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  • Tammy_M43
    Tammy_M43 Member Posts: 980
    edited July 2013

    Alaskamama, great to hear that you're running and keeping focused on the present....here is a favourite quote from the Dalai Lama.....



    “If there is no solution to the problem then don't waste time worrying about it. If there is a solution to the problem then don't waste time worrying about it.”

    Dalai Lama XIV

  • RunFree16
    RunFree16 Member Posts: 856
    edited July 2013

    Alaskamama, thanks for following up.  Score another one for running!  It must be hard to realize you won't have any answers about the bone spot for quite a while.  Even though it wouldn't make a difference in the course of treatment now, knowing would make a difference in your outlook about all this.  I found the uncertainty about the scope of my situation the hardest thing to deal with, and for me some aspects of it lasted several months which was tough.  Shoot, if running makes you happy, keeps you stronger, and hurts no one else, why would anyone question it??!! 

    It's possible Runner's World has a discussion board about running through chemo (not that I want you to stop posting here!).  I know there was something in the magazine recently about a guy who has been running for several years with really tough Stage IV cancer.  I'll try to find it and let you know the month, or post a link.  He had a great attitude and it was a wonderfully upbeat story actually, and lots about the power of running.

  • fredntan
    fredntan Member Posts: 1,821
    edited July 2013

    I am trying to be a runner. mainly fast walking now. did AC and taxol. during my taxol I was able to walk my nieghborhood 2.4 hilly miles. I think I did it daily. made me feel so much better. I wore my workout clothes to chemo. brought a stretchy band thing to do arm stretches-had allready had my sx.

    still on track. been doing my neighborhood as scheduled. am mainly walking. trying to increase this to more running.

    can anyone recommend good cd with good beat to keep me going? I usually listen to internet radio, but no internet on runs

  • lovestorun
    lovestorun Member Posts: 167
    edited July 2013

    Alaska - welcome to this board (it really is a great one!) and so glad running these past few days have helped.  To echo others, listen to your body and do what you need to do to help keep your sanity and to cope so well.

    Cass - if you aren't ready to make an investment on a new one, have you tried doubling up on sportsbras?  I was not able to run through all of radiation, but when I was able to, I wore a seamless stretchy one underneath a supportive one.  The combination worked to stop the jiggle. And I think the seamless underneath helped with irritation a bit too.  I'm now back to just the one supportive one. 

    Congrats RunFree! That's fantastic!  Uber-sweaty humid run here - boy did I feel it afterwards, but grateful to feel so lousy after such a sweatfest!

  • alaskamama
    alaskamama Member Posts: 91
    edited July 2013

    yes, this is a great board! tammie, i do like that dalai lama quote. fredndtan, it is only a small hop from fast-walking to running, but really it's all good if you get out, get moving and feel good. i'm scheduled for second AC this wednesday, will keep you all posted on whether i'm able to run through chemo as i hope! been running about an hour a day the past four days and feel great but don't want to get too cocky, you never know what's coming.

    keep it up, everyone.... :)

  • firstcall
    firstcall Member Posts: 499
    edited July 2013

    alaskamama -As far as running during chemo - I ran all the way through.  I was determined that I would not change my life any more than I had to.  You can run through chemo, and it is very helpful for your mental health, as well as physical health.  I found a couple of things, however.  I lost speed.  By the end of chemo, it was everything I could do to run a 15 minute mile.  I was generally running 9 minute miles before chemo.  The other thing I would mention, is that I lost most of my toenails.  It wasnt really a problem, and they grew back.  I think you should stay as active as possible.  

  • sandpiper1
    sandpiper1 Member Posts: 952
    edited September 2014

    FC, You can add 2 more events for me.

    Sept. 29-The Richard S. Caliguiri City of Pittsburgh Great Race (10k)

    Nov. 3- EQT Pittsburgh 10miler

    TY.

    Have been busy working and did some extra shifts last week, which did not leave me any time for my runs.

    Back at it today and did 3 miles through the "hood".

    Nice to see everyones reports.

