Chest wall involvement

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bcfree2013
bcfree2013 Member Posts: 94

My oncologist told me that my tumor is attached to my chestwall muscles. So i will do chemo first to shrink the tumor. Did any of you have the same problem and what was your treatment? I am so scared!

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  • new_direction
    new_direction Member Posts: 449
    edited January 2013

    Hi Bcfree2013 (good name and goal!)
    Mine was not attached to anything but they wanted to do chemo as well as the first thing because of the size and some of the tumor characteristics (fast division). Have you gotten info about the cancer cell type (receptor status of ER, PR, her2 etc)?
    In the beginning I focused on all the scary stuff - size of my tumor, it's aggressiveness etc, but remember being stage III still means your situation is potentially curable! Also some of the scary stuff can actually be an advantage in the treatment situation, for example fast division makes it more likely to get a good chemo response. I did breathing exercises and tried to be present and enjoy good times with my family although it can be hard...

    It's very hard in the beginning to both cope with the shock of recent diagnosis and also having to face a lot of treatment which you don't know so much about... BUT you will get through it! I have just finished my chemo. I had a very hard time in the beginning coming to terms with not having primary surgery... But as I begun chemo and time passed it began to make sense. Response of treatment can be followed as you go along making it easier to optimize treatment if there is not sufficient response. Once you learn that the treatment helps it's easier to go along. Although chemo can be hard at times - and you think in the beginning - it feels like it lasts forever... before you know it, it's all done! Some don't have many side effects. I wasn't that fortunate. Time sometimes feels endless but remember to think of the deadline, take one treatment at a time and most importantly take good care of yourself.

    If you have time and energy try to look into the chemo drugs you will get and see if you can find some good tips on the boards - both to prepare psychologically but also there are many ways to relieve some of the possible side effects.

    Good luck.

  • lostinmo
    lostinmo Member Posts: 922
    edited January 2013

    bcfree2013, mine wasn't attatched to the chest wall but very close. (unclear margins) I did chemo first to shrink the tumor, surgery, then rads to kill of any cells that might have strayed because of the unclean margins. But most of the time I think they give rads anyway. 

    I know how scary it is, but take it one step at a time and focus on that. You can do this. We are all here for you.

  • bcfree2013
    bcfree2013 Member Posts: 94
    edited January 2013

    Thank you, new_direction! I haven't got much detailed diagnosis information yet, though I am done with all my tests. Waiting for the results is soooooo hard, but I am trying to get prepared as much as I can.

  • bcfree2013
    bcfree2013 Member Posts: 94
    edited January 2013

    lostinmo, thank you! It's very likely that I am going to have chemo, surgery, and rads as well. Hope I will do well.

  • blondiex46
    blondiex46 Member Posts: 5,712
    edited January 2013

    I have it on the chest wall, that is where it went with the recurrence.....on chemo have been since 2010...

    Sandy

  • ValL
    ValL Member Posts: 31
    edited January 2013

    Hello Brave Ladies,

    I just have a quick question....when the chest wall is involved, did you feel any different before you were diagnosed?

    Thanks.

    Val

  • bcfree2013
    bcfree2013 Member Posts: 94
    edited January 2013

    Hello, blondiex46, I am sorry to hear about your recurrence but I am glad to know that you are doing well.

  • bcfree2013
    bcfree2013 Member Posts: 94
    edited January 2013

    Hello, Val, I don't think I felt anything special. My doctor told me that my MRI showed chest wall involvement. I am still waiting for more test results.

  • MMSS
    MMSS Member Posts: 103
    edited February 2013

    When I was first diagnosed I was already a stage 3 because after never missing a mammogram in 30 years I came down with ILC which usually will not show up on a mammogram or in my case an ultrasound either. I finally had the MRI from hell that showed a large tumor that was in the chest muscle and it was questionable whether it was in the chest wall. That was the bad news. The good news is that the tumor was 3+ positive for both estrogen and progesterone in 100% of the cells and fairly non aggressive grade 1 and a KI67 of 2. Because of my age 73 and the fact that I was fortunate enough to have a MO who trained at MD Anderson and stays very current I got to do hormone therapy instead of chemo. It worked like a charm. When I had a BMX after 20 weeks of an AI the tumor was half it's original size and completely out of the muscle so that they could get a clean disection. With an oncotype DX of 6 I am looking at radiation and at least 5 years of AI therapy. At first I panicked that I couldn't have it out immediately but now I am so very glad that I waited. It made for a much easier surgery and knowing that the tumor responds so well to hormone therapy gives me a lot more confidence going forward. One thing about ILC is that it is very sneaky and in my case the second MRI that I had at 8 weeks into the therapy showed a tomor size that was smaller than what we found at surgery. I am very glad that I waited because I didn't want to mess up the holidays. I know one woman who took an AI for a whole year before her surgery and thus was able to have a lumpectomy rather than a MX. I had no interest in doing that because I was way too freaked out by having something that would not show up on a mammogram. I didn't need that stress level for the rest of my life. Being able to do an AI as opposed to chemo was huge for me. It is my understanding that the current thinking on recurrence is that it has more to do with the aggressiveness of the tumor than it does with the tumor size or the number of positive lymph nodes which if you think about it makes sense. There are many different types of BC. They are not all the same animal and they do not all behave alike.

  • bcfree2013
    bcfree2013 Member Posts: 94
    edited February 2013

    MMSS, your story is so encouraging. My tumor is triple negative so my MO is going to use chemo first to shrink the tumor. Hope it will work for me!

