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  • LouBar
    LouBar Member Posts: 84
    edited February 2013

    halfcan - great to hear from you and fantastic rads are going well.  I have 2 under my belt and 28 to go..uugghh! Was supposed to be only 25 but now 5 boosts.  My margins weren't great from mastectomy (1cm clearance) hence the max. rads.  

    toots - thanks for sharing about the pool and rads, never thought of that.  also the message from your friend was lovely

    35-smiling - so sorry you are in pain and struggling with how this is impacting your future regarding children.  Your Oncologist should be able to refer you to a fertility specialist and between the two of them they should help you and your husband to assess options re. treatment and children and other options available to you.  love to you xx 

  • Marlene18
    Marlene18 Member Posts: 91
    edited March 2013

    Hi Ladies,

    Yes, I've been ingesting the neuropathy-fighting glutamine, as well as L-carnitine and a vitamin b-complex. I'm not on weekly taxol (my MO suggested that the weekly regime actually resulted in greater side effects than tri-weekly?) so I'm not sure how many days I should take it for. So far, I have just a bit of numbness in the tips of a couple fingers and on the soles of my feet. I'm almost 2 weeks past tx #1 so my scalp is getting that now sadly-familiar itchy feeling, telling me my buzz-cut is going to be giving way soon to chemo-patient bald once again.. :( Oh well, it's only for a few more months and at least spring is coming so my ears won't be as cold!

    Loubar - sorry to hear your rads got extended. Here's hoping it'll be over before you know it! Halfcan, you are so close to done - yay!

    Chloe's doing well still. She's just over six weeks old and occasionally having decent nights. :) She's really developed her sight in the past few weeks and you can see her just taking the world in. She smiles and laughs in her sleep but not at us yet. She might be too frustrated with her inept parents still, since we're so slow to figure out when she's hungry or needs a diaper change! We'll get there. :)

    I hope you are all feeling okay.

  • alcb70
    alcb70 Member Posts: 166
    edited March 2013

    35-smiling- I don't envy your decision.  It must be very difficult.  I agree with PatinMN. Your MO and a good fertility specialist should give you all the in's and out's of conceiving during all this.  Then it's up to you and your husband to decide what to do....but you'll know all the facts.  Best of luck to you.

    Marlene- Little Chloe looks so cute! I love the matching hair-do's! I'm glad she's doing well, but don't be too worried about being inept.  They certainly do not come with instruction manuals, and you should save your feelings of inadequacy for her teenage years! I'm the mother of 2 girls 23 & 19.....there will be plenty of time to scratch your head wondering what she needs from about 12 to 20. :)

    Well....just when I thought my chemo journey was over.  I saw my MO today and he reviewed my path report from surgery. Even though my tumor shrunk (~3cm), it didn't look like it should after chemo (swiss cheese).  The tumor board reviewed my case and they were split 50/50 as to whether I needed more/different chemo. I also found out from newer testing that I am actually estrogen negative. So, chemo & herceptin is all I have to fight this.  I am scheduled for 2 rounds of dose dense Adriamycin starting next week.  It would have been 4 rounds, but he thinks 2 should be ok & not tax my system too much. Just when my hair was really starting to come in, and I am almost back to feeling myself (besides pain from post op fills), I get to do it all again. Definitely shorter in duration, but I didn't want to feel that way another day. :( So depressing and disheartening. I just wanted all that to be over.

  • 301724
    301724 Member Posts: 478
    edited March 2013

    Alcb - So sorry to hear the news that you'll be having more chemo but glad that option is there for you. You'll know you've done everything there is to do and that feeling is worth a lot. Will be in your pocket as you go for chemo again next week.

