2012 Running Thread
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CLC - you're on!
Met with my OT yesterday.....more exercises, and she wants me to wear my compression tops when I run. I was wearing them for long runs, but I guess now I'll wear them for shorter runs too.
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I am so happy to find this group!
I was just diagnosed less than 2 weeks ago with Non-Invasive DCIS and am having a Lumpectomy on December 6th. Just met with a surgeon last week and he said after surgery I will go through 6 weeks of Radiation about a month after the Lumpectomy and then take Tamoxifen after that. This is all based on if the DCIS is only in the milk duct and is not found in the surrounding breast tissue.
I started running in April ... I love it and don't want to give it up!! Since September, I have been training for my first half marathon with a friend using the Galloway Run/Walk Program. I registered mid-October for the Run with Donna Half Marathon in Jacksonville, FL which is on February 17, 2013. Ironically, the marathon is a fundraiser for Breast Cancer Research and To Empower Women Living with Breast Cancer. It never entered my mind that I was going to be doing this race as a Breast Cancer Survivor. I am so thankful that the DCIS was found in my routine mammogram and is the earliest of stages. If all goes as planned, I should be either finished or close to being finished with the Radiation. I would love to be able to do the Run/Walk program still for the half marathon ... it is 3 minutes of running 1 minute of walking and our average time is between 11 & 11:30 minute miles with the run/walk long distance days. Otherwise we run between 8:45 & 9:15 minute miles on the 3-5 mile runs. Time isn't that important, but just being able to do the half marathon itself is.
Is it realistic to still have this as a goal or should I lower my expectations due to the Surgery/Radiation? Has fatique/pain been effecting your running at all during treatment or after treatment? As long as I can move my legs, I am going to do the race ... I'm determined. I AM SO ENCOURAGED BY YOU ALL FROM WHAT I HAVE READ SO FAR ON THIS FORUM!! The nurse at the surgeon's office said that the majority are fatigued during radiation and she felt walking the race would be my only option ... I would love to prove her wrong. Family/Friends don't want me to push myself physically ... they want me to focus on healing but don't understand that this will help me to stay feeling better ... both mentally and physically.
I just ran my first race .. it was our local 5K Turkey Trot. This Saturday I am doing a 10 Mile Race ... wasn't planning on this one, but since it happeded to be the weekend before my surgery date, felt it would be good to do one long race before surgery/treatment so I would be able to compare the before with the after.
Would love thoughts on what to expect with the Lumpectomy, Radiation, and Tamoxifen while continuing to run/walk train for the half. If anyone else is doing the Run With Donna, would love to know that, too.
firstcall: 2013 calender ... please add me to the list for Run With Donna Fight to End Breast Cancer, Marathon, Half and Relay, Jacksonville, FL February 17, 2013.
Thank You For This Forum ... It's Exactly What I Needed At This Time ... Looking Forward To Getting To Know You All!
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To SharonLC: Your story is exactly the same as mine 10 years ago!!! DCIS, lumpectomy, radiation, Tamoxifen.
DON'T LET ANYONE DISCOURAGE YOU!!!! I know we are all different, but (thank God) I felt fine through all treatment. I was laid off from work at the time so that helped that if I was tired I could nap. My running routine was similar then to what it is now: 5:00 AM meet friends for an 8-miler, no matter the weather. Treatments or illness never caused me to miss a workout.
Then I would report at 8 AM for my radiation. All the health care workers were extremely kind but I would get irritated when they would help me up and down from the table, or say things like, "how are you feeling today, honey?" and I'm thinking, "Well, I'm a little stiff from this morning's run, and how many miles did YOU do this morning???"
Your goal is so totally realistic. You will prove that nurse wrong. Just remember to eat healthy and get your rest when you need to.
You are a strong athlete with a great attitude. Keep posting, I want to know how you do!
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SharonLC,
I agree with LuvLuLu that your goal is totally realistic. I wasn't training for anything in particular while I was doing my radiation, but I joined a Galloway group and was doing fairly long (up to about 13 mile) runs (walk 1 min/run 1 min) on the weekend and my usual 11 min mile short (4-5 mile) runs once or twice during the week. My biggest complaint with radiation was the annoying ink--but I finally got a 'tattoo' so they didn't have to put the ink all the way up to my neck (slight exaggeration). Anyway, they did include my nipple in the boost which meant I had to use body glide (the kind without sunscreen doesn't have zinc) or petroleum jelly and a little pad under my running bra. Other than that I really didn't have any issues. I felt sleepier than usual at night and would occasionally fall asleep pretty early and sleep through the night, but it didn't really feel like exhaustion to me, it was kinda nice to sleep so well after all the stress of the new diagnosis, treatment etc. If anything, I feel like I run better on tamoxifen (actually I think getting off the birth control pills helped me run a bit better), but that's probably all in my head. You'll do great!
