Did anyone make it through radiation with their skin okay?

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  • Denise-G
    Denise-G Member Posts: 1,777
    edited July 2013

    My skin was good up until the 5 boosts to my MX scar.  Then it got red as a tomato and peeled 1.5 weeks after Rads ended.  However, Silvadene helped me get through the peeling process.  I was actually glad it peeled as my "new" skin looks pretty darn good.

  • rgiuff
    rgiuff Member Posts: 1,094
    edited July 2013

    Skin just got a little darker in the radiated area, like a tan, but I never had any pain there or irritation.  I used the aloe and other creams that they gave me religiously every day, so that could have helped to prevent problems.  I did have an itchy nipple afterward at times, but moisturizing it helps.

  • sciencegal
    sciencegal Member Posts: 1,120
    edited July 2013

    Thank you, Denise and Rose! It is so good to hear different people's experiences to know what to expect. We all appreciate it!



    Beachbound I am not surprised that you have sme stress-induced insomnia going on, I hope the meds help!



    Hugs

  • proudtospin
    proudtospin Member Posts: 5,972
    edited July 2013

    actually, I got itchie during rads, my RO office gave me samples of dif creams to use, so I picked the one that said on the side of package...good for radiation dermatitis!

    it did well, better than the cortizone 10 cream really

  • Patricia3
    Patricia3 Member Posts: 30
    edited July 2013

    Hi Sciencegal - I had one each grade 2 IDC and ILC removed in Feb. and had radiation only - no chemo.The only reaction I experienced was slight redness and tenderness late in my 5 week treatment.  I did not suffer any fatigue at all (perhaps because of the exercise - I was able to walk to the treatment centre, although my radio oncologist expected me to feel the need to drive after a couple of weeks!) Another women I spoke to near the end of treatment felt very fatigued and her breast was very itchy. Her cancer situation and treatment time was similar to mine, and the age may have been a factor - she was pre-menopausal, I am in my seventies. As we are told - "Every woman is different".  I do hope everything goes well with you.

    p.s. I soooo glad I found this site! I't good  to hear others' experiences and what I could expect.

  • sciencegal
    sciencegal Member Posts: 1,120
    edited July 2013

    Thanks Patanty, and good for you for walking to rads each day. That is great!



    I am trying to excercise as much as I can because I know it is so beneficial. So far so good.



    I havent had the itches yet but am just over half way through- fingers crossed.



    Thanks everyone for the input, it definitely helps.

    Hugs!
  • sciencegal
    sciencegal Member Posts: 1,120
    edited July 2013

    Bumping to the top for SophiaAnne-Marie.

    Hugs to all

  • SophiaAnne-Marie
    SophiaAnne-Marie Member Posts: 20
    edited July 2013

    I just joined last night, but I swear I cry for every post I read, every little tid-bit of info or story I hear. It's like I've been holding my breath since May 13th and I've finally been able to exhale Laughing

    In the 8 year period leading up to my diagnosis, I was extremely depressed with aches, pain and fatigue among other things. It turns out the culprit was my multivitamin. It had 5,000% the daily value of B6. To put that into perspective, you get your full recommended amount in about half a banana. To make a long story short, I am so freaked out about drugs and/or treatments altering my personality or making me fatigued again. So paranoid. 

    I'm also in my early 30s and haven't had any children yet, so I'm really concerned about that too. Everyone is different, but I'm so glad to see that there's always hope. Always good days in with the bad, and now I have a place to go to help manage both.

    And it sounds like I need to listen to my body but move as often as possible. Even on days where I'm feeling really tired, if that should be, I'm going to walk even if that means pacing. And I can't wait to share my experience Laughing

    Thanks so much Sciencegal for bringing our focus back on the positive, and thanks so much everyone for sharing your stories. <3

  • proudtospin
    proudtospin Member Posts: 5,972
    edited July 2013

    Sofie, keep your spirits up, the worst is over as you now have a plan~~I think?