  • LouBar
    LouBar Member Posts: 84
    edited March 2013

    Marlene - love the pic of you and Chloe!

    alcb70 - sorry about your news, how disheartening.  Also how scary that they estrogen wrong - this could have led to a totally inappropriate treatment for you.  I'm looking on the bright side that at least they have it all figured out and a couple more to go and chemo will be over for you....I'll be in your pocket too :)

  • 35_smiling
    35_smiling Member Posts: 90
    edited March 2013

    Well ladies chemo is coming to an end for me tomorrow March 6th & 13th. I am super excited.  12 rounds of Taxol/Herceptin are closing in nicely.  I also notice a few strands of hair is growing back on my head too and fast! I had dark brown thick hair but so far I only see only gray hair growing back omg… my cousin is calling my head a nick name “Peaches” as it describes the little fuzz on the skin lol she is too funny.  Is it true that your hair after chemo doesn’t grow back the same? What should I really expect? 

    I hope everyone have a great weekend and day today!!

    PatinMN ~ thanks for the suggestion. My husband picked me up some vit.B6 on Friday gone but we couldn’t find any glutamine 30mg in Bermuda so I tried to look online they only have 300mg and there is so much brands which one you have? What’s the name on the bottle so I can try to get the same kind?

    LouBar ~ thanks for your advice. I will have a chat shortly with my Oncologist. I just want to make sure I do some research on my own first and write down some direct questions.  I still have time for more research. I still have to have surgery and radiation to go.

    Marlene18 ~ so nice princess Chole’ is taking in the world. The both of you look so cute. Before you know it she will be smiling at her parents and be super excited when they get the grips on feeding and diaper changing time ha ha ha

    alcb70 ~ thanks for the advice. I am so sorry your chemo has been extended for two more rounds. I am sure it will be over quickly.  I am estrogen positive…still a bit confused what that all means but I am still trying to look into these things. My brain seems to be behind the eight ball lately.  On the bright side you have two more rounds as I have two more to go as well; tomorrow March 6 & 13th.  Good luck to the both of us for coming to an end real soon.

  • PatinMN
    PatinMN Member Posts: 920
    edited March 2013

    35 smiling - congratulations on finishing up your chemo (almost)!  As for the glutamine, you need to get the powder (not capsules), because you need to take such a large amount each day.  The recommended dose is 30 grams (not mg) per day.  I got mine at GNC but I finished the whole tub and threw it away, so I don't remember what brand it was.  I just looked online at amazon.com and they have a huge variety of options.  I don't know how you would choose from all those options. Frown  My chemo nurses gave me some sample packets of GlutaSolve, which is glutamine powder made by Nestle Nutrition.  The packets are 15 grams each, so very convenient - just use two packets per day (mixed in a liquid of your choice) to get your 30 grams.  When I looked into buying the packets, the price was pretty high, which is why I went with the tub of powder I got from GNC.  Assuming you don't have GNC in Bermuda you might try asking your pharmacist about where to get the glutamine powder. 

  • 35_smiling
    35_smiling Member Posts: 90
    edited March 2013

    PatinMN ~ thanks i will ask the nurse tomorrow when i go for my treatgment.

  • Toots
    Toots Member Posts: 104
    edited March 2013

    Started Anastrole (hormone therapy) on Monday still getting SEs from last Taxotare, muscles in legs ache feeling like lead weights and still an occasional whistle in one ear as well as aching nails particularly the big toes.......fighting through it, going swimming, aquaerobics class this morning and reiki session booked for this afternoon, makes me feel so relaxed...............when I started my taxotare hair on head started growing back, but lost the eyebrows and eyelashes.....hair on head growing rapidly but still a little patchy............

    Have been using a B6 Complex since I first started chemo

    35-smiling - don't think anyone knows what to expect with hair everyone tells me it grows back differently from what it was.  If you decide to produce a baby after this lot I wish you all the luck in the world x

    Marlene - bigs hugs for you and Chloe x

    alcb 70 - so sorry to hear about chemo being extended will be thinking of you for the next session x

    Hugs to all and wishes for lots of silver linings xxx

  • Poke
    Poke Member Posts: 225
    edited March 2013

    Andrea - UGH. You must be so frustrated. How did they get your hormone receptor status incorrect the first time? PM me if you want / need to chat, I don't check in here as often anymore. 

