I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited December 2012

    lewing -- What a terrific idea to have the wedding at the foodbank warehouse, and to have the soup kitchen chef do the catering!  You helped both charities and I bet all your guests truly appreciated it -- both the facility/food and the assistance to such sadly needed endeavours.

    Love is lovelier, the second time aroundKiss.  Okay now, everybody sing!!!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2012

    Lewings~The picture is beautiful. Great photography, and I love your hair!!!



    I wish you a long, long, healthy, joyful, prosperous, life together.



    Blessings

    Paula

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited December 2012

    sotaria,

    One of the core beliefs of Hindu religions is Ahimsa, or non harm.  This includes all living beings, including animals as well as people.  Just as pedophiles are not true Christians, so rapists are not true Hindus. 

    Westboro Baptist Church sincerely believe that homosexuality is causing the downfall of America.  Their focus on Leviticus to the exclusion of the New Testament may be reprehensible but in their point of view it is Biblical.  They seem to have missed Matthew 7: 1-6 (KJV)

  • ananda8
    ananda8 Member Posts: 2,755
    edited December 2012

    Congratulations, lewing!!!  Long life and Happiness.

  • GatorGal
    GatorGal Member Posts: 2,550
    edited December 2012

    Can't wait to see more pictures of the wedding! Beautiful. Oh, Kam, I had no idea things were THAT bad in India. I would have nightmares for years having seen and heard what you experienced. So sad.

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited December 2012

    Glenna - I think you mean Yorkiemom.  I did not experience the burgeoning public outrage, though violence against women was probably as prevalent, just a darker secret during that time period.  I was only fearful for myself once, and that was traveling at night on a road known for robberies, though in general, I felt very safe there.

    Linda - I love the sepia photo; very classy.  Can't wait for more pictures.

  • Moderators
    Moderators Member Posts: 25,912
    edited December 2012

    A lovely photo, lewing, congratulations!

    And welcome home, yorkiemom.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited December 2012

    On second thoughts, Linda, the sideburns look rather 1870s - adding to the timelessness.

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited December 2012

    Happy New Year girls!!! We're staying in and will probably go to bed early  - old fuddy duddies

  • GatorGal
    GatorGal Member Posts: 2,550
    edited December 2012

    Kam, I did mean yorkiemom. Thanks for the correction. Happy new year to all my BCO friends. We're staying in, too, and having a few of our friends in. Here at chincoteague for a nice long weekend and everything is low key here!

  • Alyson
    Alyson Member Posts: 4,308
    edited December 2012

    2013 is here, hope its a good one!

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited December 2012

    Alyson, Happy New Year in Auckland and to everyone else as the day progresses.

  • pupmom
    pupmom Member Posts: 5,068
    edited December 2012

    Linda, gorgeous picture! Congrats!! 

    It's really sad that in India cows are revered and never intentionally harmed, but girls and women are routinely abused. Something is seriously wrong with THAT picture. Cry

  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited December 2012

    Lewing:  a beautiful picture!  Wishing you a long and happy marriage.  Mazel tov!

    On India: there can be such a gap between a religious goal and the reality. Paradox abound everywhere. 

    With all the terrible things happening there now, i still remember when India was the first large country to have a femaie prime minister. 

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited December 2012

    Yorkiemom, I didn't respond last night about your India experience, and the horrific rape that has sparked so much (long, long overdue) outrage.  Mainly that's because I just can't find the right words.  It made me think back to an Indian friend of mine from grad school, who was very passionate about the condition of women in India -- she talked about the prevalence of "Eve teasing" on buses -- the term used for sexual harassment, which made it sound almost light-hearted and innocent.  This was 25+ years ago, so I sort of assumed things had changed.  I was chagrinned to read in the NYT this morning that even as the violence has escalated, it's still called "Eve teasing" and treated accordingly by the police.  Just horrible.  I hope the demonstrators stay organized and keep pressing for change.

    Lindasa, we chose the food bank as a wedding venue because my sister-in-law used to work there, and knew their second floor space was used for events (their annual fundraising dinner, etc.); she suggested it almost jokingly, but it was absolutely perfect for us.  Among other things, it gave a natural focus for all the people who wanted to give us gifts (when we've been divesting ourselves of stuff in order to consolidate two households in a Brooklyn apartment) . . . we just asked everyone to donate to Gleaners instead.  And I think the Capuchin soup kitchen is definitely going to get some additional catering income from guests who just couldn't believe their food.

