April 2013 Chemo Group

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  • indenial
    indenial Member Posts: 504
    edited April 2013

    I'm almost through with my first treatment! This part is not bad at all. I didn't have any reactions to anything but the Benadryl... I was acting a bit drunk for a while there & had the other patients & nurses cracking up!! Good thing I arranged for a ride home! Everyone is super nice. Anxious about what the coming days will bring but I'm happy to find this part is almost fun. :) The patient that just left was a riot! If anyone is a mom you will understand why 3 hours of infusions with no one whining or beggin you for anything is an amazing break lol.

    The one frustrating thing is the inconsistency between the advice I get from the nurses, onc, and nutritionist... leaves me spending a lot of time sorting things out for myself!

  • heather214
    heather214 Member Posts: 142
    edited April 2013

    BeHereNow, I have a lot of support at work. My boss, co-workers, everyone has been amazing. I mean AMAZING, they are even walking in my honor at an upcoming BC walk. Interestingly, I have noticed when I first told everyone I got an outpouring of "Let me help". I think everyone expected the usual immediate mastectomy and they would drop off food, etc. but as I said, I am doing pre-chemo. It seems like people have dropped by the wayside, or don't know what to do right now. I don't have much family, my mom and sister have both been supportive, but don't live nearby. I have every other Friday off, so that will be my treatment day. Then plan to rest through the weekend. But, as everyone pointed out, day 3-on can still be bad. My main concern is my 16 year old, by the time I get home I fall into bed. I have no energy to cook for her, shop, do homework. It is bad enough mom has cancer, but I feel like I am neglecting her in some ways. I thought I had a plan, but when I got so sick after the first treatments, I got a little nervous realizing, "this isnt how I expected it to go, I am superwoman. I am supposed to handle it all." =) I think I will see how the next treatment goes, and if it is as bad, may have to bite the bullet and cut my time down. My health is more important, and the thought of having the time to blog, or go for a walk, or swim in the middle of the day, sounds so good.

  • BeHereNow
    BeHereNow Member Posts: 222
    edited April 2013

    Heather, I'm glad you have great support. I'm sure you'll figure it out. I agree that less stress on your time would be helpful. I hope it all works out better than expected.



    Indenial--I found the chemo session sort of fun, too. Not as fun as yours, but fun :).

  • AllieM
    AllieM Member Posts: 44
    edited April 2013

    Hi all, I actually had my first chemo end of March, but figured I'd fit in better with this group. I am doing TC x4 and am in the "feeling much better" week before my next chemo. I'm wondering if anyone knows the criteria for getting the shot to boost white blood cells (neutrophils) that many people get. My count is still very low and my doc says just let him know if I run fever. I've been reading, but can't find a definite number that indicates just how low is too low. Anyone know? Also, I've read that at some point you wont run fever, so then how would you know?

    Oh, and my first chemo session wasn't what I'd call "fun", but I did sleep through most of it so that's a good thing.

    Also, (in answer to someones question about continuing to work), I am trying to keep working through it. I didn't have enough PTO when I had surgery, so I had to borrow 2 weeks in advance and then got short-term disability (1/2 pay) for another two weeks but had to go back to work. So, now if I take off I don't get paid until I get caught up on the two weeks I borrowed. I planned to have chemo's on Weds thinking that the worst would happen on the weekends. The first round worked out just that way, but days 2-10 were iffy. My tongue got icky on day 3 and got a really itchy neck rash days 5-7, serous lack of energy until this week. Luckily, I work in an office and don't have to do physical labor or deal with the public much.

    Good luck to everyone and nice to meet y'all.

  • Virginger
    Virginger Member Posts: 111
    edited April 2013

    Had my Chemo teach today. Went well took a friend who took some notes, got my prep drugs and signed up for genetic counseling. Not sure if bcbs of tx, my insurance company through work, will pay for this or not. Any of yall doing this genetic counseling?

    Did a full night at work. Still not sleeping enough.