  • jennyboog
    jennyboog Member Posts: 1,322
    edited February 2013

    My tumor wasn't attach but almost, it was at the 12 o'clock position and was only milllimeters away.  I did neoadj chemo to shrink it and it worked, they got clean margins at my BMX and they took the fasia (not spelled correct, the membrane that covers the muscle).  I will be 3 yrs out in July. 

  • MMSS
    MMSS Member Posts: 103
    edited February 2013

    It sounds like you have the type of tumor that responds really well to neoadjuvant chemo. Good luck to you and be patient. What you are doing is cutting down the size of the problem with each treatment that you have.

  • bcfree2013
    bcfree2013 Member Posts: 94
    edited February 2013

    Jennyboog, congrates on three years out. I am starting my chemo on Monday and I hope it will be very effective for me!

  • jennyboog
    jennyboog Member Posts: 1,322
    edited February 2013

    Thanks.  I hope chemo is successful for you.  I did TAC chemo also.  Thinking of you tomorrow.

  • Kay_G
    Kay_G Member Posts: 3,345
    edited February 2013

    My MRI also showed my tumor was invading my pectoralis muscle. I did neoadjuvant AC, then axilla and herceptin, then surgery. My tumor went from over 4 cms to about 1 cm after surgery. They were able to get good margins. And then I had rads to the chest wall as well. It will be two years since diagnosis on March 1. I am doing great and think I beat cancer for good! Best of luck to you.

  • bcfree2013
    bcfree2013 Member Posts: 94
    edited February 2013

    Kay_G, thank you for the encouragement. I am feeling nervous b/c I am starting chemo tomorrow. Hope it will work well for me!

  • Sjesse12345
    Sjesse12345 Member Posts: 45
    edited February 2013

    bcfree2013 - I see you are TN same as me, the big thing we do have going for us is that for most of us we get "more bang for our buck" with the chemo, it sucks that TN is more agressive but then chemo works better on more agressive tumors. 

    I will tell you how I feel about my chemo (down 3 with 5 more to go, next is this Wednesday, also Neoadjuvant), I actually look forward to my chemo and start getting antsy before it because when I get it I feel like there is something now in me that is fighting the beast.  Chemo is our "big gun" in this fight so I tell myself that any of the SEs I get will be worth it.  Just my two cents.  Good luck tomorrow and check in with us when you can to let us know how it went.

  • bcfree2013
    bcfree2013 Member Posts: 94
    edited February 2013

    Sjesse12345, you have great altitude! I am also trying to be positive and will share my chemo experience soon!

  • cmdczc
    cmdczc Member Posts: 75
    edited February 2013

    I didn't have chest wall involvement, but a large tumor nonetheless.  These ladies have good advice. Hope all goes well for you.  We are all with you in this journey,

    Cindy (IIIa)

  • bcfree2013
    bcfree2013 Member Posts: 94
    edited February 2013

    Cmdczc, thank you for the support!!!

  • Sjesse12345
    Sjesse12345 Member Posts: 45
    edited February 2013

    Hi bcfree2013, just checking to see how everything went with your first chemo.

  • bcfree2013
    bcfree2013 Member Posts: 94
    edited February 2013

    Sjesse, I had my first infusion about ten days ago and it went well. My biggest side effects seem to be nausea and fatigue, which lasted for about 3 days. I think the chemo is working and I can feel that my tumor is becoming smaller. I am meeting my MO on Monday for an exam before my second infusion. Hope he will confirm that the chemo is working. How about you?

  • jbdayton
    jbdayton Member Posts: 700
    edited March 2013

    I too have been diagnosed with possible chest wall involvement in my left breast I have not been staged.  The surgeon wrote on my paperwork  T2, N0, M0.  My tumor is approx 2.5 cm in the 5 o'clock position with chest wall involvement likely.  It is a very fast growing tumor Nottingham 9.  I will be getting my port installed Tuesday Feb 26 and will begin chemo the next week.  TAC for 6-rounds every 3 weeks.  The goal is to shrink the tumor and pull it away from the chest wall.  Sounds like a similar plan.  Lets pray for the best,  God is with us.   

  • Kay_G
    Kay_G Member Posts: 3,345
    edited February 2013

    Jbdayton, the same treatment worked for me! And I am sure you will get radiation to the chest wall once chemo and surgery are done too. It is scary, but I am doing well two years after a similar diagnosis. I truly think it is gone for good with me. I did also make some life style changes which make me feel better too. I don't stress nearly as easily as I used to, and I eat much healthier and exercise. It makes me feel like I am doing something about it, and my outlook is very positive and I feel great! I am hoping for a great response to chemo for you. The good thing about the really aggressive tumors are that they respond very well to chemo.

  • lostinmo
    lostinmo Member Posts: 922
    edited February 2013

    bcfree, glad that your first treatment went well. Shrink tumor, shrink!

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited February 2013

    During neo-adjuvant chemo I would focus on the tumor and mutter, "die, motherfucker, DIE!" Childish, I know, but it made me feel better (and the tumor did shrink almost immediately, see? I scawed it ;) ).

  • bcfree2013
    bcfree2013 Member Posts: 94
    edited February 2013

    Thank you all, for the encouragement!

  • Kay_G
    Kay_G Member Posts: 3,345
    edited February 2013

    Great news bcfree! It made it much easier to get chemo when I could see the tumor shrinking, I hope it will help you get through the rest of txs too. Hang in there!

  • jbdayton
    jbdayton Member Posts: 700
    edited March 2013

    I have been away for awhile but I am currently on round 2 and my tumor is definetly shrinking.  I have managed with very minor SE's and my blood counts have been back to normal ranges by 10 days out.  How is everyone else doing?

    Blessings to all.

  • Kay_G
    Kay_G Member Posts: 3,345
    edited April 2013

    Great news! Hope you're still doing okay with chemo

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