Starting Chemo June 2013!?!?!

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  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited June 2013

    Maureenb- I'm almost 11 months PFC after having 6 rounds of Cytoxan/Taxotere.  Yes, my hair has grown back and fortunately, grown back evenly and a little wavy.  It is now about 3 1/2 inches long with a little more grey than before.  I lost most of my hair and had a very sparse veil of hair at the end of my chemo.  My hair started to come back after the 4th round of chemo; but the next round of chemo would take it out again.  I used to rub my head a lot because I found it was very comforting.  My head felt like a velveteen rabbit stuffed animal--- soft and downy.  I was glad to know that my hair follicles were trying to come back since they let me know that my hair would one day return.   The interesting thing is that when we were very little kids, we never focused or thought about our hair.  We would just get up every morning, someone would fix our hair and we just went on our merry way.   I know what you gals are going through with the hair.  No matter what, you are all beautiful everyday!!!!

  • Malika79
    Malika79 Member Posts: 11
    edited June 2013

    Alibeths,



    I am 33 and sitting in the chair getting my second dose as we speak. I am scared but we can get through this and we are here for you! Be strong my sister!

  • sarajaneevans
    sarajaneevans Member Posts: 187
    edited June 2013

    Patty, thanks for the response.. pee factor is also an issue during the chemo--I have always been able to hold for long periods but once I let go and go..its an every five minute occurance.. so the up and down with the paraphanalia is a pain,BUT doable (:

    I had a major headache all night last night-(still have a dull ache this morning) when it was over I had taken six tylenol-I started the treatment with a mild headache as it were, I blamed stress for it- as the day wore on though it didn't go away-- and only continued to worsen as the evening progressed.. so not sure if maybe the chemo the chemo did attribute to some of it-I call my oncolgy nurse in a bit to report in and I will memtion it to her- I know it is one of the milder side effects of chemo-- and belive me I am not complaiing..I know I am fortunate as it could be much worse......

    @maureenb, I am sorry to hear you had sucn a difficult first treatment ):I am also getting taxotere and read the same thing as you about permanent hair loss. I posed the same question elsewhere on this board, problem is I don't know where or if it was ever addressed.. but it scares the watts out of me.. I don't mind losing but I want it all restored once this war is over.. not sure that is doable though.. Did you have a Pet Scan? Mine,thankfully showed no new tumors, so we are agressively going after the cells that are trying to work their magic.  I am sorry you are having such a diffcult time.. try to remember to drink lot of water to get all the toxins out of your body- flush, flush, someplace here patty has a list of good guidelinse to follow for getting through this- maybe ask her where it is so you can make a copy to have with you...I hope you feel better today and even more bettr each day following.. keep the fiath and try to just take one day at time.. God Bless.....

  • sarajaneevans
    sarajaneevans Member Posts: 187
    edited June 2013

    Melrosemeir, I had to laugh about your post and being a child and not thinking about our hair- My hair as a little girl and growing up certainly defined me in my family- nothing special about it really as I can tell-I was a towhead with straight hair but for some reason it became my shining glory. I can't count the number of pictures my mother took of me with my back to her so she could capture my hair from the back.I used to wonder if I was really that ugly from the front view-- I didn't dare go out of the house without brushing my hair-mother worked so I did it myself. One day after spending the night with my grandmother, I struck out for home to get ready for schol without brushing my hair, it was 6 am.But when mother got home she already knew my gratest sin.. she had received three calls about my indescretion from neighbors who saw my blousy little head uncombed and passing by their house that morning.. Needless to say I am hair freak to this day--regardless of how else I look, hair got to look good or I don't leave this house-  LOL LOL

  • annika12
    annika12 Member Posts: 433
    edited June 2013

    I really thought I was ready......now the day before my first A/C I feel the panic coming crawling , feels like someone is sitting on my chest !!! Running around like a mad woman making my kids clean the house,plant flowers, do laundry and grocery shop !! Taking them swimming in a bit then dinner, dog walk and horse visit . Haven't touched the xanax I got first week of diagnosis but I just might tonight and tomorrow :/ . Having the first round in the hospital but visited there the other day and they were all so very nice !!! Hope everyone is having a good day :)

  • Dyvgrl
    Dyvgrl Member Posts: 471
    edited June 2013

    Annika12, can feel the panic too, my nurse just told me I was tentatively scheduled for the 2nd for my first AC. Instantly my heart started racing. I hate waiting, it's so stressful. And my house is a hot mess!! I so need it Spick and Span before treatment. Just a mental must have for me. Been so tired and sore from surgery, the housework slips. Sigh and we're going camping this weekend....

