I say yes, you say no, OR People are Strange

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  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited November 2012

    There's been a number of reports recently about Costco.  Yes, Virginia, it is possible to make a profit and offer your employees a living wage and health insurance.  I have never shopped at Costco, but I'm planning to go now.

  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited November 2012

    Mary - what you said, exactly!  Also, it's just an excuse since the governor of that state has cut funding and student enrollment has dropped. I think a lot will be blamed on Obamacare, but primarily, what you said.  It's a never ending game of excuses, when the real problem is Americans don't pay enough taxes for what they expect.

    Love Costco Alexandria..primarily for how they treat their employees. I'm fearful the CEO has set himself up to be the next whipping boy, though, based on a few recent events. I'll probably double down on my shopping trips there.

  • crazy4carrots
    crazy4carrots Member Posts: 5,324
    edited November 2012

    I hesitated for several years to get a Costco card because I preferred to patronize Canadian retailers.  However, I finally gave in  (but I will never step foot in a Walmart except to use the bathroom!).  I've never met a non-smiling face among Costco employees, and now that I know the story of how Costco came about, and how the co-owners recognize the value of their employees, I'm very happy to shop there.  BUT -- have you ever noticed that when you have a LOT of something on your shelf, you tend to use more than you really need?Undecided

  • lewing
    lewing Member Posts: 1,288
    edited November 2012

    No, I've never noticed that. 

    (burp)

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  • QuinnCat
    QuinnCat Member Posts: 3,456
    edited November 2012

    Maybe buy more than I really need (at the time).

  • Bren-2007
    Bren-2007 Member Posts: 6,241
    edited November 2012

    Good Afternoon Ladies,

    I've been busy editing reports and then doing some chores.  Mr. Tim should be home in about an hour.  I think he actually has the entire weekend off ... yay! Of course when he called he wanted to know what was for dinner.  I just laughed.  I'll make a roast tomorrow though.

    Really enjoying all the art work.  I am a fan of Pollock.  I also like Sorolla ... I'll see if I can find some pictures of his work.

    Just talked to my friend Brenda and I'm going down to see her next Thursday.  Will help her decorate her tree and bring up her decorations from the basement.  She's have a lot of trouble walking and will see the orthopedic oncologist next week.

    No snow here ... it's 60 degrees today.  The only thing good about the snow is the exercise I get when I have to shovel it.

    Hope everyone has a great weekend.

    hugs,

    Bren

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited November 2012

    I love Costco. I often call it Price Club, which is what it was here before they merged and changed the name to Costco. I love the big sizes and I love "stocking up," even though I don't need to do that anymore. They have inexpensive gasoline, too! It makes me even happier to know they treat their employees well and that Wall Street and WalMart are pi$$ed at the co-owners for paying their employees decent wages and health benefits!



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  • Anonymous
    Anonymous Member Posts: 1,376
    edited November 2012

    I've been a FAN of Costco for years - especially when I found out how CHEAP, seriously CHEAP, their Pharmacy was.  I don't even need a co-pay, tho the prescription for Arimidex isput thru my Medicare Part D, it's cheaper for me to pay CASH than the co-pays.  While several well know name pharmacies ( Walgrren, CVS, etc) are still charging a huge amount for generic Arimidex ( "it's an expensive generic" is what I'm told, and I giggle) Costco has REDUCED the cost from the $20. a month to about $15. a month ( or less) - and they always are SO KIND about getting me TEVA, cuz I want a USA based generic. 

    Hope all the Costco shoppers have already tried the Almond Butter - huge jar, delicious.

  • RetiredLibby
    RetiredLibby Member Posts: 1,992
    edited November 2012

    The Kaiser Family Foundation has a very interesting couple of papers on the people who would benefit from Medicaid expansion. These are real people with real health conditions who don't have insurance. Here is the link to the jump page for the papers, and below that is the descriptor from the jump page. I am limited in what I can post from my iPad, so I can't post good pull quotes - but it is well worth clicking through.



    http://www.kff.org/medicaid/8385.cfm



    Faces of the Medicaid Expansion: Experiences and Profiles of Uninsured Adults Who Could Gain Coverage



    "These two papers provide insight into how state decisions to expand Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act are likely to impact people. Based on focus groups and interviews conducted in Cincinnati, Houston, Las Vegas and Tampa with uninsured adults who could be eligible for the Medicaid expansion in 2014, these papers highlight the experiences of uninsured adults and the significant health and financial consequences of being uninsured, which sometimes impact their ability to work and their daily lives and relationships. The papers include a brief on key themes from the focus groups and ten individual profiles of selected focus group participants. They provide a human dimension of what is at stake in state decisions to expand Medicaid under the ACA."



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  • River_Rat
    River_Rat Member Posts: 1,724
    edited November 2012

    I enjoyed that site where you could hover your cursor over that One Nation painting - somebody has a sense of humor.  After our art interlude yesterday I got to playing around at the National Gallery of Art website, lots of fun:

    http://www.nga.gov/collection/index.shtm

  • alexandria58
    alexandria58 Member Posts: 1,588
    edited November 2012

    Changing the subject, I'm on page 97 of my novel and if my cat will stop lying on the computer keys, maybe I can reach 100 by the end of the working day.  That'll be between 1/3 and 1/4 towards the goal of a finished novel by the middle of February. 

