Study shows vegans have less cancer?

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  • Lily55
    Lily55 Member Posts: 3,534
    edited May 2013

    I have been veggie for 25 years!! But evidence for plant based diet is there post diagnosis

  • MMSS
    MMSS Member Posts: 103
    edited May 2013

    My husband and I have been a part of the study cited in this article for over 20 years. It is considered to be well designed and administered so has gotten a lot of NIH funding over it's history and was just renewed for quite a bit more. The study subjects are members of the Seventh-day Adventist church from all parts of north america. About half of all Adventists are vegetarian and even those who are not tend to eat less meat overall than the general population and also to eat more lean meats. They do tend to eat quite a bit of soy and some of manufacturers of soy meat substitutes have been associated with the church at some point in their history. What surprised me the most was the difference between the plain vegetarians and the vegans. I would guess that some of that comes from the fact that many of the vegetarians because they do not eat meat have over compensated in the area of dairy and it possible to be vegetarian and still eat a high fat unhealthy diet by eating too much dairy especially cheese. Believe me I have done it. Since being diagnosed I have moved much more toward being vegan and cutting dairy and sugar. To my great surprise I have discovered that it is quite hard to gain weight on a vegan diet. I can eat pretty much whatever I want to if I stay away from those items. A very nice side effect for a change.

  • indenial
    indenial Member Posts: 504
    edited May 2013

    Interesting study. I am soooo conflicted about this!! I am 30 years old. I went vegetarian ate age 12 and vegan at age 22. Within a year of going vegan my health went drastically downhill (chronic fatigue & lots of pain, increased allergies, all sorts of weirdness) but I stuck to the vegan diet for 7 years straight. Last year I started eating meat & dairy again to try to revive my health. Six months later is when I first discovered my breast tumor. Sometimes I wonder if the tumor never would have formed if I had stayed on that vegan diet. Other times I think, it probably took way more than 6 months for my 2cm grade 2 tumor to form, so it was probably already there when I started eating meat again. I also have to believe that spending more than half my life veg and still eating a primarily plant-based diet has to have some protective factors. But then again, my 3.5 years of breastfeeding and my healthy lifestyle and all the other things I've done still didn't stop me from getting BC so maybe I was destined to get it no matter what. Bottom line is I feel better eating meat & dairy for now so I'm going to stick to it while it works. 

    OH! And about vegan/weight... in my last couple years of being vegan I started gaining a lot of weight. I was still eating healthy so I'm not sure what happened, but it seems to be that I could no longer digest grains & legumes very well. When I started eating meat, I stopped eating most grains & beans and lost 25lbs within a few months. Now whenever I eat more than a small amount of those foods I bloat up very quickly & have digestive issues. Weird.

  • lightandwind
    lightandwind Member Posts: 754
    edited May 2013

    Indenial, I had digestive issues similar to yours and I started taking digestive enzymes and probiotics everyday and I feel less bloated and digestion is much better even though I eat beans, grains and cruciferious veggies daily. I had been vegan and/or vegetarian since I was 32 except for the 5 years prior to being diagnosed at age 43, during which time I ate meat. I had more digestive issues when I started eating meat. I could feel my health going downhill and my body was overridden and exhausted from all the estrogen. I gained weight but kept eating meat because it seemed it was the only thing that gave me energy at the time. I'm 44 now and have been vegan w/ fish since diagnosis. I try to have 8 fruits and/or veggies daily. I put psyillium husks in my smoothies for extra fiber. I feel better than I did, more like prior to the 5 years before diagnosis AND I've lost a lot of weight, and am now at a normal weight, and that feels better too.

  • mary625
    mary625 Member Posts: 1,056
    edited May 2013

    I was vegetarian for about 6 years prior to diagnosis. Given that the surgeon estimated that my tumor had been growing for 7 years, I think it is likely that there's some correlation ... or not. I ate a lot of soy meat substitutes with the extremely concentrated soy. Also my diet was naturally high in carbs, and I did not avoid grains and the like. I do think that diet is probably individualized, and for me, carbs are a disaster. I knew it in my head, but I liked the vegetarian diet better never having liked meat much and my teenage son wanted me to do it with him. I have always had extreme episodes of low blood sugar, which can be a precursor for high blood sugar and metabolic syndrome later in life. I did officially have metabolic syndrome, but my primary symptom was high blood pressure which was all they treated. After my treatment, I went on Metformin in lieu of the study since my internist said it was time to treat the metabolic syndrome. Now I'm also taking a small dose of a statin. I am eating more of a high protein, low carb diet. I am feeling better, maintaining the weight loss I had during treatment, and lowering my blood pressure medication. Again, I think it is personal and there are some people with body types that handle carbs better than others. I do not eat bread or wheat at all, having learned after treatment that I am strongly genetically predisposed to celiac disease. It's not easy, but it has to be done.

  • hopefour
    hopefour Member Posts: 459
    edited May 2013

    Thank you for posting this article...found it encouraging!! I have chosen to go vegan after dx and find my body has responded very well.

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