Cold Caps Usage Tips

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  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited May 2012
    ckk, that is an excellent point...the caps probably didn't have time to get good and frozen in the regular freezer first! 
  • ughhh
    ughhh Member Posts: 3
    edited July 2012

    What a chaotic first experience!  It sounds frustrating!

    I wonder if using 100 pounds of dry ice would help next time?  I use all 100 #'s of it to keep hats cold for the 3 hours prior and 4 hours post infusion.  I have only had one treatment today is day 20.  No shedding or hair loss! Yipee.... I am hoping for the best with next infusion!  

    Good Luck to you!

  • BouncingBetties
    BouncingBetties Member Posts: 379
    edited July 2012

    I have to say that I didn't have to use dry ice and used my home freezer for my caps. I also used regular cold packs in my cooler to transport and keep the caps cool during treatment. I had weekly treatment and made sure to have the caps in the freezer for at least 4 to 5 days in between each one.

  • GingerAmy
    GingerAmy Member Posts: 20
    edited August 2012

    Smile Hi!

    I am brand new here. Was diagnosed friday the 13th of April with DCIS, then again friday the 13th of july after lumpectomy they told me I had stage 1 that was "discovered" in my supposed "clean margin" surgery.

    They didn't do a node biopsy, because they didn't think there was anything other than the clean margins (I had a needle core biopsy/MRI "confirmed" nothing left, which turned out to be wrong).

    Anyway, I don't want another surgery for the nodes. I am going to do chemo to get it over with. I bought the "Elasto Gel Cold Caps" (5 of them from Amazon) and am desperately seek advice on how to use them.

    My hair is almost to the middle of my back, permed and colored blonde. I went prematurely gray in early 20s due to thyroid issues.

    I just started a new job; I supervise in an Adult Home (Seniors). I don't want to scare them with an appearance change. And moreso, i want to fight for normalcy.

    Can you help me please? I am desperate!

    Are 5 caps enough? Do I wet my whole head first, and put all the hair up and in? I'm very scared.

    I have to go to work 12 hours now so thank you so much for any and all advice. When I am through with this cancer bullcr*p I will be more than willing to help the next person.

    Right now I am begging for help!

    Thank you!Cry

    Amy

  • Laura5133388
    Laura5133388 Member Posts: 577
    edited August 2012
    Gingeramy, private message sebm9. She has an extensive write up on using the caps. She used Penguin Cold Caps, but their protocol should be used with any caps. Good luck!
  • Hortense
    Hortense Member Posts: 982
    edited August 2012

    Gingeramy - Leave your hair down, not up. It's not the hair that's being treated but the follicles they grow out of which need to be kept very cold to prevent blood carrying chemo from getting to them. Putting your hair up would act as an insulator between the cold caps and the follicles which is not what is needed.

    My Penguin caps had to be kept at -32ºC , colder caused frostbite on me and I lost the hair in the spots where that happened.You will need to get a special thermometer to measure as temperature is critical to success. I have long, straight, lightened hair of medium volume. If you have a very thick growth of hair, you might need it colder.

    DO NOT color your hair before using the caps. I lightened my roots six days beforehand which I knew was against protocol and think my extra shedding and hair loss might be due to doing so. Now, I wish I hadn't, but foolish vanity made me do it. Dumb of me. Don't perm either.

    Treat yout hair very gently during and after chemo for about three months to avoid extra loss. No brushing it, styling or blow drying it as you might be used to doing. Shampoo gently with Ph balanced shampoos, using as little scrubbing action as possible. I pat the shampoo on and ever so carefully run my fingers through the soapy hair, then rise it out. I have been using DermOrganic brand as Penguin recommended it and I found it on Amazon.

    Because you cannot take care of your hair as you usually do, you will look like you are having lots of bad hair days, but if you keep your hair, it will be worth it.

     Good luck! 

  • GingerAmy
    GingerAmy Member Posts: 20
    edited August 2012

    Thank you Hortense and Laura5!Smile

    I will take the "bad hair days" because in my job I can just put it up loosely.

    I'm just scared, and know poeple will ask me what's going on.

    I want to beat this with some dignity intact.

  • Laura5133388
    Laura5133388 Member Posts: 577
    edited August 2012

    GingerAmy, My thoughts exactly. Getting a bc diagnosis was overwhelming, and I couldn't stand the thought of looking sick and having my privacy being invaded.