    I have DCIS, did lumpies and rads, then the ALs and now almost at an end of my 5 years on the meds.  Suggestion is to continue some form of exercise, whatever works for you. I really believe (and my trainer reminded me yesterday), that starting slow and continuing work outs, is part of the reason I am now feeling so much better.  Who knows how much it has meant to my physical health but it sure helps me mentally!  Do it girl friend!

  • Robin3
    Robin3 Member Posts: 145
    edited July 2013

    Hi All, I have 4 more radiation treatments left (boosts). I have to say I'm lucky I have no skin breakdown. I put my lotion(s) on 3 x a day.Drinks lots of water. And for those asking about exercising. I am a zumba instructor. I took six weeks off after my lumpectomy and then having my port put in. I slowly went back to teaching twice a week during CMF chemo. And now during radiation I teach 4+ times a week. I feel SOOO much better when I exercise. I swear it sweats out all the toxins. I make sure my breast is lubricated, then coat it with cornstarch baby powder so it doesn't stick to anything, and am good to go. My doctor is so proud of me for working through this. I DO get tired. But i rest after. The tiredness goes away once I get started. Exercise has truly saved me through this entire ordeal.

  • proudtospin
    proudtospin Member Posts: 5,972
    edited July 2013

    Robin, you sound like you are a real trouper, keep going girl friend

    yeap, naps are a really fine thing during this period

  • Robin3
    Robin3 Member Posts: 145
    edited July 2013

    Naps have helped. Its been so important to me not to let the cancer/chemo/radiation win! I refuse to let this define me. :-) It's been one day at a time. That is all any of us can do! :-)

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2013

    I don't want to jinx myself ......... BUT...

    Just finished treatment #33 of 34 (tomorrow is my last one) and my skin looks great!  I only have the tiniest of rashes across the top, a wee bit of tanning in the bottom crease, and no pain or blisters or breakdown or anything like that.  I went through an itchy phase a week or two ago, but that passed once I started my boosts.

    Honestly I think the thing that's helped me the most has been good nutrition and plenty of protein and hydration.  Since about the second or third week, I haven't used much in the way of special lotions.  Tried hydrocortisone plus aquaphor for the itchy phase and that worked for a few days but then just felt too greasy and pore-clogging and a clean (and bra-less) breast felt better.   I mostly used aloe but not faithfully.  Fatigue has usually been mild and I'm almost always able to work through it.  (Exercise definitely helps!)  All in all, other than the grind of the 1.5 hour (each way) trip on public transit each day for the past 7 weeks, rads has been pretty easy for me.   Which doesn't mean I'm not thrilled it's all over with tomorrow!!!  Yay!!  And now on to the next phase -- Arimidex.  

  • proudtospin
    proudtospin Member Posts: 5,972
    edited July 2013

    great for you!  now start to plan a vacation, or maybe you already have that done!

  • sciencegal
    sciencegal Member Posts: 1,120
    edited July 2013

    Nyama, Robin and Proudtospin, good for you girls. Yay!



    SophiaAnne it sounds like you are absorbing a lot of knowledge and know how to best prepare yoursef to go into this leg of the battle. I did the same, thanks to the amazing women on this site- my total support system. I can never thank everyone enough for all that they have taught me on this journey.



    I bet you are going to do just great!!!



    Hugs to all

  • SophiaAnne-Marie
    SophiaAnne-Marie Member Posts: 20
    edited July 2013

    Congrats Nyama, Robin and Proudtospin Laughing And thanks again Sciencegal!

    I'm starting next week and am happier than a bird with a french fry! CT scan and all that and treatments will probably begin the Monday after that. I'm really happy because I get to get a lot more independence back ironically and will be closer to my friends. I love living in the high desert, but I miss being able to walk anywhere without dying from heat exhaustion, or just being able to sit outside during the day. There's also a Crossfit gym really, really close to the hospital, so I can walk from my room/apartment there. There's also a Michael's nearby so I can keep working on my Smash books (creative journals) that have really been helping me through this. It's nice to be able to now travel less than a mile (the Michael's is also really close to the hospital, it's like to Universe knew I'd be coming Smile) without having to drive 50 miles to Palm Springs. 

