Starting Chemo July 2012
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Hey Maddie and group. I started Herceptin in October (I think)--when i started taxol. This will be my 5th MUGA. Numbers have been up and down but never this low. Hair--who knows. Hair loss is listed with both femara and herceptin but is rare. So of course I am losing mine!
I do have to have the 2nd mastectomy this summer. I would like to have all the surgical procedures this year and not have to start over on co-pays and out of pocket expenses. Actually-would like to start a year without cancer. Will find out June 7th if I can have reconstruction on the cancer side also. I will have been out of radiation a couple of months then. Would like to schedule around 4 July to allow healing before the academic year starts mid August.
Hot and very dry in New Mexico. Need rain badly. Will be another horrid fire season.
Love to all
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Hi SusanHG123- Well, if they have to stop the Herceptin you have had quite a few already. There has been some controversy about how many are needed to be effective. Some say 6 months for early BC, and a year for the rest. I have read articles which say the 2 year dose recommended by the pharmaceutical companies is considered to be a money making racket on their part! I don't know about that, as it seems a bit harsh, but I know it costs them a fortune for the research and testing.
I am so glad you let us know how you were doing. About 3 days before you signed in I did a search to see if you had posted on any other threads, as I was worried about you! Here's hoping your hair starts growing again!
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Yes, just got over a bladder infection! Didn't connect it with chemo since it's been 6 mo. since, but maybe that's why I got it. Funny, I'm almost always ready to blame bad stuff on the chemo (like chemo brain)
Nat
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SusanHGB So sorry to hear your bad news. And the awful reactions to your continued treatments. Sending you hugs and good wishes for relief from them. Nat
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Good news to post! Had a colonocopy today, and all was well. Nat
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Congratulations on your good news!
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Hi na- Congratulations on your good news. I am sorry you are having problems at the other end as well!!!
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Susan, so sorry to hear you've run into some roadblocks. Hope you are back on course now. Can related to your wanting everything to be over and done with. I'm still dragging my feet about going to meet with a PS to see about a reduction on the non BS side. At this point, I'm just very glad to have that as my biggest worry. (other than BS reccurence that is!)
Nat, I am glad to hear you got good results from your colonoscopy! I have to discuss it with my GP when I see him next week. My dad (67) went for his a few weeks back and they had to remove some polyps. Dr told him to let his immediate family members know as he recommends they have colonoscopies done because of the higher risk to first generation relatives. Oh JOY!! I inhereited my dad's brown eyes, migraine headaches and his rectal polyps?? EWWWWW lol. I am NOT looking forward to it, I thought I'd have another 4 years before I had to deal with THAT. And every time I talk to him, he asks if I scheduled one yet. NO! I talked to my regular Dr about it last month (was there for a bum knee) and she told me not to worry about it till I get thru the month of May. She knew I was stressing about the yearly mammo and checkup with BS. God bless her heart. I have been so lucky to have Dr's that LISTEN and understand. -
Chell I had to laugh at what you inherited from your dad!
Well, have I mentioned how much I hate cancer and the treatments lately? Saw my MO today. Results of MUGA #5--worsening results of ejection fraction of my heart. So--no herceptin today and repeat MUGA in 4 weeks. If results same or decreased-no herceptin again. Ever. If improved one dose of herceptin and repeat MUGA in 3 weeks, and so on. Am short of breath, tired, tired, tired, and legs and feet puffy at night. Lungs clear so did not have to start drugs for congestive heart failure--yet. 1-2% of women on herceptin develop this. But as my MO pointed out--I have had almost every rare and unusual side effect listed for every drug I have taken. He wants me to "tough out" femera for another month to see if the side effects (bone and joint pain increasing, headaches daily) might fade. If not, will try another drug. I have an appointment with a plastic surgeon and my breast surgeon next Friday to plan the 2nd mastectomy and hopefully start reconstruction. But, with the heart issues--that will be on hold. As a nurse--am well aware no surgeon would touch me. Will continue to wear the 2.5 lb fake boob on the right and have the 34 long on the left! I pointed out to my MO that last year at this time I felt fine. Just fine. But as soon as I let all the docs take control of my body have felt like crap and hurt every day. Something wrong with this picture of "recovery".
Sleep well dear ones.