    Hortense has great tips and also started a new thread, http://community.breastcancer.org/forum/69/topic/791217?page=1#idx_6 for ladies just starting on this journey.

    www.rapunzelproject.org donated a freezer to my chemo center. I had to pursuade the center to accept it though.

  • Hortense
    Hortense Member Posts: 982
    edited January 2013

    Just wanted to let people know that six months after my final chemo, not only do I have natural roots that are over 4" long on all the hair I kept by using Cold Caps, I also have 2" of new hair growth from follicles which had shed hair during chemo that is busily filling in between all the hair shafts.

    I am so glad I took that leap of faith when I decided to use Penguin Cold Caps. They really DO work.

  • Laura5133388
    Laura5133388 Member Posts: 577
    edited January 2013
  • 301724
    301724 Member Posts: 478
    edited February 2013

    Any who are looking for the research on cold caps to give their docs - just PM me. I have compiled a bibliography of 70+ articles on the evidence about cold caps and that addresses concerns about scalp mets.

  • Hortense
    Hortense Member Posts: 982
    edited February 2013

    Tips:

    1. To keep your hair from catching on the cold cap's velcro straps during cap changes - have your helpers loosely attach the velcro straps before placing the cold cap on your head.  Once the cap is set on your head, put your non-infusion hand firmly on it to hold it in place, that frees the helpers to concentrate on tightening the velcro straps. Have them start with the front straps, then have them tighten the back flaps until the cap is snug. At that point you can remove your hand. 

    2. If you have a large head - get extra gel bands to wrap around just below the caps so that you will not lose any hair not covered by the cap itself - any hair not covered WILL fall out. The gel bands should be butted closely up against the cold caps at every cap change and should cover every bit of your hair below the caps on the sides and on the back of your head. Be sure your helpers have the gel bands at the same temperature as the caps.

  • Hortense
    Hortense Member Posts: 982
    edited February 2013

    For those concerned about the possiblity of scalp mets, or who need information about scalp cooling therapy to bring to their doctors - please go both websites posted below. Thank you to breastcancer.org member makingway for finding and posting both!

    The first website will take you to a scholarly article about chemo induced hair loss and includes an overview of 58 scalp cooling studies with the conclusion that scalp cooling is safe and should be available in every hospital.

    The second website is an easy to read, one page report of a cold cap study done at the Rose Cancer Treatment Center at Beaumont Hospital, Royal Oak, MI and is complete with photographs. Of those women who completed the study there, the TC and TCH patients had a higher than 90% rate of success in keeping their hair and even the AC, AC-T and TAC patients did relatively well with 6 out of 10 grading good to excellent on the Dean's Alopeica scale. 

    You will need to sign up to Medscape to read the first article, but doing so just takes a second. It's free and the article is chock full of solid information. : www.medscape.com/viewarticle/7...

    I am posting its Abstract below as an introduction, and I put its final sentence in italics. The rest can be found on the website:

    Abstract

    Background: This article provides an overview of the incidence and severity, presentation and impact of chemotherapy-induced alopecia (CIA), one of the most common and distressing side effects of cancer therapy. Furthermore, prevention of CIA by scalp cooling is described, as well as suggestions for improvement of scalp cooling application and clinical research approaches.

    Methods: This article focuses on the availability of options to treat CIA and on scalp cooling in particular. It presents an overview of 58 scalp cooling publications and three personal communications, describing its working mechanism, determinants of success rates, side effects and controversies.

    Results: CIA occurs in many chemotherapy regimens and is nearly always reversible. Up to now, scalp cooling is by far the best method to reduce CIA. Concerns about the protection of malignant cells in the scalp skin by scalp cooling have been proven to be exaggerated. The majority of patients tolerate scalp cooling very well. Scalp cooling is cost-effective when compared with purchasing wigs and other head covers. A promising method for objective research on CIA is now used in studies to further improve the method of scalp cooling – that is, cooling times and temperatures.

    Conclusion: Scalp cooling is effective but not for all chemotherapy patients. Further psychological, clinical and biophysical research is needed to identify the determinants of success. Scalp cooling should be available in every hospital, and every suitable patient should be given the opportunity, after being well informed by their doctor or nurse, to choose for scalp cooling.

     ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

     

    The Rose Cancer Treatment Center at Beaumont Hospital, Royal Oak, MI







  • Shasha10
    Shasha10 Member Posts: 297
    edited February 2013

    Ok Everyone. I just scheduled the pick up for the penguin cold caps, have the ice man ready to deliver and chemo TCH starts Feb 25. I have more tests this week. Just found out I was low B12 so will be beginning B12 shots as well. I have my coolers, electric blanket, still need to pu mole skin and shampoo today. I really appreciate the info about the tightening the Velcro beforehand.

