2013 Running Thread

sandpiper1

Excuse my typos. late-one eyed wonder who hunts and pecks.

Nighty folks

RunFree16

Thanks Goldlining, I know I was being vague rather than just linking back to your prior post!  Lovestorun, I hope things get better soon, whatever you do about the swelling.  Sandpiper, conjunctivitis would stop me from doing anything!  I had that a few years ago and it was one of the few things that's caused me to take a day off work.  I am astonished that you'd type much less run in that scenario!  But once you get the medicine it heals fast.  Hope you're on the mend.

Morningsun1

I am going for one hour of slow jogging after work today. I tell everyone here, so I won't talk myself out of it

Morningsun1

I did my slow jogging for 52 minutes. At the end, my legs were like those of a windup toy, won't stop moving forward, so I walked with "auto powered" legs, effortlessly for 10 whole minutes. may try it again tomorrow.

goldlining

Yay TammyT -- 52 minutes is great! The "auto-power" is absolutely what I feel too. At the start, I will crab and complain to myself: my socks are bunchy, one shoe is sighter than the other, my pants are falling down, I should have had one more snack, ... If I am too close to home, it could end there. Run events with medals for bait are one solution, otherwise I have to be where the route gets me away past that point and into the auto-power endorphin zone. My brother runs 2-3km around his local park and doesn't enjoy running. I tell him, that's 'cause you keep running the worst part and never get to the good part! Happy running!

sandpiper1

AWESOME T!! Just awesome!!!!!

Runfree-TY

Doc appt tomorrow to check the eye. Now I feel stupid because I think it may be viral not bacterial.

I have also developed a lovely case of laryngitis.

I slept half the day away. I tried to run. Did about a mile n a half and walked 1.

It was just so beautiful this evening I couldn't pass the chance to be outside.

FC....how was your marathon??

Have a good night and lovely WED.

xoxoxo

piper

firstcall

I think I have the calendar updated. If I missed anyone, post it again and I'll get it on the calendar. 

I've been busying myself at work.  Today I saw the child who I delivered 5 days after my mx.   She is now 19 months old.  She was 10# 1 oz at birth.  

Last week I hosted another marathon/half marathon.  It went well, but one of my volunteers was ill, so I didnt get to run, I had my hands full running the event. We had about 100 people, mostly from around here, but we had several of the runners come from out of state, even from Canada.  

I love reading everyones posts, I need to try to post more regularly, I've let myself get wrapped up at work.  I've been running about every other day, usually about 7-8 miles, and biking or swimming on the other days.  

Hope everyone is doing well

Morningsun1

Thanks for posting my run, firstcall, I should have given you more details about it. It is the NOCC (National Ovarian Cancer Coalition) Pittsburgh Chapter's 13th Annual 5 Mile Run.

Piper, sorry to hear your troubles. Will pm you about meeting up. goldlining, happy running to you too!

Quesdtion for you experienced runners: towards the end of my slow jogging yesterday, the ball of my right foot started to hurt (it's gone after a short rest). Left foot was fine. I was wearing my brand new running shoes. Is this a problem with the shoe or am I doing something wrong? Thanks!

Happy hump day!

Anonymous

Dear running girls

Can I join this thread? I used to run a lot.  I stopped nearly completely, thinking I was ruining my knees and didn't want a knee replacement (I'm 54).  So I thought to replace it with a lot of bikram yoga. Then I was dx with bc...and kept doing the yoga, but stopped running. I realized that 1) tamoxifen and permanent chemo-pause seems to be causing me some weight gain and 2) I miss running. I want to add it back into my weekly atheletic regime.  I just recovered from a BMX and recon, and I ran a little bit last week to see how it felt. It felt GREAT-and the new girls don't bounce around anymore either

I'm having some left hip issues--hiking a lot causes some achyness upon movement later, so I'm wondering if anyone else has this, what you do about it, and what you think it's from. Sometimes I feel like an old lady with all these joint issues, but I'm going to go for a short slow run today in our forest lands and see how it feels.

