DIEP 2013
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It is time that I introduce myself to this group of wonderful women. My name is Robin, I live in Los Angeles and I have complicated breasts.
At 21 I had a breast reduction, at 39 I was first diagnosed with BC stage 3 triple negative (and went through all the chemo, radiation and all that while being a single divorced mom to a then 10yr old son). In March of this year at age 48 I was diagnosed with bc again- this time stage 2 also triple negative. This was one week after finalizing an adoption of a little girl. Come to find out I'm BRCA positive and it appears that they will be doing a bi-lateral mastectomy, and the DIEP mid June. Having been through the breast reduction some 26 years ago, I'm really not too worried about my new belly-boobs. I remember the recovery and the pains and the drains. (they took me down from an E to a C then, and I'm a DD again now- I'd be happy to be a B at this point) I find that I'm most concerned about how my tummy will feel after and the amount of time to even go into the office for an hour or so. I'll take it as it goes and am trying to prepare my boss and my kids for the surgery and my recovery in the meantime.
I want to add that I'm so grateful for this group of gals to have this place to share information and advice. I spent a good deal of time reading replies last night and will have lots of questions and concerns as that date grows closer. I just want to thank you all that have already been through this for sharing your experience with those of us still on the journey!
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Oh, hey...just thought of something I didn't take to the hospital that I wished I'd had. It's one of those big, plastic, double-walled, capped drink containers that you can fill with ice water and it will stay cold for hours. With a straw, it's much easier to drink from, lying down, than a regular cup or glass.
Right after the surgery, I went through cold water like crazy. It tasted so good.
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Welcome, Robin! I hope you get all your questions answered and feel confident as your surgery date grows closer! Katy
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sbelizabeth - so right you are. My hospital actually gave me one that holds 32 oz. Loved it. DH got me some lemon and stevia - I was sooooo happy.
RobinY - welcome aboard. I love your description of your complicated breasts. You certainly are not alone. We each have our problems and challenges. As to timeframes - I believe most of us will say that you will probably be able to go to work part time at about 4 weeks. Some of us get our breast drains out by the time we leave the hospital and for others it can be 2 weeks. Hip drains stay in longer, generally. You won't be able to drive until you are off narcotic pain relievers. Will your son (who must be about 20?) be able to take care of your new little girl? That will most likely be your biggest challenge. i love your attitude and think you will be so happy after DIEP. I know I am delighted with mine!
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Welcome Robin!
Sbelizabeth, the hospital gave me a huge cup with a bendable straw and they kept it with fresh ice at all times. I also wanted ice water like crazy, even though I'm more of a soda drinker. -
Welcome Robin... where are you going for surgery?
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i went to gym twice yesterday! 30 of cardio and yoga class. but left work early due tomysinus pressure. ENT on friday. sure hope he can fix me.
welcome robin
mybreasts are starting to look like breasts. a few weeks ago i posted i didnt lime them. the stitches are almost gone. definately perky. red spots are almost healed -
Welcome Robin! You have come to the right place. Be prepared to learn a lot.
I am having my scar revised and lowered next week. I'm not looking forward to recovery, but know how great this will all turn out in the end. I'm retired and don't have the stress of returning to my job. I don't know how some of you do this. I am in awe! WARRIORS!! -
Hi, all! Just wanted to send more good wishes to our two comrades-in-DIEP in surgery today, hoping they feel our support and are doing well in recovery tonight. And welcome to Robin and other gals who've come aboard recently - glad you found this wonderful group!
I'm 10 weeks out now and feeling really good. Back to most normal things and loving the new girls. My waist is back too, hooray! Continuing to do PT for back and hip strength and flexibility, but no pain. Just tightness in my ab incision area still when I get up from sitting after a time. And I still need my Flexees boy shorts too; some swelling still happens otherwise.
Sleep is still not great but I don't think I can blame it on the surg anymore. No idea what's behind all the frequent waking. I'm not particularly stressed at work or home or anything, it's very odd.
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Hello DIEP warriors.......scanning the posts and no word from our two who just crossed over ...... Wishing them both smooth recoveries, and cute, perky girls!
Saw my PS today....was apprehensive about being scheduled for stage 2 in the next few weeks.......dodged that bullet, as he wants to wait a few more months (yay!) for the abdominal swelling I have had since I had my blown-open incision re sutured. Doc feels that all the trauma in that initial 5 week period from two (basically) abdominal incisions/surgeries has caused more swelling than "normal".....whatever "normal" is. I am perfectly okay with that......now I can a plan a hiking week in Glacier National Park.......that place is Shangri-La to me.
