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  • edwards750
    edwards750 Member Posts: 3,761
    edited April 2013

    my2boys - this forum is a lifeline and a godsend isnt it? Everyone else had wonderful and helpful responses so no way to top theirs except to say I am a huge NYY fan too and cant remember the last time they lost on opening day. I think it is going to be a long season for the Bronx Bombers given their injuries and they are just getting too old to play professional baseball...is what it is. I will say I bet all the mothers of teenagers can relate to their attitude. A friend/dr told me not to take it personally(how else would I take it) when my youngest son was a SA...it was growing pains and he is finding himself. I told him thats fine but while he is doing that he is not going to talk back or be disrespectful. I cant tell you how many times I told him I am not one of your friends so you are not talking that way to me...sigh. My son had a hard time initially with the bc dx but I have not had to endure a lot other than Rads treatments which I drove myself to in the early AM and was back home in under 2 hours and most of that was drive time. Of course they are all sick of it; most of all you. I cant help but feel outrage sometimes when people react this way, save the children, because its not like we asked for it. Good grief that is beyond insensitive. No comment to speak of on your husband. Maybe he needs to be reminded of the better or worse part of his wedding vows. Anyone can be a devoted spouse when everything is going well its when its not that really counts and tells you what kind of person they really are. In closing my husband almost did what you contemplated. He has depression issues and wasnt taken his meds but I digress..point is I have thought everyday about what might have happened and how sad that would have been for my children and me. The same would be true of your family. So keep the faith; we are all praying and pulling for you. Diane

  • patti13
    patti13 Member Posts: 89
    edited April 2013

    wait....i have one burning question....are you a YANKEES fan????  here in vt. there are a few yankee fans amongst us (well, more than a few, we are making lists) and have to tell ya, all in good fun (sort of)....lol!  sooo glad you are feeling better..please keep in touch with us.  go red sox.  hugs

  • footprintsangel
    footprintsangel Member Posts: 43,890
    edited April 2013

    My thoughts and prayers are with You

    Please feel free to talk or if You need a

    prayer, I am thinking good thoughts a

    know  You new family here will always care, God bless You Debbie

  • Cyborg
    Cyborg Member Posts: 848
    edited April 2013

    My2boys

    Glad you are feeling the love from these boards.

    Find those simple things that bring you back to you. Example: I feel happy when I am reading in the sunlight . Even in my backyard, this feels so nurturing.

    You are in my heart.

  • ButterflyLady
    ButterflyLady Member Posts: 136
    edited April 2013

    So glad to hear from you, My2boys.  I too draw my strength from  my faith in God. It was very couragous to reach out to us on here.  We all need a safe place to talk,vent, cry, or what ever we need to do.  These are a great bunch of women on here.  We understand and get it, dealing with this cancer beast.  Sending lots of ((((Hugs)))) and prayers.

  • patti13
    patti13 Member Posts: 89
    edited April 2013

    oops my2boys - had i seen your earlier post regarding which ny team you support - i wouldn't have asked if you were a yankees fan!  sorry! anyway....go sox

  • ThereseD
    ThereseD Member Posts: 57
    edited April 2013

    Perhaps in addition to you getting help ASAP your sons should get help, as should your husband. Cáncer is an individual and a family crisis. Ongoing help is needed Since we all Want to live joyously and healthily. You have a lot of courage. Hold on to it despite difficult treatments and family UPS and downs. Wishing you much happiness.

  • my2boys
    my2boys Member Posts: 339
    edited April 2013

    Well, my husband started in on me again and yes, I became upset, but the difference is that now I know his words are just sick words and they have no power over me. I know that I didn't cause this disease, if anything....stress caused it. I know that I have done everything in my power to fight this disease and my kids have had a good childhood....better than most kids, despite what I am going through. I may be stuck with him because if I end our marriage, I will lose my health coverage, but I don't have to give his words any weight. I love my children and I won't let a nasty man cause them to lose their mother.

  • footprintsangel
    footprintsangel Member Posts: 43,890
    edited April 2013

    I am praying that You are able to find a comfort place

    for Yourself that You are able to be alone and think

    good things, try writing down the bad in the back of  a

    notebook and good things in the front. and then You

    have something to lean on. I have a grateful journal and

    use the back for challenges, close it I gave it to God.

    You in my prayers. Footprintsangel

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited April 2013

    my2boys, I LOVE your new attitude and insight. That sort of perspective gives you much more power and, yes, you have much to be proud of. Raising two boys and dealing with cancer so that you can be there for them are no small accomplishments.