  • mdg
    mdg Member Posts: 3,571
    edited February 2013

    Go Shasha!  Good luck!  We are here to support you.  You WILL have hair!

  • Laura5133388
    Laura5133388 Member Posts: 577
    edited February 2013
  • qrex1
    qrex1 Member Posts: 18
    edited February 2013

    Tips question:

    for those that have long hair and exercise regularlly, could you recommend any ways you have found to keep your hair up and out of the way during workouts?  Mine is very thick, I tried a claw clip, but my hair is so heaving, when I run it fallings down.  Anytime I put one of those soft, bands, the kind that look like they were cut off the top of a tube sock, around the ends of my gathered hair if I braid it (the braid seems to not pull on one section like a low ponytail would and the free hair that would be in the ponytail aren't able to get pulled on in the workout), when I take off the band a bunch of hair comes out.  I work out every day and this is a problem.

    Thank you.

  • mdg
    mdg Member Posts: 3,571
    edited February 2013

    I put a thin elastic headband on to keep hair out of my face and then I used a thin rubberband and put my hair in a low ponytail without making it too tight.  I was very gentle putting the rubberband in/out.  My hair was down to the middle of my back when I did chemo.  I exercised 5 days a week through chemo.  I was not running but doing weights and the ellipical.

  • dancetrancer
    dancetrancer Member Posts: 4,039
    edited February 2013

    I either braided it loosely or wore a bandana.  

  • qrex1
    qrex1 Member Posts: 18
    edited February 2013

    dancetrancer and mdg -thank you so much.  I read your blog mdg before I started chemo and it was very helpful and inspiring to know I could get through this, keep me hair and now reading these boards and your blog, realizing I was not the only one!

  • mdg
    mdg Member Posts: 3,571
    edited February 2013

    I am glad to help...this process stinks and it's lonely.....I am happy to support someone going through it and make it less lonely and scary.  Hugs!!

  • ckk
    ckk Member Posts: 270
    edited November 2013
  • Angelaaa
    Angelaaa Member Posts: 4
    edited January 2016

    Is there any benefit if you didn't use cold cap first treatment but do the rest?

  • LAZ
    LAZ Member Posts: 10
    edited January 2016

    if you've already had your first treatment I believe it's too late to save your hair. But if you used the caps for the rest of your treatments your hair will start to grow back during your chemo. It is a pretty labor intensive process....so it may or not be worth it to you.

  • makingway
    makingway Member Posts: 799
    edited January 2016

    If you use the caps after the 1st treatment, you might not save as much hair but at least it offers some protection for the hair follicles. It has been reported that up to 6% of Taxotere users have PERMANENT hair loss http://aheadofourtime.org/

  • JCS28
    JCS28 Member Posts: 153
    edited January 2016

    Hi all! I'm just now joining in! I had my first chemo and first cold capping last week on Jan. 13. I didn't think the cold cap was nearly as bad as I expected. But the cold hair wash is brutal! Of course, it doesn't help that it's so cold outside right now. From others I know it was recommended to start Biosil and Silica so I started just a couple of days before chemo. I am so worried that I'm being too tough on my hair with hair washing and brushing. I'm only washing every 2-3 days and try to only gently brush once a day or so. Does anyone have any tips for this? Thanks!

  • LAZ
    LAZ Member Posts: 10
    edited January 2016

    I used DermOrganic shampoo and conditioner every 3 days with water that was about body temp. I gently

    combed through my hair before rinsing the conditioner. Then I squeezed the excess water out with a towel,applied a little spray gel to the bottom half(not roots) and hung my head upside down and dried my roots with a blow dryer on cool for volume.

    Not my prettiest hair days... ugh dirty gray roots...but my hair survived quite intact. The shedding will stress you out though. I know of a woman who counted her hair and saved it in little baggies. Try not to worry about it. You will shed, but the caps will work if you follow the directions! Good luck! Let me know If I can help!

    Lori

  • JCS28
    JCS28 Member Posts: 153
    edited January 2016

    Thanks! I just need to embrace the "bed head" look!

  • jc254
    jc254 Member Posts: 439
    edited January 2016

    Remember, a bad hair day is better than a no hair day!

    Happy

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