Starting Chemo February 2013
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Tangles - sorry to hear you're still feeling icky. I've been mostly feeling better - except for the nighttime pain from the TE.
But today I took a 2 hour nap! Go figure.
Went to a Lymphedema PT today. Good news : no evidence of LE right now. Bad news: cording in my L arm, so I get to figure out how to fit in 6 or so PT visits.
Oh - and my nails are getting worse again? Can't figure that one out . . .
Meeting with RO Wednesday. So much for a relaxing summer. -
McKatherine I had the cording and after lots of massaging and stretching most of it went away! Good luck with it! THe TE are HORRIBLE. The implants are much softer but mine seem to really pull and give me pain everyday. Someways I wish I would have just chosen no reconstruction:-(
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Went to my 2 hour Rad apt today. I asked the Dr what % of her patients have TE in for Rads and what % have implants in and she said 50%. She said there is no right or wrong just the PS choice of doing things. I thought that was interesting. She said back in the day no one would ever Rad over an implant but now things have improved so it is being done all the time. She also gave me the good news that I will NOT need Rads under the armpit like I thought I would. Just the breast. This will give me much less chance of lymphdemia. Something else interesting. I asked why there are two women I personally know that had stage 3 BC and I have stage2 and I need Rads but they didn't. She said then they were not her patients. She said in her eyes anyone with a stage 3 would benefit from Rads. For me my tumor was very tiny and only one node positive but the darn pre cancer cells were everywhere so that is why I have to do 33 Rads. I thought it was 30 but she said 33. UGH Will be done in Oct. Seems so far off:-(
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Pathology came back from MD Anderson and it was Metaplastic Breast Cancer with chondroid and some squamous features.
It also noted that this type would respond well to platinum based chemo which I had some of (the carboplatin in the TCH). Better diagnosis than chondrosarcoma as the MBC is a breast carcinoma not a bone sarcoma in the breast. Overall all, good news. Now if I can only get the insurance to sign off on the IMRT radiation so my irradiated fake boobies will look nice...
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good news Heidi!!!!!
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Glad you got some good news Heidi
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Hi Ladies! I hope you don't mind me butting in here, but wondered if you any of you could answer a question for me. I just finished my last chemo 2 weeks ago and find that I am feeling completely worn out. I hoped that knowing the chemo part of treatment was behind me and I was moving on would lift me up but I find that I am at the lowest point right now. I had moments of being tired throughout treatment, but had good spirits and continued to work. I have missed work for the past two days and tonight when I attempted to make supper had a complete melt down as it totally overwhelmed me to even think about the effort it would take. (my husband is the best, reassured me and made dinner). Anyways - my question for you all is
How long after you finished chemo did your energy levels start to rise?
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Johnete, For me I wondered if they gave me a triple dose of chemo on the last round. Seriously!!! Your chemo was different then mine so someone that had your same drugs might be able to answer better. I am probably not the best one to answer as I had surgery 4 weeks after chemo so that knocked me back down. I complained to my MO at 4 wks PFC that I was still feeling crappy and she said it can take 8 to 12 weeks to get out of your system. For me she is right. It has now been 9 weeks PFC and I feel pretty good until the evenings, then that chemo headache comes on and I start to crash!! My toes did not go numb until I was a few weeks PFC so I am dealing with the foot pain also. I also have a lot of pain from the surgery, back and chest and arm pain. I was so discouraged because I was reading on this board how much better everyone else was doing, and felt something must be wrong with me! My Dr said get off the computer and heal at your own pace. Still discouraging. I refused any meds for anxiety and depression my entire chemo as I knew it would get better after I was done. Well it didn't. My hubby could not take my daily tears so we talked about it and I started a med for it this past Monday. I still have 33 Rads to go and I have not worked since Jan 1st due to how hard chemo and surgeries were on me. Don't expect too much too soon. Chemo/poison really takes a toll on your body and I think for some of us we don't bounce right back. Everyone is different.
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Johnetta,
You're probably really sick of hearing this but everyone is diffirent..... not only in the treatments we get but how they effect us. I only did the 12 weeks of taxol with herceptin (which I'm still getting) so I didn't start with the really tough chemo.... but my fatigue was much worse towards the end... and my emotions really started kicking in PFC.....
It was totally weird, I am a very emotional person and have been on zoloft for years because of panic attacks.... then I get cancer and become this numb calm robot..... very few tears, no panic attacks, and no real emotional problems from bad mammogram thru rads..... but once I'm all done with most of the treatments (surgery, bad chemo, and rads) I started getting nervous and worrying about everything..... go figure.... and I swear at times I was just exhausted by the emotional crap..
Bottom line, give yourself an break.... you body AND mind has been through an unbelievable amount but it will get better..
