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  • AnnBR
    AnnBR Member Posts: 853
    edited June 2013

    Jakig, I had 2 MX by two different surgeons and the first surgeon told me I could use ice packs for any post op swelling. My second surgeon said not to use either cold or heat on the area. Sorry, I guess I am not much help. Congratulations on clear nodes!



    Ann

  • GoWithTheFlow
    GoWithTheFlow Member Posts: 727
    edited June 2013

    yea Ann!!!  Welcome to the other side.  So glad there were no nodes involved!  My dye hurt like a SOB but like someone else said, only for a few seconds.  I think I yelled louder for that than I did the drains coming out.  So glad you didn't have to experience the burning.  Now rest up and feel better!

  • ckmoss
    ckmoss Member Posts: 613
    edited June 2013

    Run-That was Chantel.  She sent me pics of her pillow through yahoo email. The great thing that she did was  include several pics of how to position..that I got up out of bed and went back and refered to...And yes was wonderful she told me about!  Thanks for tips about gell polish, although the whole slammed in a cabinet door thing Cry..My whole attitude of embracing chemo and getting this out...slipping just a bit.

    Did ya'll have the test that tells would you have to have chemo as precaution? I'm somewhat leery of that..kinda feel like I don't want to chance..or is it so accurate that its not a chance?

  • ckmoss
    ckmoss Member Posts: 613
    edited June 2013

    Sorry submitted before I meant to:

    Ann-Good morning!  How was your night?

  • GoWithTheFlow
    GoWithTheFlow Member Posts: 727
    edited June 2013

    Since mine was triple negative, big, and aggressive (in the 3 weeks of testing leading up to chemo, I went from 3 vicodin a day to 8 vicodin a day), chemo wasn't optional.  I will say that the chemo killed all the cancer because nothing was found in the pathology after my mastectomy.  

    I think the worst part of chemo is the length of it, and the feeling yukky, not feeling yukky.  My recommendation is to do something fun on the days you are up for it.  It will get you through the days that you aren't.  On my down days, I usually shut my cell phone ringer off (didn't feel like talking to anyone) and sat and watched hours of "say yes to the dress", "four weddings", "cake boss", and "dance moms".  I've now decided I want to renew wedding vows with my husband when we get this behind us.

    You can do this ckmoss!

  • Chinneymae
    Chinneymae Member Posts: 339
    edited June 2013

    Ckmoss- I had the test and will be getting my results on the 13th. It's called oncotype dx. I'm still not sure if I want to do Chemo as precaution or not. I'm really on the fence about it. I guess I'll see what the oncologist has to say.

  • ckmoss
    ckmoss Member Posts: 613
    edited June 2013

    I'm going to ask ifhe did that test or not..not sure if thats something I would have had to ask for or he just did..I know they have taken loads of blood.

    I think my fight with him is going to be radiation. Unless, he can give me better exp then just extra precaution.  Having this extra empty skin (and remember I was D cup) has been..Lord, I don't know the word..horrendous to look at..feels funny cause its like a wave going all the way around incision..and has a bit of feeling in it..I think..

  • GoWithTheFlow
    GoWithTheFlow Member Posts: 727
    edited June 2013

    wow, that visual gives a whole new meaning to the phrase "doing the wave".  Laughing  I haven't talked to my oncologist, she wasn't available when I stopped in yesterday, but the surgeon said he thought i should do radiation.  As much as I don't want to, these doctors have gotten me this far, and I will do what they suggest.

    SO, if you need radiation, I will be there for you a few steps ahead.

  • sciencegal
    sciencegal Member Posts: 1,120
    edited June 2013

    ckmoss I iced fingernails and toenails with bags of frozen peas and had no effects on the nails, and no finger neuropathy. We were doing the coldcaps so had dry ice with us, but you could take a small cooler along perhaps?



    The numbness gets better, at least for me - it is worst right after mastectomy, and that is probably a good thing! About two months later, I have some numb areas still but can feel a lot more of my skin than I did initially.

  • ckmoss
    ckmoss Member Posts: 613
    edited June 2013

    Gowith--LMAO..that was so funny!  My surgeon said he didn't see why I needed radiaton and so did the nurse manager at PS..although, her word would be last I go on.  But like you said oncologist is head honcho on this.

