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  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited August 2013

    I mentioned it and I only say that sas, because I couldn't for the life of me remember how it was spelled.  Yay for you......I loved it too....wild color and burned like fire when we were little but you felt safe and were.  I took care of a person for a while that still used it for every little scratch.  The daughter used to say to me.....but that little wand ( used to drag across the would after being dipped in the bottle ) is now contaminated and goes back in the bottle.............and I would say, yes but its ok.  It is can "heal" whatever you drug it across.....it will take care of whatever little remnants get put in a whole bottle of the stuff.  I still chuckle.

    Lilli

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited August 2013

    I was searching this past week for who to contact re: my concerns re: the fraud in the FDA/ NCCAM/NIH group re:Candling. I came across the congressional oversight committees report on the causes of drug shortages in the last few years. Everyone here except the newbies remember the problem of many older chemo drugs either being discontinued or becoming scarce. This report is one of the only government documents that I've read that is readable by the lay public. Government jargon does not exist in this document. It actually could be used in a highschool economics class.

    This document that analyzes the problem will be used for decades of teaching and studying. If you read it, I suggest reading the conclusion first(Pg 21-I think)). The committee summarized three main problems in the conclusion that lead to the fuck ups that were caused by three independent things occurring.

    1. The FDA leadership form 2009 

    2. The passage of the Medicare Moderization Act of 2006

    3. The inability of drug companies to talk to each other before discontinuing a drug or reducing production b/c of monoploy laws.

    The problems won't be able to be corrected for along time. Thank you FDA and the Legislature. Because even if corrections were in place two years ago, the shortages are predicted to go on for years.

    http://oversight.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/6-15-2012-Report-FDAs-Contribution-to-the-Drug-Shortage-Crisis.pdf

  • Chevyboy
    Chevyboy Member Posts: 10,786
    edited August 2013

    Ah Geez Sass!  You must not have ever gone out with an Italian!  I mean their ego is so big that they think they just have to LOOK at a girl, and she will drop at his feet.  So picture this..... he snaps his fingers.....  and points.... YOU know where..... THAT is Italian foreplay.  Kind of loses something when I have to draw a picture....Ha, ha!    It's just a joke!  well, it used to be anyway....Wink

    Lilli..... yes, that's the story..... but it's just men in general I think....

    Cammi!  That was classic!  What you said to your Doc!  Ha, ha!  I remember that, when they did that right in the nipple.... with that nuclear dye!  No mercy!   Now THAT was a bitch!

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited August 2013

    Chevy, dated Italians, and my first intercource was with an Italian, but he was a virgin too. LOL  He was just so happy to have sex, I was still the one in control. So, no experience with what you describe.

  • duckyb1
    duckyb1 Member Posts: 13,369
    edited August 2013

    Don't remember mercurecrome (sp) burning...but iodine was a bitch....that and peroxide..



    .Working in Pharma use to piss me off when they would spend millions on the research of a "me too drug"....,,,,,,it is done all the time.....



    Know from past experience in the industry...new drugs are still full of "bugs" that did not occur in trials......that is why patients and Dr's should always report SE not on the insert ( which 90% of drs and patients do not read) should be reported......l always opt for the older tried and true drug...

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited August 2013

    Mary, your question is absolutely reasonable. Many good suggestions given. I have been a pain control advocate my entire career b/c post polio pain has been with me, basically, my entire life. Through the issues created by my treatments and surgery since 2009, and what Dh went through with his terminal Lymphoma starting just 3 months behind me in 2009, my learning has taken on a different dimension.

    You may or may not of read my past postings about pain control. You are no where in the range of taking too much medicine. But you state your pain is not controlled. Secondly , you recognize that in the future your needs will change. I suggest that you have a consultation with a Palliative Care Specialist(PCS). This is a fairly new subspecialty. It arose out of the recognition that many of the concepts of Hospice could be applied to long term chronic illnesses. One aspect of Hospice Specialists was/is pain control. We also have Pain management Specialist. PCS combines the strengths of the other two specialties.

    It seems as if our MO's and surgeons believe oxycodone is the only pain control drug out there.  It's not. The who, what, when, where, why of drugs for you, I think could be better answered by a Palliative Care Specialist. In a do over it is what I would have done for DH. EDIT: AND myself. EDIT: DUH, I should do it now.

  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited August 2013

    Ducky when I see all these new drugs even on TV comm. and the side effects--)even death may occur)m personally I don;t think enough people have really been on some of these, yes the FDA passed them cuz they met a quota but at what risk to so many, I don't know--to many drugs--Oh and I don't remember murcurachrome (sp) hurting at all or peroxide, I do remember Iodine stinging a little--I think Iodine was a little stronger tho.I used to love peroxide cuz it would bubble right on the sore. hahaha I was amused so easily.

    Chevy u'r right once explained it looses some of the value of the statement, LOL

  • marywh
    marywh Member Posts: 2,280
    edited August 2013

    Sas, my mom was with palative care.Her nurses were really big on morphine, but she needed it. I geuss my big problem is I never thought that I would need them at all. That is one part that I didnt Want to think about. Now that its here, I just have to get my head around that fact.

  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited August 2013

    OK now I opened an account up for Twitter cuz people talk about it all the time--so I have one, now I have no idea what to do with it or how or why to use it. So I'm sure I'll just ignore it.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited August 2013

    Chevy I want to be a GHOST with you........ OH what fun we could have. So, here's the pact which ever one of us goes first we PROMISE to come and get the other one when we die--DEAL?