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to susanhg - you've had just about every problem that's listed with your treatments. Sending ((hugs)) your way.
I almost had a typo and almost sent ughs insstead of hugs! Maybe ughs are what you are feeling! Nat
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Maddie, thanks for asking about my daughter and granddaughter! Baby Emaline is 5 months old, healthy, beautiful, and keeping her mommy hopping, a little sleepless but very happy and healthy. Our wee miracle babe... all my granddaughters (3) have kept me going through all of this. ~smile~
Sooo... I have some new side effects. My hair has stopped growing! It was growing slow but sure, I'm still on herceptin, and I started tamoxifen in December. And suddenly 6 weeks ago, my hair stopped growing. Don't have to shave my legs.. but really, I'd like to know what's up. A ton of other quirks just started, too.. exhaustion, stinging skin, anxiety, tummy issues.
Onc has no answers. My inspirehealth doctor (great resource in British Columbia) figures my mitachondria, responsible for healthy fast growing cells, are not happy. Increased supplements... so we shall see. He happened to be attending a conference on mitachondria in texas last week: apparently the health of mitachondria may play a key role in chemobrain, etc.
Anyway, if anyone else is dealing with a 'turn of events'.. re hair, etc, or has resources, much appreciated. I've definately been in that category of rare reactions through all of this.
And to all.... as I read, I am amazed at the honesty and compassion that eminates from just showing up here. You all rock. ~smile~
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Oh my gosh-my hair has stopped growing also. After 2 full rounds of falling out it actually started growing. Was about an inch and straggly. And a horrid color of almost dirty steel. Went for a trim and a dusting of color. That was a bit over 8 weeks ago. Has not grown a bit since. Hair on the sides has almost crumbled off (guess they were right about no color), hair on top has fallen out in a male pattern baldness. Hair in back has 2 areas of male baldness. Hair in the middle of the top grows straight up-in a Mohawk-of less than 1 inch.
The mitachondria makes perfect sense. Takes me back to beginning biology and the mitachondria is the powerhouse of the cell and all 4 of my children doing a 3D image of the cell. Perfect sense.
Saw my breast surgeon and met with a plastic surgeon yesterday. With my recent issues with Herceptin and the ejection fraction best I am looking at is the left mastectomy this summer after clearance by a cardiologist. Have an appointment Thursday. Already know (as a nurse) he will say-no clearance until the next MUGA on the 21st and see the results. Plastic surgeon said depending on the type of reconstruction I selected surgery ran from 2 hours for TE to 10 hours for varing types of flaps. Know I am not patient enough for the 5 days in hospital and 12 week recovery. Would love input from anyone on reconstruction. Since I have had radiation on my RT will have to go with some of my tissue and a TE. She does not want to do anything until I am back to where I was prior to chemo (I cannot even remember what that felt like--a year ago) and said probably next summer. By the time I left the second office was at the point of saying screw reconstruction will stay flat. Especially after I listened to nipple reconstruction. Hopefully I am overreacting.
Rest well my friends
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Hi Feelingthemagic- my leg hairs and under arm hairs have also stopped growing again!!! I have also had the stinging skin - especially the arms and a mild rash. I am so exhausted and breathless I asked them if they could do a MUGA scan again before the next herceptin- thought maybe my heart was taking some strain. I am soooo glad you are experiencing this also - sorry that sounds bad but you know what I mean!!!! I think maybe the herceptin has some sort of accumaltive effect. Anyway they couldn't do the MUGA scan at such short notice, but tested my blood, urine, did an ECG and a chest X ray. These were all fine which is good, but still felt really bad. Anyway have just got back from 2 weeks of sea and sun and do feel a lot stronger. I only have 2 herceptin left, so am just going to tough it out.
SusanHG123- I can help you with the reconstruction, but only the TE side of it. Is it the flap you want to know about? Please let me know your questions, and I will PM you with all the info you need. I have researched the Te and flap side extensively on another thread- all 45 pages of it, so can give you some good insight on your choices!!! Susan you stopped and started chemo a few times, so I think you may have to wait a little longer for long golden locks!!
Chell45 - as if you didn't have enough to worry about!!! Good luck.
Oh - BIG milestone for me - I had my first hair cut, as I was looking a bit wild and woolly. She took very little off, but just tried to neaten it a bit.
