April 2013 Chemo Group

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  • heather214
    heather214 Member Posts: 142
    edited April 2013

    WELCOME Kimham! Kind of sick, but we are all in this together, like it or not =)

                                                                  Heather

  • Speedy4
    Speedy4 Member Posts: 136
    edited April 2013

    Trying to catch up here as I've been out of commission for a few days. Sorta felt a fever coming on Friday and by Saturday I had chills and my temp was 102. Dr on call sent me to the ER. My WBC was very low and my body could not fight off whatever had gotten to me. They pumped me with antibiotics and finally I'm feeling better. Sending me home today! I will definitely be getting the Neulasta shot after my next treatment!



    I have the same feelings about losing my hair. I purchased a good wig and a hat that has hair attached to it so I guess I'm prepared but definitely not mentally prepared for it to happen. I can handle all the surgeries and chemo SEs but its the hair loss that's going to make me really fell like a cancer patient. Cancer SUCKS!



    We are all on the same journey and I am grateful for the thoughts, feelings, and experiences that are shared here.

  • Deb3kids
    Deb3kids Member Posts: 23
    edited April 2013

    Once the IV meds wore off I took a few of the prescription pills on and off for just a few days. I had two nights where I woke up with awful stomach cramps. Both nights I took the severe nausea pain med that melts on your tongue. (Zophran? Sp?) That's a miracle drug! Within minutes my stomach was fine and I was back to sleep. I was back to normal by day 7. I lost 3 pounds the week of chemo, then gained it back the next week. Both weeks I craved fruit and made lots of fruit

    smoothies. For a few days I

    couldn't taste them, so that was

    sad. I had to put salt on foods that I wouldn't usually salt, like sandwiches and cottage cheese. I drank a lot of water, but found it was harder to get down the second week. I guess that's it for now. My infusion is almost done. I need to come back in tomorrow for the white blood cell shot (neulasta?) then I'm good to go for two weeks.

  • BeHereNow
    BeHereNow Member Posts: 222
    edited April 2013

    Virginia, you may have been told different, but I was told not to eat raw berries and other hard to scrub fruits and veggies. Nasty germs. I'm eating my veggies cooked, to be safe. And only fruits with a skin that I can scrub.



    Sounds like you're hanging in there!



  • hushkat
    hushkat Member Posts: 66
    edited April 2013

    Had my first treatment with Taxotere April 3, and today my scalp is a little "tingly" and has a weird sensation to it.  My hairbrush seemed to have more hair in it today than usual, not sure if it's my imagination or not.  Like the rest of you, I am absolutely dreading the hair loss.  Nothing screams unhealthy like a bald womanCry.  I'm on a three week cycle with my Taxotere so my next treatment isn't until the 24th.  Had a blood checkup a few days ago, everything was ok.  My WBC was like 25 though, compliments of the Neulasta.

    Woke up Friday with a stye on my left eye!  Coincidence?  Chemo related?  Anyone ever heard of that before?

  • pebchristian
    pebchristian Member Posts: 7
    edited April 2013

    Hi hushkat - I had my first treatment on April 5, and this morning I woke up with bloodshot eyes, mostly my left.  Hmmm - maybe a stye in the works?  Let me know how yours goes.

    I have been somewhat side effect free since the first dose - or at least it's all been very manageable.  Have a rash on my neck and hand, but it seems to be dissipating this morning.  I've cut my hair pretty short, but so far no "tingling."  

  • erinm216
    erinm216 Member Posts: 126
    edited April 2013

    Hi Ladies!

    Well, Chemo starts in a week so I am off to find wigs.

    I wish I could just not do this. You know back out and run.

    THinking good thoughts for all of you.

  • kirklandgal
    kirklandgal Member Posts: 63
    edited April 2013

    I am wondering if anyone else is having problems with dryness.  Everything in my head seems dry.  My nose is so dry that there is blood every time I blow my nose.   My eyes feel very dry and are a little blurry - I am trying eye drops to moisten them.  My mouth is dry, especially at night.  And my skin also seems excessively dry.  Anyone else with a similar experience?

    I have also noticed tingling in the scalp with a small area of pain at the very top.  Like everyone else, I suspect I am very close to it starting to fall out.  My first treatment was April 3 so I'm at the same point as hushrat!  I have a wig and a hat so I think I'm ready for it - but there's no knowing how I'll react to it emotionally when the time really gets here!  I'm sure we will all find the needed strength when the time comes!!!

  • Speedy4
    Speedy4 Member Posts: 136
    edited April 2013

    Kirklandgal~I'm experiencing the same with dryness (except for the eyes). I think the chemo sucks a lot out of us including hydration. I felt like I was drinking a lot, but I guess not enough. I've had a headache every day for a week, blood when I blow my nose, and definitely dry mouth and skin. I found the Biotene mouthwash helped with the dry mouth.