    Hope the sleeping pills will work tonight. start prep Chemo drugs tomorrow...any side effects to look out for?

  • AllieM
    AllieM Member Posts: 44
    edited April 2013

    Virginger,

    I don't take any chemo "prep" drugs before hand, but get some IV right before the chemo stuff. A steroid and phenergan I think. The phenergan just makes me sleepy. I slept most of the time during infusion, but was awake enough to drive home. Some people say the steroids make them jittery or have difficulty sleeping but I didn't experience that this time. Also, I took Senokot the day before and a couple days after in case of constipation which seemed to help. (The antinausea medication can cause this) I developed a neck rash for a few days and took benedryl and put on cortisteroid cream which helped.

  • Virginger
    Virginger Member Posts: 111
    edited April 2013

    adding that to the check list...Senokot...thanks AllieM

  • Bryona
    Bryona Member Posts: 214
    edited April 2013

    Hi, y'all. Like Skigirl, I'm checking in from the January chemo thread. It sounds like you're taking good care of yourselves and each other. Keep that up; this whole thing would have been much, much worse without my chemo sisters.



    A lot of you have mentioned constipation. I started out on 500 mg of collace twice a day -- which is a ton! -- but still had trouble for theyou first 5 daysmonths of the first round of AC. Rounds 2-4, I added a dose of Miralax every morning days 1-4 and had no more troubles. The key is to figure out how long you need to medicate and how much, and then to start the meds right away, before the constipation starts. I started the collace as soon as I cot home from my treatment. Good luck!



    Heather214, I found days 3-5 on AC to be extremely difficult; work would have been impossible. If that happens for you, don't blame yourself. Don't beat yourself up when chemo knocks you down. When you need rest, rest. You won't do your daughter any favors if you spend two weeks recovering from overdoing it for those 2-3 days. Be kind to yourself. Also, in regards to your coworkers, a lot of people say, "I want to help," and then wait for you to tell them what to do. Of course, it's difficult to tell them (requires you to do the planning and decision-making, which can be tough during chemo, and it made me feel guilty and uncomfortable because I'm usually so independent), but most people don't realize that. Give them the benefit of the doubt, and tell them what you need. Meals? Yard work? Housework? Give them suggestions, and be sure to ask that one of them be the organizer and make a calendar. I'm betting -- and hoping --for that they didn't mean to fall by the wayside, and that they'll be back on track with a little nudge in the right direction.



    Hang in there, ladies. You can do this.

  • Irene1975
    Irene1975 Member Posts: 19
    edited April 2013

    Hi all! I would love to join your group. My chemo was supposed to be today, but they found my TE has an infection so they are now removing it this afternoon(Thursday) . So Chemo is delayed two weeks. The hard part is, it's the breast I elected to have removed with the cancerous one.So it's been a rough road.



    My port was put in on Monday, sore for two days but that was it. I'm hearing allot that the port is the best way to go.



    Parted with my hair over the weekend and got my wigs. But as odd as it sounds, it felt great having the windows down in the truck and not messing my hair:)



    So far in my journey I have learned:

    How strong I can be, even at my weakest moments

    Who my real friends where

    The complete meaning of unconditional love from my fiancé

    My 10 yr olds stuff being thrown on the couch after school, doesn't bother me much anymore or 15yr old with her music and headphones

    Cereal for dinner is ok, I don't have to always cook

    My kids really do know how to use the washing machine - yay!

    Oh and the best part, I can totally rock a Buzz Cut :-)



    I look forward to sharing, learning, growing and bonding with all of you. It's comforting to know that what we are going thru right now, someone else is too. (not that anyone should have to) And at that exact moment, that exact feeling your having, someone just totally gets you. That is priceless beyond it all.



