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  • jayjayc
    jayjayc Member Posts: 69
    edited June 2013

    hi all,



    I need to whine a little....



    I'm normally pretty emotional, nervous and a worry wart.... but discovered that when really bad stuff happens (like getting cancer) I go into cave mode (i.e. keep your head down and one step at a time)..... so it's only been since I've completed chemo on April 2nd that I've really started to wake up emotionally (i.e. getting highs and lows).... So I started last week really high because it was the first week since January where I had NO treatments (I'd finished rads the Friday before)..... I actually started thinking about being done and getting my life back...... and most importantly not thinking about the big c anymore.......



    And then boom...... reality check..... I had a regular check on Friday with my MO and she's all about what's next..... i.e. scheduling me for my next herceptins, telling me it's time for my next heart test and it's time for my first post surgery mammo........ just image a overly filled ballon zipping around the room as it loses air..... I mean how stupid could I be this is never over...... and of course I was stupid enough to make it even worse by asking why no one ever talked to me about the BRAC test back when I was first dx.... her response was oopphss we didn't do that test...... and suddenly she wants me to get it... when I ask her why I would want to get the test now she says "because you might want to get a double mastectomy"....... WTF!!!!!!!! I JUST FINISHED WITH THE RADS I HAD TO GET BECAUSE OF THE LUMPECTOMY...... I left the office in a very down mood...



    Okay whining is over...... and I do know that there IS light ahead in this tunnel.. And thanks for listening (assuming anyone actually waded through this rant)...

  • melody46
    melody46 Member Posts: 279
    edited June 2013

    Jayjay that does sound like a downer but I believe you are on the downhill.  I cant believe she's never offered you the test, and now you've done all that treatment and she's talking about mastectomy???  I'd be severely pissed off

  • LW0919
    LW0919 Member Posts: 196
    edited June 2013

    Today is my final chemo...#6. The last one. We'll be doing this one the old school way in the arm since I am now portless. Though the area is still swollen and feels like 1/2 of a baseball is lodged undr the skin and is still painful. Suppossedly this can be normal? And that it may take up to 6-8 weeks for all the swelling to go away. My MO explained that if they can't find good vens in my left arm they will use my right arm even though I had lymph nodes removed. Supposedly the risk for lymphedemia is low and it is outweighed by the need to complete chemo. I just hope the left one is doable.



    I have had 2 1/2 hrs sleep due to steroids even though I took two klonipin before going to bed. I guess we know which RX is stronger! At this point I can't wait to take more steroids so that I can make it through the day....I want to enjoy it!



    Sasha10: congrats on your upcoming final chemo. Yay for you! I know it can't get here soon enough.



    Andymc: I think the hair thing is going to be a source of torment or us all for quite some time. I noticed my poodle fuzz started growing in the last couple of weeks but wonder if it was in vain and will be falling out after today. I want my freakin hair back too and know I'm going to be really impatient about it.



    Jayjay: rant away! This is the best place to do it, the perfect outlet. I've had my moments on here most of us have, you have every right to be angry the BRAC test is an important tool in trying to determine the INITIAL treatment plan and I'm sorry you didn't have the benefit of that due to their negligence. I hope it comes back negative for you.

  • IamNancy
    IamNancy Member Posts: 1,158
    edited June 2013

    jayjay - sounds like your MO needs to slow down and be more considerate.. I realize we will be going to these doctors forever - it still needs to feel like the treatments are over, we need time to just live.. I don't think I ever had the BRAC test either... and at this point, I am not even asking about it.

    LW - I never had a port but should have .. the nurses hated seeing me come in because they never could find a vein - they'd take turns sticking me sometimes 4xs before they found a good vein.. they would never use the other arm because of the lymph nodes -and we could see good veins there.. my BS said they should have used the other arm as she said it would have been fine.. but they wouldn't. Good luck to you today and I know you'll be so glad this step is over!

  • slv58
    slv58 Member Posts: 1,216
    edited June 2013

    Hi Ladies, well tomorrow is my surgery. I am nervous but also glad to have this C out of me! For some reason this last week I have been feeling a slight discomfort in the area of tumour. Has anyone had this? I'm so nervous it's growing back now that I am a month PFC.

    This has been quite a journey and I have always appreciated the support my fellow feb chemo friends have given me. Going into surgery with a positive attitude, just scared!

  • tangles
    tangles Member Posts: 508
    edited June 2013

    slv I always had discomfort in my BC side. I complained to my family Dr a year before all this and she said the discomfort wouldn't be related to BC. Of course towards the end the discomfort got really bad that's when I went in to get a mam. I never had a lump just discomfort.

    LW I am jumping for JOY for you!! I remember 2 wks ago today my last chemo I was SO HAPPY that day in in such a good mood!! I hope you get mild SE!!

    Jayjayc vent all you want!!! I was told by my Dr this will take a year from your life and I am going with that. I know with all the test and Her2 treatments and rads it will be a year. I just keep praying the worst is behind me. The surgery I have in a few weeks cant be as bad as the mascetomy and the rads cant be as bad as chemo. I just keep reminding myself the worst is behind me. Don't get me wrong I cry to my hubby about my weight gain, hair loss, bordem, loss of energy, TE pain I could go on and on. He is so sick of me crying and complaining!! Good luck with your test, Im sure it will be negative unless you have a big family history of BC Mine was negative as no one else but elderly in my family had BC. I got the honer of being the only one!!