    Hi ladies ... I am sorry to be absent lately, my doctor recommended that I "take a break" from reading, etc. about breast cancer. I feel like I alienate myself sometimes always reading about worrying. I popped in to check on you all. Tamoxifen seems to be going ok, no noticable effects. Still having hot flashes, don't know if that's leftover from chemo or new from the tamoxifen. My exchange surgery is supposed to be scheduled tomorrow and will either be 4/9 or 4/30 (depending on our final size decision, and I am going to put up a fight if he wants to expand me anymore because my last fill was the first ever to give me any pain and I'm still sore 5 days later!) 

    LOVE TO YOU ALL!!!!

  • Caitgrace
    Caitgrace Member Posts: 48
    edited March 2013

    Hey ladies I've been lurking but not posting. Doing ok and had follow up mammo that's looked good, and follow up to radiation which was fine. Had my port out and was fine until now suffering from rash all over chest and neck from what I assume is the chloroprep (there's alot of people reacting to it). I guess didn't react when port was placed as had the steroids same day due to start of chemo. Hopefully it will subside. I'll get some Benadryl while out today and take it .



    Tamoxifen continues to leave my temperature control all over the place but was reminded by radiation onco that studies show women with more flashes and night sweats have less recurrence of cancer so I should be happy I'm on fire 100 times a day!



    I'm still dancing though I miss some due to a cold I had and now the port removal healing. I've been a bit out of it, mild depression? Post treatment blues? I want to lay about and eat... But push myself to work and be normal and exercise. Only have lost 2 lbs so discouraged there but hopefully as winter goes ill be out and moving more.



    This rash is SO FUCKING ITCHY. Funny after all you go through what pushes you over the edge!



    As always I hold you all deep in my heart to keep you safe from pain and sickness, when I dance I dance for healing and to release pain and suffering from all women and men going through the fight; dance to celebrate triumph and find peace in exhaustion and community and sweat.

  • Poke
    Poke Member Posts: 225
    edited March 2013

    Oh my goodness, I hope you are right about the hot flashes, that was the best news I've heard in a long time!!! I hope your rash gets better soon!!!

  • Jennie93
    Jennie93 Member Posts: 1,018
    edited March 2013

    cait, you are not supposed to take Benadryl if you are on tamoxifen.   :-(

  • 35_smiling
    35_smiling Member Posts: 90
    edited March 2013

    Jennie93 ~ really? why not?Surprised

  • Caitgrace
    Caitgrace Member Posts: 48
    edited March 2013

    Huh. I was just thinking ... Didn't I read somewhere that I can't take this (Benadryl) while on tamoxifen? And look sure enough it inhibits the effect. Guess ill just keep using the cream, but I'll need to check and make sure it doesn't have the same stuff in it. I hate that this shit always happens on the weekend when my onco people are out

  • Jennie93
    Jennie93 Member Posts: 1,018
    edited March 2013

    You can use cortisone cream, it probably works better anyway.   :-)

    I came across a list of drugs that interfere with Tamoxifen not long ago and was surprised to see Benadryl on the list.  It's very common in many OTC meds not only as an antihistamine but also as a mild sleep aid.  Something to watch out for.  Choose a different antihistamine.  Several common antidepressants were on the list too, FYI, if anyone is taking one of those.  I'll try to find that link again.

    I have my Tamoxifen prescription, but neither the MO nor the RO was clear on whether I'm supposed to wait to start taking it until after rads are done.  What were you all told about that?

  • Caitgrace
    Caitgrace Member Posts: 48
    edited March 2013

    This is what I found last night when I was checking my memory...



    http://www.pharmacytimes.com/publications/issue/2009/2009-03/2009-03-10041



    Since I had my rads before chemo not sure about the tamoxifen and radiation concurrently or not.



    Cream helps with the itches but doesn't seem to be effecting it otherwise.

