to hear you are getting a plan in place. Just keep thinking of your favorite RI beach and imagine yourself in that "happy place" if the going gets rough.
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You are right, Ginger......Block Island here I come! Thanks for the support
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Rhody, I'm glad you got it straightened out finally. It's good you had the Oncotype to find the difference, or maybe you wouldn't have gotten the full treatment you needed. I also recommend getting in touch with the chemo group starting when you do as it helps so much to trudge through with others.
Well my exercise has been sporadic the last few days, even though this is my "good" week before my next treatment. I did go shopping Saturday. I think we count that, right? Sunday I only walked about 10 minutes. Yesterday I tried to weed my flower bed and really pooped out quickly. It's hot and humid and I didn't sleep well the night before so maybe that didn't help.
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Hi all, I've enjoyed reading these posts, they've been really encouraging. I will get my last chemo next Friday (AC/T every 2 weeks x 8). Before chemo I was a fairly fit runner, but since chemo have only done a handful of runs. A week ago I was able to do about 3 miles, albeit at a really slow jog, without too much difficulty, but today, I had to walk most of a 3 mile route. I got chemo on Fri so thinking that it is still my "bad week", and its also really humid here (NC) today, but this was a real downer. Of course I'm worried about heart damage from the adriamycin....Anywho..anyone have similar ups and downs with exercise capacity during chemo? I'm thinking that last week's run was also kind of a fluke (better than expected), so this week's seems even worse in comparison...regardless i am going to keep trying, making myself walk most days at minimum based on your experiences....
Rhody I am from RI and know Block Island well, my best to you, it will go by quicker than expected, be good to yourself in the meantime
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So we saw MO today. Plan is first chemo date is 9/6, the day after we get back from my daughter's wedding. She does not want to wait another week since it will have been 12 weeks since my surgery. Time to start the new chapter....hard to believe that 12 weeks ago we thought it was just DCIS........Now they are telling me that in one of the films they could see this other tumor NEXT to where the needle went in for the original biopsy. Pretty scary, it could have been missed completely. But I keep telling myself that there is too much karma or serendipity going on tha so many things should have been missed but were caught. Getting my head readjusted thanks to all of your encouragement.
Newchallenges, what part of Rhode Island are you from? We lived in Woonsocket when we were first married, and later lived in Greenville. My hubby went to URI.....we now go to Narragansett every year on vacation. Always love it~
Martha
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Chemo was definitely fatiguing. Just the way it goes. So my strength was very diminished when I was done. I have had to work my way slowly back, hence this thread. :-)
Now the challenge is to push my self a little further. I'd like to be in even better shape now, although I do have some last side effects. I went through 5 months of weekly Taxol and that left me with neuropathy in my feet. But better to have slightly numb feet than to be dead. :-)
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Newchallenges, I'm just amazed that you can do 3 miles so soon after a mastectomy and during your chemo. (Applause!!!) There's no comparing the old you and new you when it comes to fitness. Everything we do is a positive step in the right direction. I can't run 3 miles at all, but happy to run 1-2 miles then walk a mile. What's your pace? I've found keeping records helps me celebrate little victories and notice when I'm feeling weaker. (I have pleural effusions and lung tumors, so breathing is hard for me). I use the Nike Running app on my iPhone. I count walking & running in my total. I keep track of my routes, pace per mile and total distance. I'm in the foothills of NC, so there can be a big difference in a 3-mile run, depending on steepness of hills.
Gritgirl, death is usually the greater of two evils, isn't it? :-)
Martha, I am going to applaud you every step of the way on your journey. You won't be alone. You know we are all here. I am glad you can wait until after the wedding to start chemo.
Claire, that hiking/biking trip sounds wonderful! Your picture alone tells me so much about how you approach life. I'm working on my gratitude as well. This wasn't the life I expected but I have so much to love about my life. -
Thanks all for your support and positive vibes!
Tarheel, so true about location/environment affecting stamina. I am in Durham NC, and last week I ran a flat trail, so perhaps that was easier. My current pace is REALLY SLOW, though pre chemo was 10min/mile and maybe better. It is fantastic that you are able to do the running/walking that you are doing w the lung issues, it shows your strength and determination, and the workouts may also help push things in a positive direction physiologically too.
Rhody, I grew up in Cranston, my dad still lives there so I visit often. My best to you on your daughter's wedding day. And regarding the treatments, the anticipation is in many ways worse than the actual. It helped me to remember that millions of others have gone through it, etc, so if they got through we will as well
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