Charleston Bound, part 2
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No ping pong balls for me either. Girls may be small but want them happy.
A patient of Dr S n houston had bilateral diep and her breasts were horizontal looking. Tried fat grafting numerous times to fill in top but almost zip took. She was considering baby implants. Was shocked because she started with TE to implant and had massive infection and on wound vac and IV antibiotics for 200+ days. Major probs.
But we all make our own choices to feel our best. -
The difference is if you have just implants, you can have many issues. But adding a small implant to DIEP Flap is not that different from an augmentation. The implant is behind the flap, so you can't see/feel it as much. I don't want one, but if it were the only solution to fix a problem, I would consider it. I say this because I have an issue that I hope can be fixed surgically or with some fat grafting, but I am preparing myself for the suggestion of a small implant.
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Betsy,
So it's under flap but not under pec muscle? Implant trashed my pecs on rads side big time. -
Its definitely not under the pec... and I believe it is under the flap, but can't say for sure... and may not be 100% behind the flap, but rather buried within the fat. I am sure there is an explanation somewhere... I know what I said up above sounds like I know what I am talking about, but I don't know that much about it except what I have heard in passing. I know it was offered to me by Dr Dellacroce as a way to supplement my flaps.
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Lbrewer - my SGAP and PAP flaps are so soft and really feel like breasts do normally (still working on symmetry and filling in) that I think an implant might defeat the purpose. My intent was to NOT have foreign material in my body if I could help it. Like BDavis said, great lengths to not have implants. Would it be heavier and sag or create sag with the natural recon? Would be very interested to find out what Dr K says!
Hugs
Catie -
Hi friends,
Pink heart-happy you will see Charleston and that you will meet Catie and sewanne
Would love to meet you all if we ever are there at the same time.
I am fine from accident and finished first chemo. Side effects were a little rough on day 3,4,5. I tried the Claritin but it didn't help much. I have no problem asking for pain meds if I need them and my onc gave me loratab. Only needed it for 3 days.
Flaps hurt sometime but overall ok. I still don't have full range of motion but if it weren't for chemo I would be fantastic.
Have CT scans scheduled next week. Nothing suspected. He just wants a baseline.
Fear is the worst complication I've had. Once I gave that over to God, I've been doing better.
Wishing you all healing and a very happy week! -
CRS - I LOVE your 'fear is the worst complication I've had" !!!
Very much one of the best quotes I've heard!
After church today I told my husband that from now on when people ask how I'm doing I'm just going to say fine - I'm tired of saying otherwise and what's the use anyway! I know what I signed up for, it's a process and beats the alternatives I had given to me.
It helps sometimes to get back to the beginning of the process to realize that it is at least a couple of stages to get the results desired. Never did any of this become a one step thing for me. When I told DH that I have scheduled a November surgery date to get within this years deductible he was surprised - thinking I'd be done in July. July has always been fat grafting for symmetry for the sides to be equal, not knowing how much will 'take' - good thing I have BCO where the ladies 'get it'
There is a get together in Las Vegas every year, would be great to go there to see other BCO ladies, but with surgery in July, November AND think of Las Vegas in September I don't see any way to afford it all.
Maybe next year we Charleston ladies can have mini get together in the off time so the rates are better by the beach?
CRS continued hopes for a peaceful chemo journey with little SE!
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crs,
I finished my ACT last November. Its rough, but you'll get through. I got Emend for the nausea. I'll be thinking og you.
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I too love the quote " fear is my worst complication"...very honest words CRS.
Catie, it is a process. My first try with implant recon, I just wanted the quickest and easiest solution...I thought, millions of women get implants every year, how hard can it be? Well little did I know after 9 months of painful expansion, 3 surgeries and exchange followed by a serious infection, I ended up with a disfigured chest and emotional trauma. A process indeed.
Before I had my Sgap, I knew that it was a 3 step process(at least), I prepared myself mentally, physically, financially and proceeded with confidence while others around me questioned my motives, reasons and my sanity. It hasnt always been easy but no regrets. I too believe it has helped me to look back at pictures of where I started and how far I have come. Wish I would have photo journaled from the beginning. Of course others don't really understand, but you ladies "get it" and yes, sometimes it is just easier to say " I'm fine". Altho,I am not sure I even know what "fine" is anymore....sigh.