Does adding running help any of you keep your weight down? I'm lean, but don't like the trend that I'm seeing !

Claire in AZ

Tammy_M43

Firstcall, thanks for adding my run on 22 September :-). It will keep me focused....

coraleliz

Claire- could your achiness be sciatica? I get it occasionally. It tends to come & go for me.

I'm going to run this evening. I'm on the west coast, so I've got plenty of time. I've been battling plantar facitis for about  1 1/2 years. It was finally getting better & I picked a day to start running. Wouldn't you know, I woke up that morning with 2 sore knees. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.......... Well at least I know running didn't cause it! I've run gingerly a few times & it doesn't seem to be making my knees worse. There is a local 5K, 10K, & run/swim on Sunday but I don't trust my self not to push too hard. Will probably volunteer.

goldlining

Welcome claireinaz! Oftentimes what "feels like" bony pain for me turns out to be relieved with the foam roller or physio. A foam roller is usually great for my hip and IT band. (I'm meaning the 24" long 6" diameter one you lie on and roll along, not the stick one - I have one of those but don't have the arm strength to make anything happen with that.) In my case, the pain invariably traces back to weak small muscles. One thing leads to another and things get leaning this way or that, and other muscles and ligaments are doing more than their proper job.

Obviously, yours could be something different than mine, but don't give it up without a fight - a sports medicine physio will be particularly oriented to keeping you running if possible, rather than talking you out of it. Happy running!

RunFree16

Claireinaz, how exciting that you're getting back into running!  I second goldlining's advice about the foam roller and a good sports physical therapist (maybe not precisely the same as a physio in Canada?).  I have a hip issue that flares up sometimes, in my case from a mild spinal curvature.  Through lots of PT, I now have a good sense of what's too tight when my hip acts up and how to stretch to counteract the problem.  There's more I could do, but it's under control.  Also, about using running to lose weight:  if you don't have a lot to lose, there's a sweet spot where you're running enough to burn calories, but not so much that you're hungrier.  When I trained for the Disney marathon, I was so hungry that I gained weight, about 5-7 pounds, and I haven't taken them all off although that was now a year and a half ago.  (I've read that it's not uncommon for first-time marathoners, especially women of a certain age who start out normal weight, to gain weight during the training--I was NOT pigging out on chocolate cake, just trying to keep fueled.  But I didn't know that was a risk going into it or I would have thought twice!) I seem to be able to lose weight best when I run about 2-4 miles maybe 3-4 days a week, and walk a couple of other days, and also do some weightlifting a couple of days (I love Nautilus, but free weights work too).  And count calories, which I nerdily enjoy.

Morningsun1

I did my slow run for 53 minute and covered close to 4.5 miles. I am very sore but happy I did it. See you tomorrow piper!

Anonymous

Thank you runners for the welcome and the advice!  I ran yesterday--not long, about 18 min, but it worked out to be about 1.5 miles, which made me happy.  I woke up this a.m. and found that my hip/s (usually one, sometimes both) aren't any more achy than they were before I ran, and I went to bikram last night too...so I am going to work slowly back into running using RunFree's suggestions, which sound most like what I can do.

I weight lift 2x a week and do a lot of hiking; this Sat I am walking 7 miles up our Mountain from 7000 feet to 9600 feet for our annual Cancer Society fundraiser (I do it every year).  I wish I could run part of it, but I'll save that goal for next year   I also go to bikram yoga 3x a week. Running seems to be the natural addition to a cross-training regime.

Yep, I've had sciatica from time to time, and taking tamoxifen seems to exacerbate my hip issues.  I found that a good pair of shoes really helps all that, I and I think it's time to get a new pair.  The foam roller and p.t. both sound like really good  ways to keep me on the trails!