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After my last chemo I literaly shuffled and staggered when I walked. I just muscled my way through the day and would be wiped out and in pain from head to toe by the end of the day. It was week 4 before I began to notice an improvement. I then had a double mastectomy with reconstruction and that set me back some but even then I could tell my body was recovering. One thing I did that helped a lot was I began exercising again after the chemo. It wasn't much. Just a very slow, short walk on the treadmill - sometimes only 10 or 15 minutes, whatever I could do without falling over - but I always felt better afterwards. I could see my body improving as each day I could walk a little longer and faster. I'm about 8 weeks post chemo now and I'm nowhere near "normal" but I definitely feel better and am more functional. I was seriously dragging by the time I finished grocery shopping yesterday but before I would have been dragging when I got there.
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Tangles< How are the antidepressants working? Maybe now you can get a little emotional relief and then the body will follow. Stress and emotional well being definitely play a role in how our body responds. Good luck! I hope you feel better.
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Heidi I have only been taking them a few days so no big difference yet. It was huge for me to give in and take something like that I swore I would never. I think my poor hubby was going to go crazy if I didnt get my emotions in gear so I think I am doing it for him as much as me. I went to an exercises session for cancer patients today and am thinking tomorrow maybe I will go to the gym and try and ride the bike. Even if its just for 15 min. Walking is no good for me as I have pretty painful feet. I have been really trying harder to do all my stretches for my sore chest and I think that is helping too. ONE DAY AT A TIME!!!
Oh and I am finally starting to see fuzz on my head. IT ABOUT TIME!!
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tangles - I hope the meds are the turning point for you.. that and the little exercise - i hate exercise but know I have to do a little everyday-even if its only 10-15 minutes..
you are right - one day at a time!
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Thank you ladies. I think I have been expecting too much of myself too soon. You all are great. It is so wonderful to have a "support group" of people who actually "get it"
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Johnetta I was on the same regimen as you. I had 4 treatments but some have done 6. I started to feel better about 4 weeks out and it got alot better then 2 weeks into rads I got tired again and am still trying to get my energy back. It was like a tease!
Tangles glad to hear your fuzz is coming in, you'll be seeing growth in no time now.
I'm 5 weeks out from radiation and I still feel so much fatigue I'm starting to get mad
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Johnetta,
My last chemo was rough also. On my last chemo, I developed a weird type of neuropothy on the bottom of my feet and the tips of my fingers which still has not gone away. On the bottom of my feet, just past my toes, my feet are completely numb - and it has been that way since around May 15 (my last chemo was May 22). During the prior chemos, the numbness would always go away before the next chemo. My last chemo was also the most tiring, but knowing I was finished helped.
Tangles,
I have not had any problems with Herciptin, but like your doctor said, everybody is different with their healing. When I was on my last couple of chemos, there was a girl there who was taking chemo every week. On her next to last chemo, her hair started growing back, even though she was taking a strong regimen of chemo. I remember thinking why can't my hair grow back?? Now I after a good 8 weeks after chemo, my hair is just starting to come in - fuzzy fuzzy hair.
I take Effexor XR and have been for a long time. I started out taking it for insomia and hot flashes years ago. Since January, I have been taking it religiously - I think it is the best stuff ever. It does take about 3 weeks to begin to feel the effects of Effexor.
Heidi - What fantastic news!!!! That is good good news. I am almost finished with my radiation - I had my first "boost" treatment of today. I am having 8 of them and it is where they shoot "photons" into the exact area where my tumor was. I swear I feel like I am radioactive. But I finish next Friday, August 2 - can't wait.
I hope we all stay on this board till we get our lives back to some sense of normal. It is a tremendous support.
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Kkmom do you just have the numbness from the neuropathy or do your feet "hurt" pain in the feet. I got the numb toes and after my last chemo and also feel it in my fingers too. I also have pain in the feet. Trying to decide if its just my screwed up feet or the chemo...
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Tangles,
My feet and hands are just very numb. It is like I have no feeling at all on the soles of my feet, not pain. After every chemo treatment, the numbness would go away before the next one. Except for the last chemo, it stayed. I also have some of the numbness on my face and neck, but it has gotten better.
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my one foot hurts.. also the middle toes are tingly and yet sorta numb but the ball of my foot near those toes hurts.. but not every day.. some days no pain and other days I can hardly walk on it.. also a few of my finger tips tingle.. last chemo was 3 mths ago now but this hasn't gotten better or worse..I wonder if it'll ever go away!
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My neuropathy was actually worse after chemo was over. I have it in both hands/arms. Most nights I wake up with my hands and arms completely numb all the way up almost to my arm pit. Some nights it's over and over. Once in a while, I have it in my feet. I wish it would go away, it's frustrating.