  • melody46
    melody46 Member Posts: 279
    edited June 2013

    LW & SLV so happy for you and sending positive vibes your way

  • McKatherine
    McKatherine Member Posts: 300
    edited June 2013

    Yay for final chemo LW!



    Slv - hope your surgery went well!



    My surgery is the 27th. I have my pre-op appointments next week.



    Hugs everyone! (Gentle ones, of course!). :)

  • Gina925
    Gina925 Member Posts: 35
    edited June 2013

    Chemo is now done. I cant even believe I've finally made it.

    Tangles- Im told they want a flatter surface for radiation, not a point or a larger mound I guess. I will re ask this when I see the ps and I will for sure run it by the onco radiologist when I have my consult on the 17th to see what their response is too.

    On another note....My skin is real thin from the mastectomy and the te's are poking me to the point that I can start to see a red mark on the outside of my skin where a te seam must be rubbing. It worries me. My bs said that my ps may have to put a patch inside of some sort when he does the swap out to make the skin thicker to hold the implant better. That is pretty far away, still not sure how they can wait. I wonder if he starts filling me if that will help. I havent had very many fills due to the stitches being put in twice.

    does anybody know if they reuse the first incisions to do the swap out or do they now make a new incision underneath. Just wondering

  • LW0919
    LW0919 Member Posts: 196
    edited June 2013

    Aaaahhh!!! It is done, final chemo was on Thursday and final Neulasta shot today! What a freaking relief! It hit me today after the Neulasta shot and I was walking out of the building and was even more relieved than yesterday. Done! Thank you Jesus! I don't have to see that place for a long time. So yes, the SE's are coming but they are the last ones!



    Gina925: I'm glad to have the port out but glad I was able to get 5 treatments out of it. It was no fun having them dig for veins for the last one. So sorry you had to go through that for all of yours.



    Now, I just have to do another mammogram (kind of leary about it seeing as how the first one went) and 33 rad treatments but at least there is a 3-4 week reprieve. I have to wait until my incision for port removal heals.



    I'm getting out of town a week from Sunday, going to the beach for some much needed R&R and some celebration! I can't wait. I have scarves and a big floppy hat, a swimsuit cover up and tons of sunscreen, and a big, beautiful, new beach house courtesy of someone special who is so giving and fantastic! We won't have to worry about the expense of a place to stay! Thank goodness for insurance but there are still some pretty big bills to pay!!



    Here's to a great weekend to us all!

  • LakeGirl2
    LakeGirl2 Member Posts: 68
    edited June 2013

    Congrats LW and enjoy your beach week.  I head to the beach a week after next an am stocked up like you.  I did buy 2 buffs from Planet Buff which I have been wearing with the halo - feels pretty comfortable although our weather has been cool lately.   After I return, I am also on to rads which has got to be better than chemo!

  • TMM60
    TMM60 Member Posts: 190
    edited June 2013

    Way to go LW! So nice about the beach house- enjoy!

  • tangles
    tangles Member Posts: 508
    edited June 2013

    Gina my PS said he uses the same scar to place the implants!

    Congrats gals on being DONE! Even though I have to go for Her2 treatments for a year plus Rads still knowing the Chemo part is over is such a huge relief. I am 2 wks PFC and am feeling a little better, but if I do too much it is still hitting me. Im sure I will start feeling pretty good right before I go into surgery in a few weeks!

    UGH hoping the worst is behind all of us!!

  • IamNancy
    IamNancy Member Posts: 1,158
    edited June 2013

    LW - congrats on being finished with chemo... and I hope you enjoy the beach and beach house... its so nice to have something fun to look forward to ..

  • slv58
    slv58 Member Posts: 1,216
    edited June 2013

    Hi everyone, I am home and resting very comfortably. I'm a bit upset because no one came to talk to me or my family after surgery. Also, not knowing how long an average person takes to wake up, it seems my surgery took a lot longer,I went in at 1:15 and didn't wake up till 4:00. No one has said anything and when I asked how many lymph nodes they took out,it was not marked on my chart! Of course surgeon was not available- I assume she was 1.5 hours late for next surgery. I have a bandage over the 10:00 area of right breast, but no incision in armpit, so I'm not even sure they did a snb! Now I have to wait till mon. And try and get some answers. I'm not I pressed, and am worried.

  • LW0919
    LW0919 Member Posts: 196
    edited June 2013

    Slv58: I am so sorry! The unknown and waiting for answers is absolutely the hardest part. I hope you can find some peace this weekend, at least enough to get you through until Monday when you can get some answers.

  • slv58
    slv58 Member Posts: 1,216
    edited June 2013

    Thanks LW,not knowing is the hardest, I wish I was thinking more clearly when I left last night! I honestly just wanted to get home and was thinking if there was anything bad, they would have told me,but now I'm wondering g if they even did the snb!