6 week update on nipple: It is looking good, healthy and pink and my stitches have finally dissolved. I will protect it for another 2 weeks then see if I get the ok to go without. Don't want it to shrink anymore. The hardest part for me is not the nipple protector itself, that actually is fine, but it is the tape holding it in place. I have tried them all and Chris sent me the surgical tape that seems to stick the best, but my surrounding skin has become sensitive and irritated. I recently came up with a pretty good solution, think I read about it somewhere on one of the other threads. I cut a hole in the middle of a round makeup sponge, because it is rubbery it does not slide around and pretty much stays in place with a bra or cami. I use this during the day and switch over to the tupperware dome at night because I toss and turn all night long. Problem solved!
Have also begun having annoying arthritic like pain mostly in my hands,but also knees and feet. I am assuming it is from the tamoxifen(easy target), I remember having it when I first started it 3 years ago, but weird that it has started up again. Off to the store to buy some glucosamine and chrondroitin.
"It's always something" ....Rosanne Rosannadanna(Gilda Radner)
Hope you all have a lovely week.
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Cascader,
So well said ... Thanks, really needed your thoughts today.
I now have my two brothers and SILs on board now understanding that what I'm going through is a process.
Just sent pictures to their wives who then asked if they could show my brothers. They are in shock at what I've been through. Then so were my brothers. They didnt act embarassed, just shocked, too.
Wasn't looking for sympathy -- just wanting family to understand I am not trying to get best boob job in the USA.
Yet my husband and sister and mother think I should learn to just live with it (pain and all).
My biggest complication?
Lack of support from husband . . .
and sister and mother.
So glad you all get it, but so sorry you got it (BC), too! -
Pink, I can't imagine not having support of your family. My hubs, mama & son have been great. I did get aggravated when Tommy had shingles (vented on here a few times) bcs he acted like no one had ever been that sick & he had a light case. I knew he was hurting, but......
Anyway, they onco changed me from tamoxifen to Arimedex. It's giving me fits with the bone pain!! But, tamoxifen did at first, too. Then it got bearable, so I am hoping that is the case here, too.
Found out today my BP is high and sugar was, too. So now, I'm off to the GP to get that checked out. All I want is normal again.
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Aww ladies, wish there was a magic pill we could all take to rewind time and just take us all back to before bc!!!
Pink, we are all here for you and so sorry immediate family (DH, DD etc) aren't getting it. Ketch, my DH is sick a couple of times a year and it is HORRIBLE - or so he says, then something comes up he wants to do and it's a miracle! He's cured with just a phone call!
Cascader- THANK YOU! And also for the nipple update - you are the "big sis" for nipple info!
We will all get through this and hearing that plant route wasn't easier, quicker or safer helps to remember why I am doing this. Just so irritating sometimes when I get that rolling of the eyes when someone says: "oh, your all done with it now, right?" And I reply " no, have surgery scheduled for 7/11 and 11/15. THEN the eyeballs roll, the eyebrows raise and I wish I wasn't so danged honest! I think they think I'm looking for the perfect boobs too, Pink!
Maybe I will learn how to flash! Then moon, so they will see that it's not perfection but finishing the process!! Think that will work?? -
My iPhone doesn't like the word IMPLANT and makes it plant - sorry !!
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Yes, I know the rolling of the eyes and raised eyebrows accompanied with , more surgery? I found myself trying to explain , to justify, not only was it frustrating but hurtful also. Forge ahead ladies, this is your body ,your life, trust your instincts and be your own advocate. Don't let other's ignorance get you down.
Pink, I am sorry, it must be difficult, stay focused and strong! We will continue to be your support system whenever you need .
Catie, flashing and mooning... I like it! -
CRS - sorry we'll miss you but I'll be thinking of you. Glad this bout of chemo is over.
Cathie - The mini get together sounds great! I am at the beach below Charleston now and if we had a few of us we could split the cost of a house.
Cascader - you are so right about its being a process. One of my breasts is sort of snub-nosed right now and my fanny is still really sore at the crossroads of the incisions. My husband always remindse "it's a process" when I get tired. And I am having my fourth procedure in December.