I'm also having more muscle stiffness and soreness now too. Maybe it's because I'm doing more? It was so painful to walk after painting my living room. It was almost 2 weeks before it stopped feeling like I had been hit by a truck and even still it takes a while for everything to loosen up when I'm getting up to walk. I'm only 41...it has to be an SE from the chemo. -
Ladies, Agreed! The numbness in the toes and fingers is for sure a SE from chemo. I have it as well. Onco says its from the taxotere. The B Complex vitamin is helping tho. I too hope it goes away soon. So sick of it and the muscle soreness. My thighs and calves hurt so much every single day. I am 7 weeks out from my last chemo and currently doing radiation. I have 15/28 done so far. I am ticking the days off the calendar.
Stay strong everyone, we will get thru this!
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I would just like to go through a day without taking advil. Im sure part of my soreness is from laying around for a good part of 6 months after being a very active person. I will continue with the advil for a few more weeks then I may try and go off it and see what happens. I start Rads Monday. Praying for no side effects as I have been though ENOUGH!!!
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KKMom - my feet (near my toes) are also numb from chemo. Dr says its Taxotere. Its still hard for me to walk, (doing the "Walking Dead" zombie shuffle at times) and my ankles and knees swell up too. Is anyone having ankle edema - any remedies? Very uncomfortable going back to work this week looking baldish, bloated and the replaced boob smaller than the recon side. The recon side had a reduction and lift (T shaped scar) back to a C. So far looks good, but TE side turned into a blob with a line across it - like a hot cross bun. Going in Monday to talk about fat injections to even him out. Then will do nipple tatto in 3 months. Ladies; after 6 rounds of the worst chemo, and a recon, I am not interested in rads unless they show me a bad blood count, etc. Or if they can blast rads in a giant session? Not more visits to the hospital.:(
Tangles - I feel for your pain. I hope your feet get better soon. Are you having your replacements redone?
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lalady even though I am not happy with my exchange I have come to terms with them and just plain DO NOT want anymore surgeries. I guess I need to realize I had cancer I was not just going in for a perky set of new boobs like some of my friends have in the past! I envisioned they would turn out like theirs but they didnt and I am at peace with that. If Rads ruins the implant then I will have no choice and will cross that bridge when I come to it. I pray everyday Rads wont knock me down like the chemo and exchange surgery did!! Start tomorrow:-(
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good luck tangles - now come over to the Summer 2013 Rads board .. lots of good tips and seeing what others experiences have been..
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Hello All,
I have a "health coach" through the Piper Breast Center in Minneapolis. She has told me that L-Glutamine is very good for neuropathy. I've just had one chemo so far and no neuropathy so can't say it works but thought I'd put it out there for all of you who seem to be really struggling.
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Hello Ladies,
Just thought I would offer what little I could regarding the recovery time. I will echo the benefit of exercise. I am 14 weeks post final chemo dosing. When I hit the three week mark, I was expecting to feel better and better since I always felt better heading into treatment after 3 weeks. However, I noticed a big downhill slide. My muscles became so tight, getting out of bed was a challenge, I started feeling fat and saw the scale creeping up which got me feeling depressed and I was tired and just about to start radiation. Uuuggghhh. I decided to tackle the feeling fat thing by getting on the treadmill. I could handle 10-15 min walking at first, but what I noticed was that my muscle tightness was relieved a good deal in just the 15 min. After about 2 weeks and the start of rads, I noticed my clothes fitting better. I think it was really fluid retention from the meds and not the weight gain that I was fearing from being thrown into chemo-induced menopause. I slowly increased my workout, and I started feeling less depressed. The first half of radiation was a non event, then I did notice that I was very sleepy in the early evenings and hot. Hot enough that sleep was disrupted on a regular basis. Again, I figured that this was the menopause hot flashes. I am now 5 weeks post radiation completion and 1 week into tamoxifen, and I am not hot anymore, sleeping better and working out 20-30 minutes a day either on the elliptical, treadmill or Wii just dance! I even ran a comb through my hair this morining and my hair moved!
I will stop blabbing now!
All my best, and keep thinking happy thoughts!
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jbsmom- tell me about side effects from tamoxifen, I believe I will be put on it as soon as rads are over. how much do you take a day?
Tangles= how did rads go for you so far? At 17/28 down....Im starting to get little red bumps within a rashy area. They itch but so far I can handle it.
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Hi Gina925,
Thankfully, not much to say about the Tamoxifen side effects. I take one 20 mg tablet per day, and I take it before I go to bed. It has only been a week, and I admit I was a bit scared to start. I worried a lot about the weight gain, so I dug into the scientific literature, and there have been 2 placebo controlled studies that showed that there was not a statistical difference between the BC patients on tamoxifen and those who were not. Anyway, it was enough to give me hope that if I keep to my pre-BC workout routine, and am careful, I might be ok.
Good luck!
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Gina I feel like when I get home from Rads the area looks red. Even my hubby said yes it does. By the time I go the next day its gone. I told the tec and she said oh you wont get red for a few weeks. Well OK?? I hope this is not a bad sign. I was thinking about jumping over to the summer Rads board but I am worried I will read some negative stuff that will worry me.........
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