DIEP 2013
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Moviemaniac, thank you for putting a smile on my face as I read through your post! I couldn't help but laugh when you said you wore a hideous pink velour track suit. What a hoot. I also have an amazing network of friends and we love getting together for whatever reason so I think I'll have to throw myself a similar party. You might as well make the best of it. Thank you for giving me a ton of great ideas. Ann
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I just wanted to check in and give an update I am 4 weeks and 2 days post diep and went back to work yesterday with no issues. I am a director in a school district so I do not have a physical job. I am able to wear my work clothes and even went out after work and wore jeans! I am wearing a compression garment but I have not had bloating issues except those associated with my cycle
I can sleep on both sides my diep breast is on the left. I also have had no issues with my incisions and my foob is soft. I wish all of you coming up a successful surgery and smooth recovery...not regretting this for a minute
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Marty-I love the detergent pods idea! And please don't think I am advocating for a big bash as the only way to do this.....I think ANY and all ways we as women with cancer can connect with other women, the stronger we become. There is strength in numbers, and to know that we have other women who have our backs is priceless! Hope you have a wonderful day. :-). Namaste and God Bless...... Jackie
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Jackie, I agree and it IS priceless. When I had my UMX last Dec., my friends were such a blessing. They got together prior to my surgery and planned a month long calendar of 'meals on wheels" for my DH and myself. It was wonderful. I would love to do something nice (and fun) in return for their kindness. Ann
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Welcome jamforme27, I am 10 weeks post double Diep and just want to let those who are awaiting surgery know that things return to normal pretty quickly after surgery. I spent this week looking at colleges and universities with my husband and daughter. We suffered thru cold, snow, wind, sleet and rain and walked for miles on college tours. I was up and down hundreds of stairs and I am proud of myself that I was able to keep up with them and actually felt great doing it. jamforme27 I am a fellow long islander so if you want to private message me I would be more than happy to talk to you. We will be keeping you in our thoughts and prayers.
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Gotoell - it sounds like you are doing great! Thanks for the update. I'm off work another 2 weeks, but think I might be ready soon. I'm getting a bit bored.
I did go out to my friends 40th last night and had a great time. I even managed to make it to midnight!! -
Moviemaniac - love the party and I am definitely ordering the t-shirt! What a wonderful idea.
Thanks for the support guys, I am having a good day today. My hubby and I went out to breakfast.
What is this about suture tape? Would it help? I still have some scabbed areas I would like to see heal completely that are a little red. -
PinkHeart
Thanks for note back - I don't think my PS can do SGAP - He is the ONLY one in my area that can even do DIEP - going to another city about 90 minutes away this week for 1 more consult..hope to just get clarification from a center that does more Flap procedures if it is even possible or I will have to abandoned the whole idea and go back to implants....was trying not to go that route...but as I told my husband today...none of this is what I would have chosen anyway...so just have to make the best of it and carry on.
Chrisitna
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heavenschild,
Question for you. So far I only have DCIS on pathology (but waiting with mastectomy to look at 2 other "highly suspicious" area found on MRI after my lumpectomy) but I though that DCIS has not spread but you have with mets on your diagnosis. Have I completly missed something?
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Hi, all! I came home from the hospital yesterday afternoon (so was there for a total of 3.5 days). The transition home has been easier than I expected. The couch with a wedge pillow and other pillows actually works better in some ways than the hospital bed did, esp. getting in & out. And I've been able to do the stairs just fine, albeit slowly. I use them as part of my walking path every couple of hours, too, because our old house doesn't offer much space to walk and it's been too icy & snowy to walk outside. I may venture out there tomorrow anyway - I need some fresh air and a walk that's not just circles in small rooms!
Pain has been manageable with Percocet; I just need to make sure I eat something with it.
My main issues right now are a drain site that hurts - it got jiggled too much as we tried to figure out where to place the ab binder thingie, I think - and how/whether to wear a bra and binder. Both invariably end up shifting and irritating the drain sites. I feel best when I wear neither, just a loose-fitting zip-up fleece jacket that has handy interior pockets that I use for the drains.
