Alternative Treatments- My great experience

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Bridanomor
Bridanomor Member Posts: 11
edited June 2014 in Alternative Medicine

Hello,

I was diagnosed in April 2011 at 29 years old with stage 3B invasive lobular carcinoma. (ER PR +) I had AC & taxol treatments for about 6 months followed by a left side mastectomy. I then had 35 radiation treatments.



After all that I was rediagnosed in my skin and chest wall of the same side in April 2012. They switched me from Tamoxifen to Arrimidex. After 3 months the bumps were getting progressively larger. My oncologist started talking about chemo and radiation all over again. I was chemo resistant the first time, I did not want to go thru that again for nothing.



I then turned to a Naturopathic Dr out of Portsmouth NH because I had heard great things. His name is Dr Bier at Human Nature Natural Health. After 3 months of his supplement treatments, diet changes, and vitamin C infusions all 13 of my chest bumps have reduced to almost nothing. My oncologist is both shocked and pleased with the results.



Chemo and radiation do have their place, but if they aren't working for you I urge you to explore alternative medicine, diet, natural supplements, and IV C treatments. It makes you feel great, and you have a chance to survive in a natural way. Once again, I'm not saying to avoid chemo or radiation, they do have their place for some people... but it didn't work for me.



I wanted to submit this post because there is ALWAYS hope. If one thing isn't working for you, try the next thing. There is always another option, even if your typical dr is unaware of it. Do the research, and listen to other people who have tried other methods. You never know what method is around the corner that could work for you.

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  • MelissaDallas
    MelissaDallas Member Posts: 7,268
    edited January 2013

    The majority of us on this thread are being followed for precancerous conditions and do not need chemo or radiation or an alternative to them.

  • Beesie
    Beesie Member Posts: 12,240
    edited January 2013

    Bridanomor, I'm glad that you are doing well.

    This discussion board has a forum for Complementary Treatment, and one for Alternative Treatment.  You may want to repost your story there. 

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited January 2013

    Bridanomor- I am sorry you had progression under standard treatment. It happens all the time, as you know. It's great that you have found a treatment that makes you feel good. Post wherever you want. Most of us who read here also had cancer and are interested in learning about various ways of approaching treatment. It's great to hear all diversity of stories about how people cope with cancer and what helps each of us.

    Godspeed, and keep posting.

  • NattyOnFrostyLake
    NattyOnFrostyLake Member Posts: 377
    edited January 2013

    Bridanomoor,

    Thank you for your story. Some of us go the alternative route from the beginning and others go that route when conventional treatments fail them. Either way we are ahead and lucky to have found practitioners who give us guidance or support our decisions.

    I'm glad your oncologist had a chance to see your benefit.

    Please let us know of any strategies you used.

    Good work!

  • wornoutmom
    wornoutmom Member Posts: 90
    edited January 2013

    I see some things never change here lol. My thread was locked only after I posted my success with alternatives. Very sad that others will suffer needlessly. I am 2 years out triple positive and feeling great thanks to alternatives. Be proud of your success no matter where it comes from and don't let others rain on your parade.



    Nice to see Athena on here always loved your posts :-)

  • NattyOnFrostyLake
    NattyOnFrostyLake Member Posts: 377
    edited January 2013

    Wornoutmom!

    I'm so glad to see your name and how well you're doing. I only pop in once in a while but whenever any of the oldies post, I get a thrill. I have a strategic question that you may have had answered. I've been taking many of the same things for years. Every once in a while I let some lapse such as curcumin or enzymes. Do you think there is any problem cycling certain supplements or treatments on and off?

    As I ask this question, I see that it is probably not answerable, that it would depend on the supplement.

    Anyway, I'm always eager to learn from you as you have done your research. And I don't mean Google!

    hugs,

    Natty Smile

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited January 2013

    Wornoutmom! So glad to see you back. Yes, some things change, and others just don't I'm afraid. Tell us more about how your are doing. Are you still traveling for treatment?

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited January 2013

    What I don't understand you mention "Once again, I'm not saying to avoid chemo or radiation, they do have their place for some people.." several times Why?

    It is scientifically proven that chemo, nuclear radiation or surgery have no healing effect in any cancer and the survival rate of chemo is only between 5% and 20%. I am not talking about the survival rate of cancer. Cancer can be treated and cured in nearly any state very easily. We should all know this since 1930, when Dr. Royal Rife treated and cured 15 cancer patients with his frequency machine (Rife machine) successfully. All 15 patients where cured. 

    Since that time it was clear that nature always has a way and the self healing mechanism is not just helping, no its avoiding any dis-ease. As long it is not destroyed by chemical toxification or nuclear radiation which means nothing less than killing all - healthy and toxic tissue. 