    Unfortunately, too often the people we once thought were our closest allies are not really the caring, nurturing people we need. Cancer brings out the truth in relationships, for better and for worse. 

  • Moiralf
    Moiralf Member Posts: 1,056
    edited April 2013

    You go girl, well done on owning the truth. You sound so much stronger and in control today. This is stressful and you don't need your husband to take his own pain and stress out on you.

    You said earlier that your marriage had been very strong and happy so it is sad to hear that your husband doesn't stand beside you now and be able to support each other. But that is not something you can change unless he acknowledges that he needs help and speaks to someone about his anger and pain.

    You have done the tough step and reached out to help yourself  so congrats to you. Your children are lucky to have you.

    Stay strong and be proud of yourself.

    Moira

  • patti13
    patti13 Member Posts: 89
    edited April 2013

    my2boys - keep talking!  you are getting strong!  you have much to be proud of..

  • softness1
    softness1 Member Posts: 217
    edited April 2013

    My2boys that is how you do it!!!! I'm so proud you are reclaiming yourself and is not letting him affect you. That's his burden not yours..

  • Lily55
    Lily55 Member Posts: 3,534
    edited April 2013

    My2 boys - way to go......xx

  • milkyway2
    milkyway2 Member Posts: 259
    edited April 2013

    I am in the same situation. Hear these same Word every week. Remember your husband can find another girl but your kids will never find another mother you are the only one who can take care of your kids.

    I had cancer twice i know god made me alive because of my kids. Kids are the only reason. Forget about the suicide god gave you life you have no right to finish it. Go for help tell your husband if u go for any suicide attempt he will be in trouble too

    You are not the only one if you can fight cancer you can fight everything



    words

  • milkyway2
    milkyway2 Member Posts: 259
    edited April 2013

    We get to know the real faces because of this disease

  • my2boys
    my2boys Member Posts: 339
    edited April 2013

    Hi Ladies,



    Feeling stronger every day. As one of you suggested, I take a little time each day and do something for myself. Today, on the way to pick up my son from practice, I stopped at a favorite shop and spent a few minutes browsing at the lovely items for sale and listening to the music. When I arrived home, I went for a short walk with my dear friend and trusted neighbor. It only takes a little thing like that to help.



    As for my husband, I cannot control his actions, I can only control my reaction to them. Once it clicked, I noticed that he stopped dead in his tracks and has done an about face.....even if he hadn't, there is nothing I can do about it.



    I am glad that I started this thread, because several of you have messaged me that you have felt the same way at different times on your journey. I am glad that we now have a dialogue going and perhaps other women who are feeling hopeless will read these encouraging responses and find strength.



    Thank you again to all of you lovely ladies....and one man (Colt45).



  • exbrnxgrl
    exbrnxgrl Member Posts: 12,424
    edited April 2013

    Brava, my2boys! Our path is rocky so each small victory is epic.

    Caryn

  • Colt45
    Colt45 Member Posts: 771
    edited April 2013

    Aw, now... you're making me blush.



    Listen. YOU inspired me today. And get this straight----you inspire your kids. Even if they struggle to realize it now, they will draw upon the strength and resolve---later---that you show now.

    This gift you give to them is invaluable. It also enables you to BE THERE----which so happens to be the best thing in the world for them.

    Grace, humanity and POWER. These things are YOU.



    Bless you.



    Bless everyone here.

  • indenial
    indenial Member Posts: 504
    edited April 2013

    I am amazed at how strong and confident you have become in just a few short days. I want you to hold on tight to how quickly you went from the depths of despair to a place of strength & courage & determination, with this new perspective to go with it. Not only do feelings pass, but you have shown yourself that you can ride it out and be in a much better place fairly quickly (though I'm sure it felt like an eternity at the time!) 

  • Ariom
    Ariom Member Posts: 6,197
    edited April 2013

    My2boys, you are amazing!

    I had been watching what was going on with this thread, and I was worried for you, but to see where you are now, is just so uplifting.

    I am not surprised that your husband has done a turnaround, your shift in attitude has probably shaken him a bit. Good for you!

    Please continue to do things for you, go shopping and spend time with your lovely, trusted neighbor.  You deserve it, and it will continue to make you feel more confident.

    I am sure that your being able to share this, on this Forum has helped a lot of others, who may have been in a similar situation.

    Take care of you!

  • footprintsangel
    footprintsangel Member Posts: 43,890
    edited April 2013

    My2boys, I am so proud how better you are doing. Please

    remember You are very important to alot of lifes.

