I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited December 2012

    Tamoxifen was a relative breeze for me. Arimidex was another story but since I stopped in late September I feel a little less crippled every day. Faslodex gives me horrendous pain for the two days following injection but then the pain tapers off throughout the month...until the next dose!



    Odd how we all react so very differently to the same drugs, isn't it?



    I had rads treatments 13 and 14 today and so far so good. My skin's getting pink and I just started getting nerve "zaps" down my shoulder and chest, no doubt from surgery and radiation damage to the brachial plexus. Now I know why the Vulcan nerve pinch works so well!



    BTW, today is Day 5 of "The UN Invented Medicare to Enslave Us All" and none of my doctors have dumped me. However, Medicare failed to eradicate my enormous chin zit. What a disappointment.



    Off to the barn to visit my favorite man. See y'all later!



    E

  • gardengumby
    gardengumby Member Posts: 7,305
    edited December 2012

    Sun, I haven't had either of those.  I'll try to remember to ask to get them at my next blood letting (in January).

    My docs are really great about getting me hard copies, plus they post them to my online account (which I love, as the doctors actually get to see what the other one(s) are doing to me...)

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited December 2012

    Linda - you give me great hope...you had joint pain (wrists) for a year and then it went away?  I do seem to be going through phases with Exemestane...first the hot flashes & insomnia (mostly gone), then the hand numbness (less so now), and now the finger stiffness and trigger finger and shoulder pain.  Oh, and now my hands swell up while walking. At the rate I'm going, at 4 months, I should not be able to move.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited December 2012

    Hey, E, happy that rads is going ok so far (considering it's rads - and GUV'MINT rads, to boot). Enjoy your hoofed friend.

    Yes, our reaction to drugs is so very different. That's why I am so militant about not telling other people what to take or not to take based on personal experience (or anything other than a medical licence, for that matter).

  • gardengumby
    gardengumby Member Posts: 7,305
    edited December 2012

    Kam - what is exemastane?  Is that a generic form of something else?  I don't recognize it.

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited December 2012

    Dropping by to say hi....lots to do to get ready for daughter and sil's arrival.  Can't wait.  Interesting about the se's.  Maybe Arimidex  ( which really hasn't bothered me much elsewise ) is the culprit for my general lack of patience.  I can get pretty sharp tongued when I am really not expecting it, or when Dh seems to be not paying attention -- which happens a lot.  Oh....and I do have the chubby tummy too.  I have to admit that nothing else seems to be a problem, but I do hate to get irritated and mad far easier than I ever did before.  Nice to think maybe it is ( not that its too much better ) somewhat drug induced and therefore capable of some time or other fading away.  Hope in does not become habit in the mean time.

    Anyway....gotta run.  See you all later.

    Jackie

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited December 2012

    Well, Enjoyful and Athena are absolutely right.  Everyone reacts differently; just as menopause is a hot killer for some, others only notice the empty drawer where tampons used to live!

    I like to think that it takes some time (and for some, a LONG time) for one's body to get used to lack of estrogen.  Given that estrogen really does affect every body function, the lack of it can be a severe jolt to the system.  I actually forgot about my two trigger fingers (!) but digits returned to normal after about a year on Femara.

    We spend our lives trading off -- "If I do this, then I can't do that" -- so we just simply do what we, individually, think we should do.  For those whose SEs are intolerable, they choose to maintain the status quo.  Life certainly doesn't offer any guarantees of any kind, regardless of what we do.

    That said, Enjoyful, so happy to hear that you're getting through rads so well, so far!  I bet horsie has a lot to do with it!  Tally ho!

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited December 2012

    Exemestane is the generic form of Poison...Cry  Aromasin.   There are actually 2 generics for this particular poison.  It may be in my head, but my poison of preference is manufactured by Roxanne.  The other one, without a name, has a sugar coating (as all poisons should have).  I'm so resistent to trying another AI, as what if the next one is even worse?  I'm in to slow elimnation. 

    To whoever that made the suggestion - maybe if my MO writes an Rx, I can get the rea; thing without paying the real price - Thank you.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited December 2012

    Lindasa, I love your post. Yes, it's ultimately all about negotiating and compromising with ourselves and making decisions that take into account our very unique goals, priorities, medical histories and bodies. These decisions are so very difficult and individual. Many women have no SEs on TAM and may welcome today's news.

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited December 2012

    Linda - you give me hope...thank you again and it comes on a day that I almost feel normal, for the first time, after a year of this or that.  Had a beautiful walk in the woods with the bestest of friends and I even enjoyed the uphills; every single one of them.

    E- I've been focusing on your hilarious Medicare comments, I didn't see the rad stuff.  Are you using the magic cream?  I never had radiation, but a friend was telling me about this "stuff" that really helped protect her skin. I can find out what it is, if you need.....xxo

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited December 2012

    Thank you, Kam! Someone has to be on the front lines of the nanny-state socialist Hitlerian plot that is Medicare. I am taking one for the team.



