Blood mutation + huge family history

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Lauraed87
Lauraed87 Member Posts: 4

In my family 2/3 sisters develop breast cancer out of every generation. Unfortunately I'm a direct link with my grandmother having breast cancer twice ( once in each breast) and my mother having it once (but having both her breasts removed to avoid what my grandmother faced. My aunt also faced it twice. All three recently had the brca test done. They tested negative for the breast cancer, positive for the cervical cancer part. But all three were told there was a unrecognized mutation in their sample. Now I am 25 and I for the first time ever have pain in my breasts. It feels like needles on my areole an soreness from my right breast up to almost my armpit. I watched all three of these amazing women fight this horrible disease, but it terrifies me. The doctor doesn't start mammograms until 40 I think. But my mothers cousin died of breast cancer at 32. What steps should I take at this point? I'm grateful for any advice anyone can share. I'm praying in 20 years my girls won't have to fear this.

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  • leaf
    leaf Member Posts: 8,188
    edited January 2013

    Does your doctor know your breast cancer history?  If (s)he is only offering you mammograms starting at age 40, then I'd seek the opinion of a breast surgeon, who could refer you to a certified genetics counselor.

    Since you are at high risk of having an unknown mutation, we don't know the genetics of that mutation.  *If* your mother has a single unknown deleterious BRCA mutation, and assuming your father doesn't carry a BRCA mutation, then each child of your mother has  about a 50% chance of inheriting the gene.  That means that each child has about a 50% chance of NOT inheriting the mutated gene.  For known BRCA mutations, all carriers do not inevitably get breast cancer.  There may be other influences such as environmental or lifestyle factors.

    Traditionally, the advice I've seen most commonly for BRCA mutation carriers is in general to start screening about 10 years before the age that the relative got breast cancer.  I'm sure there are exceptions, and can be a risk vs benefit thing the younger you start getting mammograms.  Most papers I've seen recommend yearly breast MRIs for people in this high risk situation.

    I think its important that you see a doctor who knows a lot about breast cancer genetics and handles high-risk people.  

  • Annette47
    Annette47 Member Posts: 957
    edited January 2013

    I agree with the above response, especially the last line about seeing someone who is familiar with genetics and high-risk.   For what it's worth, I was told by my BS, that even if I test negative for BRCA (will be having that done in a couple months) she would recommend my daughters start mammograms ten years before I was diagnosed (so for them, that would be when they are 35).   She said she recommends 10 years before the mother was diagnosed or 40 years old, whichever comes first.   If your doctor is really saying wait until 40 with such a strong family history, I'd be concerned enough to get a second opinion.

  • Lauraed87
    Lauraed87 Member Posts: 4
    edited January 2013

    Thanks so much for taking the time to respond to me. I have told my doctor of my history. I didn't realize there were other specialists beside my obgyn dr to go to. Will I need a referral? My mother had breast cancer at 35 so I would need a mammogram starting now by your calculations. Should I seek out a genetics counselor or breast surgeon first?

  • Annette47
    Annette47 Member Posts: 957
    edited January 2013

    If your doctor knows you are having pain, and still refuses to send you for a mammogram, I would think a consult with a breast surgeon would be a good idea.   They in turn can recommend the genetics counselor.   Best of luck!

  • beacon800
    beacon800 Member Posts: 922
    edited January 2013

    Definitely this stuff is way outside the area that an on/gyn can handle. If you have a major cancer center near you, they will probably have genetic specialists and oncologists who specialize in high risk breast patients. There is enuf history in your family to justify going to a pro on this. I would go now, rather than wait til older.

  • leaf
    leaf Member Posts: 8,188
    edited January 2013

    I agree with all of the above.  Just wanted to assure you that just because you go to a breast surgeon does NOT mean you have chosen breast surgery. (You do NOT have to make up your mind about choices right now.)   I'd think you'd want some idea of your risk first before you decide what is best for you. The breast surgeon should understand the significance of your family history.  They are the first go-to for diagnosis.  Some high risk people get followed by breast surgeons, and some by medical oncologists.  (My local major cancer center has high risk people followed by breast surgeons, but I think at other places they get followed by medical oncologists. For my own particular situation, I prefer to be followed by a medical oncologist because I have complex medical issues, and I personally can't stand my particular breast surgeon.  Your institution and situation are undoubtedly much different than mine.) 