Welcome, Robin.......the DIEP board has some of the nicest people who like to hang out and post here! Hope all goes well for you as you figure out what you are dealing with.
Well......it is WAY past my bedtime, so I'll say Buenos Noches........and TOWANDA!!!!
Namaste and God bless - Jackie -
I made it with flying colors, so happy to be on this side, only chemo left once I heal. Surgery went well, 7 1/2 hours. Did so well that I was able to skip ICU and went straight to my room. I'm very sore and my throat is killing me from the tube. I hope CRS is doing well! My DH slept over but just left to help his Mother get our Son ready for school, he'll be back in a while, and my Mom wants to sleep here tonight. My DH didn't want to see any incisions yet, which surprised me, but in due time when he's ready. Eventually he'll need to help clean them.
That's it for now I'm going to rest, I have a headache from all the medicine.
Thank you everyone for your thoughts and prayers, every one of them helped!
Love, Lauren -
Oh and my nodes were all clean!!!! Yeah!!!!
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Yay Lauren!!! So good to hear from you.
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Lauren -
Yay for flying through surgery, and fantastic news about the nodes! Congratulations! Rest well.
Janet
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Congrats Lauren! Let the healing begin.
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Lmo45, you sound fantastic, and perfectly coherent too! So happy for you! No positive nodes is so wonderful. You rest and sleep, and heal now. Thanks for posting. Hope to hear from CRS too.
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RobinY - Had to post because you have such a great first name!
And because I am triple negative, too. I just went through the surgery last Monday. I am 43. I live near Toronto, am married, and have three kids (twin girls aged 6 and an older boy who will be 9 this month). I was diagnosed last October 2. Had a lumpectomy on October 24. Found out in the final pathology that it was triple negative. I went through the gene testing to learn that I am gene negative. My tumour went from 1.9cm to 3cm in surgery because it was surrounded by DCIS. They got clean margins and I was node negative - 1 isolated tumor cell found in one node. I was stage 2, N0, M0 (all my scans were clear).
My tumor also had an LCIS tumor marker which indicated a propensity for future cancer in the other breast. I had 8 dose dense rounds of chemo and finished up March 25. Then I had to choose between radiation (they were going to hit my lung) and a mastectomy. I decided I wanted a bilateral with reconstruction and ended up having DIEP surgery like I said last Monday.
I've been home from hospital one week today and I have to tell you that I am shocked at how painless this really is. The thing that hurts most was my abdomen and it was really just with movement. And I figured I'd have to be crazy to think it wouldn't hurt when I moved after everything I just went through. I am taking minimal meds (just regular Tylenols) and have been since Day 2 in hospital. Getting in and out of bed is now thought provoking - you need a plan but I noticed just yesterday it was much easier.
Like I said, I have three young kids. They are old hands at this stuff after being flung into it last October. We did a lot of just being honest (although I am one of those people who never told my kids Mommy has cancer despite the insistance of the counselor at the cancer centre that I should - I know my kids and they were just too young to understand what that meant and my eldest would then let his imgination fly to all sorts of bad places) - there was going to be surgery, mom wouldn't be able to do a lot of the usual stuff at first and needed to rest, and then we just let them help. We also committed to making sure their routine wasn't disrupted that much and that part has taken a lot of coordination. Friends to pick them up from school and take them. I have friends who are making meals, helping clean (we got someone to clean, too), and taking my kids when we all need a break. Once we realized that keeping the routine normal was making life easier for the kids - it got easier for us.
So a week and a few days out, I am tired (but remember I am also just 5 weeks out from chemo) but cooking dinners, packing some lunches, and folding laundry. I rest a lot and am trying to take it easy. I still have one drain in me (oh how my future engineers and doctors love talking about mom's tubes!). I've been shopping and yes, yesterday I even drove (OK just two minutes out of our neighborhood and around the corner to our new Target).
My advice is to let people help you out, keep a normal routine as much as you can, and know it's not as bad as you expect it to be.
This board is an amazing resource. Tons of big advice and even more pieces of little advice that make it all easier.
Cheers!