    I'm a day behind you and am starting to feel the tingly scalp too :(

  • indenial
    indenial Member Posts: 504
    edited April 2013

    I'm drying out too... my eyes have been a little dry & scratchy the past couple of days and today my skin is getting icky -- flaky & suddenly filled with acne -- and my fingertips feel dry & papery. 

  • BeHereNow
    BeHereNow Member Posts: 222
    edited April 2013

    I'm dry, too! I am drinking 90+ ounces a day, plus coffee ;)



    For feet, I bought pure lanolin. I put it on my heels at night. Really helps. I use the biotene.



    I tried saline for my sinuses, which are really dry. It helps. I'm also experimenting with oil.



  • hushkat
    hushkat Member Posts: 66
    edited April 2013

    Yup, I'm drying out too.  My nose especially. 

  • pebchristian
    pebchristian Member Posts: 7
    edited April 2013

    Feeling the dryness too - especially the last few days.  Nose and upper lip mostly.  

    Started experimenting with how to wear scarves this morning in anticipation of losing my hair.  Quite a challenge for a non-fashionable person as myself!  Here's hoping that I learn how to wear them with style....

  • daffyc
    daffyc Member Posts: 50
    edited April 2013

    Hi all.  So great to have this board, even tho I wish very much for all of us we did NOT have this in common.  We will get through it tho ladies.  We will!!

    I am day 6 of my first AC.  Hit me on day 4/5 and have gradually started feeling more energy today.  If anyone else is doing dose dense, do you think/know if there will be a cumulative effect of treatments?  Meaning, I didn't feel toooo bad with the first one, but will they gradually get worse and worse?

    No hair loss yet here.  I'm guessing this coming weekend or early next week.  Not sure what my plan will be.  I kind of want to see what it will be like coming out, but figure I'll get to a point to shave it.  Need to get some shears this week.  I have a wig and a bunch of scarves, hats, turbans.  I rarely ever splurge on myself, but I did get probably more than I need with headcoverings.  Nothing too fancy.  I don't work outside the home right now, so figure I'll wear hats/scarves at home, a wig when in public.  

    I did have a weird dream about losing my hair the other night.  The first time I've kind of panicked over it.  I am more scared of what it's going to look like coming back in.  I am most definitely not a short hair gal (fat face and head LOL).

    I may have to have my sons stop by a LIDS store.  But, they will come back with one of those flat brimmed hats (I think make them look like dorks, but that's just me LOL).   

    Hang in there ladies.  Thinking about you all!

  • daffyc
    daffyc Member Posts: 50
    edited April 2013

    Let's talk fruits and vegetables a bit.  I know there probably is more info on another board, but thought I'd start here.

    I have info that says to cook vegetables for bacteria purposes, but then also says to eat fresh lettuce/greens, etc...  A little confusing.  I am not much of a cooked veggie person so am wondering what i can/should be eating.  I've been eating salads with fresh crudites (washed, scrubbed), but am thinking maybe that's not so great.  

    Frozen corn, peas, green beans, carrots should be ok?  

    What to peel?  

  • hushkat
    hushkat Member Posts: 66
    edited April 2013

    pebchristian - And anyone else wondering how to make a scarf look fashionable, I found a lot of good tutorials on You Tube.  I searched for headscarves, cancer scarves, chemo scarves, etc.  and then saved the ones I liked to a playlist.

    http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLAPlE-Fd_BhHhoQiJsZeRSQMK7lqS0umS

    I don't know if the link will take you to my playlist or not but there it is.  I named it CCI, that's the cancer center I go to. 

  • AllieM
    AllieM Member Posts: 44
    edited April 2013

    Second chemo today - and again the nurse asked me why I didn't get a port. I told her the doctor said I didn't need one and then she proceeded to tell me why they are so nice...don't ruin your veins...blah, blah, blah   She's the third one that's done that. Makes me a little nervous. Otherwise ok, noneventful visit. They were actually really nice and friendly today.

    Fruits and veggies - My MO said to just avoid certain things (leafy stuff, soft veggies/fruit or that has any sign of rotting even if you cut that part off) when my WBC/Neutrophil counts are low. What I've read says to avoid any pre-prepared stuff (cut up apples, lettuce mixes, etc) and stuff without skins, light skins, or difficult to wash. Wash skins really well before cutting anything. I have used apple cider vinegar 1:10 with water to wash fruits and veggies before, so I'm thinking that might be a good idea. I've also read not to eat any soft cheeses, take something to keep stuff cold/frozen at the grocery store and on the way home till you can get it in the fridge. Some veggies are actually better nutritionally when cooked, like carrots.