    Oh, music!  Since I missed out on the whole music conversation earlier, here's a sampling from our playlist.  We walked in to Yo La Tengo, "Our Way to Fall" and struck up Stevie Wonder "Signed, Sealed, Delivered" after our kiss.  First dance was Claudia Brant's version of "No Me Doy Por Vencido," which led into Jimmy Cliff ("You Can Get It If You Really Want") and the Supremes ("You Can't Hurry Love") . . . waiting a long time for the right person was kind of a theme. 

    Time to wake up sleepy-headed DD and hit the road. 

    Linda

    (Forgot to add - the gorgeous photograph wasn't by our official wedding photographer, but by a friend who brought his camera and took a ton of great shots.  I'll share a few more but don't want to overload things.  Can't wait to see the "official" pictures, which I know are going to include some, shall we say, unusual ones.)

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2012

    Linda - adding to Alexandria's Mazel Tov - so, so lovely to see your picture.  Heartwarming.

    Notself - thank you for all your positive posts about Hinduism, India.  My favorite "teaching" from a Hindu friend is the idea of putting anything one says thru 3 Filters b4 speaking: " Is it the truth, is it necessary, is it kind."  I was entranced for the reverence for all life I experienced in my days in India ( years ago) - how every few paces there would be a "puja" - of honor, respect.  Still can see the orange color, marigolds, small bowl offerings.  My thoughts of women in India are also influenced by my admiration for SEWA ( Self Employed Women's Association), Ela Bhatt, and all the women working to enable, empower women, working to change a culture.  And for the woman who stood up years ago in Beijing and said "Women's rights are human rights" - prayers for her in many religions, hoping her illness is not serious, easily healed, and she gets the rest she deserves b4 2016 Wink

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited December 2012

    I hope this is not true.......

    http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/exclusive-hillary-clinton-brain-crisis

    Some people have been really nasty about her concussion.  A blot clot is bad enough!

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2012

    Blue~I agree with you. Thanks for posting.

    Though I differ from Hillary politically, I believe she's an extremely intelligent woman. I think she works very hard, long hours for a nation she loves.

    I have been praying for her full recovery.



    Happy New Year to All

    Paula

  • Wabbit
    Wabbit Member Posts: 1,592
    edited December 2012

    I've been worried about Hillary too ... hope that it is not something even more serious.  The tabloid media of course will be speculating about everything they can think of. 

    The problem IMO is not those who 'follow' a religion ... it is those who 'use' their particular religion as an excuse to do evil and blame it on 'God says'.

    Men taking rape seriously has always been and continues to be a huge problem.  Look at all the hoopla over the stupid comments our last election cycle.  The only thing I can figure is that too many men see it as 'sex' instead of the violent attack it is. 

    Lewing ... wishing you and Eric a lifetime of happiness!  What a beautiful picture!     

  • lassie11
    lassie11 Member Posts: 1,500
    edited December 2012

    Having just had a blood clot caused by a fall, and being the same age as Hillary Clinton, I can say that a blood clot is problem enough to justify being in the hospital for a few days. I too hope that is "all" that she has.

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited December 2012

    Just heard on the news that blood clots resulting from concussions would NOT be treated with blood thinners so the press release from Hilary's office "contradictory." (Newssource's word.). The hospital has yet to release any statement on her condition. Gads, let's hope that Enquirer story isn't true.

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited December 2012

    Kam -- If the blood clot was in the brain area, then anti-coagulants would not be used.  There is speculation that the blood clot is in the deep vein in the leg, but as Lassie has said, the clot definitely requires hospitalization.

    Hilary is a strong and healthy woman.  I'm sure she'll recover from this, have a nice long rest which turns out to be too boring for her, and, to quote the Terminator, she'll "be back"!

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited December 2012

    From CNN:

    Clots can form inside veins or arteries or even the heart, the NIH says. "A blockage in the vein will usually cause fluid buildup and swelling," the NIH website says. Among the possible threats: Sometimes, a "clot can break loose and travel from one location in the body to another."

