What is my role as a boyfriend?

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Hello everyone and thank you for listening.

Just to give you some backround, we are involved in a long distance relationship, which obviously in itself is difficult.  When she was diagnosed, she felt it was her problem not mine and she would be holding me back in life.  I told her I loved her and would be by her side any way i could. She had a double mastectomy, i visited numerous times during her chemo and the visits were great.  We talked about our future but were waiting for the test results to really discuss those plans.  The results were good and i started asking questions about jobs there, moving there, etc. I asked lots of them and she felt pressured and pushed away. I was frustrated because I did not understand, the relationship was tense and we argued. I lost sight of what she was still going through and I know I was wrong. We talked and i apologized for putting my needs ahead of hers and i thought we were moving forward. A few days later she said something in the relationship is missing. She again told me it was not my problem, that i was missing out on life, that she did not want to hurt me, her feelings were not as strong as mine and that i should date if i met someone else.I told her I loved her, sorry for my behavior and lets slow things down.She is still going thru radiation and has a lot on her plate and very very stressed. We never agreed to anything and kind of let it pass. I  have backed off and am there when she needs me to be. She calls me daily and we talk for a little bit, but that is the extent of our communication.  Typically, if a woman said all those things to me, those would be my walking papers. 

I know i messed up but what is my role here? Were her comments said because she is terrified of the future or is she done and giving me my walking papers? Do i respect her wishes and agree to what she asked for the betterment of her health or ignore it and continue to be there when needed?  Did she ask me that for reassurance that I would be there? We still talk and laugh , but no doubt she has put space between us.  I have never been through what she is going through and have no clue what she really feels or needs right now. Part of me says she does not want this but is afraid of losing me.  The other part says she still wants this and is giving me all she can right now.  I do not want to be the source of any further stress for her but I am so confused. 

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  • Moiralf
    Moiralf Member Posts: 1,056
    edited December 2012

    Oh boy I hope someone with wiser words come along soon and helps out.

    I've been married 28 years so not really in the early relationship scene.

    But you have been open enough to come here asking for help and that is great in itself.

    My very own opinion is to continue giving her support and friendship and let time decide if you have a future together. People will say that this journey changes how we think and act and maybe your girlfriend will chose to make big changes and maybe she won't. She will be over whelmed with what she is going though now and for sometime into the future. Remember even when treatment is finished the whole deal is not over. That can be very difficult for women to deal with too. She will need your friendship and support and no pressure right now.

    All the questions of what she means is up in the air right now, even she might not know. Take it slowly and see what happens. She rings and talks to you and she needs that. Part of being in a relationship is being  there when needed.

    I'm not sure if that helps but I wanted to reach out and offer what little advice I had.

    Really hope you get some more help from others with more experience than me. 

    I signed a contract with my husband for better or worse and I'm holding him to it. LOL

    Moira

  • itsjustme10
    itsjustme10 Member Posts: 796
    edited December 2012

    That's a tough situation to be in.   You don't say how long you've been together, and how well you knew each other prior to her diagnosis, but it sounds like you are in the unenviable position to figure out whether she's pushing you away because she'd rather do that than have you break up with her, or because her feeling have either changed or were never that strong to begin with.  

    I don't think anyone can really give you too much advice, since we don't know either of you.  You just have to figure out your feelings, and whether she means what she's saying at face value, or not.  The answer could be any of the options or a combination.  She could be reassessing everyone and everything in her life, or she could be scared.  And you're the only one in the position to try and even take a guess.

    I hope re-reading what you wrote helps you make your decision.  Good luck to you. :)

  • manysunshine
    manysunshine Member Posts: 14
    edited December 2012

    Sorry you're in this difficult situation.