Will be running again today...slowly, like a shuffle, but it's the doing of the thing, right? I love running in our woods, I feel so free.

Hugs

Claire

moni731

Hello everyone! Long time lurker, first time poster. I am seeking some advice/help from you guys, if I may. My story: I ran all through school, but d/t a couple of skiiing accidents, had to have my ACL's redone 2x each. I gave up running, and started walking, average 25 miles/week. 21/2 years ago dx'd with 2B IDC. Major difficulties with chemo leading to multiple severe allergic reactions, septic shock x5, 8 mo in hospital, CHF, renal failure, and exacerbation of existing asthma to severe now. I have recovered mostly now and in November of last year I decided to try running again. I try to run 5 or so days a week, and do Vinyasa and Yin yoga two days weekly. Amazingly enough, I am not having a problem with my knees! (well, not much more than normal and nothing advil doesn't fix) Anyway, my problem is I can not seem to increase my distance at all. I manage about three miles a day, walking some as I live in the foothills and there is little flat land. Due to fires in the area, breathing is tough some times, but that is not always the problem. It just seems that my whole body gives out. I am very careful about diet and consume enough protein (vegetarian), so I am not sure that is the issue either. I know the Dr's said I would have some residual organ damage, and wonder if that is it. They are of no help as they are happy I am alive, and do not support my goal.  Has anyone here had this problem? Does anyone have any suggestions? I had dreams of doing a marathon one day, but at this rate, that seems unlikely. Thank you in advance for any help.

wing48

Hello everyone - I'm a complete newbie. I just had my surgery a month ago and I start chemo next Wed A/C followed by T.  I had a tissue expander put in by my plastic surgeon and he's not about to let me run yet - said another 7 weeks!

Anyone else get that kind of push back?

I've still been walking at a pretty fast clip - mostly outside but when I'm on the treadmill I try to keep in at 4.5 mph.

Were any of you able to power through A/C and run? I've run half marathons in the past and my goal is to run the Marine Corps Half Marathon mid-May 2014.

Am I fooling myself? I know the A/C is going to knock me on my butt but that finishes up late October. And with weekly Taxol treatments I'm told it won't be AS bad. So I'll be all done by mid-January IF everything goes smoothly.

fredntan

wing I sent you pm.



i am restarting my training sunday. my vacation messed me up. got to get back on my near vegan diet, and resume training. had amazing time. did the southwest-zion etc. lots of hiking. am still on vegas time. lazy

Anonymous

Hi wing48,

I was kind of flattened by AC (still made it to the gym regularly and to bikram yoga 2-3x a week) but I can tell you that my husband and I speed-hiked 45" after every Taxol tx, and I had 12 of them weekly. It wasn't really hard at all, I felt like I could have run those miles we hiked at times. I hope your experience is similar or better!

Claire

wing48

I'm hoping not to be half dead the entire time I'm on AC. If I can start running again after the New Year (and AC if all goes well will be done in October) that should get me enough time to at least trot the half marathon. I'm not going to go for any land-speed records, but I so want to participate.

Thanks for the helpful answers.

Linda

goldlining

Welcome moni731. You have been through the wringer! All of that is way beyond my experience, but I know that all those many years when I couldn't run, it was because I was going too fast. I made this discovery when I got the Nike+ and I could see there was a magic pace where I could keep going and going, but if I went above it, I was done. After my DIEP, I was dismayed to have a setback in my pace. I could run to the same heart rate, but I was not moving as fast. Your 3 miles / 5 km outings aren't bad at all but I can relate to wanting to do the occasional long run / event. My 2c is give yourself more slack on the pace and see how far you can get. (The other thing that limits me is just being bored with the scenery. I cannot do long runs around home. Just can't.)

lovestorun

Welcome to all the new people!  And congrats to all of you who have been posting updates. 

