Diagnosed November 9, 2012...lumpectomy tomorrow!

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dbm75
dbm75 Member Posts: 20

I am new to these boards, have been reading them since my diagnoss on November 9, 2012 with IDC, but just now am making the move to join. My surgery is tomorrow...lumpectomy, sentinal node biopsy, wire localization. I am nervous but very ready to finally be doing something about this! The waiting for all the tests and test results is what has been the worst! Have had mammograms, ultrasounds, a core needle biopsy, an MRI, more ultrasounds, and the BRCA test (negative, thank God!). But am finally done with all of that and ready to start the next phase....getting this out of my body! I'm scared, but will be so glad to finally be doing something about it instead of just waiting for test result after test result. I never thought I'd feel actually anxious to get on with surgery, but doing nothing while waiting is worse! I'm so worried about finding clean lymph nodes and clean margins in tomorrow's surgery! All the tests so far suggest that it is one small tumor with normal appearing lymph nodes, but until that pathology report comes back after surgery, I won't rest easy. Would love to hear other similar stories! This forum has been a Godsend for my late night insomnia!

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  • Yawls
    Yawls Member Posts: 39
    edited January 2013

    Hi dbm. You were diagnosed the same time I was having surgery. Compared to what you have already been through, surgery will be a breeze:). The wire guided thing was scarier to think about than it was to actually go through. The only uncomfortable thing of the whole day was the prep for the snb. I had a quadrectomy which is a lumpectomy only with a larger chunk removed. My surgeon was able to tell me before I went home that evening that I had clear nodes. That was an unexpected and wonderful relief. She told us ahead of time that she would have no information for us for 3 to 5 days. I stayed out of work for 10 days. If I had to, I could have gone back after 5 days. I was really glad I didn't have to. Did not require pain medication at all. Tomorrow will come and you will do great. You will feel like you have moved forward in taking care of the cancer inside you. Take your time to heal, be gentle with yourself and prepare for the phase after surgery. I am doing radiation now. I had my 8th tx today. No chemo for me, I am so thankful. I would have done it if called for...but am so glad I didn't have to. Radiation isn't easy, but it's more of a head thing than a body thing. All in all I wish for you the ability to keep this whole breast cancer thing in perspective. We got it...we deal with it...then we shoot for living well after it. Peaceful certainty that you are doing what you need to do...try to sleep tonight...

  • RMlulu
    RMlulu Member Posts: 1,989
    edited January 2013

    dbm75

    Will be praying for you and sending healing thoughts. Waiting is the hardest and now you are moving forward to get it out and know your full dx.

    I will have Lump/SND 1/23 you're a week ahead of me in battle.

    You...we will be fine!

    Sleep peacefully...hugs

  • dbm75
    dbm75 Member Posts: 20
    edited January 2013

    Dear Yawls,



    Thanks so much for the reply! It's so nice to get a response, and so quickly. I've been reading these for so long, but now I'm glad I finally joined so I can actively participate. Yes, I was nervous, but recently have had almost a kind of calm settling over me now that I'm finally able to start the process....and to know that by tomorrow night at this time, the tumor will be out of me! It's like an alien, or some ugly foreign creature lurking in there that you just want out! It's good to hear that your experience wasn't bad - every "no big deal" story helps keep me more relaxed and less likely to be panicking tomorrow. Great news about finding your nodes were clean! That had to be a HUGE relief!

  • dbm75
    dbm75 Member Posts: 20
    edited January 2013

    Dear RMlulu



    You are where I was just last week. Prayers are with you, and I'll keep you posted on how it

    goes tomorrow! It's so nice to talk to people who are going through the same things and can put things in perspective!

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited January 2013

    dbm, we're glad you decided to join us and post leading up to your "coming out" party tomorrow. Best wishes, and please let us know how it goes!

    • Your Mods

  • juliaanna
    juliaanna Member Posts: 1,043
    edited January 2013

    Best wishes for an easy surgery and a boring recovery.

  • Yawls
    Yawls Member Posts: 39
    edited January 2013

    Dbm, I've been thinking about you today and am sure that things are going well for you. When you described your sense of calm, I had a déjà vue moment...I remember feeling exactly the same thing! To all the rest of you just beginning...from where I sit (4 months out from dx) the waiting phase at the beginning is the absolute worst time. From here on out you will be moving forward. No more standing still hopelessly waiting for information that always comes at its time, not ours! My best thoughts to you all!