    I've also decided to post here no matter what my experience is, but have honestly already decided it's going to be good. I've got my Lindi pad coming in the mail, my V-neck Ts, I've got an exercise program lined up and thanks to Robin3 I'm going to make sure and put some baby powder in my sports bra when I'm working out. Oh, and talk to your doctors about Astragalus! 

    I am a little concerned about getting enough protein since I'm practically Vegan (I have one free day a week and tend to eat just one serving of lean chicken, turkey or...a BLT. Man do I love BLTs!) and no dairy at all. I can cheat all the time but the one thing I don't mess around with is dairy since there have been numerous studies that have found Casein to be like Miracle Grow for cancer. But man do I miss cheese, but not nearly as much as I miss not having cancer. I'll talk to my nutritionist but I've found it so hard to get enough protein from soy since changing my diet after diagnosis. 

    Anyhow, I'm rambling because I've been up since 1 and now it's 5am Tongue Out Congrats again, thank you, and stay strong!


  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited July 2013

    You will want to talk to the nutritionist about how to get enough calcium if you aren't doing dairy, and remember that overdoing soy is not good for a estrogen positive lady either, so you will need to figure out a way to get protein without relying too much on it. Many ladies really do need extra protein during rads, so you might want to relax your meat restrictions during this time. Eat what your body needs during this time & get back on track once you are done.

  • doxie
    doxie Member Posts: 1,455
    edited July 2013

    I second what Ruth is saying.  It might be wise to look at the need to eat more protein as medication.  Often we don't want to take something but really have to to heal.  After you have healed from rads, at least 2-3 weeks afterwards, then you could go back to your regular diet.  

    I'm on a medium dose of antibiotics after nipple reconstruction on a radiated breast.  This is preventative. I'm not one to take extra meds, but an infection could damage the reconstruction, cause cellulitus, and/or aggrevate LE, so an antibiotic is reasonable under this situation.  Don't like it, but must do it.

  • sciencegal
    sciencegal Member Posts: 1,120
    edited July 2013

    Good idea Ruth about taking a little break in the diet restrictions. SophiaAnne maybe this is just.....free time, diet-wise??? A BLT a day?



    But seriously, I have almond butter on my Am toast and have a handful of nuts tthroughout the day, to make sure the protein is always available to my cells. I keep track of the grams I intake, shooting for 60g.



    The fat intake is a bit higher than I usually have but its the good fat and so far no weight gain. i am keeping as active as possible too.



    As for mail-order supplies and getting ready, after scouring all these boards and wonderful advice, I decided upon emu oil by night and miaderm by day. The miaderm was formulated by ROs and mine said I can put it on up to one hour prior to my rads appt. The emu oil is a bit greasy (not as bad as aquafor) so I put that on when I get home from work, and a nightie that barely touches the skin.



    So far so good for me. FIngers crossed. Six more to go!!!!!

    Doxie I just saw your post- good luck to you!!! Remember to take probiotics too....to counteract the antibiotics. Good time to "reset" the gut flora.


    We will get to the finish line ladies!

  • SophiaAnne-Marie
    SophiaAnne-Marie Member Posts: 20
    edited July 2013

    That's really sound advice. I've been having soy about 2-3 times a week and am even concerned about that because of the isoflavones, but I need the protein. When I first started it was no soy, dairy or meat, but I felt really weak. I started juicing and have a fairly balanced diet now, but it's actually gotten that I don't like the taste of meat and feel a bit ill after eating it. I guess I'll have to wait and see what the nutritionist says :-) 

    A diet break sounds great because I didn't eat a lot of processed foods before and was fairly healthy. So to go from someone who stays away from HFCS, dyes and other additives, and only eating organic, to a super strict Vegan diet may have jolted my system since my already limited choices got even more so. 