    Happy Running/walking/moving that body!

    xoxoxoxoxo

    piper

    :)

  • ahdjdbcjdjdbkf
    ahdjdbcjdjdbkf Member Posts: 645
    edited July 2013

    I disappeared for a spell. I had to have my right implant removed due to infection. You think no boobs is bad until you have no hair. You think lymphedema is a fashion challenge until you have one boob...and so much more. Ugh. I'm wearing a sleeve today. I was careful at the hospital that they knew about my lymphedema. Beyond that I haven't been doing much of anything and gratefully it stayed pretty stable. Back on the sleeve today. These surgeries are so majorly messing up my workouts! I won't be running for a long time as I'm headed for a latissimus dorsi flap. I can walk a little in the meantime starting Friday.

  • RunFree16
    RunFree16 Member Posts: 856
    edited July 2013

    Mariasnow, you have been through a lot!  I would think it would be hard to keep the faith sometimes.  I hope you heal up fast and can enjoy walking for now.  Do you know when your next surgery will be?

  • fredntan
    fredntan Member Posts: 1,821
    edited July 2013

    I was running/walking today after work. had my sleeves and gauntlets on. felt my fingers swell some. they felt tight. it was very hot and muggy. I kept going. wanted to quit but my running partner wouldn't let me. what if anything can I do different? I don't want to get LE. I raised my arms up and opened and closed my fingers a lot.

    any ideas? and after i run, should a wait a few hours before taking off sleeve? I only wear during exercize.

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited July 2013

    Good vibes for mariasnow! Hang in there!

    fredntan, I think a lot of people get swollen hands / fingers running and it's not just LE. I had it before, and have it sometimes now. However due to all this LE experience, I ruminate about it being LE, even though it is no different than it was before. I do the same as you did, raising arms, pumping the fists. I also did one long run wearing red spandex past-the-elbow opera gloves (part of the run outfit) and discovered it felt great! They had very slight compression (as well as flair and panache!!) and by the midpoint of the run I soaked my hands in water from the water stations with the gloves on and they really added coolness. The only complication was getting them off for the bathroom stop, but that did not outweigh the cool-hand comfort. I haven't used them for regular outings but I wouldn't hesitate to wear again. 

  • ahdjdbcjdjdbkf
    ahdjdbcjdjdbkf Member Posts: 645
    edited July 2013

    Thanks RunFree. I will keep the faith. A good friend of mine was very sick with Hep-C for about 2 years. I saw her today and she looks awesome! She is doing the best running of her life, feels great, got new boobs - lost so much weight during treatment her poor boobs caved in, and she was smiling. She reminded me how she came out the other side and that I can too - even after a long marathon recovery. I will try to keep the faith and enjoy each day. In the meantime, I'm investing some energy in improving the quality of my food intake to stay strong!

  • Tammy_M43
    Tammy_M43 Member Posts: 980
    edited July 2013

    Mariasnow, you are a positive inspiration! Enjoy the healthy eating....

  • RunFree16
    RunFree16 Member Posts: 856
    edited July 2013

    Mariasnow, it is really inspiring to hear about your friend running and doing so well after Hep C!  Thank you for that.  It's great that you're focusing on quality food and staying positive.  I hope you'll feel free to gripe whenever you need to.

  • ahdjdbcjdjdbkf
    ahdjdbcjdjdbkf Member Posts: 645
    edited July 2013

    I'm focusing on what I can do and not what I can't - keeping my eye on the goal to get strong and back to running before the end of the year. I pray all goes well with this surgery and I'm back in business!

  • alaskamama
    alaskamama Member Posts: 91
    edited July 2013

    Mariasnow, good luck... I'm just starting this adventure (diagnosed in June with stage 3 breast cancer), had my second AC infusion this week. For 4-5 weeks after diagnosis there was a lot of travel (I live in AK), tests, decisions, packing and relocating myself and my kids, and general disruption along with a few naysaying nurses who shook my confidence ... and my running began to flag. Then my energy and morale began to flag. Finally last week I realized I had to hit the running hard and it helped so much. I'm grateful for this board with everyone's positive energy and just wanted to throw some back and let you know I am cheering for you.

  • alaskamama
    alaskamama Member Posts: 91
    edited July 2013

    And I neglected to say thank you, Firstcall, for the inspiration. So glad to hear you ran through chemo, toenails or no!