    I can kind of relate to your feelings, but from the opposite end.  My boyfriend and I are also in a long distance relationship.  We were together until my mom was diagnosed with MBC and I came home to care for her.  I have to say, being in such a traumatic situation dramatically changes the way I feel about many things, including the relationship.  Breast cancer has turned my world upside down and completely overwhelmed me; sometimes I feel like my relationship is on the bottom of my priority list. I love my boyfriend but most of the time, he doesn't truly understand what I am going through -- the constant worry, fatigue, resentment, pain and loneliness that comes with caregiving, even though I am sure he is worried as well.  Frankly, I don't expect him to understand because most people don't until they have been through it, so I don't blame him.  But sometimes, his lack of understanding and support becomes a source of frustration which I try not to think about.  Similar to your girlfriend, I am tempted to tell my boyfriend to move on if he wants to, to date if he meets someone.  That is not because I don't love him but because I love very much.  I plan to care for my mom for as long as it takes, even that means putting my own life on the back burner for possibly a very long time.  I don't want my sorrow to seep into his life, and to put his love life on hold, so I'd like to give him permission to move on if he likes.  Of course everyone thinks differently, and in situations as devastating as being hit by cancer, there are A LOT of mixed feelings and emotions become very fragile.  Maybe you could have a heart to heart conversation with her to figure out her feelings? Maybe even she herself is confused about her own feelings! My opinion is: just be there for your girlfriend.  An email, a quick hello, a quick encouragement like " I'm here for you, be strong!"  means so much.  Going through breast cancer is an incredibly lonely journey, and by simply offering your presence will help.  Of course, you can "respect her wishes" if you feel that is the best thing to do.

  • stride
    stride Member Posts: 470
    edited December 2012

    "Part of me says she does not want this but is afraid of losing me.  The other part says she still wants this and is giving me all she can right now."

    I do not have a lot to say, except maybe you should trust your instincts on those two sentences above. She might be feeling both ways--different ways at different times. Somebody could make millions writing a relationship book that tells people how to deal with ambivalent partners, especially those in crisis. Hopefully things will become a little clearer with time.

  • LizLemon
    LizLemon Member Posts: 540
    edited December 2012

    First - I think you sound like a wonderfully supportive boyfriend. It kind of sounds like to me, that she is trying to push you away (even though she loves you), precisely because she does love you, and sees her condition as a burden that she wants to save you from.

    When I was dx'd with cancer the first time, my husband and I had been married 4 years, and I told him that he should think about leaving because I, "didn't want to ruin the rest of his life". He thought I was crazy, and perhaps I was! Breast cancer turns absolutely everything upside down. During my initial surgery, chemo and radiation, I couldn't imagine how he would find me attractive in any way. It really does a number on one's self esteem. I felt like I was dragging him down, and I loved him so much, SO much, that I didn't want that for him.

    I think you've got to play this by ear, and play this out. You obviously love this woman. And, I don't think you did anything 'wrong' at all. With time, and her continued healing, you will find the answer to this riddle...my heart goes out to you.

    LL

  • mdg
    mdg Member Posts: 3,571
    edited December 2012

    I don't know that I have advice, but I can tell you when I was diagnosed I felt like I was ruining my husband and son's life.  I told my husband "you didn't sign up for this....you don't have to stick around".  I was so emotionally a mess.  I loved my husband and still do but felt so much guilt for putting him and our young son through my cancer mess.  THere are so many emotions that go on in your head when you are dealing with BC and most of the thoughts are things you keep to yourself because they are too horrible to say outloud.  At least that is what I experienced.   I hope you can give her time so you can both really evaluate if you have a future together.  Right now I am sure she is very unsure of her future and can't even think about it.  You sound like a very supportive boyfriend.  I hope you can work this out since you love her so much.  Good luck!

  • softness1
    softness1 Member Posts: 217
    edited December 2012

    I too feel like she may love u and don't want to burden u. I'm going thru something similar. My BF has been supportive & a constant during this. I feel like he's putting his life on hold. He's taking off work to help me with my surgery next week. I know when the chemo begins its really going to be tough. I've known him over 10 yrs and we've started dating 3 yrs ago. How can I expect him to go through this with me. We're in our early 40"s. I'm assuming our intimacy will take a hit when I'm tired, sick or in pain. No going out. A hit to sex life, will he be attracted to me?? It makes me feel guilty

  • st2695
    st2695 Member Posts: 2
    edited December 2012

    I truly appreciate the advice and opinions offered by everyone.  The perspectives from those the disease has inflicted personally to the caregivers means more than you know. We all need each other and again, thank you. 