    Drying - I had trouble with my sinuses, mouth and eyes the first go-round.  Saline spray worked ok for my nose, but I'm thinking I might try to use some kind of ointment/balm, too. I bought some Aquaphor ointment that was recommended on one of these boards and then realized it has petroleum in it after I got home and my doc's paperwork recommends non-petroleum based lip stuff, so back to the store. I also go "miracle mouthwash" rx from my MO and that really helped and I plan on using the Biotene mouthwash also.

    Nausea/heartburn - I am just adding a couple of things to try, since I already had GERD before the BC and have learned a few tricks.  Chew gum after eating - it helps you salivate and saliva helps with digestion and also sooths your esophagus. Don't drink liquids with meals - it slows digestion. You can take some sips if you want but wait a while after eating and then drink something. I also sometimes drink ginger tea, slippery elm tea and drink aloe.

    Cummulative effect - From what I've read it does seem to get worse as you go, but I'm hoping that I (and all y'all) will prove that wrong.  I'm really trying to use that week before the next chemo that I actually feel ok to boost my strength and eat stuff that will help raise my blood levels back up.  We'll see...

  • Deb3kids
    Deb3kids Member Posts: 23
    edited April 2013

    I had my second chemo today and I feel yucky. My head is hurting and my stomach feels full and is making lots of noise. I did okay the first time around so I am surprised to feel like this. My face also feels and looks a little flushed. I can't wait til bedtime...

  • OnaWing
    OnaWing Member Posts: 35
    edited April 2013

    Just returned home from my first chemo. Started at 9am so it was a long day but I DID IT..... What a relief to have the first one down. Now that I know what to expect, I think the anxiety will not be nearly so bad for the next time.

    Maybe some of you can relate to this and get a giggle. The chemo suites are arranged in an elongated half circle and centered on two nurses' stations. As a first timer, you are placed front and center and watched very carefully for an adverse reaction. Not accustomed to this much attention, it made me think of an inmate in prison. As the day wore on, and their attention never waned, I began to think they must have heard the inmate could be a runner.  

    Warm hugs to all my BC sisters. Sleep well.

  • Deb3kids
    Deb3kids Member Posts: 23
    edited April 2013

    Yay for you OnaWing! You did it! The first one is the scariest for sure. Hope you have a nice peaceful evening:)

  • daffyc
    daffyc Member Posts: 50
    edited April 2013

    LOL the inmate could be a runner!!

    Hope you have a restful evening.  

  • heather214
    heather214 Member Posts: 142
    edited April 2013

    Onawing, AWESOME, first one out of the way. Despite my getting sick, I was so relieved to have that one under my belt. Congrats!

  • Virginger
    Virginger Member Posts: 111
    edited April 2013

    Well...1/2 day work is better than not at all I guess...boy did I pick a day to try and go back~ Craziness all around...felt very lethargic and in slow mo the whole time...we ending up on have 10 min of a news cast..Thoughts and Prayers for all those in Boston....was going on dinner break to get a better laxative....had a little movement there..but none today...and just decieded to hit the couch....think some good rest and a nce 'movement' well make me feel better....we shall see....chillin on the couch....<sigh>

    had some brown rice with quinoa and a few beets for dinner...hope everyone has an easy night....

  • indenial
    indenial Member Posts: 504
    edited April 2013

    I have found the solution for my hydration issues -- miso soup. (Yeah, a touch of soy in it, but seems minimal compared to the risk of dehydration!) Thought I'd mention it in case anyone else was struggling to drink enough. I want a never-ending bowl of soup!! But just one did me wonders and this evening I am feeling a lot better... which is weird because I really wasn't feeling badly to begin with, guess I felt a bit worse than I realized!

    Fruits & veggies -- I am still eating them raw, washing first a bit more thoroughly than usual. I usually live off salads and fresh fruit. The nurse at my chemo teaching told me it was OK to eat them if they were washed, but to avoid raw fish/meat. This week will be my nadir and I'm most worried about taking my son out & about because it's school vacation week. I'm the farthest thing ever from a germaphobe but this week we may just have to stay home & be bored!

    He is 4 years old, by the way, and have I mentioned how much he LOVES my bald head??? He says I look so pretty and he keeps rubbing it & he is trying to convince me to stay bald forever. I do NOT think I look good without hair but I have to say, he makes my heart explode. Smile

  • AllieM
    AllieM Member Posts: 44
    edited April 2013

    Congrats Onawing for not running!  I had flashbacks of a movie called "Coma" (way back) where they had all these people hooked up to tubes. I often get this feeling like it's not all real.  I suppose that's the chemo brain working, or maybe a defense mechanism. It's weird though.

    Favorite current saying: "Courage is not the absence of fear, but rather the judgement that something else is more important than fear." 

    Hushkat - I also have a sty and one eye has been twitching a lot (opposite eyes). Both of those things happen periodically, so I don't know if its from the chemo. But the eye twitching usually only happens for a day or so, off and on, but it's been every day, almost all day since I started the chemo.