    Hugs and Prayers Footprintsangel

  • minxie
    minxie Member Posts: 484
    edited April 2013

    I'm glad you're doing better, My2boys. Sounds like your husband needs some serious counseling to get him dealing with the realities of breast cancer. Either that, or a boot out to the street.

    Not to hijack this thread, but I will admit that the subject topic caught my eye. I've often wondered why so few people on these boards ever mention suicide or suicidal thoughts. You must all be more well-adjusted than me. Or maybe it's one of those things no one wants to admit to?

  • indenial
    indenial Member Posts: 504
    edited April 2013

    Minxie, I'm willing to bet that at least several of us that replied (or maybe more!) have had these thoughts at times. It's hard to talk about. You wouldn't believe some of the thoughts that have crossed my mind, some I'm just too embarassed or ashamed to admit. (And I guess the plus side of having a long history of mental health issues comes in handy when you're diagnosed with BC because you already have experience coping with severe depression, anxiety, etc... at least it's been that way for me... I can appear "well-adjusted" but I'm just very good at dealing with extreme emotions and really hard stuff.) I'm glad myboys posted this because we were able to help her, and also because others who are too afraid to post about this topic can benefit from all the amazing, heartfelt responses. I'm sorry Minxie that your mind has gone there too, and please talk about it if/when you feel the need to. Know that we are all here for you to support you however we can. Hugs.

  • yemaya
    yemaya Member Posts: 20
    edited April 2013

    Go talk to a therapist about your suicidal thoughts, get in touch and talk w/your kids and then divorce your husband.  Sorry, but he sounds like a cruel man.

  • maltomlin
    maltomlin Member Posts: 343
    edited April 2013

    You can only do this for you........nobody else. But rest assured that you will feel better after treatment. I'm nearly 5 years after treatment, but at the beginning I was convinced I was going to die. I still have my funeral wishes on the PC and they will stay there, as will my hospital bag on top of the wardrobe. 

    Do this for you. You want your life back ? Well you will.

  • shinning_like_me
    shinning_like_me Member Posts: 25
    edited May 2013

    lol

    more than cancer your husband's behaviour will kill you soon.

    its better you stood up and told him that you didnt do this to yourself and secondly it will not ruin their childhood as you are not dead yet and also. they will become more responsible towards everything in the world and also they will be better human for future after knowing that their father is such a rude person to their ailled mmom will ruin their childhood more than anything else.

  • Kayce234
    Kayce234 Member Posts: 249
    edited June 2013

    Your kids would never be better off without you...I've seen it first hand in my family and it messes up the kids.  Honestly, only reason I'm still here....love my kids, keep loving yours and please find someone, a counselor to talk to...

  • cmharris59
    cmharris59 Member Posts: 496
    edited June 2013

    Minxie: When I was dx'ed 6 yrs ago, suicide was all that I could think about. I posted it in a few of my threads but mainly used the chat rooms to discuss my feelings. It isn't that we haven't felt it at some time or another and kept it to ourselves, perhaps it is just that it is lost in the middle of a different thread.  For me, at the time of dx, I had great life insurance and was alone. Death seemed preferable for all concerned, especially me. I had sound, logical, rational reasons for it except the final outcome. This site helped a lot. Since then, I can honestly say that I have had many moments when those feelings come back and I am ready to end it all.  

    Hate to admit what stops me.. my life insurance is gone (lost in a mix-up with HR). Now there is no one that will care for my cats without that insurance money. So as long as my cats are here, I will be. I DO know that I do not want to outlive my mother for more than one day.  She is 87 and my best friend. When she is gone, I am responsible for doling out the inheritance to my 5 older siblings and I know I won't survive that. None of them wanted anything to do with me before or since the dx.  My "friends" have abandoned me since the dx as I knew they would. No surprises. In fact, many still post to me on FB that I am a drain on our economy because I am on disability, Medicare, and Social Security... Funny, I thought I paid a premium all those working years so that I could have those benefits. Granted, I expected to work another 20 years paying into the system. but cancer stopped that.

    We each have our own demons, that show themselves with this dx. What was OK, gets bad; was bad becomes worse.  Counseling and coping skills are wonderful tools for battling the demons, and when you can't get or manage them, this site and these wonderful women always manage to come to the rescue! I hope that all of you battling your demons make it through this experience stronger than you were.

    C

  • mrenee68
    mrenee68 Member Posts: 383
    edited June 2013

    I know that when I first started this journey there were more than a few times I had some very dark thoughts. It all just seemed too much and not worth the effort. Everyone on this journey will face many challenges whether it be family, friends, finances, medical decisions, etc. We all cope in different ways, but hopefully we can push through all of the demons and dark thoughts and come out on the other side a stronger person.

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