  • kkuziel
    kkuziel Member Posts: 191
    edited January 2013

    I too am having a lumpectomy with a wire on a tumor less than a centimeter on January 18. I guess the one thing I'm realizing is although I've been stressing about the amount of time between diagnosis and surgery (just over a month) it seems to be the general timeline, if not longer. That's one thing I wish I had known before diagnosis, the waiting part. Very difficult and besides you, no one in the medical community thinks this is an emergency. I always thought once you're diagnosed you've got to move or it will be too late. That's a piece of the education I wish I had had before all this started. Good luck to dbm75 on your surgery. I hope I get your sense of calm in the next couple of days. I too am ready to get this thing out.

  • Belinda977
    Belinda977 Member Posts: 381
    edited January 2013

    Sending you healing vibes....I was SO relieved on lumpectomy day.  I just wanted it out. I wasn't really even scared.  Just knowing it was out was a huge relieve.  That wait for surgery is awlful.  

  • dbm75
    dbm75 Member Posts: 20
    edited January 2013

    Kkuziel,

    My thoughts and prayers are with you for your surgery on Friday. I think you, too, will feel a sense of calm when the day is finally here. The waiting will finally be almost over. The only waiting now is for the post-op pathology report to come back, which is very nerve racking, admittedly, but at least I'll finally have some answers and a plan. I was almost looking forward to my surgery this morning just because I knew that by the end of the day that THING would no longer be inside of me! I had my lumpectomy, wire localization and sentinel node biopsy today and I really do feel so much better! You are right, the waiting - and mine was over two months of waiting - freaked me out more than the upcoming surgery. I was so sure the little lump inside me was going to just explode and grow huge while all the testing was going on, and causing delays. But my docs assured me multiple times that they'd never have allowed the delays for testing (especially the BRCA test which was a 3 1/2 week wait) if it was a risk. They even told me to take my previously planned vacation over Christmas because it would absolutely not impact anything. So I did, and am glad because it kept my mind off everything for a while. The whole surgery experience was way less frightening than I thought it'd be. I had the wire localization first, in the imaging department. They numbed me for the wire localization, and it was no big deal. I felt the prick of the needle just like any little pinch, but the procedure wasn't painful, I watched it on the ultrasound screen as they were doing it. Didnt want to watch the actual procedure as they worked on my breast directly, of course, but it was definitely ok. They mammogrammed the breast once the wire was in and bandaged up, and while you could feel a bit of a squeeze, it didn't hurt. The area was still numb. Then they wheeled me to the nuclear medicine department to have the radioactive dye injected for the sentinel node biopsy. This was absolutely nowhere near as bad as I had heard! I had been more scared of that than the surgery itself! The hospital I went to gives you the emla cream externally (to numb your nipple and surrounding area for both procedures) and then mixes a lidocaine buffer in with the radioactive dye that is being injected. They inject it just outside the nipple and areola, not in it. And there was only one injection, not four, which feels like a little prick/pinch just like any injection, and it's over just like that. No burning at all. Had me massage it to get the dye moving, but no pain. I dont know if I was just lucky that my hospital does it this way or if most hospitals now add lidocaine to the radioactive blue dye to reduce the pain. It makes such a difference! I had twilight rather than a general for the lumpectomy and sentinel node biopsy, and I slept through the whole thing and woke up quickly and easily shortly after it was done. No side effects and no problem with the twilight. They gave me something for the pain in my IV immediately after I woke up, then sent me home with vicodin, which has worked so well I'm probably not resting as much as I should. Going to try going with just Tylenol tomorrow. Best of luck Friday! You will do well!

  • kkuziel
    kkuziel Member Posts: 191
    edited January 2013

    Dbm75. Thank you for the information on the prep. I've been going at this thing in a bit of a fog. I never think to ask my surgeon how things will happen. When I went for my biopsy (which is in the women center of the hospital I'm having surgery in) I found that to be a wonderful experience. I has the same tech and nurse for the entire thing - over three hours because they had trouble finding the tumor. They walked me through everything I'll be having the wire done in that same facility. Then I guess off to the dye injection, which I've asked nothing about, so your info is most helpful. I don't know if I'll be completely under or in twilight (another question I didn't ask). I feel like I'm being swept along with the tide. My surgeon just wants me to relax (he didn't see me at my best as I was shipped to him as soon as I was discharged from another hospital -90 miles away- after a failed surgery attempt the day after Christmas) I was not only freaked out about the delay, but I was completely out of it because of being under for nearly three hours.

    His biggest concern has been my panic Oveer this whole thing. Feels the cancer is a small issue compared to my overall well being. He's probably very right.