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited August 2013

    Mary, are you sure we are talking apples to apples. In Hospice the term palliative care was used to describe care for decades. But the terms usage in regard to a Palliative Care Speciallist is different.  Reread my post where it said the concepts of Hospice were seen to be able to be applied to patients with long term chronic illnesses. More specifically long term chronic illnesses that are predictably terminal. WEll, we are all terminal. The difference with a standard Pain Management Specialist is that they don't THINK in terms of eventual mortality. They just think pain. Few if any look at the rest of the patient.

    THE PCS thinks in term of how to best manage the total patient with a long term chronic illness. They are well schooled in all the drugs. They also look at other quality of life issues. Your specific question though deals with pain control. I think and I could be wrong, if you were to see a PCS, a full evaluation of where you are now in your life, would lead to other drug choices and perhaps suggestions on quality of life issues, you hadn't even considered.

    The extension of this is that over time as your needs change, you have a very specifically trained specialist to help you alter your plan. That would give me a definite degree of comfort. Losely similar to my wish that I want my Saint Primary Care Doc to never retire before my need of her is over i.e. she can't retire till i'm dead. LOL

  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited August 2013

    Sas knowing u did u get that in writing? Signed and notarized?

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited August 2013

    Had a PM from Sweet Pea.  I said I would post to you all if she didn't. She's just trying to keep up with everything and hasn't had time to post. She's doing okay with RADS. Misses you all and she will post when she can:)

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited August 2013

    Cami, LOL, I just keep reminding her everytime I see her. Problem is she's 57. SOOOOO, Ima hoping she's one of those that wants to work along time cuz Ima thinking in terms of living along time.

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited August 2013

    OH forgot---Stacey said her BIRTHDAY was yesterday.. SO you folks that can do magic with pics. We have a birthday girl.

    HAPPY BIRTHDAY STACEY !

  • ChickaD
    ChickaD Member Posts: 1,025
    edited August 2013

    Happy Birthday my friend Miss SweetPea!

  • sas-schatzi
    sas-schatzi Member Posts: 19,603
    edited August 2013

    Mary found this web site re:Palliative docs. It describes in detail what I was trying to communicate. It does a better job. It's important to start at the homepage which the link is too, and absorb the info. keeping in mind palliative is now used in different ways.

    http://www.palliativedoctors.org/

  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited August 2013

    738fd6b5 HAPPY BIRTHDAY DAY---HAPPY DANCE

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited August 2013

    Happy birthday Stacey.....Hope it was a wonderful one with a lifetime more on the way.

    Love, Lilli

  • juliaanna
    juliaanna Member Posts: 1,043
    edited August 2013

    Happy, happy Birthday, Miss Sweetpea!!! Wishing you many, many more.

  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited August 2013

    Oh Jackie what a beautiful cake--I want that cake. Yummy.

  • luvmygoats
    luvmygoats Member Posts: 2,942
    edited August 2013

    Stacey - Happy Birthday to You.

    Your fan club wishing you a Happy Bitrhday

  • Spookiesmom
    Spookiesmom Member Posts: 9,568
    edited August 2013

    It's not my birthday, can I have that cake pleeeeeezzzzzzeeee?🎈

  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited August 2013

    Spookie I want it too.   hahahaha

  • luvmygoats
    luvmygoats Member Posts: 2,942
    edited August 2013

    Sassy - I agree with all you have said to Mary. I didn't find much on the AAMPH site. I checked the DO site because our med. directors were DOs. Wow our main doc was only cert. in Internal Med. The other link listed on the AAMPH site goes to the American Board of Medical Spec (ABMS) which does request you register which I did not chose to do. Not sure where I'm leading but unless Mary registers on the ABMS site and gets results the only doc listing was for DOs (not saying anything against them just limited info available it seems). Best bet would be recommendation from personal physician. Can google palliative care doctor charlotte and get hits. Might be a good place to start reading if not necessarily referral to. Like I say "ducks in a row".

    I did get some hits when I googled Ft Worth Tx find palliative care doctors and kinda ones I expected.

    OHHHH yes, cake. I'm drooling. Drinking my green tea with raspberry syrup. Have had a fig, 2 slices Swiss cheese and about 8 wheat crackers since I came in from church.

    On another note, we got the toilets bought yesterday and arranged for installation. BUT this morning the hot water quit just as I finished my shower. Checked all electricals and not that. Must be kaput. DH called back to Lowes and bought hot water heater and it will be installed hopefully Tues.

    I was asking about the cranberry juice for a goat that sadly did not make it. She was 10. It has been a hard year on them and us. No more baby goats. I need to sell Mr. Bucky boy. Not that he isn't happy here but he is very fertile and worth something if I can find him a good home.

    Sassy - enjoying Victor/Victoria on Sundance channel. I watched Sleepless in Seattle for the about 100th time last night.

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited August 2013

    If you are all serving cake, please put me on the list!  Have a blessed week everyone.  Hugs, Peace, Luv and Prayers to ALL to day and everyday in the future.

    Flowers

  • juliaanna
    juliaanna Member Posts: 1,043
    edited August 2013

    Flowers,

    How are you doing?  Recovery going okay?

  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited August 2013

    Oh Luv u'r goat didn't make it---I'm sorry

  • Shellshine
    Shellshine Member Posts: 1,039
    edited August 2013

    I, too, would like a big slice of that yummy cake! Wish I could have you all over for tea.

  • camillegal
    camillegal Member Posts: 16,882
    edited August 2013

    Shellteatotaler---Tea" not Long Island Ice Tea that would go good with cake.

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