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by the way, LuvLuLu,
why doesn't your signature reflect your diagnosis 10 years ago. I love seeing signatures of folks who are that far out. Just being nosey.
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SharonLC...I had a mastectomy for dcis and I didn't have radiation, so I cannot speak to what you can expect physically. But I can tell you that I can completely relate to the idea that being able to continue moving can only help maintain your sanity. It was the most important thing to me...to know that I'd be back to moving quickly...since that maintains my sanity. And when do you need that more than in the midst of a cancer diagnosis and treatment????? My advice is to continue to move, but listen to your body and allow yourself the space and time to back off if your body tells you to. You will avoid injury that way and will be able to ensure that the moving is helping you heal. Keep your awesome outlook and spirit...and you will be just fine...:)
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Goldlining - here are my times for half marathon
2009 2:20 Hr (Could have done it in 2 hr but was pacing a friend so I didn't even get out of breath, was efforthless)
Feb 2012 2:20 hr (I was running as fast as I could and the last 3 miles were agony with cramps)
Nov 2012 can't run more than a couple miles. Out of breath after a mile.
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zsterling, I know I guess I should have that as part of my signature, maybe I'll go back and correct that. I just put in the recent stuff . . .
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Thank you LuvLuLu, ZSterling and CLC for the encouragement and advice. EVERYONE that has been through this and are willing to help others along the way are AWESOME PEOPLE!!! Running has had such a positive impact on my life over the last 7 months ... dropped 30 pounds and am at my goal weight ... I feel like I'm in the best shape both physically and mentally since I've had my two daughters who are now 7 and 11. My PC left a message saying my bloodwork was the best she has ever seen about an hour before I got the call that I needed to go in for a biopsy and then the next day was diagnosed. To be honest, the only negative thought that entered my mind was having to give up running during all of this. I will try my best to listen to my body and eat healthy to ensure proper healing. Yes, running does clear my mind (especailly when the endorphins kick in on long ones) ... releasing life's stresses is especially important during a Cancer diagnosis. With God, Family & Friends, Encouragement & Support ... we will all get through this. I'll definitely keep posting!
I pray that you all are doing well and will have a great run (if you are able to)!! Have a wonderful day!
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C25K interrupted for about a month due to cancer effing crap........
Walked 1/4, ran 1 1/2, walked 1/4 today. Should I still try to do the Santa Shuffle this Saturday?
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Hey, Adey! I am sorry to hear that the cancer crap is not leaving you alone. If you have to walk part, most or all of the Shuffle, then you have to walk part, most or all of the Shuffle. I say go for it. We should all remember to be proud of our hard work, show it off, and accept that we may not be exactly where we hoped to be, but we are all still moving and working. When you walk or run across the finish, you will be an entire race ahead of where you would have been if you hadn't gone for it!
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Hi Adey, I agree 100% with CLC. You should go for it! You ran half the mileage of the race today ... being in a race is exciting and the momentum from race itself will help carry you through to the end. Don't feel bad if you have to walk some ... lots of people do who don't have cancer are walking. Participation will motivate and time is not important. Have fun doing the Santa Shuffle ... you will be proud of your accomplishment!
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Adey - if all you can do is shuffle in the Shuffle, then go ahead and shuffle with a swagger!
As others have said on this thread, you'll still beat every single person who never got off the couch that morning.
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Yay Adey, I'm pro-shuffle too. Back in June when I was not training, just a few km at a time, and that Niagara Falls WOmen's Half Marathon came along, I was going to skip it, but then I allowed myself to at least go pick up the loot bacg (there was WINE in it after all), and then I talked myself into running the first few km, and in the end, I finished the whole thing. The crowd excitement and motivation made up for it. My time was no hell, but I was faster than a lot of people even walking the back half. Go have fun and reward yourself with the event! Enough cancer crap, have some Adey time!
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Oh definitely Shuffle Adey! Love the swagger suggestion too :-)
So sorry that this C stuff is messing with you and your goals. Just look at how far you've come and give yourself kudos! You are rockin this recovery starting out like you did!! Hugs!! -
I did it! I did it! I did it! Not the Santa Shuffle (dh got the flu/cold/crud and I didn't want to fight downtown traffic and crowds on my own, wuss). But....... I did put on my Santa shirt, walk to the Prairie Path and proceed to run 3 miles without stopping, except to cross busy streets. Woot! Woot! Run = jog very slowly but I'll take it! (c:
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AAAAaaaw, Adey, congrats!!! It's a milestone!! You should feel great!! Now treat yourself to something nice and celebrate! It's onward and upward from here.
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Woot Adey!
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Fantastic, Adey!
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Way to go, Adey!
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I've registered for two upcoming races! Lots of work to do to get ready! Please add to the list:
Shamrock Shuffle, Lebanon NH - March 16, 2013 - first race after diagnosis and treatment!
Road to the Pogue, Woodstock, VT - May 11, 2013
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Did my 8 mile run this morning. It was nice out, in the 30's with a very light dusting of snow on the ground.