  • suzieq60
    suzieq60 Member Posts: 6,059
    edited November 2012

    Costco is opening up over here - they are in a battle with another shopping centre regarding the store they want to open just north of my city, but the government are on their side, so hopefully we'll have one nearby in the future.

    Up early, but didn't go for a ride - bad Susie - shopping to do this morning. Markets tomorrow - can't wait.

    I've got ChrissyB flying in on Thursday and we're having a get together over the weekend with some other Aussie girls - not a lot of us but enough. I so wish we had money so I could come over to Niagara next year.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited November 2012

    Here's more Pollock, whose harshest critics referred to him as "Jack the Dripper"

    I wish I could get a larger image - his canvases have to be big. I love this one:

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited November 2012

    Before I return to the 19th century for some Hudson River delight, here is Picasso's Guernica - considered one of the best protest painting about World War II even though it was not initially conceived that way:

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited November 2012

    Albert Bierstadt of the Hudson River school:

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited November 2012

    Coast Scene, Mount Desert by Frederick Edwin Church. This is one of the best known paintings from that movement:

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited November 2012

    Yikes, that was huge. Anyway, it reminds me of one of my favorite landscape artists  - William Turner (English). Here is his masterpiece Shipwreck of the Minotaur. He predates the impressionists but does it almost better, IMO:

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited November 2012

    Beautiful Athena!

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited December 2012

    Let's go from lanscape to...still life. The Frenchman Chardin is the master I most admire. Did I mention that I LOVE fine art? Can't paint a circle if you put a gun to my head.... Here is Chardin, who always makes me think of Greuze, who is coming up....

    Even though Jean Baptiste Chardin comes about a century after Vermeer and colleagues, he is so similar in his masterful use of shadows and light.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited November 2012

    And, really, aside from the fact that he was also a Frenchman who painted in the 18th century, Greuze could not have been more different from his compatriot. He painted royalty and the aristocracy and all the lewd and lascivious aspects of life in a way that had not been done before. Here is The Village Betrothal:

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited December 2012

    Oh sweet litty - waving at her Blue! I am delighted it is Friday, actually. Very tired this week.

    Speaking of portaits and royalty, Goya is the master in this regard in 17th century Spain. The Spanish empire is over-extended and in decline, and this masterpiece of the rather flaccid royal family of King Carlos IV, conveys this reality:

  • gardengumby
    gardengumby Member Posts: 7,305
    edited November 2012

    I'm going to return to the Costco conversation for just a moment.  I just refilled my prescription for letrozole.  Last refill I paid $36 for a three month supply (I don't use my insurance, as then I can only get a month's worth, and it drives me crazy to have to refill that often).  Anyway, I just refilled, and it was $18 for three months.

    I am a HUGE Costco fan, and have been a member since shortly after they opened.  (I don't know if y'all know they originated here in Seattle.  I pass store #1 every day on my commute to work).  I told my husband I could live anywhere, as long as it's within 30 miles of a Costco.  We do 90% of our shopping there, and fill-in at Fred Meyers (owned by Krogers) or Trader Joes.

    Costco is not unionized, but there is no need for them to be, as the company has ALWAYS treated their employees very well indeed.  I know a few people who work there, and they are quite happy to be Costco employees.  There was a bit of a fuss here in Washington over the last year, as Costco threw a LOT of money at an issue to get liquor out of state run stores and into regular grocery stores (and Costco, of course).  A number of people were very angry (mostly the liquor store employees who were losing their jobs - which was sad)  Costco offered those employees first interview rights for new positions that were needed to handle the change in business, but some were so angry that they weren't interested - especially so since they were losing union jobs.  But one person I know did make the move from the state store to Costco, and she at least says that she's happier working at Costco - who knows for sure, as many of us are of the "make lemonade" mindset - but at least she is not actively unhappy.  A lot of people who shop at Costco in other states expected the prices to plummet, which of course did not happen, as most of the cost is taxes, and Washington has one of (or possible THE) highest taxes on liquor in the country.

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited December 2012

    So does anyone recall me saying I am an eggghead who looks into artistic value and emotion in a very general way in art, but not really at mundane questions of what a painting subject is thinking?

    This painting of Mary Magdalen is the exception. When I see this painting in the flesh, I cannot stare away from that face. Whoever thought that sin, remorse and redemption could produce so much depth and beauty at the same time.....

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited December 2012

    And finally, (for now....I will be back - wicked laugh), who can talk about religion, desperation, expressionism (or mannerism, as the 16th-17 century artistic and architectural form is now referred to) and decay in art without mentioning the "Spanish" painter El Greco. Of Greek origin, he spent his entire career in Spain. Here is The Opening of the Fifth Seal of the Apocalypse:

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited November 2012

    One more. Here is the little frame sitting at the Louvre which Lindasa and I were talking about. Truly, here one has to say to oneself, what was she thinking?

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited November 2012

    Final one....promise, promise...here is a larger reproduction of the Pollock painting on the previous page. It is called Autumn Rhythm:

  • gardengumby
    gardengumby Member Posts: 7,305
    edited November 2012

    Athena - I think you should teach an art appreciation course - maybe right here on BCO!!!  :)

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited November 2012

    Lots of theories Athena, including that it might be a self-portrait of Da Vinci!

  • 1Athena1
    1Athena1 Member Posts: 6,696
    edited November 2012

    Its gender has always been in doubt.

  • bluedahlia
    bluedahlia Member Posts: 6,944
    edited November 2012

    This brought tears to my eyes when I saw it up close.

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