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited June 2013

    sarajaneevans- Your post just made me laugh.  Hopefully as your hair takes a vacation, you will be able to hold that head of yours high, no matter the amount of hair on your head.  At this point, i keep getting asked if I'm going to cut my hair and keep it super short.  Now mind you, it is short now.  I had waist length hair at the time of diagnosis in Feb. 2o12.  I think the questions about whether I'm going to keep it super short rather amusing and funny.  I'm trying to continue my hair science experiment that I started in May 2012.  Right before my 2nd chemo, I cut my hair super super boy cut short and never have trimmed it or cut it since then.  I just wanted to see what the chemo would do to my hair and see if the chemo would take it all.  Now I'm on the other part of my experiment to see what my hair follicles do post chemo and to see how much time it takes to grow my hair to the tops of my shoulders.  No matter what, it's all good....

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited June 2013

    To whoever was looking for free head coverings...

    Try the llook good feel better by the American Cancer Society.

    Click in this link and enter your zip code (near right middle of the page)

    http://lookgoodfeelbetter.org/



    Also try this website for a free head covering

    http://www.goodwishesscarves.org/



    And final thought, please PM me..I might have something to send to you.

    Thanks,

    Pat

  • Moonflwr912
    Moonflwr912 Member Posts: 6,856
    edited June 2013

    You are all in my prayers. I am 12 months PFC. My hair is curly, but its back. It didn't really fall out until after my 2 tx. I will repeat, Hydrate, hydrate, hydrate. Especially after the third day after tx, when the steroids wore off. That was when I felt the least like drinking. Especially if you get diarrhea, like a few of us did. Constipation was the norm. You will get through this and the friendships on this thread help you know you are not alone. You will get through this. Small and few SEs, and Much Love.

  • dlm425
    dlm425 Member Posts: 209
    edited June 2013

    Maureenb i feel the same way and have one lymph node positive I said to my onc I could just take tamoxifen and be fine and cancer free and he said "absolutely" But I don't have a crstytal ball. Had thinking twice...... As I read your post I giggled even though its not funny I feel ghr same way.

  • dlm425
    dlm425 Member Posts: 209
    edited June 2013

    Chemo tomorrow yuck round 2!

  • Dyvgrl
    Dyvgrl Member Posts: 471
    edited June 2013

    Good luck dlm! Start round 1 on Tues. Waiting around right now for my 3D echo prior. Tomorrow is my chemo class and blood work.

  • SherryMarshall
    SherryMarshall Member Posts: 39
    edited June 2013

    Kmurphy: my hospital gave me a free wig, the American Cancer Society does, and also, if you have insurance, your doctor can write you a prescription for a wig up to $500 (at least that is how much my insurance will pay, Anthem Healthkeepers). Best of luck getting wigs.

    I think I might like the scarves I have.

    Invite your friends over for a scarf swap. That way you can have new scarves. OR, maybe a friend can send you some, if you private message them your information. (wink, wink) {{{{{{Group Hugs}}}}}}

    SN:The wigs from the ACS are always new.

  • SherryMarshall
    SherryMarshall Member Posts: 39
    edited June 2013

    Dlm and Dyvgrl: best wishes for NO se. Take plenty to do. I watched tv and read these threads. The time flew by.

    Anyone have lower back pain...like a bladder infection? I have such a nagging pain. Oh well, I guess it is better than what I could have.

    {{{{{{{Group Hugs}}}}}}

  • Alibeths
    Alibeths Member Posts: 656
    edited June 2013

    Good luck tomorrow!!!!! Just finished #2!!!!