A quick thank you to those of you who offered suggestions re: the achiness / swelling. I'm trying different methods of support and will see if one of them works and solves the problem.  Advil, ice packs and stretching my arm over my head at intervals during the day seem to be helping too.  

For all of you who have runs or walks or run/walks planned for the weekend - enjoy!

Morningsun1

After two days of slow jogging, I had some knee pain yesterday. It got to the point I had a hard time walking late afternoon. Called my PCP and she told me to take Motrin or Ibuprofen. Took a 800mg Ibuprofen at 5:30PM, the pain stopped 9:00PM (3 and half hour later), just like that. Took two Motrin early in the AM, no knee pain yet. I am taking it easy for the weekend just in case. Have a good weekend!

alaskamama

WING: I am partway through AC chemo (three of four down!) and still running but it's off and on. I seem to have a pattern where the first week I can't motivate to do much. My nadir counts are low and then after that first week I feel better, eat more, and run again. I am convinced my white blood counts really respond and that pushing myself in my AC recovery week is worth it. The emotional boost is huge too.

I'm trying to not "judge" my running (a year ago I won the women's masters half marathon in my town and was running massive mountain runs and now I am totally gimpy!!!)... but the judgment only demotivates me. So I'm going by time and have no idea of my distance or speed, just trying to do some combo or running and walking for an hour.

To CLAIRE et al: Yes, just try it. Naysaying docs be damned, I really think they are missing the boat on this one. Excercise is the absolute best cure for whatever ails us physically and emotionally.

Good luck, all...

goldlining

It took everything I had but I pushed to beat the 2:00 for 15K, and finished at 1:59:34.

It was not a great run event. Huge lines for the ferry both going and afterwards (waiting an hour for a ferry is so NOT what you want after 2 hours running), completely incompetent marshalling on the course (high school students talking to each other instead of marshalling) with the result that there were general public walking, cycling, longboarding, riding 6-seater surrey bikes, pushing strollers and so on across and through the field of runners. It's a nuisance for everyone, but for a deaf runner, it's treacherous. It was really nice scenery, but I found myself distracted and distressed, and did not really enjoy myself. I was very pleased with the time given my training though, and some light runs for the next two weeks and I should be all okay for Disneyland.

Happy runs everyone.

LuvLuLu

Shaved a minute off my best 8 mile time this morning. I am thrilled! As runners you will understand . . .everybody else just kinda rolls their eyes.  It was perfect weather, I felt great, no pit stops necessary, it was all good. Have a great day, all!

wing48

I "only" have 4 AC to go through and (without issues) should be done in October. Then I start the 12 weeks of T.

Am I being naive in thinking that I can start "training" for the May half marathon in January? I understand the weekely T is not as awful as AC in general.

I mean, I know this is going to greatly impact my life, I just don't want it to STOP it. Still need to live.

Martie1228

Wing, Just read your first post. You'll breeze through it!!! I'm just hoping to get back to my Pilates Reformer class soon... and walking every day (30 minutes). Just sayin'!!!

Anonymous

Hi running ninjas,

Since last week I've run 4 times and did the ACS fundraiser (7 mile walk from 7000 feet to 9600 feet) in 2 hrs 20 min.  I feel GREAT!!!!!  I'm so glad I went back to running, albiet a slow shuffle at times.

I'm hoping to do a two-miler this week. My hips don't hurt any more than they did before I ran, and my knees feel great too.

Wondering if you all could, when you can, post some recommendations about shoe types, etc. etc.  I may be opening up a whole new discussion but what do you think about running in those toe shoes? I've never liked the way they looked (they look like hobbit feet to me!) but some of my university students who run swear by them. I trail run, mostly.  There's also a barefoot sandal I've seen used a lot and wonder about it.

Thanks for this thread. I like to check in here and get inspired as much as I can. 

XO

Claire, new running fool

fredntan

Did pisspoor on my run walk this am. Didnt make it two miles. I havnt been feeling right lately. Tomorrow is another day