I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2013

    GG - really hoping THIS is the House to become your HOMESmile

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited July 2013

    Hope this comes on and is usuable.

    PA GOP leader admits Voter ID is for Democratic vote suppression

    Rachel Maddow shares video of Pennsylvania Republican Party chairman, Rob Gleason, boasting about the effectiveness of voter I.D. at reducing the margin of victory for President Obama in that state in the 2012 election.

     http://video.msnbc.msn.com/rachel-maddow-show/52504712

     

     
  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited July 2013

    Obamacare is Working

    Today, House Republicans are wasting yet another day on votes to undermine, attack, and repeal Obamacare. While the GOP’s obsession with attacking the law may never end, the rest of us are focused on implementing the law and making it work.

    A look outside of Washington, D.C. shows that the law is working, is helping make health care more affordable for millions of Americans, and will only help millions more when it is fully implemented in the year to come.

    Here’s just a few examples of how Obamacare is working:

    • New York: Just today we found out that health insurance premiums for those in the individual market will plummet by 50 percent or more. The New York Times reports that someone who is paying $1,000 a month now will be able to purchase coverage next year for as little as $308 — and that’s not even counting potential Obamacare subsidies that could lower the cost even further.
    • California: The costs for a medium coverage plan are far below predictions. For example, in southern Los Angeles County Health Net is going to charge $242 a month for one of its plans while Blue Shield is charging $287 and Kaiser Permanente $325 for the same coverage. That means that the 5 million uninsured residents of California will now have more access to affordable, higher quality care than is currently available.
    • Montana: The individual and small group health plans sold on the marketplace will be cheaper and offer better coverage. Without the health law, insurance officials predicted the average premium in 2014 to rise by 10 percent to $290. Instead, the average cost for an individual plan will be $273 — about five percent lower than it would have been without the health law’s marketplace. Costs are going down even has insurance companies will now have to cover ten “essential health benefits,” including prescription drug and mental health services, that skimpy individual plans almost never cover.
    • Louisiana: Residents will soon see lower premiums as well. Just last week Louisiana’s largest private health insurer, Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Louisiana, estimated that two-thirds of its customers who buy their own policies will pay the same premiums or less for better coverage under the federal health care overhaul.
    • Washington: After warning that premiums would go up by 50-70 percent under Obamacare, Premera Blue Cross released rates for individual plans that are far lower that current levels. Premera currently offers individual plans for 21-year-old non-smokers at a monthly cost of $325, with a deductible of $1,800. In the exchange, that same person in King County could purchase a similar Premera plan with a lower deductible at a rate of $276 — a decrease of 15 percent.
    We could go on, but you get the picture. In states where everyone is committed to making the law work, it’s working and working well. And even in states like Louisiana where elected officials are putting politics ahead of peoples’ health, the law is still working and helping consumers save money and get better coverage.

    The president himself will give a speech tomorrow highlighting the Obamacare benefits that millions of Americans are already experiencing and those yet to come as the law is fully implemented.

    BOTTOM LINE: Obamacare is working. And with 24 million Americans expected to gain coverage through the marketplaces by 2016, that’s great news for Americans’ pocketbooks — as well as their health. It’s time Republicans do their job and make sure their constituents get coverage and the benefits from Obamacare, instead of doing everything in their power to take away those benefits from their constituents.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited July 2013

    Not that we are all not growing weary of it but:

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited July 2013
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    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited July 2013
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2013

    Jackie - thanks for the Maddow tape - hard to believe any one would be idjut enuf to admit that in a tv interview...remarkable, hope it goes viral!

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited July 2013
  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited July 2013

    Why are some of you getting scans for "routine" MO visits?  I didn't even have bloodwork done on my last 4 month visit and my MO never does tumor markers.  Ofcourse, I'm speaking to those who are Stage I,II and maybe III.  When I asked my MO about her protocol, the idea is, that symptoms will appear and "time" (i.e. finding something with a scan before it is felt) doesn't really buy anything.  I will caveat, I'm not too sure about the latter philosophy as I've heard complaints here at BCO about finding spinal or liver mets early might allow for either surgery and/or less damage to bones before surgery.

    Nevertheless - always nice to hear the boring results.

    GG, did you get the condo in Hawaii??  Why do you love the newest house (on the mainland)?

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited July 2013
  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited July 2013

    Kam I just get bloodwork every 6 months and mammo every year as well as bone density scan.  My onc said the same thing.  Finding mets early won't change anything.