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Alrighty, not that I want to hear that you're having hair and weird stuff happening, Maddie and Susan, but it does feel good to not be alone.
First up, had my last herceptin last week. Whoo hooo!!!!!! made a little video of the event with friends, that might help someone going through this - another friend is editing. Whether we do more with it or not, it was part of the celebration.
My Whine List of strange symptoms, likely due to the mitachondria... well, some things are improving a lot since I started the supplements. less joint pain, less sudden exhaustion (wait.. no sudden exhaustion!) less of all symptoms, but still no new hair growth. I'm counting on that soon. I'll share the supplements I'm taking, but hope that you all have access to a doctor or naturopath who can determine if and what amounts might help you. (My doc for this does base decisions on my bloodwork) Beyond a good multivitamin, vitamin d, calcium, we've added large dose of CoQ 10, plus alpha lipoic acid, advanced B complex. Also have been taking a fish oil, and we recently added Barleans Greens and a whey protein powder. All of the above, organic and high quality. So, Food for thought, literally. ~smile~
Re the breast reconstruction. I had the TE and now have the implant. Nipple to be done in the Fall. All of that has gone very well. I, too, was considering 'keep it simple and least invasive.. just go flat' but umm.. one flat, and one normal ... realized I wouldn't be happy about that. A friend had the flap, and she hangs out with a lot of woman who have been through this. Her advice now is to do the implant, as much as she's happy with the results, she felt the surgery and recoup time wasn't worth it, and that everyone she knows are very happy with the implants. I'm pretty impressed with how my implant matches my happy breast.. which happened to get a little lift to make it all work. (Doc said he couldn't quite match the droop. ha ha ha) My doc has made the nipple sound very simple.. a tuck of the skin on my breast. A tattoo later.
Wishing you all well, wishing us all happy hair, happy bodies, happy minds, happy souls.
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Hi Feelingthemagic- thanks for the supplement tips. Will try them. The leg and axilla hairs are growing again. I don't worry too much about them- I guess they are on a different cycle l-ike the eyebrows. Did you develop a fine rash? I have this constant rash - especially on my arms and the above my knees.
Congrats on your last herceptin. My last one is in 3 weeks time - Yahoo!!! Guess I will see then if it is the herceptin
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Melrose, Thank you SO MUCH for this-- I start on June 25..
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Maddie, no rash.. just a sensation of my skin burning.. and it moves from one area to other and doesn't stay long in each spot. just weird. re hair... isn't hair the weirdest thing? I never lost all my eyelashes, but got down to a very few. And they haven't grown back at all yet. I really hope now herceptin is done, things all improve and its not the tamoxifen creating the havoc!
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to maddie57 - I read in the Mayo Clinic reference on drugs that herceptin commonly causes a rash. Nat
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Hi Nat and Feelingthemagic - thanks so much for the info on the rash. Every time I mention it, the staff look at me as if I am crazy!!! I also get that burning sensation - especially on my arms, So much so that I keep looking to see if there is anything there. I went on a lovely hot air balloon ride last Monday - a present from my lovely Brother-in Law- so that is another thing off my bucket list!!!
Feelingthe magic - I never completely lost all my eyelashes either - just the bottom ones. They have grown and thinned several times. I am using nutrilash on them. One eyelash is thick and curly, and the other set is straight and thin - absolutely bizarre!!!
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Hi ladies- Had my one year check up and mammo on the good side. All clear - seems old faithful will live to droop another day!!! Has anyone tried the stick on nipples, or had nipple reconstruction?
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Maddie--
Congratulations on the good test results! (Sorry I have no info on the nipple issues)
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Tomorrow is a year for our July 2012 chemo group. What a year. I, personally, thought I would have a bilateral mastectomy with perky implants, 4 rounds of chemo and be finished by the end of October. Delusional at best. I will schedule my second mastectomy tomorrow. Am still trying to have herceptin. Hating the side effects of the oral chemo. Also have an itchy rash. *%&^& husband who walked out the day my port was placed is an ex now. But we still have to do a property settlement. He is spending his time running his office to the ground by *%&% his way across the southwest via match, and other sites. I was appointed the permanent Dean of Health after a year as interim and will be teaching some classes again this year. Which will help my sanity.