I hardly ever enter races anymore. I guess I get nervous, don't know why, I'm only competing with myself really . . .I did do the Boston Marathon way back in the 1990's and that was a blast, but after that it's just been a few 10K's, a couple of half marathons here and there, just local stuff. But I'm thinking I need a goal now, so maybe I'll register for a half in the spring.
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Great job Adey ... you accomplished your goal!!!! Couch to 5K is how I started running back in April ... Galloway's run/walk training programs are good too as a followup if you decide you want to do a longer distance.
Luvlulu ... you are a lot like me ... I compete against myself in my workouts even, always wanting to do better. I ran my second race on Saturday which was 10 miles, did much better than I expected myself to do ... the people cheering and being in a "race" itself made me push myself harder ... sore quads today ... but now I know what I am capable of doing before surgery/treatment ... hopefully I'll be able to do the same or better afterwards. Surgery on Thurday ... praying for clean margins.
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SharonLC,
I started running in Sept. 2011, was diagnosed 11/1/11 with IDC, did a lumpectomy & SNB 11/16, and was back to running and crosstraining boot camp within 2 wks. I had + margins and opted for BMX with tissue expanders 12/9, chemo, then radiation. I was able to run once healed from surgery, and during chemo and radiation. I did not experience fatigue during radiation and my skin tolerated it well. The running made me feel so much better and helped to keep my mood stable. I think your goal is reasonable - as long as you listen to your body and adjust as necessary.
I think you will prove the nurse at the surgeon's office wrong
LovesDogs
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SharonLC, I related to your pre-op race - I liked to "hide" my surgeries behind a run event. Looking forward to the race was so much better than dreading the upcoming procedure! Get back to walking as soon as you feel up to it. It was harder for me to get back from lumpectomy because the jiggling was sensitive. Much easier after mastectomy. But walk when you feel like it and ramp up as your body allows. Don't be surprised at a little slow-down (see my rant/whine a little bit up-thread) but I was ready to run much sooner than I had thought I would be. Being a runner (of any speed) is an asset going into all this crap, so cash in your rewards and get better as soon as you're up to it. Good luck!
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Hi all! I thought someone here might be able to answer a question for me. My BS highly recommended that I get an IV port (picc?) for chemo in my arm rather than in my chest. I had a BMX with immediate implants 3 weeks ago and he doesn't want a chest port potentially messing with my implants. Do any of you have thoughts or suggestions about the arm port vs. chest or side? I would love to get back to running once I'm long-enough post-op and if I feel strong enough while I'm on chemo. Did anyone find the arm port bothersome while exercising (running--or swimming)? Many thanks! And on another note, I love reading about all of your runs. I was diagnosed 8 days after my first half-marathon. I dream of the day I get to get back to running. Thanks to all of you and your fabulous posts, I know I will!
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Banksy,
I'm sorry I don't have info. about the chest vs arm - I had 4 rounds of chemo and opted to not have a port; lost 3 veins
It seems like the chest would be a better location and less bothersome. I assume your BS did the mastectomies, but did he/she also place the implants or was that done by a PS? If the PS did it, you might ask if they think it's an issue with the implants. You could always get a second opinion from a BS or general surgeon also.
Congrats on your half marathon!! And don't despair, you WILL get back to running. I ran throughout my chemo & rads when I felt well. It really helped.
LovesDogs
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Banksy -
I cannot help with the picc line; I had a petite power port and it worked like a charm. 4 AC and 12 weekly Taxols - I am thankful I went with the port.
I ran all through chemo and rads. I hope you will be back to running in no time. Listen to your body and make certain you give your body time to heal. -
Yay Adey!!!!
I opted not to have a port, figured I would try my first chemo and see how it went... figuring I could always go port after the first one if I couldn't tolerate it. I did fine and have NO regrets about skipping the port. My only experience with a PICC is that sometimes I have patients I care for who have them. I'm not a nurse or anything but the patients always seem comfortable/not overly restricted. Hope you get a better answer from someone who's had personal experience!
No upcoming races on the calendar and it feels weird. I have been keeping up with weekly long runs (6-10 miles) but little else...
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Morning, all . . .
Did my usual 8 mile run this morning. The temp was in the 20's - yesterday was in the 50's. My usual running partner is a little faster than me. She's also 6 years younger if that matters. But it's good for me to run with her, she pushes me. And what she does is get ahead of me on the hills, then she'll turn around and "tag up" to meet me so she still gets some speed in as well as a little extra distance so I don't feel guilty.
Well, this morning we had an even YOUNGER lady join us - and this one is literally 20 years my junior. I guess it's good for me because even though they were well ahead of me I did push my pace and finished strong. Problem is, I enjoy my nice leisurely pace. But I guess if this new one joins us once a week that's a good time for me to push it.
These kids are gonna kill me.......
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