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited July 2013

    Kam, my onc and I said goodbye to each other (both saying "Hope I never see you here again!" while hugging) 5 years after this whole mess began.  She has turned me over to my GP who will order blood tests and do a physical exam as needed, along with 1xyear mammo and dexascan.

    No guarantees that I won't need to see her again, but having a GP do the same things as she would seems the sensible way to go.

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited July 2013

    Congrats C4C for graduating from MO school (and 5 years! Yeah!!).  Dexascan every year??  I don't get that either, though maybe that's my belief, and not a fact, as I'm only 10 months out with Hormonols (lovely stuff - NOT).  I thought she had said in 2 years.   I did have my last bloodwork in February, so supsect I will get in September on my next visit.  Is that 8 months - yes?

    Blue - I never see your "stats" so don't have a clue of your BC dx and timeline.  Ofcourse, mine are like a long menu, so I try to detach signature, myself.

    On the racist topic....This is my firm belief:  If someone tells you there is no longer racism in America or we live in a post-racial America, or they make a racial slur, but don't even realize they just did that and claim their innocense, they are racists.  I have seen this pattern, whether Big Brother, that juror on the Trayvon Martin case, or here on BCO.  Racist behavior does not have to be explicit.  Could be an observation about the VRA, or welfare, or the desire to make English our national language by law, etc.., these are racist attitudes.  No passes.  Racism is alive and well in America.

  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited July 2013

    Blue, re. Albinoni's Adagio in G Minor - I love that piece and had no idea that The Doors had ever covered it. Thanks for the link!

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited July 2013



    This is an article from Vanity Fair that will resonate with all of us. This is the true cost of the brutal forced-birth, anti-women law that Perry just signed in Texas.



    http://www.vanityfair.com/online/eichenwald/2013/07/family-cancer-cruelty-conservatives





    6:43 PM, JULY 15 2013

    My Family, Our Cancer, and the Murderous Cruelty of Conservatives

    by Kurt Eichenwald



    My wife has breast cancer.



    I write this, with her permission, while sitting in the hospital waiting room as she undergoes surgery. Afterward, there will be another surgery, radiation, and probably chemo, but what else might be in the offing is guesswork at this point. I’ll know more this afternoon, when the operation is over.



    Theresa discovered the lump four weeks ago while we were watching television. Fortunately, as a doctor with excellent health insurance, she was able to take quick action. The next day, she had a mammogram and sonogram. Soon after, a radiologist biopsied the growth; we were notified that it was malignant in a call from her doctor seconds before a flight attendant told us to shut off our phones in preparation for takeoff. We quickly met with the surgeon and scheduled today’s operation. Before Theresa left the office, she had a blood test for genetic markers. The next day, an M.R.I.



    The whirlwind of activity sometimes allowed us to sidestep our feelings; at the beginning, the diagnosis seemed more like a list of things to do rather than a potentially life-threatening condition. There was, of course, denial. When we informed our sons of what was happening, Theresa wasn’t able to use the words “breast cancer.” I did, and she later told me that, when I said the term, she felt like I was talking about someone else.



    Of course, there was fear: she worried about the possibility of a mastectomy, I only worried that she would die. And finally, in that very short time frame of a few weeks, we reached some level of acceptance.



    But there were other feelings that struck us hard: fury, dismay, contempt. Not at our situation, but at the realization that untold thousands of women would not be as lucky as Theresa. Instead, they will die because of conservatives’ endless efforts to block poor women from having access to mammograms, breast exams and treatment. Theresa detected her cancer early enough that we feel confident she will survive. But we’re both aware that, right now, there are other women who don’t know they have this vicious invader growing inside them and will not find out until it is too late. Their husbands and loved ones will not have the chance, as I do, to sit in the waiting room of the hospital, and instead will stand at the entryway of the funeral home.



    Many Republicans, either out of self-delusion or deceit, deny they are causing any such thing. But there is no question that, in their obsession with zygotes, embryos, and non-viable fetuses as part of their supposed pro-life stance, they are effectively murdering real, walking, talking women—mothers and daughters, grandmothers and sisters, all sacrificed on an altar of Pecksniffian hypocrisy and contemptible disregard by people who have the insurance, connections, and available health care to feel certain their politics won’t kill their loved ones. Perhaps Theresa and I are re-directing our anger from the cancer, but so be it; our rage has focused on the financially comfortable, morally blind, and arrogantly self-righteous who tyrannically conspire to rob poor women of years of life they might otherwise have. It is for this reason that Theresa is willing to disclose her condition, in hopes that, in doing so, we will help highlight how politicians are blithely choosing to kill women who are not as fortunate as she is. 