Does anyone know how necessary a binder and/or bra are at this point? My new girls are small enough that extra support doesn't feel necessary, and the ab binder doesn't seem to do much comfort-wise for me, except perhaps when I first get up from lying or sitting down. I'll ask my surgeon on Monday, but am interested what others might know (guidance from surgeons on this point seems to vary a lot).
Otherwise things are going well so far and I'm very grateful. I need to watch doing too much too soon. When I first stand, I feel stiff and tight, bit after a minutes of slow walking, I feel remarkably good. Until my back starts yowling, that is, from all the hunchback action.
Thanks again for all the support. I look forward to helping others more as I get lucid again! -
Seagan...glad to hear you're home, and from the sounds of it, doing well! Yeah, seems to be a lot of variation in the bra/binder theories. I'll be seeing my doc for a final pre-op appt this week, and it is on my list of questions to ask. I cannot imagine wearing either garment when the drains are still in!!! How did you find the ride home from the hospital? It'll be close to an hour in the car for me, I'm wondering if the seat belt is going to be an issue, and am thinking about maybe finding a small pillow to use as padding for the first little while.
Keep resting and walking....from all the veterans, that seems to be the ticket to success!
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So....more advice wanted. Some friends and I are planning a girl's getaway in early June....my surgery is booked for April 12. I really do understand that we all recover differently, but just wondering what the "veterans" think might be my activity level for some mild hiking by that time? I'm pretty fit going into this, but do have a weak back and shoulders if stressed. Also...anybody have experience with wearing a backpack after surgery? Not worried about the long-term, but wondering if for the first few months the pressure from the shoulder straps and hip belt might be ill-advised.
Keznick...hope you got those drains out like you wanted.
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Wow I had a lot to catch up on reading all the recent posts ! Sounds like everyone is doing well . I have been keeping my nerves at bay painting our basement and setting up a game room for my two boys down there so that they can have an area to be crazy and loud when I'm recovering after surgery. I'm not sure how much time they'll actually spend down there but it's worth a shot and a good distraction either way.
A dear friend of mine is throwing a party for me March 9th I'm sort of awkwardly looking forward to it. In the back of my mind Im acknowledging that I deserve it but still I don't really like being the center of attention. Either way it should be a lot of fun and Im really greatful that my friend is going to all this trouble for me. -
Nihahi-
I had a ss ns umx with immediate DIEP reconstruction. My surgeon cleared me to run 6 weeks post-op. He actually cleared me at 5 weeks to run, but at 6 weeks to wear a bra (no binder/no bra surgeon), so 6 weeks to run with my sports bra.
Ran 6.74 miles that first run. Started chemo that week and ran through chemo too.
Yes, everyone is different, but want to encourage you that activity is possible! Push yourself physically in these weeks leading up to your surgery. Go into it strong)
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Nihahi - activity is definitely possible, but I think I would avoid a backpack. You will be only 6 or so weeks out of surgery and the straps may tramautize the flaps in some way. That is what you want to avoid. Your blood supply is still healing as are your flaps. There is a lot of healing going on on the inside that you don't realize is happening. We went to DC at 8 weeks and walked a lot, a whole lot! But, I didn't carry a pack.
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Seagan... I wore a compression girdle and it was good in that it held the drains in place all day long. It was a stage I (had zippers on the side) and an open crotch. So I would shower, put on the girdle with pads around the drains (an ABD pad with a slit cut in it to surround the drain), zip up and leave it for 24 hours. You can bathroom through the whole. Plus the girdle gives added support. Many women like the support and have trouble giving it up even once the drains are gone. Plus, it prevents seromas and swelling.
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Seagan - congrats! My PA showed me how to wrap gauze around the drain site all the way around the drainage tube at the entry site and then tape it down. it really helps. Otherwise, you do feel like you have crabs in your pants! My PS didn't have me come home with a girdle, it might have helped.