    What I don't understand also the fact that people trust any Non-Evident based chemotherapy over their own ability to work on the problem and heal. Not one sigle chemo medication is evident based, because it does not exist. All the research is sponsored and financed by the biggest pharmaceutical companies in the world (the cartel BASF, Bayer, former IG Farben in Germany) IG Farben was developing Senf Gas for the concentration camps in WW2. Only the H2 atom was changed and this is used for the chemotherapy today. (see Dr. Rath's speach about cancer on youtube)

    Any symptom oriented medication can never have a positive effect on any dis-ease. And there will never be a "pill" for cancer, even when the research spending goes in the billions each year. Because its not wanted. Follow the money...

    Breast cancer treatment is like many other forms of cancer very specific to each person. This means every woman with breast caner needs a different approach, especially in the field of emotion. Because any cancer can have multiple causes and at first a traumatic experience (partner or child conflict) must have happend before... 

    When this conflict is solved the cancer will disappear naturally, when the other 2 compontents are normal. pH level and energy - immune system. All critical components can be treated naturally and successfully today, but what we really need is the Courage to take responsibility to ourself and the self healing mechanism of the body. 

    This is what I don't understand, nobody seems to believe in holistic treatment, but in the chemical toxification without a second thought. Science means questioning everything and not taking it for granted. Is there a prove chemo will cure? No. Is there a prove nuclear radiation will cure? No. And even worse will cutting off cure the cause? No, it will spread the cancer and it will come back later. 

    The allopathic way is just to fight a symptom and killing it. That's the killing medicine. And what do we compare here is a very young 100+ year old medical industry with a over 5.000 year old ancient chinese medicine. Who can have more experience. For me its obvious and I am using holistic therapy (energetic and informational medicine) since over 10 years with the following result: I don't get sick anymore, not even the slightest sign of a flue or whatsoever. because I keep the energy level in the meridians high, at least over 50% and this is easy. 

    Cure starts when we are healthy and not when we are sick. The responsibility is to listen what the body has to say and analyse the signs - every sign, every day. The warnings always come long time before dis-ease is manifested, but nobody is listening. Just taking a pill without thinking and everything will be fine (or not). Nobody really cares what is in the small print on any medication. Moving symptoms from one issue to the next, until body sais NO MORE and give us something more heavy so that we pay attention.

    The survival rate of any cancer would be far far higher when chemo, radiation and surgery would not exist. All the remedies, energy, information, self healing power, immune system is there... We just need to activate it and change our old believe system. Going back to nothing is impossible and nothing is incurable.. I can do it. 

  • wornoutmom
    wornoutmom Member Posts: 90
    edited February 2013

    I missed you Athena you always made me smile!

    Yikes I get on and there are already banned comments??  The real trouble started when I revealed my progress.   I am doing great!!  Got the okay from my doctor to mention my clinic.  Been asked to speak at a conference and start a 503 C too.  Lots going on.  Home for a few weeks so I am trying to play catch up along with my blog. Try to stay private but that just isn't in my path..lol  Love seeing all I help so I will deal with it.

    Natty Groves I personally will cycle things in and out to veryify they are working for my body.  Curcumin is pretty powerful as it hits cancer from so many angles that make it grow.  I tried to take it out and my progress slowed and it is back in.  What kind of enzymes are you using.  There are those for food digestion and those that you take in between meals to fight the cancer.  If you are not eating raw than you should take the ones for digesting your meal.  If they are for cancer I would watch my numbers and see if the go down with them (assuming your numbers are readable that is).  

    I will be back :-)

  • Lily55
    Lily55 Member Posts: 3,534
    edited February 2013

    Wow great to see this I refused chemo despite being stage 3 so really interested in curcumin etc - on femara but d3 other immune boosters etc but feel awful emotionally



    Thank you for sharing

  • jojo68
    jojo68 Member Posts: 881
    edited March 2013

    So excited to see this thread!!!!!  Kiss

  • LuvinMyLife
    LuvinMyLife Member Posts: 65
    edited March 2013

    I am not able to take chemo. I am looking for other systemic treatments for triple negative. node involvement too. Anyone with some info please let me know.

     


  • lemon68
    lemon68 Member Posts: 684
    edited March 2013

    I would love to hear more about your treatment plan. Not sure why anyone wouldnt want to learn of alternatives if needed or wanted. Please do share with us.

  • tksteele
    tksteele Member Posts: 7
    edited March 2013

    Wornoutmom

    I am seeking alternative treatment for triple negative stage 2 breast cancer. I have epilespy and take several medications to try and control my seizures. I have not started chemo yet, no one can tell me what effect it will have on me.

    The cancer did not spread to my lymph nodes. The tumer was 2.6 cm cell grade 3 very agressive the doctor was me to do 6 months of chemo and 6 weeks of radation. 