    I'm glad everything has gone well for you. Wishing you the best on your test results. Thank you so much for the reassurance. I hope to find that calm you acquired prior to surgery. Regardless I can't wait to have it done.

  • RMlulu
    RMlulu Member Posts: 1,989
    edited January 2013

    Yeah! You have faced it head on and bring encouragement to those of us waiting. Thank you for the good report. Praying for your path reports you are doing great...(hugs)

  • kkuziel
    kkuziel Member Posts: 191
    edited January 2013

    Just got off the phone with a nurse friend of mine who found it odd that I hadn't gotten a call yet from the hospital for registration. She encouraged me to call my surgeon. Thank goodness I did. He has me scheduled for January 18, but the hospital had me for the 25th. Thank goodness his office straightened it all out and I'm still on for the 18th. The "comedy" of errors still continues. I hope this is just the bad part before I get good news.

  • Yawls
    Yawls Member Posts: 39
    edited January 2013

    Dbm, iam so glad things went well for you. Your description will make it easier for the next ladies up to bat! Hooray for you...now whatever the path report, you will deal with it make a plan and then live the rest of your life! So revel in the no pain body. It will take a day or two for the twilight meds to leave your body. For me it was the first time in years my knees didn't ache! That's me always looking for that silver lining...rest up, and get ready!

  • AK1971
    AK1971 Member Posts: 19
    edited January 2013

    Hello everyone,

    I had lumpectomy on Jan 16, 2013. The day before I got a call from the hospital that I need to come for the surgery at 5:45am. That night we got snow here... Driving was bad...lol. So, my doctor came late and I didn't see her at all... When I woke up the doctor was gone to another surgery. However, she did spoke with my fiancé...the surgery went well and only one node was removed... The follow up appointment is on January 28.... I hope the pathology reports are good.

    Now I have a little swelling under arm...but feeling good. The lumpectomy incision looks like a scratch... The doctor did a great job.

    Good luck to everyone!

  • kkuziel
    kkuziel Member Posts: 191
    edited January 2013

    Hi all, had my lumpectomy on January 18 and all went well. The prep before was exactly as some of you described. Shots were uncomfortable, but very doable. Took three lymph nodes - negative. Surgeon was very positive about how things went. Had my follow up appointment Thursday, but test results aren't in. So I don't know about the margins, and the surgeon didn't take chemo off the table as we didn't have the hormone info either. So I'm freaking out a bit about that. Kind of thought with negative nodes I'd have dodged that bullet. Have an appointment with the oncologist this Thursday. Guess them I'll know more. I really hate this part. Surgery and recovery was a breeze, compared to this waiting.

  • RMlulu
    RMlulu Member Posts: 1,989
    edited January 2013

    The wait... Thanks to those that posted their lump experience-helped. Mine was 1/23 BS took 5 nodes I had another area of interest on MRI.

    Got my fingers crossed kkuziel for you & my othe surgery sisters.

    We got our c out! We are moving forward!

  • dbm75
    dbm75 Member Posts: 20
    edited January 2013

    Ak1971, kkuziel, and RMlulu, so glad you are done with the surgeries, and hang in there, the waiting is tough I know! But at least the tumor's are OUT, and that's a good feeling! I just got my path report, and it was all good news for the most part, thank God! Only scary parts were the grade of the tumor, which is a 2 (shouldn't complain, I know), and the surprise finding of DCIS along with my IDC, which I hadn't expected since I was diagnosed prior to surgery with only IDC. Now, I realize that DCIS is the least concerning of the cancers, and it may well have been part of my original IDC tumor itself since the path report lists it as "associated with the IDC", and gives no separate size or dimensions for it. And from what I've read, most IDC's start as DCIS. So it may be that this is what my existing IDC came from, and so is part of it, and not a new spot. But it makes me a bit nervous, hoping that theres not more hidden in there, tho the DCIS margins were clean. May be that I'll explore the more aggressive 7 week/full breast rads instead of the partial breast one-week rads they've talked about. Or even chemo if my Oncotype test comes back with a middle or high range score. So we'll see, I have my MO appt 2/8, waiting for Oncotype test and then we'll figure out treatment and I can ask for translations for all the stuff on my path report. Good luck to all of you, and please keep us posted, am interested in hearing how you all are doing!

  • pacools
    pacools Member Posts: 53
    edited January 2013

    You are all so very informative that is such a big help to us waiting for our surgeries. It sounds like we have lots to celebrate and be thankful for. 