    Science gal-Thanks for idea about the frozen peas..I just read a bit about cold caps..asked nurse mgr at oncologist ..she had no clue what cold caps were..Upstate SC is not on the cutting edge of ANYTHING I can tell you..and I do live in a city..But I don't love my hair 1500 or however much worth..looking at your avatar I can understand why you would..Great hair.  Mines thinned since I turned 40, so looking forward to the thicker hair I'm suppose to get back by sacrificing hair to the Chemo gods. So do you keep your fingers covered with peas the whole time doing chemo infusion? 

  • sweetpickle
    sweetpickle Member Posts: 749
    edited June 2013

    Ckmoss- I used the Sally Hansen hard as nails clear polish and my nails stayed on. Im almost five weeks post chemo and almost all of the neuropathy has gone. I agree with what Gowiththeflow said, on your down days rest and on your up days do what you feel up to doing. I too spent hours and hours on Bravo tv and TLC shows. I want to renew my vows and have a crazy cake while trying to win 10,000 for a home remodel.......lol



    Anothe thing I just thougt of, while on the taxotere (I couldnt do taxol) was that I chewed ice during my infusion because I had a horrible time with mouth sors and thrush. The ice seemed to help some with that.

  • sciencegal
    sciencegal Member Posts: 1,120
    edited June 2013

    Thanks CK, I mainly did it because we have a lot of funding and clients that could be lost if people realized I was sick and would't be working 20 hour days seven days a week like I used to, in order to meet their insane deadlines. But I am really glad I did the coldcaps. They are expensive and a pain to do, but worth it for me.



    We had six small bags of frozen petite peas with us, I put one on my toes (with thin socks on) and kept my fingertips and nails folded into another, just a few minutes prior to and during the carboplatin and taxotere infusions. Then kept them on about ten minutes afterward, during the herceptin. We changed the bags out when they didnt feel super cold.



    It just constricts blood vessels and reduces the overall amount of chemo going to those regions. My doctor had never heard of finger or toe mets so said it was fine.



    I think this really helped me avoid nail issues and neuropathy of the fingers. I had some really frightening neuropathy in the fingers on my right hand after the first round of chemo, when I didnt do the icing, but then it never came back after the next five rounds, when I did the bags of peas. So I was kind of my own control!

  • ckmoss
    ckmoss Member Posts: 613
    edited June 2013

    Thanks for the tips!  Recouping from lumpectomy and then into this..I understand the hours of tv..I, myself, have watched no less than 31 episodes..(had on dvr) of House..season from 2008..I just started 2011. Everyone asked how I can watch that now..his patients have far worse..and his attitude suits my mood! lol.

    My dentist said she was going to prescr me a flouride rinse and flouride presc toothpaste while doing chemo..will this help with sores and ..yuck..thrush?

  • ckmoss
    ckmoss Member Posts: 613
    edited June 2013

    sciencegal-Peas it is! So basically just bury toes and nails in frzn bags wrapped around and then do the hard nail stuff too.  I'm not getting HER2 so guess I would just stop when over.  Its good to see you are from CA..funny, I was just thinking that from what I can see of who shows...most of us are from south to north and a tad over..Did your reconstruction go well?

    I need to go and read more on chemo board I guess.  Was in there long enough to read about nails and hightailed my butt out of there! lol..Scary board...came back to our nice safe room here..where most painful thing is tight arms and drains

  • sweetpickle
    sweetpickle Member Posts: 749
    edited June 2013

    Keeping up good oral hygiene will help but for me wasnt enough. Im the daugter of a dentist and granddaugter of an oral surgeon so Ive always taken good care of my teeth. If you run into any problems ask for the magic mouthwash, yes thats its ral name, which will numb your mouth and help you be able to get soft foods down.

  • AnnBR
    AnnBR Member Posts: 853
    edited June 2013

    I slept like a log last night and it felt so good. I even woke up on my left side, which I haven't been able to do yet. I think I was exhausted after piddling the day away with my husband. He took me out for breakfast and we did a bit of shopping in the afternoon. We have major flooding in our area so we took a drive last night to see which roads are still closed. I am tired today so I am being very lazy. I get my drains out next Tuesday and it is a 3.5 hour drive so I booked a room at a nice hotel in the area for the evening. It's going to be all about me that day.