    I am a vegan, I was told I can't eat salad or raw fruit. I have to go off my vit D and the list go's on and on.

    Is there anyone out there who can help me? I want to heal myself with food and herbs. I have also read about  curcumin.

    Any information and input would be welcome.

    tksteele

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited March 2013

    Why can't you eat salad and raw fruit? That sounds quite strange. 

  • tksteele
    tksteele Member Posts: 7
    edited March 2013

    I was told there is bacteria that cannot be washed away from lettace and thin skinned vegetables and fruits. My doctor feels it could harm me during chemo.

    I was told when I begin chemo I need to cook all my vegies and cannot eat salad. And only thick skinned fruit can be eaten raw. 

  • sara613
    sara613 Member Posts: 8
    edited March 2013

    I'd assume its because of pesticides in them maybe ask your doc about eating organic. Veggies and fruits are the best way to get vitamins that I know of I was vegan for a while so kinda know of these things.

  • MelissaDallas
    MelissaDallas Member Posts: 7,268
    edited March 2013

    No Sara, it is not the pesticides. It is because of food-bourne illness when your immune system is compromised. They don't want you getting food poisoning when your body can't handle it.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited March 2013

    Ahhh, ok, that sort of makes sense, I guess. I was not told this, however, and ate tons of salads during chemo. Ooops! My docs encouraged me to eat fruits and veggies actually.

  • sara613
    sara613 Member Posts: 8
    edited March 2013

    Interesting melissa then i guess you gotta take a good multi etc to make up for all the nutrients you'll be missing.

  • Adey
    Adey Member Posts: 3,610
    edited March 2013

    Me too momine.  I had 3 opinions before chemo and none warned me off raw fruits and veggies but I know there are many doctors that do.  It's a bit of a crap shoot.  Wade through the info and go with your gut and the people you trust.  Congrats on being vegan, it's tough.  I'm vegan-ish.  (c:  Good luck tksteele.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited March 2013

    Adey, good to know. It may also have been that they gave me neulasta after each chemo, so perhaps they were not as worried about this.

  • vespersparrow
    vespersparrow Member Posts: 62
    edited March 2013

    LuvinMyLife and tksteele, have you looked into adding the iodine protocol to your regimens?  I've been doing it for several years and my breasts are so soft now, all the fibrous lumps and bumps are gone.  And most importantly my cancer hasn't come back.  The Breast Cancer Choices site is probably the best place to get more information about the protocol (google it!).

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited March 2013

    I want to but in here for an update of my situation:  now 2 years+ since I first noticed the raised hardened cyst had grown a red spot.  now the red has covered the cyst, but for several months it seems to be dring up.  I have no idea whether this is good or bad, probably bad?  but I'm undiagnosed & intend to remain so>  my protocall given to me nov 2011 by a naturopath:  45 minutes a week of a castor oil pack, alternating homeopathis pellets:  silacea & phosphorus 3 weeks each, 2 cups of mega green tea a day, de caff, I take them out of the vegetarian geletain capsules, olive leaf decoction, a few tablspoons a day, I make it myself.  I juice every day.  I alternate the pellets 3 weeks each.  I read with google that untreated the average life is 2 and a forth years, that would take me to june 15th.  but I assume thos woman have been diagnosed with mamograms, biopsies & exrays.

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited March 2013
  • Mardibra
    Mardibra Member Posts: 1,111
    edited March 2013
  • NattyOnFrostyLake
    NattyOnFrostyLake Member Posts: 377
    edited March 2013

    Abigail, that's such good news. I hope you keep us updated on what you're doing. We always like to celebrate good news no matter what course you choose.

    Blessings  

  • jojo68
    jojo68 Member Posts: 881
    edited March 2013

    VERY interesting article...highlighting what the speakers at the CAM conference had to say...very promising new treatments as well...Oncothermia is especially intriguing!

    http://micheleforsten.com/?page_id=366#Epigentics

  • abigail48
    abigail48 Member Posts: 1,699
    edited March 2013

    hi yorkimom...........your post was deleted before I was able to read it but I was messaged as to the content.  (your 15 year old boy-troll here, guess I must be 16 by now), if your post was more than 1 sentence I know just the first.  & the other deleted done I know not at all.  Natty:  I don't know that it's good news at all, I assume not.  but I have more than 8 new oil pictures which I wouldn't have had had I gone the usual route.  & yorkie  you & your friends did teach me that indeed I don't have the fast growing cancer I thodught I did

  • LuvRVing
    LuvRVing Member Posts: 4,516
    edited March 2013

    My Dana Farber oncology team told me I could eat fresh fruits and veggies unless I was seriously neutropenic.  My white counts have been ok so I eat everything except I avoid salad bars.  Never had a problem.

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