Starting Chemo February 2013
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Ywheels I am getting silicone as my PS said my skin is very thin and saline will ripple over time. My co worker has saline as ten years ago that is all they did and hers are rippled on the sides. I just dont know if I want the tear drop or round or gummy or not. I may call Monday and see if I can get a tiny fill. I think I will just have to get several more small fills to avoid the pain. If I wasn't having chemo too I could maybe suck it up, but I feel bad enough from the chemo. Even though it has been two weeks since my last treatment I still cant leave the house for more then an hour without feeling so tired and ill.
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Hi ladies! I'm from March 2013 Chemo group...I'm 27 yrs old and was diagnosed on Jan 23rd with IDC grade 3, stage 2, triple negative . I underwent a bilateral mastectomy on March 1st...I go in on the 22nd to have my port placed, and my chemo treatments start on the 25th. Oncologist ordered 4 rounds is AC followed by 4 rounds of Taxol...I am so nervous to start this chemo and would love if you ladies could give me detailed realistic information on how it affected each of you...and also information on the port placement. I have this obsession with knowing everything possible whether its good or bad...knowing what to expect has helped me so much! I read the good, bad, and ugly about my surgery before having it, and I'm thankful I did because this whole process ended up being a lot easier that I expected...I'm healing well, and doing a lot more than I thought I'd be able to...but please , as much info, good or bad, I'd love to hear all your stories!! Thank you!!!!
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Losing my hair was very difficult as well it came out in bunches. The little I have is in a very thin ponytail and I'm wearing Hat since it's so thin. My next treatment is tomorrow and I'm focused on surviving that. I'm also anemic. So my main concern is having enough protein. Good luck to everyone
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Keke713,
I had my port placed late in January. I was very scared at the mere thought of having it inserted. As it turned out, the port has been no big deal. After the procedure, I had a little bit of soreness, but nothing major. When I go in for the chemo treatments, I have never had any pain when they insert the infusion lines. Now, I do not even notice it.
Even though chemo can be a real butt kicker, it is something you will get through. I am starting chemo #3 on Wednesday, even though I know it will not be a lot of fun, I am looking forward to getting it over with.
Talk with your doctor about taking the nausea medicines, sleep aides, constipation and diarreha meds. As you will see on these boards - we all drink gobs of water before, during and after chemo. If you get the neulasta shot, I have taken clarintin to help keep the bone aches at bay.
Prepare for your hair to go crazy. Some of us got wigs, use scraves, caps, etc. When I first started this whole process, it seemed like time stood still. Now that I have a couple of chemo's behind me, things feel like they are moving along.
These boards are a great support - we all have a similar story, but each story is also unique. Take care of yourself and also let others help you.
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Keke713 I am sure depending what chemo you are doing your side effects may be different. I had a port put in and it was a bit more of a procedure then I thought it was going to be. I was pretty sore for awhile. I wouldn't say I dont know its there because I can feel it everyday. For some they cant. I will say it does make things very easy. You cant even feel them put the needle in it. I had to go in the hospital after my first chemo as I got an infection and it was so nice to not have an IV in my wrist for all that time. The chemo itself is easy. You just sit there and watch TV while they change the bags from time to time. I feel great when I go home and fine the next day. By day three I am starting to feel the effects and day four I am sick. For me it is like having the flu really bad. Day 4,5 & 6 pretty much BITE but after that it starts to get better. It takes about a week for me to regain energy. Even after that I still cant go out shopping for a day or anything but I can do some laundry and make dinner ect.... I had my bar set pretty high thinking I would just take a day or two off work after the chemo and go back to work. I hear many do this. With the hard chemo( as my oncologist calls it) that did not happen. I wont be working until my treatments are finished. There is no way I could. Other side effects I have had is thrush in the mouth, and also taste buds seem to be shot for about the first week after chemo, then mine come back. I just look at it this way after Friday I will be halfway done, so Friday cant get here soon enough even though I know I will be sick I just want time to move fast. As for the hair I ordered 2 wigs and one halo piece. I wanted to be prepared. I really didn't know how I would feel until the hair was gone. Personally I just wear hats. I do wear the wig to church but I guess I just think I have nothing to hide I have cancer so I just pop on my hat and go. I didn't shave my head but just kept cutting and cutting it shorter. Its good you are recovering from your surgery so fast/ I thought that was pretty bad. I wont ever get used to the TE as I think they are so painful everyday. June cant get here soon enough. Like I said everyone is different but try and stay positive. It is hard to do when you feel icky and want your life back but keep saying to yourself this is not forever it is only temporary!!!
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Good afternoon ladies! Finally got five minutes to check in.