  • keithw
    keithw Member Posts: 47
    edited December 2012

    My love told me "You didn't sign on for this" too.

    I told her "You are right. I signed on for everything, better or worse"

    You have to follow your heart, plain and simple. I waited more than twenty years to be with my lady, once she lost 300 lbs of ass-hole ex-husband.

    There's no power in heaven, hell or on earth that could drive me away from her.

    If you feel like that, then you have your answer.

  • Linda-Ranching-in-the-mTns
    Linda-Ranching-in-the-mTns Member Posts: 319
    edited December 2012

    I, too, was in a long distance relationship -- when my dx came in. We met on E-Harmony, and had been writing for 8 months -- and I had been visiting for about a week of each month from Jan - May. I really liked him -- he is a great guy. But we were going slow... his is a very deliberate/careful person, and didn't want to promise 'love' until he really knew how he felt. (We are both in our mid-fifties).

    I was scheduled to go on a trip with him -- to meet his parents (in their 90's) when I had my first troubling mammogram. I told my doc's nurse about my dilemma - and she told me that HER vote was that I should take the trip and postpone the biopsy by 10 days. (The surgeon was pushing me hard to get the biopsy immediately). The nurse was SO right, and I ended up firing that pushy surgeon.

    It was a great trip, and when we got me back to Kansas City, Les was there to take me to the biopsy. Then he bundled me up and whisked me off to his ranch in NM to await the pathology. 

    It was cancer. I was freaking, because this is the best man I have ever been with. It seems so unfair that I would FINALLY, after all these years, meet a truly wonderful man, and then get cancer. My fear from the dx was losing the man -- not losing my life. (I was deep in denial, but I knew what was important to me -- and it was salvaging the relationship if at all possible). 

    Boy -- did he step up to the plate. He said that if I wanted to tackle this out here with him, then he wanted me to come. 

    I told him (just like everyone else has said) that I had to go throught this -- but he didn't. He said he knew he didn't have to -- but he wanted to. That he loved me and wanted to help in anyway he could.

    Well -- I took him up on his offer -- and he has been SO super. Our relationship has grown exponentially since the dx. Like in a kid's game of Shoots and Ladders -- Cancer catapulted our relationship forward.

    My suggestion is that you just love her and see what happens.

    Give 100% of what you feel like giving -- and not a drop more. If you expect nothing from her, then you won't be disappointed... and she won't feel pressured.

    If it is reasonable for you to move to her town, if you could find work -- if you like the town, and could see yourself there -- then why not move there for 6 months and see what happens? It would certainly show her that you are serious about being there for her... and give you both the chance to get to know each other more deeply.

    But you would have to take that leap knowing that you might only end up as friends... and that would have to be OK with you, or you are setting yourself up to be disappointed and that would poision your relationship. 

    So -- how does that feel -- to think about making the leap of faith and moving to her town? I'm talking about you getting your own place -- this isn't about you having it easy by moving in with her. That would be pressuring her. You would need to be fully self-sufficient in the new town -- depend on her for NOTHING. 

    Whatever your gut is telling you about this suggestion is probably very revealing.

    Best of luck -- the one thing I can say for sure is that cancer has brough Les and I much closer. I am more honest with him (as in completely -- right down to letting him help me bathe after the surgery -- something 'modesty' would never have allowed before). He has seen me at my most vulnerable -- and he has sure shown me that I picked the best partner I could have to take the journey with. As odd as it sounds -- Cancer does not have to be a negative in the relationship. It can be a pathway to a much deeper shared human experience. 

    Good luck to you both.

    Linda

  • Skittle
    Skittle Member Posts: 400
    edited December 2012

    You have a lot of advice to weigh... but keep in mind bc alters a woman's entire world--and what you are feeling is the tsunami from that shock.  If you look at this mess as post traumatic stress, that might help perspective a little.  Best of luck to you, your sweet girl, and your healing.  Be kind to yourself, as well.  It isn't easy on hearts or souls.  Love to you both.

  • Shrek4
    Shrek4 Member Posts: 1,822
    edited March 2013

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