  • ahdjdbcjdjdbkf
    ahdjdbcjdjdbkf Member Posts: 645
    edited July 2013

    Well done alaskamama. Every workout I was able to do during treatment was a major boost for me. I did go to hard at a few points and I do believe it backfired on me. I just could not recover for like a week. My bloodcounts being low or something just wouldn't let me recover. But that was my path. I always tend to think I'm different or special with everything and I do things my own way. :-)

    I did a bit of walking around at an outdoor shopping plaza today - most activity since surgery. Tomorrow and Sunday I will strap on my running shoes and get out and walk at a good clip in my running gear to keep the spirit alive.

  • goldlining
    goldlining Member Posts: 1,178
    edited July 2013

    My neighbourhood has been taken over by a 4-day music festival - my car ain't moving, or I'll lose my street parking space. With running on hold for work deadlines, the festival is a good excuse for a 4km round trip walk to a cafe to work in, and probably again tomorrow. Much better to at least be outside a little bit.

  • sandpiper1
    sandpiper1 Member Posts: 952
    edited September 2014

    checking in-Long run yesterday 5.25 miles in 70 min. Went smoother than I imagined it would. A little light rain toward the end was welcome! This next week will be a light one and a 5K on Sat. which I am now confident I can run the entire 3 miles ;) I am enjoying working on my endurance and with time will see how my pace can improve a smidge.

    Hugz to snow and AKmom.

    Prior to surgery, I would frequently get swollen fingers/hands with walking. I haven't had much of that this summer with my walking or running. I do move my fingers a lot while jogging and I think keeping my arms up while doing either activity has helped. Only had one node removed and have had no issues with any other swelling.

    Time to get ready for work. Have a wonderful week everyone.

    xoxoxoxoxo

    Piper

  • CassDugan
    CassDugan Member Posts: 100
    edited July 2013

    Yes, I'll get swollen hands on a day hike but not on a run. I don't know if it's more arm movement or that I don't run for the length of time that I'll hike.



    Sounds like a great run, Sandpiper1!

  • Titan
    Titan Member Posts: 2,956
    edited July 2013

    sign me up for 5K Step up for Stefanie Spielman Sept 15 in Columbus, Ohio...I ran it last year with my son and met Chris Spielman...what a nice, nice man....

    Haven't been on here for awhile...keep up the running ladies and enjoying all the tips...I need them...had to laugh about eating after a race...I'm always simply starving....before a race I usually have a banana, granola bar...and a couple sips of coffee..yes coffee....especially those early am races...I need it

    Love this thread...

  • Rdrunner
    Rdrunner Member Posts: 309
    edited July 2013

    I always have a coffee before my run lol, its the elixer of life !!!. my long run is now up to 12k and running between 6.5 and 8 k the other 4/6 times a week. Feeling good enough i think to add a speed session and or a hill session. My last radiation is tomorrow and im starting to get sore so might have to take this week off so i dont chaff. Anyway great to see everyone getting out there, every little bit counts and you will see improvements over time. Im so happy that I am still able to run after all the treatment and surgery.. it has given rejuvenated me or re newed my passion for running. Im getting the best runners highs these days something I hadnt had for a long time ( Im a long time runner). 

    For those just starting out and or new runners.., stick with it before you know it it will be second nature and you will see and reep the benefits!!!!

  • CassDugan
    CassDugan Member Posts: 100
    edited July 2013

    Sadly, I think my running is over until rads are done 8/17. Even doubling up on sports bras doesn't bind me tightly enough. The bra recommendation above looks great but is rather pricy for an item I'll need for only three weeks. I tried easing back into my upper body weights - that's not happening either. Ah well, at least I can still do long walks.