I should probably consider the "no explanation" approach too as everyone wants to know about the chemo even though I've said it was preventative or wants to know about the gene ... Tired of justifying my thought process to others, even those I know care. -
Pink - big (((hug))). At least you will always have empathy for others. Makes you a better person.
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Hey everyone! I hope everyone is enjoying the summer. I'm one week away from my stage 2 SGAP in beautiful Charleston. Just getting the basics done. I welcome any words of wisdom from those who have gone before. Anything special I need to take or do?
Many thanks.
Sandi
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Sandi, I will just miss you, going in 3 weeks, unless you are still in town! If so, we should meet. Pinkheart and Sewannee will be there about the same time as I am (we go in a day apart, with Pink first, me second and Sewannee third! Would be fun to add you to our plan to share 'colors' if you are getting fat grafting too.
I would ask for the pillows (the soft ones they give you at the hospital) so you can use them as needed. Not knowing what you are getting done, if you are having the SGAP revised or just tweaking the flaps?
Congrats and keep us posted!
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Sandi,
Suggestions? Don't go kayaking too soon after surgery. I got very ill even though the guide did all the paddling. Got busted by Dr K.
You will have it made if you have just fat grafting. I had flaps lifted and rotated and major revisions for stage twos. Fat grafting too.
Wish I could have had more time to visit you at your December stage one. Sounds like you are doing well. Take care! -
anyone tried warrior princess nipple protector things?
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i remember using something i bought in the nursiing section in target. they were dome things with ventilation holes and my bra held them in place.
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Sandi, You've got this! Just remeber lots of water, vit c and protein. Rest and slow walks on the beach.
lbrewer, it sounds like what East Cooper Hosp gave me after nip recon. Have it on now! If you have access to the picture forum, I posted a picture of the nipple protector that Dr. K uses.
Renewed my gym membership and started back to yoga today. Feel like an 85year old women, sure hope this tamox related arthritis dissapears as quick as it came on. I'm going to be sore tomorrow.
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cascader--- I have rheumatoid arthritis, and I've never had luck with yoga. The joint twisting actually brings on attacks for me. Pilates works well though... the movements are a little more straight. I guess it gives you more strength than flexibility, but the muscle strengthening helps protect the joints so stretching is less traumatic.
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Thanks jeskachi, I have always wanted to do Pilates . The gym I go to has drop in classes but you must take the intro course first which isn't offered very often. Maybe they will in the fall. I don't seem to be any worse today surprisingly ,mostly it is my hands that ache. Do you take meds for your RA?
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Thanks everyone for your suggestions. Definitely no water sports this time but maybe a walk on the beach. Don't know what I would have done without the pillows from stage 1.
Pinkheart, I don't blame you for trying the kayak thing. I would have liked to talk to you longer last time, but I think my nurse was afraid if I stopped, she might not get me moving again.
Just doing fat grafting and refining this time. Definitely ready to be done with this step so I can finish up later in the year (fingers crossed). I wish my schedule would allow me to plan my surgery when others are there. I would love to meet all of you. It would be nice to talk to someone who understands that this isn't a one time thing. Very excited about going to Charleston again but not about the drive.
Take care all.
Sandi
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What pillows are you talking about? Does the hopsital give you pillows to takr with you?
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Lbrewer - the pillows you use from the hospital that are soft are 'throw away' and they will give you those if you ask for them - they don't give you the pillow slips so bring some pillow slips - but the pillows are very good to use in so many ways!!!
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regular pillow slips? are they that size?
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My surgery is coming up fast and I'm getting excited but scared too. My recovery from my first surgery was hard. It was supposed to be a DIEP BUT they ended up taking some of the muscle. And I had a bulge too. Hoping my SGAP goes easier. Not sure I can do this again.
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Lbrewer, so hoping for the best for you! I judged my second surgery by the complications I encountered after my first surgery- which totally didn't happen the second time! I was concerned as well, needlessly. My body seems to do funny things - not normal 😝but I wouldn't change a thing, strange to say, maybe a little less dehissing - but all in all I can see the light hopefully at the ever getting closer end of the tunnel!
But I do feel and acknowledge your concerns, truly - just hoping all goes well for you!
Hugs
Catie
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