    Yes, please find details on this magic cream! I've been using Miaderm, which came highly recommended by ladies here and on Amazon. I don't think anything will fully protect my skin since that's the radiation's primary focus. When my neck looks like crispy bacon, my rad onc will consider her job done.



    KrispyE

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited December 2012

    Working on it....xxo

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited December 2012
  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited December 2012

    E- a grateful nation salutes you.

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited December 2012

    Morning Medicare Report -



    I sit in a waiting room floored with depression-inducing fabric. The walls loom, as walls do, but in a particularly vomitous shade of mustardly peach. My two companions, also Medicare slaves, grumble about their interminable wait. Through a break in the wall I see another waiting room, one where the patients roam free, with a sky-blue ceiling so high they can't brush their fingertips across its cerulean surface. A room where the floors are carpeted in an amazing green and plush carpet. Sunlight-like light pours from the unseen light fixtures. That must be the waiting room of the Others, those with private health insurance. The nurses call it "outside" but I know better.

  • 208sandy
    208sandy Member Posts: 2,610
    edited December 2012

    E - you're killing me!Laughing

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited December 2012

    "Walls of mustardly peach"?  Oh, the horrors of it all.  Stay strong, E!

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited December 2012

    The nurses just gave me a $5 gift card for the hospital's coffee shop to apologize for the wait. What fresh hell is this???

  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited December 2012

    Kam~Is that the Egyptian Magic Cream you're talking about? I've seen that online. I've been looking for something really good for starting rads down the line. Do you know if they don't like you to use aloe Vera gel? That's the best thing I've ever found for burning skin.



    Blessings

    Paula

  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited December 2012

    E - ROFLMAO

    Edited to add E -

  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited December 2012

    Soteria, check with your radiologist to see what they say.  My sister recently went through rads and her radiologist would only let her use one certain cream, which did work pretty well.  I don't know what the cream was but I can ask her if you'd like.

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited December 2012

    E, it can't be outside.  The sky has fallen.  Chicken little said so!  When I was going for rads they had a large fish tank for us to stare at while we waited.  I know I'm nuts, but did they need to confirm it?

  • IllinoisLady
    IllinoisLady Member Posts: 29,082
    edited December 2012

    It been a long time since my rads, but seems at the time I heard a lot about Emu oil.  Don't know if that was used during or after or both.  my RO did tell me to use clear Aloe Vera gel and it worked fine for me up til' the boosts.....but that was just 7 days so even though I did turn into a little bit of a crispy critter....using the gel still it healed was fine.

    Jackie

    p.s.  E---it should all be in a book and it would be a best seller......from cancer blogs alone.

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited December 2012

    I lost this thread for a bit and come back to Turner, Gainsborough and Gaudi, all childhood favorites. Thanks!

  • Momine
    Momine Member Posts: 7,859
    edited December 2012

    On medicare, I was reminded today why I love my arch-conservative, to the right of Djengis Khan DH. He bursts out over lunch that when right-wingers (mind you, he is one) claim that healthcare is socialism they are performing an auto-erotic act, after all, says the old man, it was excessive military spending that brought down the USSR, not healthcare.

    After once again pointing out that Eisenhower wasn't exactly a commie, he suggested that we take half our military budget and divert it to building infrastructure. Tell Lockheed and all the other nice boys in the military-industrial complex to build management systems for the electricity grid, healthcare etc and figure out a way to get some broadband to the people. He was all fired up today.

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited December 2012

    E - DON'T DRINK THE COFFEE!!!! It is DRUGGED, to keep you a compliant Medicare-herded sheep! They will implant the chip in you while you are drugged! The rads are just to activate and fine-tune the chip, and the coffee is the drug that leaves you susceptible to their mind-control.



    Wow, Blue, a fish tank. All I got to look at was a faded picture on the ceiling when I was getting my zaps. (They put all their money into machines and not much into decorating, although they have since completely remodeled rads oncology at my hospital).



    Momine, what a hoot! Love your old man! He is a living, breathing illustration of common-sense conservatism!



    L

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited December 2012

    Momine,



    Your husband speaks logic rather than spout right-wing propaganda. I salute him for his independent thinking!

  • Enjoyful
    Enjoyful Member Posts: 3,591
    edited December 2012

    HL, you silly person, I know better than to accept more government handouts even if it is "just" coffee.



    Fish tank? Pffft....I only get to look at the Others' waiting room from behind a glass panel. I guess Medicare recipients aren't good enough to breathe Their air.

  • pip57
    pip57 Member Posts: 12,401
    edited December 2012

    Yep...E you definitely have a socialist medical system now.  No fish tanks my Canadian radiation centre either.  We can't even see the 'others' in their beautiful waiting rooms.  

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited December 2012

    "The walls loom, as walls do"

    Lovely sentence E - I sent you (and Soteria) an email.

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