Have my next AC cycle tomorrow. Hope it goes a bit smoother. The first cycle wasn't too bad. I had unreal nausea the first night, some mild headaches and felt like I had the flu. Felt tired, but I'm usually chasing after a wee one all day so didn't feel much different. Hazel is 7 months now and she's crawling and pulling herself up onto things, oh boy haha. Such a chatterbox too!!! I guess the part that's reall bothering me is the hair. Not much left now. I had a total meltdown the other day... I just stared at myself and bawled. I feel better today, I just gotta get over it, accept it for what it is. Sometimes I just feel sad, I just cant shake it. It's like there's a little black rain cloud following me around and I'm Eeyore.
I had to get my drivers license renewed. Of course I couldn't style my wig for the picture and it looks awful. I can work magic into anyone's hair but I can't even make a wig look half decent. I hate it. My birthday is in a few days, so I may just end up buying myself a new wig. Right now I just wear a lot of toques and am glad for all the rain.
I still can't let anyone see my baldness, not even Chris. Heck, he still hasn't seen my foob! I haven't even been close to undressed around him since just before the surgery. I feel like I'm guarding myself, I'm so uneasy with the way I look and now I'm afraid it's going to effect my relationship negatively. Has anyone had intimacy issues?
I'm so glad for these boards. Reading up on everything makes me feels better, and it's nice to read how you ladies are doing.
Happy St. Patrick's Day!!! -
Also, I get asked a lot, so anyone interested in getting tattooed after treatment is all said and done, the following is a neat site to check out. Hopefully it works.
http://pinterest.com/personalink/
Usually you want to wait at least 6 months to tattoo over scars. You want to feel 100% better before getting tattooed after treatment. As far as getting tattooed on the side of lymph node removal, there's an 10 year 'rule'. Not so much a rule, but more of an advisement. Everyone is different.
Hope that helps.
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Hi Keke713, sorry you have to be here but you'll find some great help and support from these ladies. You're on a different chemo regimen than I am and even if it were the same, everybody reacts differently. My port was placed at the time of my surgery so I really didn't even notice recovering from that part of it. I really don't notice it anymore unless one of my kids pushes against it.
I feel I've been very fortunate also with the chemo side effects. It's not a walk in the park, but I had psyched myself up for a lot worse. I had my third (of six) treatments Friday. My experience has been that I feel pretty much OK days 1-3. I get more tired and "off" feeling day 4 and day 5 has been ike getting hit by a truck. Flu like is a good way to describe it. Just achy, weird stomach and beyond tired. But then I feel better each day after that. The second and third weeks, I really feel pretty much like myself.
I've had bone pain for up to a week with the neulasta shot. And then there are just several random symptoms. Everybody is different on these but for me, it's been dry mouth, weird tongue (kind of like it's burned or scraped), runny nose, appetite changes and just the loss of taste for certain things.
The hair loss was not so traumatic for me. I know it's temporary. I usually don't wear anything around the house when it's just my family. If somebody comes over, I throw a hat on. I can wear my wig for a couple hours at a time and do usually when I go out. But to work out and drive the kids around, I'll just as often just wear a hat. I'm with Tangles, I'm not trying to hide anything.
Advice I can give is to hydrate as much as possible before and after chemo treatments, rest when you're tired, use the numbing cream on your port before getting infusions, eat something even if you don't have the appetite and try to maintain some level of activity if you were active before. I am no where near my pre-surgery activity level, but doing some sort of exercise a couple times a week really makes me feel better and gives me energy.
I hope you have as easy a time of it as possible and definitely keep looking to these groups for support and help.
Good luck!
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Mirmirpanda: I had a lumpectomy and am not even going to try to relate to all that you have had to go through but I can relate to the hair loss. It has been devastating, everyone says, it will grow back I can't get passed what it looks like right now. I went to bed with a toboggan on and woke up with it off and hated that my husband saw me. It is hard to feel sexy, with scars on my boobs, a giant port raised up under the skin and sore and very little almost no hair. Not to mention feeling like crap from the chemo. I'm 41 so supposedly in my "prime" but not feeling it right now and it is sad. I'm guessing we will get passed it when we are used to the new normal and some of the lost self esteem returns but I for one do understand the difficulty with being intimate right now. Luckily my husband has been very understanding and am very grateful to have him. I think it's more of an issue for me than it is for him.
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I can relate to the black cloud, some-days I feel like there is one following me. I cry and cry and feel so hopeless. Other days like today I feel Ok and just keep thinking temporary temporary....... Im sure because I am 2 wks post chemo that helps. I will probably be a teary after my next chemo session again.
Im with you Lw122713 I think the intimacy bothers me more then my hubby. I have had some issue with vaginal dryness, not sure if its the chemo in general or the chemo throwing me into menopause but it is not a fun side effect. Thank god for a loving and understanding hubby!
