Would a KETONE Diet Kill Cancer?

I juice in my magic bullet. Comes great. Kale, broccoli, celery, beet, green apple or strawberry to give sweetness. I exchange beets with carrots sometimes. When out of broccoli I add Brussels sprouts.

bhiri, I might be wrong but I thought the magic bullet basically chopped up the vegetables. There is no waste so we are getting the fiber that is lost in true juicing.

Yes Love the fact that all fibers will be intact.

GREAT article on juicing vs. eating the whole veg/fruit..http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2011/11/13/benefits-of-juicing.aspx

BTW, Norwalk IS the best juicer...and, I did not spend $2500 for it brand new...I bought an excellent/older one for MUCH less on Ebay...I know a few people personally who have cured their cancers through juicing alone.  Also, whe you juice 3 times a day...need to also do one enema to get rid of the toxin overload on the liver..the juicing is very effective at breaking toxins down.

Agree to disagree again...even on the enemas...

I'm another one who votes for chewing my veggies. Some veggies are more digestible after cooking and we get more nutrients out of them then - like carrots where the cell walls are tough. If juicing was actually breaking down more cell walls, I could see that might help. I suspect it may help some people with some digestive issues too but in that case unless they're also working on their gut flora and such, the juicing may not be any better anyway...

Momine, yes, you and I seem to be limiting our diets in similar ways. I think the red meat question may come down to quality of the meat and then the particular individual. The major food studies over the last couple decades all show roughly the same thing, that eating *some* red meat tends to have a protective affect against all cause mortality. a  good read about this is here:

http://www.zoeharcombe.com/2012/03/red-meat-mortality-the-usual-bad-science/

She's done a couple of these and rawfoodsos.com tackles some of this. (rawfoodsos's author is nearly vegetarian eating some seafood and mussels and eggs to round out her plant diet.) My current thinking is that a few ounces (under 100 grams) of grass-fed beef and pastured pork a couple of times a week will provide me with a lot of nutrition while I'm still healing up. I'll re-examine in June. For someone else, especially who has never had the gut issues I have with celiac disease, maybe once or twice a month is all they'll need to feel 100% especially if they incorporate good eggs and fish in their diet. I can't get good fish but I'm eating more from frozen than I used to. Marine foods seem to come out on top in every study and critique of these kinds of studies I've read. I've been tracking my intake via cronometer.com and since I don't eat the refined flours that have supplements added back into them (common practice in the USA anyway) I find that my thiamin and folate aren't high enough unless I throw in those red meats a couple times a week.

p.s. good page on meat info with citations: http://diagnosisdiet.com/food/meats/

Allur, yes, meat does provide concentrated nutrition of various kinds, and I do eat some. During treatment I almost stopped at one point, and it became apparent that I was not getting enough protein to heal properly.

Also agree on the cooked veggies. I eat many raw ones, but tomatoes, for example, are strictly speaking better cooked when it comes to fighting cancer. It does take a fair amount of discipline to get 8+ servings of veggies a day, but I find that it makes for a better diet all around.

Heidi, I find that it does become a habit after a while. Today I found a bunch of fresh asparagus in the store (for some reason a rarity down here), I sauteed them with fresh garlic (like scallions, only garlic) and stirred in 2 eggs. There was way more asparagus than egg. On the side I had a salad of tomato, cukes and about 2 tablespoons of navy beans. Small piece of wholegrain, sourdough bread on the side. All in all, about 3 cups of veggies, equal to 6 servings.

In the old days, I would have eaten half the asparagus, added another egg and some cheese and made an omelette. Then I probaby wouldn't have bothered with the side salad and I would have eaten 2 slices of bread instead.

Be careful with grains as they are very inflammatory...Quinoa seems to be ok, though, and very yummy!

I just had some trouble, lost motivation, because everything seemed so confusing. Ketones are good, bad, good - maybe. WHAT TO BELIEVE. I really admire your discipline but for me I will have to find an easier way to begin. Maybe in time it will be possible for me to calculate and weigh everything.
What Im doing is blending vegetables (around 6-8 servings) and drinking that throughout the day. Im baking my own glutenfree bread, eating organic. I almost felt like giving up because I feel like its impossible to find the right answer. Then I started to think; what FEELS right?

We don't need studies to know what it feels like to eat a given diet. My ketogenic diet was perhaps a little TOO extreme, but I was also doing it during radiation. I will just allow a little more carbs and keep doing it. I know I felt great.

Allurbad, I weigh about 53 kilos so she wasn't too far off based on your formula. She probably even mentioned that formula, but this was 5 years ago already. I haven't gone back to her since because I have to travel quite far (15 hours flying time) to see her. I was hoping to find someone closer to home but haven't yet. She was a naturopathic doctor affiliated with a breast cancer center. Maybe I will go see a nutritionist at my breast center instead.

I completely agree, Cindy!