  • maureenb
    maureenb Member Posts: 81
    edited June 2013

    Dlm and Alibeths-   keep us posted on how you're doing after #2.  I hope it gets better... or at least easier to deal with because you know what to expect.  

    Melrose-  loved hearing about your hair- thanks for sharing.  It kept trying to come back!  That's so encouraging.  Like "The Little Engine That Could."  :)  Funny because my mom used to tell stories that I was completely bald as a child for a long time and they used to tape bows to my head.  Think I could get away with that now?  I could start a new trend.  

    xoxoxo to all of you Ladies and have a great night--

  • Netter
    Netter Member Posts: 107
    edited June 2013

    2nd round is finished!!!!!  I am feeling good!!!!  Drinking lots of water.  I asked my nurse about taxotere and permanent hair loss.  She had not heard of it happening to anyone.  She said if you have to have radiation on your brain that it would be permanent hair loss because it kills the follicles.  That is all that she had heard about.  I was given a patch to put behind my ear and phenegran, hopefully it will make a difference this time.  Will know in 2 days...................

  • Alibeths
    Alibeths Member Posts: 656
    edited June 2013

    Feeling way more nauseous this time!!!! Ugh.

  • IngridJ
    IngridJ Member Posts: 121
    edited June 2013

    Hi everyone,

    Good luck Netter, Dlm, Dyvgirl, Annika, and anyone I've missed. Thanks Moonflwr and Melrose, always nice to hear your encouragement from post chemo land...

    Am on day 3 post chemo 2, feeling good so far.. Forgot to take steroid until late last night so was awake until 1.... Have done that both times now...

    Feel a bit cold/flu like this morn..

    No neausea or really bad se's at all this time. Spent yesterday out in sun all day feeling fine...

    now...Wondering if they put enough in.. I had lost weight at first weigh in, then put on about 3 kgs after first chemo so maybe I should have pointed that out.. I think they stick to/keep dosage from first one...

    Oh well...

    Maureen; feel for you... look on it as insurance....And it will be over in a relatively short time.. Chemo isn't the easy route that's for sure, was looking mournfully at pic of me with hair yesterday...And was looking at all my bottles of hair care products with a wry smile...

    Anyone doing the cold caps here??

    Every round over is another one done anyway. I asked my onc if I could do the TC every 2 weeks instead of three. Want it over... Too hard on the body he said...

    Another month of this seems better than six weeks.

    Take care everyone, hope all goes well.. As to permanent hair loss, don't want to even contemplate.. I'd be getting the worlds most expensive wig I guess and getting on with it I guess. More to life than hair!!!

    Oh, the only thing I did differently this time was drink about a gallon of orange Gatorade the first night: not sure if that helped but really compared to first one this one was a walk/rollerblade in the park!!!!!!

    So far anyway..fingers crossed... inga x

  • IngridJ
    IngridJ Member Posts: 121
    edited June 2013

    Just saw your post Alibeths...

    Stay on top with anti neausea pill..

    Hope you feel better..

  • Jorman
    Jorman Member Posts: 5
    edited June 2013

    New here am a man with breast cancer going thru chemo 1st was the 12th next on the 3rd. Also have had back pain but only after 4ish every day The week after the first treatment was lots of pain all over. Heard Claritin helps any one try that?

  • Melrosemelrose
    Melrosemelrose Member Posts: 3,018
    edited June 2013

    Jorman- There is an ongoing clinical trial about the use of Claritin to help prevent the bone pain from the Neulasta shot/Neupogen shots  ( clinical trial link: http://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT01311336?term=claritin+neulasta&rank=1 ).  According to that clinical trial drug protocol, one takes one regular 24 hour Claritin ( NOT Claritin D) for 7 days beginning the day of the Neulasta/Neupogen is administered.  With that being said, the Claritin may or may not work for you.  Just have to remember that depending upon the type of chemo you are receiving, muscles aches and joint pain may still be a side effect of the chemo and not the Neulasta/Neupogen shot.  What chemo regimen are you on?