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Keke
I'm on tc x4 and I'm going in for #3 on Thursday. I was terrified to have chemo, i was depressed and so upset. I spent alot of time in my own head. Once i did my first chemo I felt good that I can do it. I felt really achey for about two days, by Monday after chemo I'm out shopping. My side effects are weird feeling when i swallow that lasts for three days. Things don't taste that great for a week. This week I had watery eyes that are more annoying than anything. This time i felt more fatigue but I'm still cleaning and taking care on my kids.
The hardest part for me was losing my hair, it was worse then finding out I had cancer. Once i got it buzzed OFF i was relieved it i grieved my hair and it was coming out in clumps for days. Some people don't respond this way but it was bad for me to lose my hair.
I didn't get a port but I'm having 4 treatments. I didn't want one.
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with all the other issues, I am finding I couldn't even walk around the whole mall yesterday - I get part way through it and find I am exhasted and don't have the energy to continue.. today we were walkin through Target and it was an effort for me to walk around... this is really discouraging.. my second treatment was 11 days ago but it seems to have sapped my energy. Is anyone else having this problem?
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I hit a bit of a wall in the mid 2nd week. It's described as the 'nadir' point, days 10-14. Totally normal. I never left the house by myself just in case I totally ran out of steam.
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IamNancy & Gina- i have noticed alot more fatigue since last Wednesday. I thought it was maybe because of alot of general things including the time change. Now I'm curious if my hemoglobin is a little low, guess I'll find out tomorrow. TC #3 on Wednesday- means half way done!!!!!
Mirmirpanda & others- if you haven't already gotten a wig or would like another go to www.crickettsanswerforcancer.org. I requested & got a very nice wig from their organization for FREE! You just print out a request form & send it to them. Another resource is the American Cancer Society.
The little gray cloud finds me sometimes too. I think that with everything we deal with, it's inevitable. Not to mention you add in the steroids & chemopause-it's a wonder we all don't end up in the looney bin! I surely think our Husbands deserve alot more credit than we ever thought to give them credit for-mine has been a real trooper too even though I haven't been! -
LisaMM - you are right about the husbands - mine has been wonderful - nothing is too much for him.. I sure hope he knows how much I appreciate him - can't imagine going through this without him.
A word about wigs - I bought 2 - first one was cute but just kept riding up in back and I just didn't like it..never having worn a wig before, I thought they all were the same and I'd never get use to them.. but working in an office, I had to try.. so I bought another one, different brand and I'll tell you its comfy and I forget I even have it on.. amazing.. so make sure you try a few brands on if you can..move your head all around and see how well it stays in place.
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Tangles: sorry I miss-typed. My permanent will be silicone as well. Just not sure which implant it will be. I think if you try to do less saline injections, you will find it will help alot. It did me. I am sorry you are having a hard time with it. Hang in there!
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IamNancy I'm really tired this time around. Its getting a little better today (day 5) but I didn't expect this. Since this is the first time I've had the neulasta I'm pretty sure it has something to do with it? My knees are so weak they tremble.
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Melody - I do think the neulasta takes alot of your energy.. but I think the chemo just builds up and takes energy also.. I didn't expect it to last this long though..
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My MO said that the fatigue would be worse on round 2 and for me it was. I'm guessing round 3 will also be worse for the fatigue. The upside is that the other SE's were less.
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Hi ladies--
Well, there's just no getting around that chemo sucks. Just had round three of A and C, plus Neulasta shot, and it seems to start the downward drag a little earlier each time. The couch is my friend!
I have learned to just go bald around the house and to wrap a pretty effective scarf around my noggin outside the house. I appreciate the honesty of you all in sharing that this is hard. Accepting it, bearing it, improving, and then voluntarily going back for more.
We will make it through. I just wanted to say thanks to all of you, chemo sisters. -
Hello ladies! Fot those of you sharing trips to the bar this week with me-good luck! This will be #3 for me, which I'm a little excited about because it's my half way! Hopefully those of you who went last week are stating to feel a little better this week.
TMM60, IamNancy, & Melody- I am also feeling very fatigued. It went into overdrive last Wednesday. I'm a little afraid of what it's gonna be like after this Wednesday! I don't think it helped any that I had to work my on-call time in addition to my scheduled hours on 2 of the last 3 days.....it has kicked my butt!
Going to Look Good, Feel Better tomorrow.......So I can get my tx the day after & feel crappy again!