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Nihahi, I am also a hiker. I realize my recovery has not been the ideal (with the abdominal infection), but my advice to you is to plan to hike, but have a back-up activity you can do in case you are unable to keep up. My usual hiking/walking pattern pre-surgery was 7-10 miles per day. I figure that even though I am actually 5, going on six weeks out, I am behind a few weeks due to the above-mentioned infection. I think age has to factor into it. I am 58, and in reasonably (ha ha) good health, and this has knocked me for a loop.....I am hopeful that I will be able to take a trip to Yosemite this fall. My usual destination is Glacier National Park in Montana.....but I cannot conceive of hiking those trails (with the possibility of bears around every corner :-p -I couldn't run fast enough to not be the last one in line!). So Yosemite it is....and it will be lovely. I hope it works out for you, as there is nothing as wonderful as being out in Nature-it just feeds my soul in a way that nothing else does. My long-term plan is to hike the PCT from the California/Oregon border to the Oregon/Washington border.....maybe next year. :-)
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dlthlm...yup, going into it as fit as I can. Have been doing as much intense walking (can't run at the moment - pain issues) and snowshoeing as often as possible. Also doing yoga.
Marty...always good advice, thanks. Great point about the "internal healing", as I know I tend to heal quickly "on the outside". I have been worried about the straps/flap issue and the gals I hike with would absolutely not leave me behind on my own. Might have to pass off the water bottles for the first few hikes, maybe I can fit some other stuff into a fanny pack. I've already warned them that the getaway might end up being lots of girl talk with a glass or two of some good wine and chocolate!
Movie....boy, you are right on target about what being outside in the mountains can do to "heal you". I've done some hiking in Glacier...gorgeous place. Have you ever crossed the border into Waterton Park. Lots of great hikes there too. Yup, not going to try knowingly "sharing the trails" with the bears this year, even if carrying bear spray. We tend to try to avoid trails that have known bear activity, and always hike in a tight group, but you never can be 100% sure, cause it is their backyard!
Years ago, hubby and I biked the Oregon coast from northern Cal to Astoria..Beautiful memories, great campgrounds.
Bdavis...do you think maybe wearing compression from the start might help to get rid of the drains a bit quicker. These drains are my biggest nightmare. The ones I had after my mastectomy years ago were incredibly uncomfortable, and I didn't have to go home with them.
Thanks for your thoughts and advice.
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Seagan - Wow - I've been following your progress. Sounds like you're doing great. You mentioned that your breasts were 'small but cute'. (Yay!). Are they smaller than before? I was under the impression that it takes a few weeks before they take shape - so I'm really glad to know that they're looking good.
Nihahi - I love the 'sisters not twins' thing too. My PS i s so calm that he makes all this craziness seem quite normal. I went to an evening of reconstructed breasts here in Toronto, and several surgeons spoke, and we had the privilege of meeting/seeing/touching some of their handiwork. One of his collegues said 'We want to give you breast that make you so friggin' happy'. Brilliant! I wrote a little bit about it here.
http://balderdish.blogspot.ca/2012/10/sisters-not-twins.html
I'm still waiting for my surgery date, so these success stories really keep me going. Thanks,
Janet
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Janet_M: I'd say the new girls are smaller than I was, but not by a lot (I was a small B and am now a mid- to small A). I do wonder if they'll go even smaller once they "settle." I was hoping for closer to B, but my PS had warned me that probably wasn't in the cards, so there wasn't any false advertising or anything. Just wishful thinking!
I do have the option of an implant later (under the flaps), but I'll wait a while to decide about that. I'm actually liking the small perky look, at least for now.