    Ann

  • GoWithTheFlow
    GoWithTheFlow Member Posts: 727
    edited June 2013

    Ann, remember when at that hotel that if you've had chemo in the last 48 hours he has to wear a condom.  LMAO.  I'm still cracking up about that a week later.

  • sweetpickle
    sweetpickle Member Posts: 749
    edited June 2013

    Ann- where in Iowa are you? I grew up just outside Davenport. Stay safe and dry!

  • ckmoss
    ckmoss Member Posts: 613
    edited June 2013

    Lol--thats right! You and Sweet pickle have done the chemo..so did ya'll have urge to have wild sex 48 hrs after chemo???

  • sciencegal
    sciencegal Member Posts: 1,120
    edited June 2013

    Ann so glad you got a good nights sleep!



    The "magic mouthwash" is great, I got some mouth sores from chemo and it really helped. It had lidocaine.



    CK, chemo is just another step in this roller coaster ride. I am more woried about starting radiation in two weeks than I was about the chemo!

    For me, there were meds to help with all the side effects and I took them religiously, keeping track of what times I had taken them each day on a big calendar. I only felt nausea once, before I started that process. Try not to be too scared. I wish you luck with minimal side effects.

  • AnnBR
    AnnBR Member Posts: 853
    edited June 2013

    You gals are so funny!



    I did not have to have chemo due to the size and stage of my tumor. My Oncotype Dx score was low enough so chemo was not recommended. I didn't argue with that decision.



    I live in Marshalltown which is smack dab in the middle of the state. The Iowa River runs north of M'town and is causing a lot of problems. I feel for the farmers too, who have to replant a lot of their crops.



    Ann

  • sweetpickle
    sweetpickle Member Posts: 749
    edited June 2013

    Ckmoss- umm yeah, that would be a big fat no! lol



    I agree that taking the meds to manage the side effects helps a lot.

  • ckmoss
    ckmoss Member Posts: 613
    edited June 2013

    If my husband even suggested there may be one less husband in the world..lol

    This magic mouthwash...where might one find this?

    Also, how are ya'lls drains?  Are they dwindling in what they are putting out?

  • Chinneymae
    Chinneymae Member Posts: 339
    edited June 2013

    ckmoss- I think the oncotype dx is done with the breast tissue that was already taken during surgery. It is a type of genetic test like the BRACA tests just different. It is also a $4000 test, which I think is insane.



    I hope my score is low so I won't have to have chemo. I'm like Ann. My tumor was really small and had not gotten to the nodes yet.



    I am almost 4 weeks post op and I can sleep on my sides pretty well now. I have a few twinges but for the most part I'm feeling pretty good.

  • sweetpickle
    sweetpickle Member Posts: 749
    edited June 2013

    My drains have only been 5-10cc for th past four days. Nurse was shockrd when I told her that but they just arent putting out a lot.

  • sweetpickle
    sweetpickle Member Posts: 749
    edited June 2013

    Oh, just ask your Onc. for a prescription and they will call it in for you.

  • GoWithTheFlow
    GoWithTheFlow Member Posts: 727
    edited June 2013

    Yea, I don't recall ANYTIME since this nightmare began that I was looking to have sex.  Just am not feeling it.

  • AnnBR
    AnnBR Member Posts: 853
    edited June 2013

    Two of my drains have been right at 25 ccs for several days and the other one is 40. I'm counting on all of them being removed next week - 13 days out. I pray I can get to 30 by then. It would be disappointing to travel that far and then only have two removed.

  • ckmoss
    ckmoss Member Posts: 613
    edited June 2013

    Ann-my one that was putting out the most, did very little a couple days before drain remvl day then decided to go back to about 35 the day before..He said "Well its been 14 days and I think its about done..so he took both and all has been ok..I took bandages off 2 days later..took about that long for soreness to go away. So fingers crossed for you!!!

    Sweetpickle-well you def will be getting out..yeaaaa!

    GoWith-I'm there with you!  Did it hurt when you got your drains out?  Did you take pain pill?  They TOLD me to..which did nothing for my anxiety level..

  • GoWithTheFlow
    GoWithTheFlow Member Posts: 727
    edited June 2013

    I took one pain pill on the way to the appointment.   The first side hurt more than the 2nd side.  It wasn't good, but wasn't as bad as the needle the day before surgery (for the node mapping).  Once it was out, I felt better.  Even though it still hurts, it's nothing like it was before the drains came out.

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