    Sometimes, it can "partly or completely block" blood flow in a blood vessel. If a clot blocks an artery, it may "prevent oxygen from reaching the tissues in that area," the NIH says.

    If not "treated promptly, it can lead to tissue damage or death."

    Dr. Sanjay Gupta, CNN chief medical correspondent, says the fact that Clinton's clot is being treated with anticoagulants may offer a clue to the clot's location.

    Anticoagulants are drugs that prevent clots from forming in the heart veins and arteries, according to the American Heart Association. Anticoagulants also prevent clots from growing larger.

    "I think it's very unlikely this is a blood clot on top of the brain or around the brain specifically, because you just don't treat blood clots on the brain that way," Gupta said. "That would worsen the bleeding."

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited December 2012

    All so interesting to hear about Yorkie's India visit.  I too am incredulous and hate that anyone, anywhere would be subjected to such unspeakable horrors.  While I certainly would not expect to get any agreement on my views, it is my sensation that when all life began, a certain number of souls decided that they were as good as if not better than God and chose not to live with his direction. This makes more sense to me than anything else as to why these despicable events continue to occur. I think it becomes very involved to get past these people who have poor judgement and huge lack of conscience if any....but with lots or work/pressure it can be done.  I hope it will be in time.

    Blue....too funy.  Wendel trying to be dominant, knowing he is the interloper.  It will all come out in the wash and be fine.  Lilah already knows what Wendel doesn't and can take the blase' attitude. 

    I as well agree pretty much about Hillary.  She has done a fantastic job and does love this country so very much.  I hope the Enquirer's health reports are not accurate and that she successfully recovers from her medical issues.

    I also concur with the picture.....sepia pictures for the most part have such beautiful depth and often just defy description which is what I wish for you and Eric, Linda.  A life full of depth with each other, so much so that it almost defies description....a total love affair for life.

    Hope the New Year is a new beginning for all that is good, loving, strong, caring, and can erase so many of the deep divides we are feeling, everywhere.  Much feeling, love, warmth, serenity and healing to all.

    Jackie

  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited December 2012

    Happy New Year to everyone.  wishing all my friends a wonderful year to come. (Wanted to get my wish in before DD gets home and hogs my computer.)

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited December 2012

    Linda - yes, if she had the flu, then a concussion, she probably has been resting a lot, so a deep vein blood clot is a possibility too.  Now a doctor is talking about all of her airline flights she has taken, increasing her risk (can that result in a latent blood clot as he is implying? hmm).

    Alex - I like the picture of your DD hogging your computer.  I miss the idea of not having children (finally, when it's too late!).  

  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited December 2012

    Kam, to your point - can airline flights lead to blood clots - yes, definitely!  That's why you'll read that you should move your legs often, and they used to say get up and walk around but since 9/11 they don't mention that as much.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited December 2012

    What RR says - absolutely. People can die from clots stemming from long flights. Having said that Hillary would most likely have been able to walk about on a plane and have very ample room. It may be that the clot was there before the concussion. But as Sec. of State she has evidently led a sedentary existence and put on loads of weight, which might explain some of this. She also does not have good color.

    Blue, you mentioned her husband. Clinton looks so thin and frail these days. He has lost weight, maybe following doctor's orders, but he looks so shrunken. A picture of that couple 4 years ago and a picture now must be a worrisome study in contrasts. Neither looks well at all.

    The best prescription for them may be the old fashioned: go to the mountains or the sea, get some fresh air, sun and exercise.

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited December 2012

    I have no question to airline flight leading to blood clots, but with such latency?  Certainly Hilary hasn't flown for a few weeks now.

    Bill has not looked good since his heart attack, in my opinion, but his losing weight (which is good), exacerbates his outward appearance of frality, for whatever reasons that is being caused by.  Per the documentary "Heart Attack," his dietary treatments (Vegan) have actually reversed his atherosclerosis.

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited December 2012

    Athena -- Bill Clinton has become a vegetarian.  I think he only looks frail because his skin hasn't shrunk too!  I recall a beautiful volunteer friend who developed a heart condition and her doctor told her to lose 30 lbs, because he felt she was overweight.  So she did -- and she looked darn near 30 years older!

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