    A genetics counselor should be able to give you some idea about how much they know or don't know about your situation, and what choices you have in your situation.  I learned a lot from my genetics counselor, even though I chose in my particular situation not to get BRCA tested.

    I totally agree - I'd go now with a pro on this (not your OB/GYN), sooner rather than later.

  • carol57
    carol57 Member Posts: 3,567
    edited January 2013

    Laura, on the question of whether you need a referral to see a breast surgeon, that depends on your insurance plan.  Check online if your plan gives you online access to coverage, find-a-doc, etc., or call the customer service number that's probably on the back of your insurance card. It's a simple question that your insurance company will be able to answer.  I think it's pretty common these days to let us self-refer to specialists.  Good luck with this!

  • Lauraed87
    Lauraed87 Member Posts: 4
    edited January 2013

    Thank you all so much for your responses. I'm really glad I found this site and I am looking into getting an appointment and where locally I should go. I had no clue that there were specialist outside of oncology and obgyn. Thanks for all your advice.

  • ballet12
    ballet12 Member Posts: 981
    edited January 2013

    Why don't you start a thread on bco asking about high-risk clinics in your general area or in your state.  It is also likely that the NCI cancer hospitals, like Memorial Sloan Kettering (which does have one of those clinics), MD Anderson (Texas) and Dana Farber (Boston), as well as others:Mayo Clinic, Johns Hopkins, Roswell Cancer Institute (Buffalo, NY), UCLA, Yale-New Haven, etc. etc. have these high-risk clinics, where a team follows you.  Diagnostic tests would be give appropriate to your specific situation.  I really recommend finding one of these clinics, even if it means travelling once or twice per year for follow-up.  Without a serious problem, you may not need to be seen more frequently at first.  Hopefully you would gain some comfort in doing this.

  • Mutd
    Mutd Member Posts: 148
    edited January 2013

    Laura do you know more about their mutations? 

    "All three recently had the brca test done. They tested negative for the breast cancer, positive for the cervical cancer part. But all three were told there was a unrecognized mutation"

    BRCA doesn't do anything for cervical, and there are no blood mutation tests for cervical cancer risks, so this positive test just might be something else, maybe something more important for understanding your family history. Have you seen a Genetic Counselor?

    And then the part about a BRCA variant of unknown significance. If the same variant is detected in many family members, then it may actually be significant in itself (do you know what was the name of the variant, and was it really the same one in all three tests?). It is also something to quiz a Genetic Counselor about!

  • SelenaWolf
    SelenaWolf Member Posts: 1,724
    edited January 2013

    A genetics counsellor will, also, be able to give you advice on managing your risk going forward, i.e., the type of screening programmes you can set up to ensure that you are closely monitored.

  • Lauraed87
    Lauraed87 Member Posts: 4
    edited January 2013

    You are right Mutd, im sorry I misspoke in my origional post. I misunderstood my mom web she tol me her results and she corrected me today when I told her about my posting.



    As for the mutation no, they didn't give us any info except that it is present in all three family members they have tested and its unidentified. I guess it could be an unknown link to breast cancer since they all tested negative on the brca test, but all had that mutation. But as far as we were told its just an unknown mutation.



    I have researched and found a cancer center in my city at a research hospital. I'm in the middle of nursing school so I'm planning on making an appointment within the next few weeks in between exams.

  • Mutd
    Mutd Member Posts: 148
    edited January 2013

    Good luck, Laura! You can also get some good info on GCs serving you area on FORCE website (facingourrisk.org)

    Any patient can request a copy of their lab report, to see for herself what the report actually says. It may be a good idea to get the copies of the reports before you discuss it with a genetic counsellor. Maybe there is a BRCA genetic variant of unknown role in the family, or maybe the BRCA test didn't find anything unusual at all ... so all there is is a suspicion that some other gene might be broken. What is the actual story in those lab results, it may make a huge difference for your screening plan.

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