  • AK1971
    AK1971 Member Posts: 19
    edited January 2013

    Hello all,

    I got my pathology report yesterday. Dbm75...I was reading your post ...my results are very similar to yours. The grade of my tumor is 2 as well, all margins were clean and no cancer in lymph nodes (thank God). However, next to the original tumor (which was 7 mm) they found another one 3 mm which was sitting right next to it... On the report it says DCIS. I asked the doctor what if there are a few more of these tiny tumors... She said even if there is more...by doing the radiation treatment all of them should be gone. I really hope there are no more. Also, I signed the authorization form for the oncotype test...I hope for the lower score...don't really want to have chemo. Yes, the waiting period is so bad...back in December when I was diagnosed I start getting panics attacks ...was really difficult time...it was my daughter's birthday, holidays...I tried my best not to show them to my kids. This cancer experience... changed so much in my life...all the things which I thought were important...they are not important anymore. I see things different...

    Good luck to all of you!!

    PS. I have MO appointment on feb 7...will be back here for updates. Hugs. :)

  • RMlulu
    RMlulu Member Posts: 1,989
    edited January 2013

    Yes dbm75 our c is out! Yeah

    I'm doing a happy dance my margins&nodes are all clear :))

    AK1971 your report reads like mine. IDC 7mm then presurgery MRI found a 3 mm at 2 o'clock and enhancement marching forward from original ugh. Breath. Had consult to review.

    Now healing & gearing up for next step on this journey. ((Hugs))

  • kkuziel
    kkuziel Member Posts: 191
    edited January 2013

    Have an appointment with an oncologist on Thursday. I had hoped that the oncotype test would just be an automatic. I never talked to my surgeon about it, just assumed it would be done. Now I see that some are saying they had to give permission for it to be done. I really don't want to wait yet again. Is it a usual protocal to have this test done - or do you have to request it? Another thing I didn't know.



    AK1971: consider asking your doctor for a low dose prescription for anti anxiety medication. I was given 0.125 mg of Xanex, and although I've never taken anything like this before I found it most helpful. I take it when I feel a panic attack coming on. Often days go by without needing it and I've never taken more than one dose a day. it could likely be all in my head that such a low dose can make me feel better, but i figure if it helps why not.

  • AK1971
    AK1971 Member Posts: 19
    edited January 2013

    My MO appointment was re-scheduled to Feb 14... They called me yesterday and said that the oncotype test results will get to them in 2 weeks... :(

    Kkuziel... Yes, I was taking xanex as well...it helped...big time.

    I was wondering...my tumor is hormone positive...will it be beneficial to remove ovaries...since they are the main source? Any thoughts?

  • dbm75
    dbm75 Member Posts: 20
    edited February 2013

    AK1971, RMlulu, and kkuziel,



    We all seem to be on a similar schedule AND it definitely sounds like we all have very similar stats: small 7mm grade 2 tumor, clean margins, node negative, hormone positive, Her2 negative. Saw my radiation oncologist the other day, and have my medical oncologist appt. scheduled for next Friday, the 8th. Like you, AK1971, I haven't heard anything on my Oncotype test results yet, and if they aren't back before the 8th, I'll have to reschedule my MO appointment, too. I've heard they take a while, just like the BRCA results did. And I did make sure to mention the Oncotype test to my BS, kkuziel, just in case she hadn't ordered it, but she had. So my radiation oncologist recommended whole breast radiation for a 33 day cycle (5 days/week) rather than the more localized, one-week, internal radiation option because of the DCIS found with my IDC tumor when they did the lumpectomy. Made me wonder if I should have had a mastectomy, what with the finding of this DCIS, but my RO (and my breast surgeon) both insisted that the lumpectomy was all I needed because the radiation would kill any other miniscule DCIS cells that might be hiding in there. And, with highly positive hormone receptors, she told me I'll also get Arimidex (since I'm post-menopausal). So that furthers my comfort level in going with just a lumpectomy instead of the whole mastectomy thing. Now, I'm just praying that my Oncotype score is low so I don't need chemo!! Tho if its high, no question, I'll do chemo. The toughest question will be what to do if it's in the intermediate range!!! Decisions, decisions....I've never been good at making them, so hope I don't have to! And I too have used Xanax to help me sleep. It does make a difference. My nurse navigator recommended it when I told her I wasn't sleeping well. The days are easier than the nights because I'm busy during the days, so it's easier to keep distracted.

    Oh, and pacools, I grew up right near you, in Bloomfield Hills, MI, though I've lived in the Chicago area forever now. I have family in Royal Oak, Birmingham, and Bingham Farms.