    And I'm heading over to check out the emu oil and miaderm Laughing

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited July 2013

    My opinion is that during cancer treatment, all the other diet 'rules' are off. You are putting some extraordinary demands on your body & you just need to make it through in one piece. During chemo, the only thing I could stand to eat was mashed potatoes with butter and cheese....so that it what I ate (I could not have swallowed a vegetable for all the money in the world). During rads, I ate meat like a cavewoman......it was what my body craved. Once I was all done, then I went back to eating a healthier diet again (always a work in progress in my case!).

  • SophiaAnne-Marie
    SophiaAnne-Marie Member Posts: 20
    edited July 2013

    Laughing Ha ha ha ha ha. Ok, ok, ok I hear you guys. I was just trying to use discipline to get through this, but I will both talk to a nutritionist and listen to my body. They actually did a study on allowing toddlers to eat what they wanted and were surprised that the children had a better balanced diet than what their parents provided. They thought they would just want ice cream and cake, but were stunned when the kids would ask for those things in moderation, and asked for things like spinach more. So, I'll pretend I'm on vacation and will learn to eat meat like a Homo neanderthalensis Laughing

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited July 2013

    Great...or should I say GRRRR eat?! Wink

  • doxie
    doxie Member Posts: 1,455
    edited July 2013

    sciencegal,  

    Yes, probiotics are necessary.  My NP suggested it when I complained about gastro distress.  What a difference!  Worth every dollar.  Not cheap.

  • sciencegal
    sciencegal Member Posts: 1,120
    edited August 2013

    Thank you everyone, SO much, for all the input and tips.



    I am almost to the finish line - one more zap to go. My skin is pink, a bit sore and just the very top layer is lightly peeling in a couple of spots but there are no open sores as I had feared. Fingers crossed that it stays this way! This, I can handle.



    I used emu oil by night, after my afternoon rads appointment, miaderm by day, up to one hour before rads, crystal roll-on deoderant in the AM but gently washed skin prior to rads, drank 10-12 eight ounce cups of water a day and tried to get 60 grams of protein along with a lot of veggies. Also Turmeric daily- 4 capsules, wild harvest brand with piperine.



    All of this info I got from these boards and it really seems to have helped- THANK YOU!!!!!!



    24/25

  • graceforme
    graceforme Member Posts: 70
    edited August 2013

    Sciencegal, I've been following this thread as I will be starting rads in a few weeks. Thank you for starting this thread as I've learned a lot. I wanted to ask you what brand of emu oil and miaderm did you use and where did you purchase them.

  • ruthbru
    ruthbru Member Posts: 57,235
    edited August 2013

    Congratulations Sciencegal!!! Keep doing all the same things you've been doing for two weeks after you are done, the effects will take that long to work themselves out of your system....then it is on to the rest of your life! Cool

  • RMlulu
    RMlulu Member Posts: 1,989
    edited August 2013

    Yippee Ooo who Sciencegirl!



    24/25! my Happy Dance shoes are on! Yeah emu oil and miaderm ...keep it up for a month after...skin is still changing and just feels good.

    You did it laser tag warrior! Jump off that table and ring that bell! DONE :)



  • proudtospin
    proudtospin Member Posts: 5,972
    edited August 2013

    yeap, an end of rads is time for a celebration, do remember you have been through a lot and rest up.  Me, about 6 months later I ended up with shingles....it happens to folks who are run down so, rest up all

  • FLtricia
    FLtricia Member Posts: 140
    edited August 2013

    Graceforme:

    Miaderm is the brand.  Developed by RO's.  Available from Amazon.  Nurse in my Ro office told me it used to be by prescription only.  $30 for 4 ounces on Amazon. Very good product.  I did not use Emu oil, so can't help you there.

    I learned a lot on this thread.  Finished 28 treatments and 5 of 7 boosts.  Can't wait til Tuesday.  I wish you well on your radiation journey.

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