    We live in Texas, a state that often makes us proud of its communities and ashamed of its politicians, and have been dealing with our breast-cancer scare at the same time Republicans in the state House have been rushing forward with the now-infamous anti-abortion legislation (or, as I prefer to call it, the forced-birth bill). For a moment, forget the scientific nonsense and bogus assertions that have fed this debate—that rape kits used by law enforcement to collect evidence can prevent pregnancy, that fetuses feel pain at 20 weeks (contrary to scientific evidence), that proof of that pain can be seen in the “fact” that male fetuses masturbate at 20 weeks, that the American economic crisis was caused by abortions, that an abortionist distributed ineffective birth control to teenagers so he could make millions of dollars performing the procedure, and on and on.



    What is scary here is not that kind of silliness, but what it shows about a scientific debate devoid of science: the advocates just don’t care. Like a boy trying to justify what he wants to believe, rather than forming belief around demonstrable facts, the Texas legislators and their mostly G.O.P. counterparts around the country aren’t making arguments. They’re just saying things based on a woeful ignorance of the issues involved. And small wonder: working in the Texas state legislature is a part-time job, involving people whose knowledge comes not from public-policy analysis but from all sorts of other professions. Lawyers, farmers, real-estate title searchers, and the like. One of the primary supporters of the House bill, Rep. Cindy Burkett, is the owner of three Subway sandwich restaurants. Given that she and other legislators are ignoring the recommendations and input from the American Congress of Obstetricians and Gynecologists, where have they learned about medical issues in public policy?



    Apparently nowhere. Let’s set aside the 20-week debate, since that is unrelated to the issue of access to breast-cancer screening and other women’s-health care. Also, it is a topic I think honest people can have reasonable disagreements about. Instead, let’s talk about the other rules in this legislation that will kill people.



    One of the requirements of the legislation is that any facility performing abortions must have a doctor on staff who has admitting privileges at a hospital no more than 30 miles away that has an obstetrical or gynecological health service. This is something that the Texas Hospital Association says is a bad idea. But when asked in the course of the House “debate” to define the words in this requirement, Burkett could not even explain what admitting privileges are! She, like the other forced birthers in the debate, just picked up the idea from the anti-abortion crowd that advanced it in states around the country as a means of shutting down clinics that provide the procedures.



    But her lack of knowledge is nothing compared to that of Rep. Jodie Laubenberg, the bill’s author and the primary proponent of both the “rape kits can stop pregnancies” and “fetal pain at 20 weeks” nonsense. (She is also the legislator who, famously in Texas, opposed state funding of prenatal care—essential for the health of babies—because fetuses “aren’t born yet.” The sanctity of life, it seems, is not as important as the sanctity of tax dollars.) If the consequences of her ignorance were not so dire, Laubenberg could perhaps be forgiven for it. As she has zero medical training and her sole background credit is as a city-council member in a town of just under 4,000 people, there is no reason to expect that she would know anything about health issues.



    And boy, did it show: when questioned by her colleagues earlier this month about what the bill contained, she was not only unable to answer questions, but she seemed unfamiliar with the legislation. She didn’t comprehend how doctors receive admitting privileges. While the legislation requires significant, expensive, and often financially impossible upgrades in the facilities that provide abortions, she refused to consider amendments to provide the clinics with money to meet new standards. She dismissed concerns that the bill would shut down health clinics as “hypothetical” (even though her forced-birther allies proclaim that is the reason for the clinic restrictions). And, whenever she faced a difficult question, she simply refused to respond.



    Since you don’t understand the issue beyond your desire to limit abortions, Rep. Laubenberg, let me put the meaning of what you have done in clear terms: through your ignorance or incompetence or general lack of interest in the well-being of people who don’t look like you or have your size bank account, you will be responsible for the deaths of untold numbers of Texas women. You, Rep. Laubenberg, will be a murderer, no different than some street punk who shoots up a liquor store. His weapon is a gun; yours, a smug satisfaction with your limited understanding of health policy. If Theresa and I were among the rural poor, she would now almost certainly be one the many people you would kill as a result of her inability to gain access to breast screenings. And for that, you deserve not only our contempt, but the contempt of every decent human being with the humility and intelligence to recognize the impact of the legislation you have “written,” yet aren’t bright enough to understand.



    Here is reality: Women’s-health clinics have been under assault for years. The legislature already barred Planned Parenthood—the conservative’s abortion boogeyman—from the state’s Women’s Health Program because it funds abortion clinics. Abortions make up just 3 percent of the services the organization performs (a number that was lyingly transformed in a speech by United States Senator Jon Kyl into 97 percent; an aide to Kyl later famously proclaimed that the falsehood “was not intended as a factual statement.”) Planned Parenthood estimates that 130,000 women in Texas go without preventive health care, like breast-cancer screenings, due to the cuts to women’s-health-care funding.