    Irene

    p.s. if anyone hasn't parted with their hair yet and you have small kids, this is what I did to bond with mine littlest.... I always cut her hair for years, she is 10. She asked me one night to cut her hair - I am not a hair dresser, but a straight trim is fine- so after I was done, I said you should cut mommy's hair. I got the look as if I was offering ice cream for dinner. And then the great big OK! She stared at me for a good 10 mins with the scissors in hand with fear. Once I said do what ever you want, she had soooo much fun! So remember, your going to have to part ways so do the things you never would have. Even if its kool aid dye your hair :)
  • ffranny
    ffranny Member Posts: 16
    edited April 2013

    I notice you took Benadryl rather than Claritin, as most others have mentioned. I'd prefer to take that (or generic equivalent), since I know it doesn't make me twitchy. Any particular dosage? And does it really help? Thanks!

  • AllieM
    AllieM Member Posts: 44
    edited April 2013

    Irene,

    What a great post - welcome! My son just came home on leave and he gets the honor of "shearing" my head today. He has lots of experience. I didn't expect my hair to fall out until after my second chemo, so the handfuls took me by surprise. Wondering what a henna tattoo would look like on there?

    About the constipation - I eat mostly whole grains and fruits,veggies - hardly any meat, or dairy, so that may be why the senokot worked ok for me. Also, I can't get enough of those fruit only popsicles (berry flavor) now that nothing tastes good. They were wonderful when my tongue was feeling raw.

    Hope the infection clears up fast and you are back on track.

  • LKSHER
    LKSHER Member Posts: 209
    edited April 2013

    I snuggled with my daughter last night and we fell asleep together. After she went to bed, she started throwing up. :(

    Now I am not sure I should start chemo today, as who knows if this will go through the whole house. I have called and am waiting to hear back.

  • LKSHER
    LKSHER Member Posts: 209
    edited April 2013

    Okay, they told me to still come in. Trying to breathe.

  • Virginger
    Virginger Member Posts: 111
    edited April 2013

    sending positive thoughts LKSHER! I start tomorrow...

  • LKSHER
    LKSHER Member Posts: 209
    edited April 2013

    Back atcha, Virginger!

  • BeHereNow
    BeHereNow Member Posts: 222
    edited April 2013

    Sending good wishes to everyone starting this week!



    Welcome to our newcomers!



    Bryona-thanks for the constipation ideas! And thanks for your encouragement.



    AllieM-I was given a neulasta shot 24 hours after my chemo. It kept my blood counts from plummeting, and I was glad because a cold and sinus infection happened :). You may not run a fever if you're sick. If it were me, I'd insist on a neulasta shot. But beware the neulasta side effects can be worse than the chemo (bone and joint pain). People take Claritin at least the day before, day of, and day father the neulasta. I just have stayed on the Claritin for spring allergies. You are your best advocate. I insisted on a few things from my MO and it was stressful, but I'm sooooo worth it! So are you.



    Irene-welcome! Great idea to let your kid cut your hair :).



    LKSHER-I'm sorry to hear your daughter got sick. My husband got sick the day of my first chemo. I had my sister go through my house and wipe down everything. Then Mike and I tried to keep some physical distance. I know it's harder with a little one. Good luck. And whatever happens, your medical team will help.



    Virginger-good luck tomorrow! I have done a lot of work in the Charlotte area, in the medical field, but not in BC. I will be thinking of you and will look forward to hearing how it goes.



    Take care, all!

  • dede707
    dede707 Member Posts: 48
    edited April 2013

    hi April ladies, 

    I just got caught up on the posts. You ladies are ROCK! So insightful, genuine and sweet. Thankful for the tech that allows us to connect.

    Virginger and LKSHER- you will do great with the first one. I think it's day 3-5 to watch out for, my onc said it was the crash from the steroids. I suggest having premade, healthy meals ready. Drink a ton of water. If you are getting the Neulasta- take Claritine or antihistamine morning of and for a few days. My thoughts are with you! 