  • LouBar
    LouBar Member Posts: 84
    edited March 2013

    Well I'm 1/3 done radiation - 10 of 30 completed today and I had my follow-up with my MO and got my prescription for tamoxifan.  I know this is really superficial but I'm worried about the weight gain on tamoxifan, been reading that some women are gaining up wards of 40 lbs? Caitgrace / Po_ke - did your Docs say anything about this? How do you find it so far apart from the hot flashes which I'm still having PFC.  Also, my MO brought up putting me on Zolodex to stop the estrogen production in ovaries....I know I should be feeling grateful that there is medicine out there to prevent a reoccurence, but it just seems never ending and each "solution" has with it more problems.  Anyone else considering Zolodex? Feeling generally a bit bummed that although I feel near the end of this journey, the reality is it's a long way off :( 

  • schoolmom
    schoolmom Member Posts: 458
    edited March 2013

    I have been out with radiation and wanted to see how everyone is doing.  I have 4 more rads to go and then a decision about hormone therapy.  I am past menopause and have osteopenia so concerned about choices at my age.

    Hope everyone is doing well.

  • Caitgrace
    Caitgrace Member Posts: 48
    edited March 2013

    LouBar they mentioned nothing about this though I did read in the forums here some get told you lose weight and some get told you gain. I'm still trying to shed my chemo weight, and though I'm moving in the right direction it's only 2 lbs down.



    For me there continues to be fuzzy headed ness and minor short turn memory issues (I keep leaving the stove on, etc.). I get hot flashes regularly mostly disturbing my sleep. Just started taking black cohosh which is supposed to help. I was super achy the first 30 days or so on tamoxifen but it seems to have subsided considerably. Even that was just like having frozen joints-once up and moving ok, but getting moving from a standstill the achy part. The more I exercise the better I feel.



    Rash is subsiding. My onco nurse checked with oncologist and he said Benadryl ok for ths very short time. But I can only take at night as it knocks me out.

  • 301724
    301724 Member Posts: 478
    edited March 2013

    Hi Schoolmom - according to the chart my MO showed me, you get a huge risk reduction from hormone therapy, whether you are past menopause or not. Ask to see the numbers so that you can make a thoughtful decision.

    Caitgrace - did you check with your MO about black cohosh? When I asked my MO, she said not a good idea. As annoying as the hot flashes are, they're an indication that the hormone therapy is working. Black cohosh may have estrogenic activity, which is why it may help hot flashes but in that instance, it's working against your hormone therapy.

  • Poke
    Poke Member Posts: 225
    edited March 2013

    Hello ladies, just wanted to stop and say hi. I am two weeks on tamoxifen and feeling ok. Still having hot flashes, might be leftover from chemo, but now I am getting night sweats about once per week (three times since I started) so that is super annoying and uncomfortable. I haven't had joint issues so that is a blessing. I am on the scale every day and minding what I eat because I don't want to gain weight from it. It's hard and I miss not having to worry about so many things. I have no sign of hair anywhere still and I am just really getting anxious that I will be one of those people who doesn't get her hair back (like 5%?!) ... My exchange surgery is 4/6 and I CAN'T WAIT!!! Love to all, especially those continuing chemo and radiation. xoxo

  • halfcan
    halfcan Member Posts: 253
    edited March 2013

    Good morning!  I always read all your posts through notifications on my phone and keep up with your news.  I just don't seem to post so often lately.  Maybe because things are just moving along without too many issues right now.   Finished rads a week ago today.  They went well although I just kept getting redder everyday after.  Now skin is itchy and still red but getting snake like.  :-)   No broken skin or blisters so I'm not complaining!  Friday I get my port removal surgery and looking forward to having that annoying thing out.  Just not excited about the surgery and activity setback.   I have been getting some treadmill and stationary bike exercise lately to try to get the achy large muscle chemo SE relieved a little.  Seems to be helping. :-)   I have noticed stubble on my head although not on the crown.  I see the MO beginning of April for first checkup after end of treatment and to get a script for an estrogen blocker.   Hang in there ladies ... we are all getting through the various stages of this.  Better days are ahead!!!! :-)