  • IamNancy
    IamNancy Member Posts: 1,158
    edited June 2013

    slv - that is really awful that no one talked to you after the surgery... the surgeon should have been available!! hopefully you will be able to rest this weekend.

  • TMM60
    TMM60 Member Posts: 190
    edited June 2013

    Slv58- I'd be upset about that too! So sorry that you have that worry when you should be resting and relaxing after surgery.

  • DiZZyMom
    DiZZyMom Member Posts: 245
    edited June 2013

    Congrats to you ladies that finished this week and enjoy your beach trip LW!

    So sorry for your surgery experience Slv58, I hope you get the answers quick and some peace of mind.

    I had my first herceptin only TX yesterday. Nice to know I won't feel like a truck hit me next week AND no neulasta shot with it's wonderful SEs. Tangles, the tears are still getting better. Not gone but less everyday.

    I am pulling the cancer card today, I rarely do! We are going to a graduation pool party and with my two little ones, somebody has to be in the water with them. But with one boob, no hair and being completely out of shape from barely working out over the past six months, no way in Hell am I getting in a swimsuit at a party. So my husband is going to have to do it. We're also in the middle of moving, so if he complains, sorry all my swimsuits are packed Cool

    Have a great weekend gals!

  • melody46
    melody46 Member Posts: 279
    edited June 2013

    SLV58 thats awful noone spoke to you or your family! I'll be praying you have a peaceful healing weekend

  • tangles
    tangles Member Posts: 508
    edited June 2013

    SLV I would think a surgeon would have come in the room and talked to your family! Never heard of them not. I am not sure they could give you any answers of how many lymph nodes until pathology looks at it. I am having surgery in 17 days, I am sure the surgeon will talk to my hubby afterwards but I do not expect to have answers on how many lymph nodes or if they did or did not test positive. I will be playing the waiting game myself and it is stressful!!

    DiZzymom cant believe the tears are still flowing! Gezz I was just complaining to the hubby this am how sick and tired I am of that. Will be SO glad to not have to carry a Kleenex with me at all times!!!

  • Gina925
    Gina925 Member Posts: 35
    edited June 2013

    I'm going to start taking biotin to promote hair growth. Anybody try this? I'll try anything..... I just want my hair back & want to stop wearing a wig. Sick of caps too!

    I will have to ask the onco rad dr if its ok to take during/with my rads. I start in July.

    My legs hurt so much after that final chemo. The last 2 have been really rough on the bones/muscles.

  • slv58
    slv58 Member Posts: 1,216
    edited June 2013

    I went to get biotin also, but the person at the healthfood store I went to said that bamboo silica was better. Not sure if I can take this prior to rads, so I may wait till I'm done ,just in case this is considered an anti oxidant.

  • DiZZyMom
    DiZZyMom Member Posts: 245
    edited June 2013

    I took biotin all through chemo and still am. My RO is aware and has not told me not to. I've heard it doesn't do any good for the hair during chemo, but I actually was taking it then to try to protect my nails (which did not happen, my nails are destroyed!). My MO was fine with me taking it during chemo so long as I didn't take it day of and for 48 hours after TX. I'm 3 weeks PFC and I don't really notice any hair growth yet, but I would be pretty surprised if I did at this point.

  • melody46
    melody46 Member Posts: 279
    edited June 2013

    Both my MO and RO were ok with me taking biotin because its not an anti oxidant. I started taking it about 2 weeks before my last chemo and I have the start of a 5:00 shadow (little sprouts) at 6 1/2 weeks post treatment.  I've also been using the 3 pack Nioxin treatment system for about the same amount of time, although I started using the shampoo as soon as the hair fell out. My legs are starting to feel better but I am still having issues with breathing and a little cough in the evenings.

  • LakeGirl2
    LakeGirl2 Member Posts: 68
    edited June 2013

    Melody- do you think your cough is related to chemo or rads? I developed a dry cough after my 4th chemo. Both nurse and mo said its not a chemo side effect but might be from reflux or allergies. I don't think so because I have been on prilosec and claritan since my 2nd treatment.

  • lalady1
    lalady1 Member Posts: 618
    edited June 2013

    I am having my last of 6 rounds chemo tomorrow - ready to ring the bell at UCLA! Tangles - like you I'm having my reconstruction before rads - on July 15th. But the last fill really hurts and really want to go down a size on the other side now. Have to sleep on my back for relief. I envy you all going to the store, I can barely walk in an buy one bag and drag it home in my car, then rest before it gets inside. No energy for much and thigh muscles burn when I bend down to feed the cat or empty trash.

    But the end is in sight!

  • melody46
    melody46 Member Posts: 279
    edited June 2013

    Lakegirl I think its from chemo because my lungs bothered me during treatment but who knows.  I'm going to talk to my MO about it when I see him Thursday.

  • LakeGirl2
    LakeGirl2 Member Posts: 68
    edited June 2013

    Melody, if you could share what you hear from your mo here or on a pm, I would appreciate. Having some breathing issues with the cough. Difficult to describe but sometimes feels like its hard to get a clear, deep breath.

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