    Such services are now available at other clinics that are not affiliated with Planned Parenthood, but not for long under the dictates of Laubenberg and her murderous allies. Since few of the clinics in Texas meet the strict and almost unprecedented standards in the legislation—nor do they have the money to meet the demands—many will have to close, even though abortions have proven to be among the safest procedures conducted in the state.



    I just took a break. Theresa is still in surgery, and Dr. Aditi Anand, her pathologist, stopped by the waiting room to discuss her case with me. After our talk, I mentioned what I was writing and why. Dr. Anand’s eyes flashed. Not only did I strike a nerve, but she told me of a problem I didn’t know about that is caused by the onslaught against health clinics that provide abortions: even when doctors are willing to provide the services for free, the actions of the Texas legislature are all but guaranteeing that poor women at risk of cancer will not be able to find them.



    Dr. Anand told me she is part of a Texas group known as the Bridge Breast Network, a coalition of physicians, mammographers, pathologists, and surgeons who have all volunteered to provide care for women who suffer from breast cancer. In other words, the treatment is available for these women— not because the state government makes the effort to help, but because the doctors are willing to donate their services. But the linchpins of this whole system, Dr. Anand said, are the clinics that provide referrals—the very clinics Texas is shutting down.



    “These women go to Planned Parenthood and other clinics where women who have no insurance go, and they get referred to the Bridge,” she said. When these clinics get closed down, there is no way for these women to go anywhere. “This is just a strata of society that isn’t savvy, that nobody thinks about, nobody fights for, nobody cares about.”



    When the clinics close, “the clients cannot reach you,” Dr. Anand said. “They are going to have advanced disease.”



    Dr. Anand left and another hour has passed. It is now late in the afternoon, and Theresa’s surgeon just came out to the waiting room to speak with me. The operation went well, she told me. The bleeding was controlled, although the tumor was large enough that Theresa will likely require chemo starting in the next few weeks. Still, while there will be a need for a second surgery, there was no sign that the cancer had spread. We had caught it early enough, thanks to our own knowledge and our access to top-flight medical care.



    The surgeon told me that I would be able to see Theresa in the recovery room in about 45 minutes. She left, and I closed my eyes. Then, to my everlasting shame, I thanked God that we aren’t poor. I don’t want my wife to die of breast cancer, the way so many other Texas women soon will.

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited July 2013

    Kam, I too am on the "test only when there are symptoms" protocol.  I personally prefer it that way.  If I have an issue they get to it very quickly.  My gp does my annual blood testing so she would see any problems with organs not functioning.  I know (and hear about) lots of people who get the all clear and then the bottom falls out a couple of months later. 

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited July 2013

    Kam, I had ILC 1.5 cm, ER+ PR+.  No chemo but 21 radiation sessions.  Grade 2.  In 2006.

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited July 2013

    RR. Ray Manzarek, RIP, was the guru of music in the group.  Jim was the genius of poetry!  Here's a little bio on Jim.

    At the center of The Doors’ mystique is the magnetic presence of singer-poet Jim Morrison, the leather-clad “Lizard King” who brought the riveting power of a shaman to the microphone.

    Morrison was a film student at UCLA when he met keyboardist Ray Manzarek on Venice Beach in 1965.  Upon hearing Morrison’s poetry, Manzarek immediately suggested they form a band; the singer took the group’s name from Aldous Huxley’s infamous psychedelic memoir, “The Doors of Perception.”

    Constantly challenging censorship and conventional wisdom, Morrison’s lyrics delved into primal issues of sex, violence, freedom and the spirit.  He outraged authority figures, braved intimidation and arrest, and followed the road of excess (as one of his muses, the poet William Blake, famously put it) toward the palace of wisdom.

    Over the course of six extraordinary albums and countless boundary-smashing live performances, he inexorably changed the course of rock music – and died in 1971 at the age of 27.  He was buried in Paris, and fans from around the world regularly make pilgrimages to his grave.

    In 1978, the surviving members of the band – keyboardist Ray Manzarek, guitarist Robby Krieger and drummer John Densmore – reunited to record the accompanying music for An American Prayer, a compilation of Morrison’s poetry readings.  He remains the very template of the rock frontman, and his singing, poetry and Dionysian demeanor continue to inspire artists and audiences around the world.