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Today was my first full day of wearing a wig. I worked from home last week while my hair fell out and I had a mental meltdown, and then only worked 1/2 days in Thursday & Friday, the day of chemo and the day after. I'm going to have to get used to it. My scalp is still so tender so it hurt and then a few times wanted to just throw it off and scream. I went to the bathroom and soo wanted to just take it off. I'm just not used to having something on my head. I can't imagine if it was hot out too. I get claustrophobic so this could be a hurdle. I work in the corporate world as an accounting manager so I can't show up in a ball cap or a bandanna though that would feel so much better. I have to say it though its me whining again...I REALLY miss my hair.
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I miss my hair too! My wig itches so bad I feel like I have fleas, I've gotten over the awkwardness of going bald around the house. Feeling a little better today but seriously hoping my levels come back so high I dont have to have the neulasta shot next time, all the joints in my lower body ache and the slightest bit of exertion wipes me out. TMM make sure you let us know how you feel after #3, I'm very curious if you get more fatigue as the treatments go on. I'm 2/4 now so pretty excited I'm about 5 weeks to my last treatment!
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What is remaining of my stubble is itchy too! I really am sick of that and wish it would just fall out and be done with it! I gave up on the wig, it's just too uncomfortable. But then again, I have been working at home. If I had to go in to the office, I guess I would wear the wig. When I go to the grocery or out and about, I just wear a head cover with some dangly earrings. I have a gotten a few looks, but I really don't care if it screams cancer patient. I'm tired of being a hermit, although I'm really being careful about where I go right now since I'm in the nadir.
LisaMM- Let us know about the fatigue factor with number 3. I'm wondering how cumulative that SE is.
I'm going to catch a Look Good Feel Better on April 9. Sounds like a really nice thing and I'm going to take advantage of it. The previous ones fell on chemo week for me when I wasn't feeling great.
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The Claritin made a huge difference for me. For the first shot, I hadn't heard about the claritin and the shot kicked my butt. My bones felt like they were breaking and I was having to take hydrocodone. Nothing but ibuprofen this time. There is still some pain but its much more tolerable.
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Geez, I'm glad I haven't needed Neulasta (knock wood). All my Taxotere aches and pains have been relieved with Tylenol. The Taxotere tingle in hand and feet is back on on week 2 post chemo same as last time. Hopefully, it will be gone in time for treatment number 3.
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TMM60 - I am not sure the SE are less but they are different than the first time and yes, not as bad.
Paminarkansas - I go around the house bald too - I do put a knitted cap on sometimes because my head gets cold.
LisaMM - I just wish I had more energy - its exhasting.
LW122713 and Melody46 - I really understand the wig problems - I was so frustrated the first day I wore one to work - I also work in an office so I knew I'd have to wear the wig.. I wanted to rip it off in the ladies room a few times.. Now after a week and a second more comfy wig, I can get through the whole day with my wig and I feel like I will get through this bald stage!
and so will you both.
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LisaMM - I will be right with you on Wednesday for chemo #3. I also had a real problem with the fatigue from chemo #2. Just in the past 2 or 3 days, have I felt somewhat normal. My tastebuds seem to be halfway normal.
I am already scheduled next Monday for fluids. For the past 2 chemo's I have found myself at the ER - dehydrated and exhaustive - so for this round, I am being proactive. My pattern seems to be I hit rock bottom by Monday.
I have also discovered, a wonderful gem on these message boards. If you go to the message board for women that started Chemo December 2012. Some of them are beginning to finish up their chemo treatments and they are overjoyed. I liked reading about their excitement because I thought that will be all of us in about 2 months. It gave me lots of hope, I can do this.....
Everybody have a great week with minimal SE's Spring is Coming!!!
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Kkmom-i usually feel pretty crappy(achy) on Friday, Sat, & Sun. Then Mon. I slmost feel lije a new person. At least it was like that for the first 2 tx.
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Round three in a few hours ( I need to get to sleep!). But wanted to say hi and give hugs.
Round two was much easier for me - been so busy being Mom that I haven't been online much.
One thought about the wigs - I have one full wig that is rather uncomfortable (granted, it was a free one from ACS, and happened to be a very inexpensive one - the office here in NOVA has some lovely ones - just not many to pick from in my color the day I was there). BUT, some friends got me a gift certificate to headcovers.com and I ordered a headband wig. The styles for these are all short (shoulder or chin length) but if that's a look that will work for you- I highly recommend them. It is sooooo comfortable, super easy to style and accessorize. Since most of what touches your head is the knit headband it doesn't itch me - and isn't as hot as a regular wig. Also - I've used scarves and some cute headbands to accessorize it and have gotten tons of compliments. For less than $150, it's a great buy! Definitely my favorite thing to wear right now!
One more question - for those of you doing Herceptin - any hot flashes? Had some warm moments this afternoon (after my visit with the MO of course). Just trying to figure out if they're starting . . .
Prayers and hugs to you all (especially volleymom - let us know how you're doing).
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