Robin (see I told you that you had a great name)

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hhcats , good for you!!! You are doing really well, as I expected you would. I am 8 weeks out of surgery and doing well and I agree with you about keeping up regular activities as much as possible. My franken boobs are quite good , healing well and my tummy has rare odd pains but overall life is back to normal.
Someone above asked about the tummy hardness, I am curious too. Its so hard still. I am flatter with right side doing the dog ear thing. I certainly haven't lost weight and still can't fit some pants. PS won't let me exercise yet and I won't get back to work for another couple of weeks as I am only allowed to carry 10lbs total yet.
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Movie, you and I are in the same age braket and we are 10 days apart with DIEP stage I. Hearing that you are a couple of months away from stage II, makes me feel hopeful that I may be able to have a September date.
TOWANDA, all DIEPers!
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Ladies ! I've missed my DIEP sisters
been out and about these last few days. Unfortunately my grandfather was not doing well so I was visiting with him and my grandmother quite a bit. He is doing better thankfully 
Lauren so happy to hear you are doing so great ! Way to go you
and congratulations on your big news.
RobinY welcome to the group ! these ladies are a tremendous support.
Today I walked a half mile trail around the cranberry bogs it was beautiful ! I also wore a sundress!!! and used a pair of spanx I had prior to surgery instead of my binder it was great but I wouldn't recommend wearing it if the weather is too hot !
I registered a team for the relay for life event in my town also. This will be my first year so we will see how it goes I'm hoping to raise a bunch of $ for the cause and be able to walk a little or whatever my body is ready for
my team has my back. Our team name is Super Troopers ! The R in Troopers will be a BC ribbon
hopefully I can find a company to make the shirts for a reasonable price. So excited 
Have a great day ladies ! thinking of you crs hope your doing well. -
Wow....we've been busy.....I know I'll miss some recent comments, sorry.
Robin....hello, hope we can be of help. I know how much I have benefitted from these incredible ladies, I'm sure you'll find the same.
re: calf tightness...I had it somewhat too. I'm sure it's due to having knees flexed so long, with pillows, bed positions, etc. I found mine went away quite quickly when I stopped having to have something behind my knees all the time. Same with hip tightness.
Lmo....welcome to the other side!!!!!! Gosh, you sound awesome!!!! rest and heal, the hard stuff is behind you.
Fredntan....so happy to hear you are in a "better place" re: feelings about the new girls. I'm sure, if they could sort out your sinus pain, everything will seem better!!!!!!
Back spasms almost settled down, much better today. As they were upper back and shoulder spasms, I have no doubt it is more related to my pre-surgery shoulder/implant issues than to the diep. But, all body parts ARE connected so there likely is some link.
Sbelizabeth....I tried going without my "self-prescribed" support garment and was much more uncomfortable than with it. Maybe you could get one, and see if it helps you??? I don't wear it while sleeping, but it am very glad I got some. Mine are not as ìndustrial strength as post surgery binders or probably the Marena`s , but they work for me.
Kuka, sorry to hear about the blisters, hope they resolve with no issues.
HHcats.....green is never a good colour when describing body secretion.....keep on top of it!!!!
Faith....your walk sounds lovely, so glad you were able to do it and enjoy it.
Gotta end here, time for my walk outside!!!!!
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Lauren, so happy your surgery went well. Really everything that's coming next is nothing compared with the anxiety of waiting for surgery. I never had real pain, just discomfort. Of course I baby my new girls and I'm very careful with my tummy so that my incision doesn't open. I get tired easly but can do a lot by myself as long as I rest in between.
Hhcats, I'm sure your kids have surprised you as much as mine had me. Kids are so smart and strong!! I say mine have grown so much in this past week.
I'm thinking today or tomorrow I'm going to go to Walmart and use one of those electric chairs they have. I just need to get out of the house for a bit and my mom wants to go shopping to buy gifts for the grandkids before she returns to Spain next week.
I forgot to mention yesterday that my PS gave me permission to sleep on my side. And I slept so good last night. I woke up a little depressed though. Some of the glue on my Tummy's scar has come off and I can really see the scar now. It freaked me out a little bit and teared up thinking if I will ever look normal, or close to it. Then I have to remind myself that I'm only 9 days out.
I knows it yesterday that in the morning I can walk pretty straight, but as the day goes by my tummy gets harder and more swollen and makes me walk more hunched over which makes my lower back hurt really bad. My PS told me to put Aquaphore on the incision on top of the tape so that it wouldn't be so tight. It helps!!