  • kkuziel
    kkuziel Member Posts: 191
    edited February 2013

    I too am waiting on my oncotype score. My MO said he would be very surprised if it didin't come back as a low score, but nevous all the same. Met with RO on thursday with recommendation for 33 treatments. My tumor contained DCIS as well, and because that needs a bigger margin than actual cancer, I need to have anothe surgery on feb. 22. Need 1.5mm more margin. So I have that to "look forward" to. I'll also be doing some type of hormone treatment, although I don't know what at this point. All in all I guess things came back every good, just nervous about the oncotype test and a second surgery.

  • RMlulu
    RMlulu Member Posts: 1,989
    edited February 2013

    Kkuziel,

    Hang in there...all will be good. You have clear nodes & they're being protective in your care.

    Will be praying for you & sending calm positive thoughts your way ((hugs))



    I saw all my team this week. RO wants a 2nd MRI because she thought the 1st was an over read, but path report found 2 tumors. On 2/28 2nd MRI & consult with RO on 3/5. If good on to rads if not biopsy and more surgery :(( gonna get c out of here!

    Oh this roller coaster. I booked it back to the TX hill country & told everyone this is a fun play zone. So no c talk or thinking until return to CA.



    I may be MIA, but I will be holding you all close in my thoughts :))

  • mouse62
    mouse62 Member Posts: 5
    edited February 2013

    Yes the waiting for results is the worse.  I too had lumpectomy and needle biopsy in 2011.

    My results were that they removed it all and then i had to wait over a month for a second opinion as they sent it out to toronto to make sure it was ok.  this allowed me not to have radiation(for now) but i had to have a mamogram every three months for a year. Now they will keep an eye on me for the next five.

    they de-listed my fat augmentation surgery and said it was no longer covered as it ws cosmetic.  I appealed it and was granted an appeal meeting this May.  Ohip reversed the decision and granted me my surgery fully covered as per code R152.  It was a long and stressful fight but I did it to help the next woman in line.  Please don't give up.

    Best of luck to all. A cancer survivor in recovery.l

    Mouse62

  • dbm75
    dbm75 Member Posts: 20
    edited February 2013

    Well I got my Oncotype score back and it was a 15, technically in the low zone, thank God, but the higher end of it. So I saw two MO's for two opinions, both told me with no hesitation, no chemo. We talked about the pros and cons and they both said the benefits just didn't outweigh the risks. My 8 or 9% chance of distance recurrance (determined by Oncotype score and adjuvent!online) said chemo would only reduce that by 2-3%, and the risks with longterm SE's of chemo were greater than that %. So on to rads I go. I have my planning session tomorrow, then it'll take a week or so for them to be ready for a "dress rehearsal", then I will start my 33 sessions. So I' figuring late Feb/early March. Then on to Arimidex. Do most people start the hormone therapy after rads or during? I've read of both here, and tbh, am wondering why I should wait for two months till this radiation is done to start the Arimidex. I want that extra kicker in my system to be doing its job systemically while the rads are doing theirs locally. But maybe it would be too much abuse to your body all at once. God knows Im not looking forward to all the potential SE's! Something I shall ask my doc, for sure.

  • RMlulu
    RMlulu Member Posts: 1,989
    edited February 2013

    Yeah dbm75!

    Happy that you're moving on to rads. Praying for an easy 33 sessions- follow the rad thread. There is a lot of good helpful info to help prepare. My MO says AI after rads too. Must be one step at a time to monitor how our bodies are adapting. Breathe 1 step at a time :))

  • kkuziel
    kkuziel Member Posts: 191
    edited February 2013

    Dbm75 - you and I have similar situations. Except I have another surgery scheduled for Friday to get a bigger margin around the DCIS part of my cancer. I too was told without hesitation that I did not need chemo. With radiation I'm up to 90% and then add hormone therapy for five years it takes me to 95%. My MO told me he would start my hormone therapy after radiation (I also need 33 treatments). He said that hormone therapy during radiation can sometimes "freeze" cancer cells and that radiation doesn't effect them as well. I haven't read much on this as I feel pretty confident with his years of experience.



    I don't know what hormone medication I'll be taking. I'm nearly through menopause (have been going without periods for four to five months at a time this past year) I imagine I'll experience more menopause type symptoms, but that should be doable.



    Best of luck with your radiation treatments. The biggest concern I have is my drive, which is about 3 hours round trip. I'm getting some company lined up for the drive so I don't have to go every day alone.

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