    Heather- I took a leave since my dx, I'm a teacher and it was too much energy and germs. I wanted to save my energy for my little ones. So, can you go on disability? or cut part time? I am union and union members were allowed to donate a sick day to me- that stretched into 2 months. 

    Also- there are house cleaning services that donate housecleaning while in chemo. There is the Ceres Project (not sure if in your areas), but bring you food while in chemo - it is food specifically for chemo patients.  My girlfriends set up mealtrain- online . We have meals delivered 3x a week from friends. It has been a godsend. I don't have the energy during chemo week and it relieves my dh of the task. It also has saved us a ton of money. There is a website called Lots of Helping Hands- people sign up for different tasks. 

    If anyone needs the Neulasta shot- the company helps with the expense if your insurance doesn't. Just another resource I found. 

    I, like most of you here, am independent and it was hard to ask for help. What I learned is- it is okay to ask and get help. I need it. People don't always know what to say or what to do, but they want to help. I am humbled by the generosity  my family has received during this time. I have always paid it forward, but will continue to do so after treatment and then some. 

    Had my Herceptin infusion on Monday- was fine.  This week, Spring is here in Northern California, so I'm taking advantage of walking everyday, enjoying my family and friends, and planning for the #2. 

    P.S. Thanks for the hair shares- I am getting nervous (anxiety) about the hair. I'm day 10 post infusion and know it is coming. I pick up my "normal" wig today and have a ton of other hair stuff ready. Going to plan a shaving party with my children, everyone suggests it as an easier way. I feel like it is the last big anxiety hurdle and then all these crazy unanswered things about bc treatment will temporarily be answered. I am worried that then- yup I'm a cancer patient. That is what I look like. I'm anxious for my kids. 

    Well, thats my ramble. Love you Lovely Ladies! Have a healing and healthy day. 

    Muah- Denise

  • indenial
    indenial Member Posts: 504
    edited April 2013

    I have to say, I love the optimism here! It brings a smile to my face & hope to my heart. :)

    I'm only 1 day post-chemo but here's my experience so far for those who haven't started yet & want a play-by-play:

    This week - started l-glutamine, swish & swallow 10mg 3x/day to help with mouth/stomach issues and neuropathy. Stopped all my other vitamins & supplements.

    Day before -- took steroids with dinner (I'm only on half-dose of steroids) -- they made me "high" and I actually loved it lol, got so much done & was in a great mood & not anxious! I didn't sleep all night though, only got about 3 hours in the early morning, and they also gave me very mild heartburn. (Oh, and I started taking colace the night before & will continue for several days.)

    Day of -- IV benadryl made me drunk & sleepy. Also got more steroids, Pepcid for acid reflux & Aloxi for nausea, stays in your system for 3-4 days & I haven't had to take a single nausea pill yet! Took a long walk when I got home. Was really wiped out by evening, but had to take another dose of steroids which made it hard to sleep. I did sleep, but very fitfully with long stretches of awake time. Mild heartburn again from the steroids. 

    Day 1 post-chemo -- woke up feeling pretty good, took my son on errands & to story time. I don't really have any symptoms, just kind of sleepy (probably from the lack of sleep itself, not the chemo!) Not very hungry but that's not really unusual for me, I tend to be an erratic eater lol. No nausea or mouth sores or anything yet. My digestive system is a bit off -- I think the meds made my body "forget" how to go -- like my lower part of my digestive tract is kind of paralyzed? Probably the Aloxi which is related to Zofran (I had the same effect from Zofran post-surgery) so I'm keeping up the colace & staying patient. No major discomfort.

    If the steroids do such a great job at warding off reactions & side effects, I wonder why they don't just have us take them for a week+ straight??? I'm tempted to experiment! But I won't... not yet at least. ;)

    I shaved my head last night since I was feeling good. Wanted to take care of that well before any started falling out. I'm not sure what I think. It's not horrible but looks weird to me. I also thought I'd feel like a "cancer patient" once I shaved my head, but I don't. I just feel like me, minus hair. It was very unemotional for me. Sleeping on stubble was annoying -- every time I moved my head I got a pins & needles sensation that woke me up. I grabbed a hat & that helped a ton (even though it felt a bit too warm!) so... sleep with a hat if you have stubble! I managed to go in public this morning with just a scarf and only had one person stare. It wasn't as bad as I anticipated, most people just acted friendly & normal, & I'm glad I got it over with. 