Crs hope you're feeling good and have a painless recovery!! -
Ooooh hey I forgot to mention that I got a little bounce back in the girls
yup I was going down the stairs and noticed that they moved a bit and also I felt it so... 
Sbelizabeth I echo your comment on having the tumbler cup w/straw ! Came in handy for sure.
Nihahi sounds like your doing well .
Kuka hang in there things change so quickly in terms of the appearance and feel of the abdomen & new girls /scars. It's normal to have those feelings but rest assured if you had a weepy moment you'll have better ones to come. You be careful now on that scooter don't run anyone down
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Bounceback
just gotta say I think you ladies are the greatest!
Just finished the same walk I did yesterday. Then, made the whole loop without stopping, today, had to park myself on a bench 4 times. Oh well, at least I was outside in the fresh air! -
Ok ladies, sorry for all the questions. I'm laying in bed in tears because I just took a shower and put on a white tshirt. I never wore white before because I was a DD and I don't like to draw attention to myself, specially about having big boobs. I requested to be a C after DIEP, but when I looked at myself with that white shirt on it looks like I'm flat. Maybe an A! Does this change after you stop wearing the compression bras and everything heals and settles? I know I'm not just a pair of boobs, but I want to have something up there. I really didn't think I was going to feel this way. I think today is the hardest day since my surgery emotionally. Sorry, just trying to vent, don't want to bring anyone down.
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MartyJ- they re-did your abdominal incision? Mine is a pretty big red line with lumpiness in the middle of it where it healed from the inside out, they can correct that?
I just looked at pictures I took of myself... My right breast is a hamburger bun, left is okay. I guess I am getting insecure about my new doctor, I'll have to get another read on him when I go for my pre-op 5/10.
Sbelizeth - I think the NOLA girls have the best advice re: compression. I have to wear a sports bra b/c of the swelling, which is abating, but I can't seem to put that girdle on again, and my PS never required it until I complained of pain. Stretching my arms up twinges things, but I don't want to go in for PT until after clearance from the 2nd SX post-op.
Kuka21 - your kids sound so cute, I loved that age!
Nihahi - sorry about the back! Finally at three months plus out I can get massages (which insurance pays for, lucky me) and they really help! Unfortunately, I have trouble sleeping on my right side due to nerve damage from a SNB, so it's either my left side or my back. My left side has pain due to radiating pain from where they took part of the rib. It bothers me that it still hurts. Pain doc said 4-6 months. Options are diminishing sleep-wise for me!
Hugs to all,
Kate
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Kuka, I'm still waiting for surgery, and can't answer your question. Just want to give you a BIG HUG!
((((((KUKA))))))
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Kuka... I am sorry... After my stage I I was quite large and then smaller after swelling subsided and then stage II for shaping. I had been a C/D prior to surgery but needed to buy DD post stage I... Now I am a C. So unfortunately, you are probably larger now then you will end up. Day 9 is still really early in the healing process. Do know though that there are options for supplementing, like another flap (like GAP) to stack on top of the one you have now. So if in the end you are not happy do consider the other options.
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Kate - yes, my doc fixed my ab incision. During the 5 months between DIEP and Stage 2, it became lumpy and bumpy and ropey - really yucky. Mostly in the middle. Dr. M lowered the incision when she fixed the dog ears. While she was in there she gave me a plication (tightened the abdominal muscle fascia). My tummy is flat, flat, flat. I think the lumps are gone as well, but . . . she used a new closing technique to try to ensure a better closure. Although there are internal sutures, the exterior is glued together. On top of that there is a reinforced tape to help support the incision. I will be 3 weeks out tomorrow and it is all still in place. I am getting a bit anxious of that, but will talk with her to see what is up.
Kuka - give it time on the sizing. You will swell and change over the next few days and months. Before my MX, I was a 32 DD - little girl with really big boobs. I, too, dressed to draw attention away. When I had my first recon with implants, I was about a C. I was absolutely amazed how "flat" I looked. I really didn't look flat (per photos), but my brain was so used to the big bazooms that I had a hard time adjusting. I have to say, I did look better in clothes after.
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Kuka,
Would fat grafting be an option to increase your size? With or without using BRAVA method?
Was PS aware of what size you wanted to be or given an explanation?
Hope PS is understanding of your wishes. Take care!
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