    Deb3kids - Sorry you are feeling so poorly. Here's praying, hoping and crossing fingers that you and everyone on here has a restful night's sleep and things will feel/better tomorrow.  Does anyone else have trouble keeping up with all the posts - remembering who said what? 

  • Deb3kids
    Deb3kids Member Posts: 23
    edited April 2013

    AllieM- thanks for the kind thoughts! And, yes, it's hard to keep up with the posts. I want to comment/reply to everyone's messages but there is just not a enough time in the day. Then the posts go up and I lose track of who said what, also.

    So...for the record...thank you everyone for the love, concern, prayers and support! Thanks for listening and sharing! We will get through this together and we will be stronger women in the end.

  • Gardengirl33
    Gardengirl33 Member Posts: 65
    edited April 2013

    I hada a great day. I worked 8 hours that help keep my mind off of things.

    I went to a support group tonight. We were to have a guest show us how to apply makeup. A look good,feel good. We got great makeup bags, but unfortunately she never showed up? Don't know what happened, maybe she got the wrong night. So with just three of us and our nurse, we sat and talked for 1 1/2 hours. So nice, the two other ladies have had chemo. One had her second this a.m., they other had her second last week. They both have shaved there heads. So I learned about what to expect, how to wrap scarves. Wearing caps at night to keep the ol noggin warm. I tell you my perio menopause makes me HOT, I. Might be glad to shave the head!

    We talked about so many things. Two of us have the same doctors, surgeon, ps and oncologist. All three great! The other lady has not had her surgery yet, she is planning a prophylactic bmx. Chemo now to shrink her lump. It's great meeting new people, even greater that they are fighters! Make me feel confident, as does talking to you friends!

    So first chemo, 9 a.m. I have my snacks packed. Nuts, cheese sticks, oranges, frozen grapes, iced green tea caffeine free, H2O. I have my books, a magazine, my get well cards, going to get those cards put in an album. I'll take my IPad, music, pillows and a blanket. I would LOVE to sneak my dog Whiz in, lol. He is a cuddlier! I bet he could be there snuggling with me and no one know! Of course the other two dogs at home would be mad!

    Well friends, it's getting late. My prayers, my positive thoughts and my hugs to you all!

    God Bless!

  • CarolA5587
    CarolA5587 Member Posts: 26
    edited April 2013

    Hope you have an easy and uneventful experience, gardengirl. I'll be joining the party a day later on Wednesday. It's terribly difficult to put the control freak aside and do this thing that feels so uncontrolled. Surgery somehow feels nowhere near as scarey. But I'll be diving in there with the rest of you. Prayers and hugs!

  • Gardengirl33
    Gardengirl33 Member Posts: 65
    edited April 2013

    Deb3 I agree it is hard to respond to every post. I too would love to, and yes it would take all day :)

    So I have been awake since 3:30 a.m. Can't sleep! Ugh! It is 4:30 now. I gave in and got up. Thank goodness my dogs follow me downstairs to the couch. They are great company. I am not anxious today for my " cocktail" chemo. I am just ready to go in there and get it started. I feel good aboutmitmtoday and know this is not long term. This isn't hurting me. This is "medicine" to make sure I stay healthy long term!

    I was online last night looking at al kinds of cute hats. I'm not the girlie girl, but some werer adorable. I'm a simple country/ farm, gardening and camouflage kinda girl. I love cleaning up and looking pretty, so I like the idea of cute hats. Bandanas and scarves maybe not so much, will have to experiment.

    I think I have already started in my mind at least. The countdown to hair loss, sounds inevitable. So today is the 16th, hair starts to come out 12-14 days after 1st round. That would put me roughly around May 1st. One lady I met last night, her girlfriends had a "HAT" party for her! How fun, I had read about that idea.

    Great way to get a few different looks without spending a lot $

  • hushkat
    hushkat Member Posts: 66
    edited April 2013

    Today is day 13 after Chemo Cocktail #1, and there is no longer a doubt that the hair loss has begun.  I haven't dared to look at my pillow yet (Hubby still in there sleeping),  but when I went to the bathroom after getting up the toilet was filled with pubic hair!  OMG!  I'm terrified to get in the shower, will today really be the day that i have to put one of those chemo hats on?  Will I be shaving my head tonight?  Tomorrow? 

    Even with everything I've been through already (double mastectomy, chemo #1), I still haven't grasped that this is really happening to me.  I recovered so quickly and easily from the surgery and didn't have any real bad side effects from the first chemo (Neulasta hurt though).  Up until this very moment I've felt more like an actress playing a role in a movie than a cancer patient.  The hair loss... the scarlet letter... this makes it real.  DANG IT!!!

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