  • BeHereNow
    BeHereNow Member Posts: 222
    edited April 2013

    I'm getting my hair cut on day 15, and the shop will make a halo hair piece with my own hair. I think I'll like the halo, although without a hat I would look like a monk... Lol



    I'm very sad about my hair. Recently, someone caught up with me at a conference and said, "I knew it was you when I saw your hair!"



    Bummer. I guess it's sort of my "trademark."



    I think once I actually get it cut, I'll adjust quickly. But I keep thinking, I don't want to look like Dr. Evil. Lol

  • heather214
    heather214 Member Posts: 142
    edited April 2013

    Denise, thanks for the info and support. Looks like you and I are on the same chemo schedule, I too am just waiting for the hair to go - but so far - nothing. I am starting to itch just to shave it off and get it over with. Then my mom mentioned I may be the "ONE" whose hair doesn't fall out, so who knows. =) Take care of yourself.

                                                                                                Heather

  • erinm216
    erinm216 Member Posts: 126
    edited April 2013

    Hi all,

    I have to admit I am so anxious this week. I feel like this is the worst I have felt since I was Dx in January.

    I am worried I am depressed too because I feel like crying and just want to sleep. I am already on Antidepressant as it.

    I start Chemo on the 23rd and feel like I am walking the green mile.  It is so hard to know that I feel fine now but I proabably wont in the near future.

    This is just venty but I am so overwhelmed and knew this would be the place to get it out.

  • AllieM
    AllieM Member Posts: 44
    edited April 2013

    Hi Erin,

    Once I got started with chemo just knowing that I'm getting closer to being finished was a big relief for me....and realizing that I will live through it and it was not as bad as I thought.  For me all the research and doctor visits and going back and forth trying to make the decision whether to get chemo at all was exhausting. The more I read, the more depressed I got.  One trick I learned when my huband died years ago was to limit the amount of time I allowed myself to "wallow".  I mean, if I got really depressed and couldn't avoid it I'd just give in and be a hermit for a couple of days. But 2 days is my max. I don't know if this will work for you, because I've never been diagnosed as clinically depressed and I assume some people can't just snap themselves out of it the way I do.

    Do you have some supportive people around to help you? Don't be afraid to ask for help if you need it. Try to find a way to distract your mind. I keep thinking about what I'm going to do and where I am going to go once I'm done with chemo and recovered. This diagnosis  made me start thinking that it's time to start enjoying my life and make things happen instead of waiting for just the right time and circumstances. Geez, sometimes you have to be kicked in the b*** to realize that life really is too short to waste too much time being miserable. If you don't have access to counseling already, you can contact the American Cancer Society or the Komen organization and they have support group listings, phone and online support.

    Get outside if you can, walk around....do something you enjoy if possible.

    Best of luck to you... 

  • BeHereNow
    BeHereNow Member Posts: 222
    edited April 2013

    Hi erinm216,



    I'm sorry you're enduring so much anxiety and depression. That has been one of my biggest fears! My breast surgeon referred me to the psychiatrist at the hospital who works with all of her BC patients.



    The psychiatrist upped my antidepressant and I feel much better. We also are going to meet regularly (monthly) during my tx to continually monitor my depression and anxiety.



    Good luck! Glad you vented here:)

  • Virginger
    Virginger Member Posts: 111
    edited April 2013

    Hi erinm216,

    That, to me, is what this board is for..to VENT, share your fears, get advise and most of all love and encourgement....We Are Here For Each Other <3

  • dede707
    dede707 Member Posts: 48
    edited April 2013

    Yes, this is the place to vent and share. I just picked up my wig. Wow. It's cute, but don't know how I am going to feel. Before I just go for the shave, the woman said, you know, some people just thin. She told me wait until there is too much hair in the drain then go for the shave. I already cut my hair super short. It's overwhelming. 