  • VAL1966
    VAL1966 Member Posts: 37
    edited June 2013

    Round 2 tomorrow 😁😁😁 hoping for no NAUSEA I can handle the rest!!

  • Gingergirl1
    Gingergirl1 Member Posts: 36
    edited June 2013

    Jorman - sorry to hear about your diagnosis.



    I had back spasms that lasted a little over a day, they eventually it went away.



    Good luck to everyone else who had their treatment today. I also had my second cycle today, minus the herceptin, which they will resume if my irregular heartbeat checks out from my echo.



    I am just starting to lose my hair now after 21 days. I'm sure it will be gone after this one! Oh well as long as it grows back!



    I hope the second one isn't too much different than the last one. Neulasta shot tomorrow. I'll try Claritin again. It really dried my sinuses out last time with headache. It could also be the chemo, who knows.



    Still not back in our house after the floods in Alberta, hopefully soon, have to throw out all the spoiled food in fridge and freezer. Don't think our house flooded as we are at the highest spot in our town.



    Hugs to everyone!

  • Pattysmiles
    Pattysmiles Member Posts: 954
    edited June 2013

    Jorman, sorry you join the ranks of those with breast cancer. When I was diagnosed with breast cancer I was surprised to learn that men get breast cancer too.



    Claritan 24 has worked for me to ward off bone pain associated with the Neulasta shot. I take it the morning of my Neulasta shot and one each morning for the next 7 days.

    My oncologist never heard of this. She indicated that there was a SMALL chance of bone pain and that it "isn't that bad". I would prefer to ward it off if possible. When I go for Neulasta shot the nurse said I am the ONLY patient she has that can tolerate the full shot.



    If you did have the Nuelasta shot they can lower the dosage the next time around if you had the associated bone pain....you can still ask about using the Claritan 24.

    Pat

  • Jorman
    Jorman Member Posts: 5
    edited June 2013

    Thanks for the info. Gonna try the Claritin. I'm on Cytoxan, Taxotere. My counts were just ok due to the shot. Will rather deal with pain then worry about lower counts. My wife is a saint and has taken up all the slack with our kids when Im doing bad. Good luck to everyone who had there treatment today. And thanks for the support. There's not much for men going thru this and this has helped knowing if I need help or questions or support there is a place to go.

  • SherryMarshall
    SherryMarshall Member Posts: 39
    edited June 2013

    Jorman Welcome!

    We are on the same treatment. I got my 1st round on the 20th and the next on July 11th! I took Claritin and had very minimal joint pain. Walking around helps! If you go to earlier pages, MelroseMelrose posted great tips that I printed and used most every tip! (Thanks Melrose!!!!!!) VERY helpful. Best wishes on no side effects, and once again, {{{{{{Group Hugs}}}}}}

  • Gma04
    Gma04 Member Posts: 62
    edited June 2013

    Hi, ckmoss. Looks like we will be starting chemo about the same time. I've had a few problems along the way after a mx right side with ex had an everlasting drain finally was re moved. Well guess what I got infection. So ex pander hd to be removed prematurely. Waited for infection to clear up. I got port last wk. waiting for blood wk report. Then start chemo. YUCK!!! Please keep me posted.

    Gma04

  • dlm425
    dlm425 Member Posts: 209
    edited June 2013

    Sorry for anyone joining in it Sucks but it is all doable!!! Chemo is very hard on our body and we have to stay on top of the se so keep taking them Clariton,zofran,ativan.,compazine.,decardron and anything else try weed too helps so much with nausea...Round 2 today. Where is ocean and rain have not heard from them in days hope all is ok. Be well be strong. Xoxo

  • anniej76
    anniej76 Member Posts: 33
    edited June 2013

    I'm 36 and starting chemo on Tuesday.  I'm scared too.  The past 2 months have been a whirlwind for me.  I'm trying the Penguin Cold Caps to save my hair (I have long thick hair).  Looking into my freezer seeing all those containers of caps made me cry last night - whose life is this?!?!  So surreal right now.  I've had a double mastectomy with expanders, 26 nodes removed, lost my left nipple, and have a port.  I don't recognize my upper body right now.  Any words of support would be great.  Love these forums.

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