I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange
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Golly...didn't expect it but "slanted" news and info turns up everywhere doesn't it ????? Loving the education here. So much I never had the chance to discover and experience.
Hi jezza. great thread here.
Belinda...the only politics allowed now is that having to do with health-care. I enjoyed the learning......and the viewpoints and therefore the ability to look at things in many different ways, but guess maybe it is not considered a fact of life here and we must move on.
This is my tgis -- thank god it's Saturday, day. Have lots of things planned and hoping to get a bit more organized that I have been for some time. No sun today but warmth has returned.....un-be livable but I think it will get close to 70 today.....and we had freezing temps before....global warming -- oh yes.
Hope you all have a fantastic day. I'll be checking back in when I take another break.
Jackie
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Yeah, snow. Still very gently falling, powder, crunches underfoot, don't know if I'll be as cheerful about it in a few months, but the First Real Snowfall is always lovely.
Speaking of WONDERFUL, for all my friends who love furry creatures, and Joyful Celebrations.....Happy Holidays
http://mashable.com/2012/11/29/bo-white-house-christmas/#
Belinda - we're no longer "political" but we're allowed to be "patriotic" - welcome back!
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As scarce as truth is, the supply has always been in excess of the demand.-- Josh Billings
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Ya'll prompted me to "waste" several hours last night going from page to page (person to person) on Wikipedia reading the life and times of the Tudors. It was fun and informational. Enjoyed the fictional books on the Bolyn Girls, not accurate but a fun read. Learned quite a bit last night ...
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Sunflowers.....loved that video....thanks.
Jackie
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Lindasa - Awww!
Belinda - I love the van gogh and the Serat. I've seen the original Serat. Enormus and beautiful.
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If you like Scottish history, I recommend Barbara Erskine's books. Lady of Hay, Child of the Phoenix and Kingdom of Shadows. Read them Looooooooooong ago, but they mixed fiction with history.
I don't read much anymore but am looking to download some of her other books for my ipod, so I can listen to them. I hate Parkinson's. Used to read 2 or 3 books a week.
Welcome Jezza!
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What Alexandria said - on both counts!
I think the ban on non health related politics is rather half hearted. We didn't completely get the memo here, but I think we read more of it than Next Door!

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They are still processing the election results. It will take time for them to adjust.
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Busy day planned. DDs coming over in a bit. We're going to our favourite baking goods store to get supplies for our cookie bakeout! LOL! Turkey chili in the crockpot for dinner. Hopefully, they will have time to help me put up the tree and my decorations. If not Ray and I will do it tomorrow. Heading for the shower!
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Turkey chilli just reminded of Gail Collins' latest column.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/12/01/opinion/collins-mitts-oval-office-moment.html?ref=opinion
She is currently my favorite columnist.
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Speaking of food...anyone here have a Vitamix? I just ordered one in hopes of making lots of Kale Smoothies and Anti-cancer soups. I would and do like to eat this way (Vegan), but it seems so many vegan recipes are helped out by smoothing and creaming. I would also like to make veggie burgers sans soy - there are only two on the market that I know of...Amy's California and Amy's Sonoma (they are excellent, but expensive).
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Speaking of elections being over, has anyone else noticed the IRONY of Willard Romney getting 47.3% of the vote? Really, as Dave Barry would say, "you can't make this stuff up."
Alexandria - I love Collins - also Ruth Marcus at WashPost.
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I read a lot of books about Henry VIII and his wives back in my high school days. You all have made me want to go back and read it all again ... I've forgotten a lot about who was who.
Nice art work posted. I tend to like the still life, abstract and simple stuff better but do appreciate the talent and beauty of fine art.
On the other end of the art spectrum ... anybody else have some really silly, even tacky, pictures that they own and love? I'll 'out' myself first. I would never ever part with this (even though I hide it in my bathroom). Any other true confessions? Or do I need to just slink off quietly?
In my own defense I stole this photo from Etsy ... and somebody else had bought it. So I'm not the only one at least.
Happy Saturday!
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Jezza, yes, do warn your husband. They have the wrong sisterr of Henry VIII married to Charles Brandon, they have her dying of something she didn't die of, and it is terribly aggravating for history buffs. Also, they have Henry VIII as young and handsome when he was pursuing Anne Boleyn and he ..er ..wasn't. And he only got older and fatter with each wife. The series on Masterpiece Theater in the 1970s -- Six Wives of Henry VIII -- was much better. The actor who played Henry was Keith Mitchell and did a great job.
I was a Tudor buff, too, as well as a Plantangenet fan. And another author who does a fabulous job on that era is Alison Weir. She wrote one of my favorite books, "Mistress of the Monarchy," about Katherine Swynford (whose life was fictionalized in the book "Katherine," by Anya Seton). Katherine Swynford was John of Gaunt's mistress and then wife, and her children went on to marry into royal families -- she was the ancestress of many European monarchs.
Love history!
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Wow, I'm going to have to read more on the Tudors, fascinating stuff here!
Jezza, welcome.
Belinda, love the Seurat and Van Gogh - two more of my favorites.
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"They have the wrong sisterr of Henry VIII married to Charles Brandon"
Oh, Libby, it's worse than that. They have combined both sisters (Mary and Margaret) into one character named Margaret. IRL, Margaret married the King of Scotland, and Mary wed the elderly King of France, and later, Henry's lifelong pal, Charles Brandon. In the series, this single sister marries (and murders!) the elderly King of Portugal and then Brandon. When the series first aired, there was some buzz about the producers having been afraid we poor feeble-minded viewers would have gotten "confused" by two "Princess Mary"s - Henry's sister and daughter. But they didn't have a problem with the multitude of characters named Thomas (More, Cromwell, Wolsey, Cranmer, Tallis, Boleyn, Culpeper, Howard, Wyatt)!
On a forum I participate on where we talk about TV, we dubbed this combined sister "Marygret".