  • gardengumby
    gardengumby Member Posts: 7,305
    edited July 2013

    This year I had to have a CT scan because of the questionable lung nodules that were seen in the last one - but other than that, I get a once yearly mammogram (done this visit), and each time I see the MO I have blood work done.  I've had one dexascan, so I don't know how often that will occur.  My bones were really really good, so they may not choose to even give me another - I just don't know.  But regardless, I get nervous.  Like I told hubby - I felt just freakin' fine before my initial diagnosis, so the fact that I feel good now doesn't really ease my nerves.

    The house inspection seemed to go well.  A couple items came up, but unless I'm reading my husband wrong - not too much.  We'll talk about it tonight after I finish work (and he has a nap).  Kam - the reason I love this house....  well, it's got vaulted ceilings, a deck, access to the deck from both the family room and the master bedroom.  The master bath has a huge shower.  The backyard is roomy and private.  The kitchen has a LOT of light and is open to the family room.  There are skylights in the bathroom, dining room and family room and there is a wood stove with a huge brick surround that is really the centerpiece of the house.  The house is about 1/2 the size of our last house, but roomy so that we won't feel cramped.  On top of that, it's a great neighborhood.  There's no view from the house, unfortunately, but if we walk to the street there's a magnificent view of Mt Rainier - and I've really missed the mountain since we sold our old house. It's the first house we've seen that I feel fairly positive that we won't lose money on if we decide to sell in a few years.

    In regards to the condo - we still don't know.  It's gone to the bank, but it's a short sale, and I don't know what the steps are nor what the time-line is.  So I'm just waiting to see what happens.  We're hoping that it will go through and better yet, that it closes before I retire, so that when we go to Hawaii in November to visit our son & his family, we can just hop over to the Big Island and spend a couple more months.

    Whatever happens, we're gonna be somewhat cash strapped for the next couple years before Medicare and SS kicks in and while we decide where we want to be permanently and full-time.  I told hubby he's going to have to either catch lots of fish or grow to love rice and beans!  Laughing

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited July 2013

    Blue and Pip - so nice to see that you are both > 5 years out. Congrats!

    GG - sounds like they are doing necessary testing only for you.  House sounds lovely.  A truely NW home.  I know what you mean about seeing "the mountain."  I have my own here and it's very relaxing to peak out the window and see a 14,000+ volcano.  I need one more window to make it a perfect few, though I'm at a oblique angle to it.  Still works and no one can ever build to block my view.  (Remember, we are ON the volcano, not looking from a distance, here, so not all in town get to see it.)

    Libby - I think there will be backlash in Texas. I suspect there is enough gerrymandering, though, to keep the State houses the same, but on a state and national level, we may see Dems taking over.

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited July 2013

    It's interesting - Steve had to have CT scans every year for 5 years, yet we don't. The onc said ut was because our risk of recurrence was too low to warrant the exposure to the radiation from the scans.

    Annie and Nicholas arrive tonight - eeek!!! I removed my cross stitching stuff from the family room - lots more baby proofing to do yet.

    Still got to work out how to put the baby seat in the car.

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited July 2013

    Only 2 hours to go - all ready for them sort of. Plane delayed half an hour - uh oh.

  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited July 2013

    GG - house sounds great.  Hope it works out for you!

    Everyone stay cool and classy.  I'm off for the weekend.  I'm very excited, although alas, I will not be writing for a few days - and it's hard to stop since I'm on a roll right now.  I reached page 311, my hero has been captured by the bad guys, my heroine escaped so she can rescue him.  Winding up to the finale.  Hope to finish within a hundred pages or so, but whatever it takes.  It's going good.

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited July 2013

    Alexandria, just yesterday I was wondering about your book. Thanks for the update! It sounds like a real thriller!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2013

    Author, author, author....Wink have a great weekend - can't wait to buy my copy.

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited July 2013
  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited July 2013

    Pastafarian?

    Clearly an apostle of the FSM.

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited July 2013
  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited July 2013

    ENJOYFUL - great minds - that's just what I was thinking!  Flying Spagetti Monster - we have a new idol!

    Cactus - ouch Kiss  I'm more the old cottage garden type of flower fan...speaking of flowers, my sungold tomatoes are producing - the HEAT and sun - whew, won't complain cuz the breeze is lovely, all windows open, but WOW, this is tropical. Cool down this weekend.  Then going to friend's garden to help her harvest gooseberries and make jam.  Life is good.

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited July 2013

    I just spoke with our dear Athena.  She was on her way to radiation but hopes to call back later tonight.  She is in a lot of pain so please send positive energy her way!

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