  • Rdrunner
    Rdrunner Member Posts: 309
    edited July 2013

    hey Cass you will enjoy it even more when you get back to it.  is cycling an option ? Nothing wrong with walking either.. enjoy

  • fredntan
    fredntan Member Posts: 1,821
    edited August 2013

    is walking just as good as running. i have tried this running thing. it makes my knees and feet hurt. makes bakers cyst hurt. am going to continue training for half K mainly walking. I can walk whole thing if I need too.



    am currently on vacation. my diet is horrible. havnt had veggie in days. my schedule is way off. i need kale:-)

  • alaskamama
    alaskamama Member Posts: 91
    edited August 2013

    Fredntan: regarding whether walking is as good as running, I think it depends what you're looking for. The research I've read on benefits of exercise say moderate excercise, which includes walking, is generally all that's needed to confer all kinds of benefits (boost immune system, ward off depression and weight gain, etc...). For me, I get kind of a runner's high that I don't quite find from walking, but that's more psychological--and I have to fight my tendency to "let the perfect be the enemy of the good" (like this past week, I haven't run for a week and instead of walking I do nothing!). But if running causes physical pain then stick with walking.

    It looks like our diagnoses are similar--I'm stage IIIa (hopefully... won't know for sure until post-chemo MRI if I have a bone metastasis or just wierd thing on my left scapula), right beast and lymph nodes, grade 2, ER+/PR+/HER2-. I'm doing chemo (ACT) but before surgery. My oncologist doesn't think we'll see big response but the docs leaned toward neoadjuvant chemo in hopes of getting clearer margins in surgery. I was diagnosed in June after I found a lump in my armpit. Big shock as I have exactly no risk factors, am 42 and the "never-sick-a-day" type. Oh well, shit happens!

    I will run tomorrow!!!!


  • sandpiper1
    sandpiper1 Member Posts: 952
    edited September 2014

    Fran, I have been an avid walker all of my life and have been able to walk 11 and 12 minute miles. If you are moving your body-you are doing way more than so many others.

    I have challenged myself to run. I do not know how long I may keep up with it, but so far, I just keep on keeping on. ;)

    This venture has taken me months and months of conditioning and as anyone here will tell you-take it slow.

    That said I am checking in with today's 5K results............35:29!

    My first mile was around 11:30, the 2nd mile I was stoked because I saw I was coming in a little under 24 min. My problem was the 3rd mile, I got a stitch in my right upper side which was making it hard for me to take a deep breath...but still happy with my time as my goal was 36minutes :)

    I was not last and I managed to shave 3 minutes off of my last timed race. This little turtle just kept moving.

    I loved the atmosphere and spirit of the runners and walkers. All ages and sizes. A young guy set a new race record at 14:30. Holy crap those guys were flying!

    I ran into some of the people I spoke with at the start. Some did much better than they thought they would. The coolest part was toward the end There were a couple of guys struggling to keep running and in fact I passed them at my measily pace ;) A runner who had finished was trotting back through and encouraging the remainder of the troups. A few minutes later I hear a man's voice coaching another runner. The 2 guys pass me and it is one of the men who was struggling at the back and the other man who was encouraging us. He got that guy to keep pace with him, pass the lot of us and cross the finish. I was so inspired by the 2 of them running together.

    The sense of community was unbelievable. What was even cooler was this event raises money for the patients at the retirement/nursing home community. Many of whom were sitting on their balconies and outside cheering us on. The local football team volunteered and pushed patients in a part of the course.

    They had a Jazz band, food and beer afterwards and lot's of medals passed out for every age group you can imagine.

    Gold-they did have a cool shower which I breezed through.

    I am so happy I went today-and I went by myself too. HAHA!

    XOXOXOXOXOXOXO

    TY for all of the encouragement

    Piper

  • Morningsun1
    Morningsun1 Member Posts: 649
    edited August 2013

    Good for you, piper! I will join you on your next one here in PGH. Maybe we should get a team for the Mother's Day Komen event. My 5k time 8 years ago was a little over 33 minutes. Cheers!

  • Tammy_M43
    Tammy_M43 Member Posts: 980
    edited August 2013

    Piper, congrats! The mind's determination is just as important as the body in the quest to keep moving..... You are an inspiration....



    Firstcall, please add me to your list for The Sydney Running Festival on 22 September, it has everything from a marathon to a 3.5K fun run....I'm only going to do the 3.5K fun run this time as I'm still not 100% yet....but I am trying and I am even seeing an exercise physiologist now to see if I can get my body in tune, I'll go for speed this race :-)



    Fran, I've always been a walker, in fact my husband and I are on holidays in Europe at the moment and we are walking 10-15K per day...it is a great exercise and a good 1st step to running if you feel like you want to try again later...

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