Some of our July group has dropped off as they are finished with treatment. If/when I finish I may drop away also. For the past year the dear sweet women on this site have been an inspiration daily and I have come to love and respect each.
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Hi Sheila here.
I am starting my AC July 18. Tomorrow I get my port. I am having adnamycin and cytoxan togwther every 2 wks July 18 through Aug 39. Then I start T taxol 4 treatments every 2 wks starting Sept 12 and ending Oct 24. Then 4-8 wks respite before radiation 5 days week for 6 weeks. Surgery was June 12. Getting better but underarm very sore from large area removed due to cancer found in sentinel node biopsy. Lots of nerves.
Let's hold close and we'll get through this! :-)
Happy 4th.
Sheila -
Hi Sheila, You can hang with us, but I think you'll want to also find the group that starts chemo july 2013. This one was started a year ago. Some good humour in this bunch! And good wishes to you for few S.E. and great results!
SusanHG... I know, right? I was also contemplating the year today. I think there ought to be a rule that if you are going through treatments for breast cancer, that everything else in our lives must go right. Lot of crazy in my life... many losses, but I've been pretty surprised and uplifted by the support I've had and I did get some good things done; like finishing some books (somewhat chemo brained- kept shortening sentences that felt like the period would never arrive. Then had to redo them!) lots of playtime with family, so much support from friends. Nice new breast, and now some anxiety and weird tamoxifen effects... such a rollercoaster, isn't it? Wishing you well as you continue treatments. And wishing us all more 'easy' as we go forward. Hugs all.
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Happy Anniversary (??) ladies! Can't believe how quickly time has passed and I am glad to put those 12 months in the books. I believe Queen Elizabeth coined the phrase "Annus Horribilis" in reference to the year her children divorced. Couldn't have said it better myself!
I have been one of the lucky ones who tolerated all treatments well and put BC behind me. At least until I look in a mirror and see the scars. Again, I was one of the lucky ones and had a sucessful lumpectomy and a surgeon who operated with care as to how the final outcome would appear. I am so grateful that times have changed and we have more options available to us now than in the past.
I couldn't have made it thru those months of chemo w/out the support of this board and those who virtually held my hand thru it. I pray that we all reach a point where we can put this behind us.
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Hi - yes - Happy Anniversary ladies. You are a fabulous group of ladies, and I am grateful for each and every one of you. You have been my rocks through all this, and I really mean that. Good luck to you all this year. Chells I LOVE that phrase "Annus Horribilis" - it sounds like just like what it means. Take out one "N" from "Annus"and there you have it!!!
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Hi! What a difference a year makes, huh? I passed the one-year anniversary of my dx without even noticing :-) Maddie, NatL, Chell, FeelingtheMagic, virginiab, it's nice to hear from you all. And Susan I wish you the best as you continue your treatment. I am so sorry you have had such a rough time.
I feel like I came through chemo OK and it would have been so much easier if I'd known in advance that I really would get through it. This thread was a real support and I am grateful to all who participated.
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Ladies,
I had my first chemo in June.....my advice to you is to make sure you drink LOTS of water, rest, take your SE medication as prescribed (no one should have to go through the SE), and don't worry. Day 13 I did start to lose my hair, there isn't any shampoo, or treatment that will totally help on losing your hair. I have been using Nioxin, but it is still coming out. Cold Caps, if you research it well, I would not recommend it, I don't want to take the 1-2 percent chance of cancer going to my head. I'm taking the aggressive treatment to prevent this from ever coming back, why would I want to add any percentages to what I'm trying to Conquer? Good luck ladies, you will all do fine, it's not as bad as you think it is. We are our worse fear....you will be tired, might be a little nauseaed or have constipation or diarrehea, but it is do-able.
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Hi Peg - thanks so much for caring enough to give us a few tips, but we are the 2012 July group not the 2013 group, so we have all finished our chemo.
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I love Annus Horribilis! Perfect. Scheduled 2nd mastectomy for July 24th. Have a lymphoscintigraphy the afternoon prior as it is prophylactic. Anyone have this? Will actually be glad to have this done--with my lumpy bumpy breast every change is an alarm--that is gone the next couple days.
A nice long weekend to each.
Much love
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