  • schoolmom
    schoolmom Member Posts: 458
    edited March 2013

    Well, the rads machine broke down today when I was in it.  It is scheduled for maintenance Monday so it has been having issues.  I got through 3 1/2 of my ZAPS so the doctor said to check it off as a session....3 more to go.  Battling appetite issues still even 8 weeks after chemo.  Lost about 12 pounds since beginning of Nov and first chemo.....only weigh 2 pounds more than when I graduated high school in 1970!  I checked my BMI and ideally I am 2 pounds away where I should be so I guess it is all good if I can maintain it and stay healthy.  Take care all.

  • Caitgrace
    Caitgrace Member Posts: 48
    edited March 2013

    Well it was my onco nurse that said I could try the black cohosh ... I hate that there's so many contradictions in the reading and medical world. I guess I'll talk to her more about it. There's no point in taking the tamoxifen if its not helping; as much as I hate the hot flashes ... I'll suffer to get the benefits of the tamoxifen.



    It's only this week 2.5 months after my last chemo that I have enough hair coverage that it looks like a regular head of hair only super short; rather than chemo hair/patchy fuzz. It's coming in darker... That's for sure.

  • karen3231950
    karen3231950 Member Posts: 25
    edited March 2013

    Congratulations to all the Oct 2012 chemo graduates and those just behind them. Through love, prayers, and this board, we made it.  I finished chemo 3/13 and start radiation sometime in late April.

    To halfcan-A friend of mine sent me Reconstructive Creme for Chemo, Radiation, burns, dryness and bed sores.  I use it for the facial flush I get the day after chemo from the steriod.  I hope it will come in handy when I start radiation.  www.hymed.net

    Also, can you please tell me which board the Oct 2012 chemo ladies who have started radiation are posting on; I can't find that.  Best of luck with your port surgery and exercise.  I am working on losing the 20 pounds I gained.  Which estrogen blocker have you decided on?

  • halfcan
    halfcan Member Posts: 253
    edited March 2013

    Hi Karen, I see my MO on April 2 to discuss type of estrogen blockers so don't have an answer for that yet.   As far as where did the girls go ... I went to this rad forum and I know there are some others there. 

     http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/70/topic/796394?page=43#top

    Hopefully this link will work for you.  It is a 2012 Winter Rads group but new women are on there all the time.  Not sure if there is a newer group or not.

  • 301724
    301724 Member Posts: 478
    edited March 2013

    Hi Karen,

    No rads for me (BMX) but I'm on Aromasin. Started 6 weeks ago. Having the occasional hot flash but that's it. I told my MO I don't plan to have any SEs from it:-)

  • Lou4of7
    Lou4of7 Member Posts: 36
    edited March 2013

    Just dropping in...finished my 8 rounds of chemo on the 26th of Feb. 13. Last 4 cycles were Taxotere.

    Now I have constant tearing (watery eyes...dripping constantly). Does anyone know when this will stop?

    Also have itchy eyelids... Should I see an eye specialist?

    Also  have a lot of large muscle pain (i.e. thighs & upper arms) especially after a rest period..

    Does anyone know or has heard...when does this subside?

    What should ...or can I do??

  • halfcan
    halfcan Member Posts: 253
    edited March 2013

    Lou4of7 - you are having the same annoying SE's I do. I am 8 weeks PFC and it is better than it was. My eyes still water and it runs down my cheeks ... Lack of lashes doesn't help. The large muscles are tough to deal with. I was super miserable. I have been forcing myself to walk on the treadmill or outside even if it was just for a few minutes. It has become much easier now and I get on the trail with friends and can go about 4 kilometers .... But ..avoid uphill. I can't do it still. Even now when I get up from bed or couch I feel that familiar ache and weakness. Think it just takes time. Best wishes, hugs.

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