Love your blog, by the way - thanks for sharing that! Very cool. -
hi ladies! sooo excited to read all your posts. i am thinking i'm going to try to have the DIEP surgery done myself. I tried a regular TE bilateral on 1/3. unfortunately, i had so much infection that on 1/30 they had to remove them both. was very sad but glad to not be in so much pain. i was hesitant about it to begin with because i had finished radiation 6 months prior and although i healed fabulously......i had read and heard that this wasn't the optimal surgery for women who have had radiation but because it was less invasive and my PS said she was confident it would be great....i went with it. WRONG! so now i'm back to square one and even worse.....my radiated side looks awful.......still swolen....and still kind of red. very tender and sensitive and the scar tissue underneath is horrible. sooo disappointed. my PS wants to try again in April. I think not.
so the DIEP was originally the surgery i wanted but was scared that there wasn't a doctor in state i could go to that had the required experience. well....i found one and i'm getting a second opinion on 3/7. what i would love is some help with what to ask. i've done my research as far as what it entails. watched a video of the surgery on youtube. and checked to make sure externally i am cleared to have this type of surgery. i just want to make sure i'm choosing the right doctor and if there's anything i need to be aware of when i meet with him.
thank you so much for your help.....i sincerely appreciate it.
ally
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I think the number one question to ask is how many he/she did in the last year. I had to pull this out of one in my state and she had only done 7 total. Experience, experience experience.
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I would also want to know how much microvascular experience they have, and the same for the surgeon who will be working with him during the surgery. Ask which hospital he uses, how much experience the nurses who will be caring for you have with post-op flap patients. Ask about post-op followup, how often, stages, and photos of others he has done if possible. You certainly want to like he listens to your questions, doesn't try to avoid any answers, and doesn't try to rush you into decisions that you might not understand. You could always put his name on here, and ask if anyone has any knowledge/experience with him. It's a place to start, but you'll probably come up with more questions each time you think about it. My doc typically sees patients 2 to 3 times for presurgery Q and A, and made me feel like he would sit there and talk to me and my husband as long as we wanted to. He's a super busy surgeon, but once you're "in the room with him" you are made to feel like you're his main focus of the day. It also helps to have a good feeling about his office staff....how do they treat you, how comfortable are you. You need the technical info and you also need the personal comfort level too.
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thank you ladies.......these are awesome concerns. i will write them all down. i also found a questionnaire online to ask DIEP doctors and will use that as well. his name is Dr. Ljudevit Andres in Scottsdale, AZ. i'm not sure if this is where to put his name....if not, maybe someone can direct me. he notes that he has done this surgery 200-250 times a year which seems like a great number. again, i'm simply talking to him.....getting a second opinion and making sure i get all my important questions answered. i know there are a couple diep dr's at UCLA as well that i go see but i cant really afford to go out of town for this surgery.
thank you for your help ladies! i'm looking forward to all you have to say.
ally
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dnadebbs - are you sure about that name? The Arizona Medical Board lists him as a gastroenterologist. You want to be sure that your surgeon is board certified in Plastic Surgery and should have extensive additional training in microsurgical procedures.
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dnadebbs - I think you mean Lewis Albert Andres? Why don't you start a thread that asks if anyone has used Dr. Lewis Alber Andres from Advanced Aesthetic Associates in Phoenix. That should get you some information.
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omg! totally wrong doctor!
Dr. Lewis Albert Andres! thank you for correcting me! the other dr is in Prescott as opposed to scottsdale. kinda close but not really! lol!
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@dnadebbs, I would want to follow up with the surgeon to clarify what he really meant by that number. There are 52 weeks in a year--so 200 surgeries per year is nearly four per week, and 250 per year would be one almost every day except weekends and holidays. Did the surgeon really say he does 200-250 DIEP surgeries per year, or 200-250 surgeries of all kinds?
Frankly, I wonder how a single surgeon could do any kind of surgery four days a week, and still have time to see patients for pre-surgical consultations and follow-up appointments.
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curveball...........you're right....i had figured that out as well so its on my list of questions. it could also be the clinic itself actually does that many surgeries per year. who knows. i'm not going to guess. but yes.....this is why i am asking for all the questions......and thoughts........
thank you soooo much!
ally
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