    I found the website for the free housecleaning.  It is www.cleaningforareason.org

    It is a national organization. I am setting mine up today. It is 4 free cleanings during chemo. Once a month during treatment. Anything will help. 

    I am forcing myself to go to a fundraiser for my daughter's school tonight. A date night with the hubby. I hope people don't barrage me with questions,  I just want a night off from thinking of BC. Maybe I should wear a sign. 

    Have a great night ladies. I hope all find peace and solace and relaxation. 

    Denise

  • heather214
    heather214 Member Posts: 142
    edited April 2013

    Erin, although I did not have the same feelings leading up to chemo, your feelings are completely normal. It is a grieving process of sorts, but important to remember this is a challenge that will not last forever. Give yourself room to cry, feel, and mourn the loss of "the way it was". But, know that this too shall pass. Often the anxiety we build up leading up to new events are larger than the event itself. Just know that we are all in the same boat, and we are here to support you! I feel bad sometimes because I feel like many others on here are so much more "positive" than me. But, I am me, and I have days where I am on my pity-potty, others that I am so pissed off that I got cancer! One day, I was so mad, I got in my car and just drove, screaming at the cancer at the top of my lungs. Thank God the windows were up, but I know I still looked like a lunatic =) After though, I felt SO much better. My motto is Hang in and Hang on. HUGS!

  • LKSHER
    LKSHER Member Posts: 209
    edited April 2013

    I hope this helps someone. I cried as they lead me back for chemo. So terrified and sad. I ended up enjoying myself. Watched a funny movie with my husband and I reveled in the attention. We just finished a nice dinner out. I sucked ice chips and Popsicles the whole time. Drinking LOTS of water!! Hoping to pee it all out quickly. I feel fine right now and although I am aware this may change in the near future, it wasn't nearly as bad as I thought. In fact, kind of fun....

    I apparently have a very strange case, so lots of young doctors want to talk to me and I like knowing that I may be helping others and I am continuing to teach in some way.

    Also, the more doctors helping me the better. We laughed through most of the infusion. I plan to keep drinking and stay on top of the meds. Praying it works.

  • BeHereNow
    BeHereNow Member Posts: 222
    edited April 2013

    Glad it went well, lksher!

  • Virginger
    Virginger Member Posts: 111
    edited April 2013

    So nice to know LKSHER...I start tomorrow, had a nice meal tonight...and one of my Best Friends flew in from back home to be with me...hope I feel as great as you, as I have a LONG list of thing for her to help me with around the condo...can you say Tile Back Slash...lol small area and she said she can knock it out in 1/2 hour...wooohooo....almost wish we could post pictures on here....oh well....and I have always been a Diet Coke Queen..switching over to Water and plan on chewing ice all day tomorrow!

    Peaceful Thoughs everyone :-)

  • Skigirl72
    Skigirl72 Member Posts: 478
    edited April 2013

    Ladies, Think about adding L-Lysine to your vitamins. I take 500 twice daily. That helps keep the mouth sores at bay. Also, My nurse only had me chew on ice while she was pushing the Adriamycin not the entire time I was there. I did have a huge cold bottled water with me. I also made sure I went pee a few times while I was there to get the Adriamycin out! So you pee red/orange/pink for one or two times after infusion. I always felt better when I finally could pee a normal color. (sorry for the TMI).

    Lksher- I cried when I sat down for my first infusion. I looked around and saw other women bald or with scarves. It was finally real. After I got settled in I felt better and by the end of the day I was ok. I think the anticipation gets the best of us and then we find out that it's not the end of the world. Yup, it's chemo... but not the end of the world.

    Wishing all of you minimal SEs

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