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Markets done - got the usual fish, fudge and bananas but also bought some natural pain relief cream - looks good - it's got magnesium, Glucosamine, MSM and lots of oils in it. The lady put some on my knee while I was there and it does feel a bit better. Apparently it takes time to build up and you end up not having to use it so often - anything is worth trying.
Been up since 4:30 (golf again) so I'm starting to feel like a morning nap.
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Morning suzie!!
You girls are turning me off THe Tudors DVD. Should have bought the Six Wives one!
Reading back a few pages I noticed Athena's posts on Jackson Pollock. There was such a fuss in the early 70s when his painting "Blue Poles' was bought for our National Gallery here in Melbourne, Australia. The painting was so expensive the purchase had to be approved by our the Prime Minister. Of course it has increased in value untold amounts since then.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-08-28/stroke-of-genius-the-legacy-of-blue-poles/4228672
Hmmm...maybe I won't tell hubby about the inaccuracies in The Tudors and see what he picks up!..
jezza
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Morning Jezza - glad you found us here.
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Welcome to Jezza!
Linda, I love yout real life art. We just spent the two weeks in Florida watching a mother duck and her chicks. We first saw them a day or two after they hatched. Ther were nine of them. There were only four left yesterday. Apparently that is a normal survival rate for ducklings. -
Yep, Riley -- I knew that. I ended up not watching the show because it was so historically inaccurate that they might as well have just made up a whole new story. I'm a purist, I'm afraid -- if you are going to make a TV show about historical figures, get it right, dammit! I was particularly aggravated that they got Mary and Margaret wrong because I have always been interested in Mary. And Charles Brandon was a pig!
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Jezza, don't be turned off. Watche them all. It sends you to researching and makes it all that much more fun and interesting. Until the Tudors series I didn't get the religious consequences of what was going on and it sent me surfing and learning.
Ann of a Thousand days is another contribution. Fluffy stuff but more period drama to indulge in. Betty Davis did a turn as Elizabeth too as I recall.
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Yes chickadee...I know what you mean. I always look up the real story after reading or watching a film based on fact. We recently saw "Argo" and I couldn't wait to get home and onto google...lol
As some of you mentioned I was diagnosed a long time ago...no forums, no internet...I used to spend my time at the library reading out of date text books and ringing my Drs with more questions. We really do live in a great time now with all this info at our fingertips don't we.
jezza
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I'm a purist too. What Hollywood does to history is sinful.
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Good evening, all.
I enjoy history only when it's pureed, sweetened, and garnished with fresh fruit. That's why I loved "Katherine" by Anya Seton but fall asleep over actual history. As someone famously put it - "stinky! Pooah!"
And now for my Really Real Authentic Medicare Report, Day One:
I am most pleased and confused to report that the sky did NOT fall, at least during daylight hours. No Medicare Government Agents came to the door, possibly because they're bestowing government gifts to Obama voters.
NONE of my doctors went out of business, kicked me to the curb, or convened a death panel on my behalf.
Perhaps they're waiting until Monday.
Peaceful evening, all!
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I am fascinated by history but have not done any research into it since school. One of my many possible majors was history.
I went to the Farmer's Market today and feel like I scored big time. The coffee roaster had no decaf left, so he gave me the half pound or so he had to use for samples, for free So my DH bought some tea, bu that was only three dollars. Then I went to get meat and she didn't have everything I wanted so I waited for her husband to bring more and she charged me a little less because I had to wait.
There isn't much except meat and baked goods there in the winter but I go for the meat.
It was so cute. A little girl with a red shirt, bright purple pants and sparkly shoes was sitting at a table coloring. Sitting next to her was a little Mennonite girl in her long plain pink dress and prayer cap. if only we could all get along as well with people who are different.
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Ha! Enjoyful! You're so funny!
I am loving the conversation about the Tudors. I watched the BBC series, "The 6 Wives of Henry VII" many years ago on PBS. I've read many, many books by Jean Plaidy and Philippa Gregory on the subject. I visited London over 30 years ago and remember seeing Anne Boleyn's execution spot in the Tower of London.
The whole subject fascinates me.
Mary
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Philippa Gregory! *spits* That woman wouldn't know the truth about history if it bit her in the ass. IMHO, of course.

When I went to the Tower, I served as "tour guide" for my Mom, even though it was the first time I'd actually been there as well. I loved both chapels - the one tucked away in the White Tower, and the small building where Anne Boleyn is buried under the floor. I knew where she was, but couldn't go up to it, as it's roped off. But it felt very peaceful there.
It was also neat (not sure if that's the right word) to see the spot where they found two children's bodies buried under a staircase some two centuries after the "Princes in the Tower" disappeared in 1483. We'll never know for sure if those bones are them, but they've been reburied in Westminster Abbey under the assumption that they were the 12 yr-old Edward V and his 9 yr-old brother Richard, Duke of York. We'll also never know exactly what happened to them, but I tend to think they were indeed murdered by their uncle who grabbed the throne, Richard III.
Me in front of the Salt Tower (rumored to be haunted, btw) at the Tower of London with this strong, silent fella I met there. LOL. This was between chemo and surgery, so the hat was very necessary.

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